Real hardcore professionals. But all the talent doesn't entirely seem to be with just Hideaki Anno. The sheer effort and artistry being done by the studio is almost outrageous. It doesn't almost feel even. Why shouldn't the production team share more in this endeavor in the public eye? They are incredible, and deserve equal credit and fame.
As you said they deserve equal respect as professional, hopefully , i can become like them . The sheer crunch and other experiences to pull that quadrilogie movie is scary
it's just hard to recognize more than one person at a time, I really wish we got more behind the scenes stuff in general because it's fascinating. Chihayafuru has a little behind the scenes on crunchyroll that I also enjoyed if you haven't seen already!
Well Anno is the director. At the end of the day, all creative decisions come down to him. It's the same way in live action. There is more than 1 creative position and one of the directors job is to make all the creative decisions into one cohesive look.
I wouldn't want him to be my boss though, he would tell me to keep working on something until it gets perfect with a straight face, no matter how many overtime hours I would get.
As silly as this sounds, working in the western cartoon industry is probably the safer bet, While they undoubtedly don’t fully understand the medium of animation (seriously, to this day Hollywood still treats it like a kid only medium), there’s one major benefit it seems: the pay, treatment and job security of western animation. The creators on Family Guy for instance, get paid 1 MILLION per episode. And Seth McFarlane went on strike when the network tried to short change him and the other creators. And then there’s the way Cartoon Network treats their animators: basically if you work on someone else’s show you’re practically guaranteed to get your own pilot, possibly even your own full show, (as long as you’re not overly problematic. But eh, seems easy enough.)
@@pebuh6706 yep, if you wanna work in the annimation industry in america you basically have the choice to be a story artist a character designer or some sort of viz dev artist. Pretty much all annimation is outsourced overseas
If Anno makes his staff work like crazy to make something perfect he’s making them better at their jobs and skills. They all are there for the end goal to make something awesome and he’s the skip of the ship. I’m sure he has high demands but gives them enough creative freedom to be happy to stick with him. I’m a self employed software engineer in corporate and one thing I know is that micro managing weirdo managers are the worst. He does seem like that if his staff praise him.
Far as I have seen, Anno is a perfectionist. And it's good and not good to work with perfectionists. Good because they know what needs to be done and they have plans to carry out the tasks; they also know who is perfect for a certain task, like storyboarding or animating. Not good because they need things to be done in a certain way, no compromise (or at least very few instances of compromises), and that usually gets on people's nerves. It's also that Anno often thinks outside the box, as Miyazaki commented that he's an alien, and Japanese people always follow certain unspoken guidelines about how to do things. All in all, I think working with Anno is an extraordinary experience. Sometimes you like it, sometimes you hate it, but it sucks you in anyway, because you are doing something you like, and you get to work on Evangelion. It's just how it is.
yeah I ran an artist collective for a few years and realised that I was diluting my own vision by having everyone share an equal seat at the table; it had become a shadow of what I had imagined
@@bidoofismyking8962 "I ran an artist collective" is not something I thought I'd see thrown out so casually yet here I stand, that must've been a whole book's worth of weird
Factos: He loses to @mvpanda, the UA-camr of Korea. Mvpanda is the only one who successfully dig everything behind Evangelion, even Anno’s team couldn’t until nowdays.
Evangelion, is ultimately triggering to me. As not only does it trigger my grief for my childhood friend, but also the social isolation of Quarantine, as well as my own adolescent trauma as well. Admittedly, I made the mistake of watching the End of Evangelion first before viewing the series, as much of the fandom said it to be a better ending than episodes 25 and 26. Big mistakes. EoE triggered me on such a monumental scale, that it gave me nightmares about the Third Impact. To make matters worse, I viewed it right after the suicide of my childhood friend, and right before the Pandemic hit the United States. As you can imagine, I became paranoid. Shinji was a coping mechanism, for everything that was going on, as everything that had happened to me was in layman's terms, a "Psychological Domino effect", all of which I was forced to cope with during Quarantine with little to no therapy whatsoever, making it all the more difficult. During that time, I felt so sorry for Shinji, that I wanted to die for him, in the delusion I could sacrifice my happiness for him, feeling my fate was inescapable. Moreover, at one point in time, I was just like Shinji, that being during high school, wherein I was a "loser" and a target for those to belittle me. I sought emotional refuge with the Evangelion fandom to cope with the events that have happened. They claimed that Evangelion was supposedly a cure for depression. I learned this during Lockdown, and of course, I was afraid of undergoing depression again, so I took their word for it; let Evangelion consume me in spite of how triggering it was to me, in the hopes I would no longer be alone, that being part of the fandom could help me feel like a part of a community in all the pandemical pandemonium. Little did I know that instead of a house of intellectuals, it would be a den of degenerates. For over two years, I have been cyberbullied by the Evangelion fandom for my depression and trauma. It's the ultimate irony. A fandom, dedicated to praising a series that portrays the cost and trauma and depression, downplayed my own. Much like Anno after he worked on the series, I received hate speech and death threats, especially when I told them how much I related to Shinji and hated Evangelion because of how much it brought me pain. To add insult to injury, they turned my cry for help, titled "Message in a Bottle", into a copypasta to spite me. To make matters worse, they even created a rumor of me being a zoophile as well as a pedophile merely based on gossip surrounding my past, even blamed me for the suicide of my childhood friend. Never since High School have I felt so humiliated. I hate myself because I hate Evangelion. I hate how I couldn't achieve the same absolution, the same self-love, the same closure, and the same resolution, and enlightenment as Shinji did in the original series, and I hate how I was made the outcast, and treated like one by the fandom in spite of my attempts to find acceptance. In spite of the cyber bullying I’ve endured for over a year from the Evangelion fandom, I keep coming back to them, to try and stand up for myself. But it always ends in more emotional damage on my end. They keep saying my trauma and depression are “all in my head” and I’m afraid. I just want to prove to them that my trauma and depression are real, and not fake like they accused me of, because if it’s real, then at least I know I can get better. I feel insecure about my own mentality. What if they’re right? What if my depression is fake and I never even knew? What if all my triggers are somehow wired in a way that they’re not even there? What if everything I had felt and experienced during Lockdown was a figment of my imagination and I really am clinically insane? Thus, I often question if I am beyond salvation, whether my fate has been sealed, as I have witnessed much horror that shattered my soul. I've been trying to contact Hideaki Anno since 2020, but heard nothing from him. I have this belief that if I seek his counsel, he might have the answers for me. Real: forum.evageeks.org/thread/21312/Message-In-A-Bottle-Reprise/ Fake: www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/wv14gx/neon_genesis_evangelion_nearly_drove_me_to_suicide/
I don't know if you will read this but you should seek the help of an actual mental health professional to help you work through your trauma and mental health issues. Hideaki Anno is not a mental health professional he is simply an artist who put his own mental health experiences into his work. Evangelion is a work of art and not a cure for depression, whoever told you that was not being truthful and I am sorry that they did that to you. The only other advice I feel I can give you without overstepping is to disconnect from the Eva community as best as you can on your end as it is clearly exacerbating your mental health issues and you do not deserve to be gaslit into thinking your problems are not real. I wish you all the best and hope you are able to get help.
Why would anyone listen to the Eva community? The community is trash full of creepy people who secretly like Eva due to fanservice and the writers barley disguise fethis. Don't use a dumb anime, whit dumb characters made by a madman who writings about his weird issues and creepy fetishist to help whit your own personal issues. Just get professional help.
The rebuilds debunked the notion of Anno as some sort of artist with something important to say. Talented guy in some particular ways with money and prestige that may outweigh what he did to earn it.
Whether or not you like the Rebuilds, it accomplished what it needed to do thanks to their success. Have Anno get the IP back from Gainax , help establish new studio Khara, and give him enough of a push to able to be hired to spearhead projects like Shin Godzilla.
You don't need rebuild to tell you that cause Eva staff been telling people for years that everything you see in Evangelion was just put there just for the fun of it. It fools like Eva fans who think there was a deep message being written. When all this time it was a madmen writing about his weird issues and his barely disguise fethis. Everyone where made fools out of and I love it..
@@INFERNO95 They said that so people would find meaning in the text themselves rather than have it be dictated to them by artistic authority. You don't have a great deal of media literacy.
The Rebuilds and Evangelgion categorically did have an artistic statement to be made and this is a ludricous and embarassing comment. Just say you personally didn't like it and move on in your life. "debunked", like that's how storytelling and art works, what a joke... Then again anyone who would say such a thing was never going to get the message the Rebuilds contained in the first place. It's clear that the third and fourth made the right people mad. Much as no one hates Star Wars like a Star Wars fan, no one hates Eva like an Evangelion fan.
@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou The new narrative introduced in the rebuilds is terrible pandering horseshit that only had an ounce of humanity in the second act of the 4th movie. It's hard to honestly engage in a narrative when it so clearly disrespects its audience.
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Imagine what the animators must have felt when they really animated the end of evangelion
The beginning must have been interesting for them
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Real hardcore professionals. But all the talent doesn't entirely seem to be with just Hideaki Anno. The sheer effort and artistry being done by the studio is almost outrageous. It doesn't almost feel even. Why shouldn't the production team share more in this endeavor in the public eye? They are incredible, and deserve equal credit and fame.
As you said they deserve equal respect as professional, hopefully , i can become like them . The sheer crunch and other experiences to pull that quadrilogie movie is scary
Japanese people are usually humble culturally.
it's just hard to recognize more than one person at a time, I really wish we got more behind the scenes stuff in general because it's fascinating. Chihayafuru has a little behind the scenes on crunchyroll that I also enjoyed if you haven't seen already!
Well Anno is the director. At the end of the day, all creative decisions come down to him. It's the same way in live action. There is more than 1 creative position and one of the directors job is to make all the creative decisions into one cohesive look.
The "We can finally relax." Is so bitter sweet.
Anno seems like a chill guy. Not sure if I'd work in the anime business though.
I wouldn't want him to be my boss though, he would tell me to keep working on something until it gets perfect with a straight face, no matter how many overtime hours I would get.
As silly as this sounds, working in the western cartoon industry is probably the safer bet,
While they undoubtedly don’t fully understand the medium of animation (seriously, to this day Hollywood still treats it like a kid only medium), there’s one major benefit it seems: the pay, treatment and job security of western animation. The creators on Family Guy for instance, get paid 1 MILLION per episode. And Seth McFarlane went on strike when the network tried to short change him and the other creators. And then there’s the way Cartoon Network treats their animators: basically if you work on someone else’s show you’re practically guaranteed to get your own pilot, possibly even your own full show, (as long as you’re not overly problematic. But eh, seems easy enough.)
All the animation is outsourced the teams are much smaller
@@pebuh6706 yep, if you wanna work in the annimation industry in america you basically have the choice to be a story artist a character designer or some sort of viz dev artist. Pretty much all annimation is outsourced overseas
“Let me hug you”🥺🥺🥺🥺
If Anno makes his staff work like crazy to make something perfect he’s making them better at their jobs and skills. They all are there for the end goal to make something awesome and he’s the skip of the ship.
I’m sure he has high demands but gives them enough creative freedom to be happy to stick with him.
I’m a self employed software engineer in corporate and one thing I know is that micro managing weirdo managers are the worst. He does seem like that if his staff praise him.
Far as I have seen, Anno is a perfectionist. And it's good and not good to work with perfectionists. Good because they know what needs to be done and they have plans to carry out the tasks; they also know who is perfect for a certain task, like storyboarding or animating. Not good because they need things to be done in a certain way, no compromise (or at least very few instances of compromises), and that usually gets on people's nerves. It's also that Anno often thinks outside the box, as Miyazaki commented that he's an alien, and Japanese people always follow certain unspoken guidelines about how to do things.
All in all, I think working with Anno is an extraordinary experience. Sometimes you like it, sometimes you hate it, but it sucks you in anyway, because you are doing something you like, and you get to work on Evangelion. It's just how it is.
yeah I ran an artist collective for a few years and realised that I was diluting my own vision by having everyone share an equal seat at the table; it had become a shadow of what I had imagined
@@bidoofismyking8962 No one is born equal. Cogs in a machine come in all shapes and sizes.
@@bidoofismyking8962 "I ran an artist collective" is not something I thought I'd see thrown out so casually yet here I stand, that must've been a whole book's worth of weird
*Stanley Kubrick joins the chat*
@@paleoph6168 Yeah, him too.
2:20 idk how many people know this but anno got the name shinji ikari after two of his friends including shinui higuchi the storyboard artist of Eva
Let’s not forget that Anno is a protege of Miyazaki
I want to give Anno a hug.
He doesn't like western people.
Just hope you're lucky he's had a shower that day.
@@Desmaad honestly I wouldn't care too much. Creative geniuses are always a little eccentric.
1:30 *Visible confusion...*
Hideaki Anno was director created Anime Evangelion and making ending Series!
Anime Legends.
these guys are true soldiers of the arts, thats insane dedication under that pressure : D
Retro Crush I know you're going to the US Theatrical premiere! I'm going for sure. Have a great time!
Pov: the animators that worked on the End of Evangelion.
This isn't a POV thing tho
you didnt get it 💀
holy fuck anno does not hold back god damn
but on the flip side it's real and unadulterated love for anime even if it's tough love
excuse me. but in your website. Do you have Magical Princess Minky Momo between episode 1 to 63?
Factos: He loses to @mvpanda, the UA-camr of Korea.
Mvpanda is the only one who successfully dig everything behind Evangelion, even Anno’s team couldn’t until nowdays.
that blurring is terrible
Evangelion, is ultimately triggering to me. As not only does it trigger my grief for my childhood friend, but also the social isolation of Quarantine, as well as my own adolescent trauma as well. Admittedly, I made the mistake of watching the End of Evangelion first before viewing the series, as much of the fandom said it to be a better ending than episodes 25 and 26. Big mistakes. EoE triggered me on such a monumental scale, that it gave me nightmares about the Third Impact. To make matters worse, I viewed it right after the suicide of my childhood friend, and right before the Pandemic hit the United States. As you can imagine, I became paranoid.
Shinji was a coping mechanism, for everything that was going on, as everything that had happened to me was in layman's terms, a "Psychological Domino effect", all of which I was forced to cope with during Quarantine with little to no therapy whatsoever, making it all the more difficult. During that time, I felt so sorry for Shinji, that I wanted to die for him, in the delusion I could sacrifice my happiness for him, feeling my fate was inescapable. Moreover, at one point in time, I was just like Shinji, that being during high school, wherein I was a "loser" and a target for those to belittle me.
I sought emotional refuge with the Evangelion fandom to cope with the events that have happened. They claimed that Evangelion was supposedly a cure for depression. I learned this during Lockdown, and of course, I was afraid of undergoing depression again, so I took their word for it; let Evangelion consume me in spite of how triggering it was to me, in the hopes I would no longer be alone, that being part of the fandom could help me feel like a part of a community in all the pandemical pandemonium. Little did I know that instead of a house of intellectuals, it would be a den of degenerates.
For over two years, I have been cyberbullied by the Evangelion fandom for my depression and trauma. It's the ultimate irony. A fandom, dedicated to praising a series that portrays the cost and trauma and depression, downplayed my own. Much like Anno after he worked on the series, I received hate speech and death threats, especially when I told them how much I related to Shinji and hated Evangelion because of how much it brought me pain. To add insult to injury, they turned my cry for help, titled "Message in a Bottle", into a copypasta to spite me. To make matters worse, they even created a rumor of me being a zoophile as well as a pedophile merely based on gossip surrounding my past, even blamed me for the suicide of my childhood friend. Never since High School have I felt so humiliated.
I hate myself because I hate Evangelion. I hate how I couldn't achieve the same absolution, the same self-love, the same closure, and the same resolution, and enlightenment as Shinji did in the original series, and I hate how I was made the outcast, and treated like one by the fandom in spite of my attempts to find acceptance.
In spite of the cyber bullying I’ve endured for over a year from the Evangelion fandom, I keep coming back to them, to try and stand up for myself. But it always ends in more emotional damage on my end. They keep saying my trauma and depression are “all in my head” and I’m afraid.
I just want to prove to them that my trauma and depression are real, and not fake like they accused me of, because if it’s real, then at least I know I can get better. I feel insecure about my own mentality. What if they’re right? What if my depression is fake and I never even knew? What if all my triggers are somehow wired in a way that they’re not even there? What if everything I had felt and experienced during Lockdown was a figment of my imagination and I really am clinically insane?
Thus, I often question if I am beyond salvation, whether my fate has been sealed, as I have witnessed much horror that shattered my soul.
I've been trying to contact Hideaki Anno since 2020, but heard nothing from him. I have this belief that if I seek his counsel, he might have the answers for me.
Real: forum.evageeks.org/thread/21312/Message-In-A-Bottle-Reprise/
Fake: www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/wv14gx/neon_genesis_evangelion_nearly_drove_me_to_suicide/
I don't know if you will read this but you should seek the help of an actual mental health professional to help you work through your trauma and mental health issues. Hideaki Anno is not a mental health professional he is simply an artist who put his own mental health experiences into his work. Evangelion is a work of art and not a cure for depression, whoever told you that was not being truthful and I am sorry that they did that to you. The only other advice I feel I can give you without overstepping is to disconnect from the Eva community as best as you can on your end as it is clearly exacerbating your mental health issues and you do not deserve to be gaslit into thinking your problems are not real. I wish you all the best and hope you are able to get help.
Dude the only reason you’ve been “bullied” by the fandom is cause you keep posting the same copypasta on every single eva video
this is psychosis
@@GreenDbz I was about to say, I feel like I've seen this before
Why would anyone listen to the Eva community? The community is trash full of creepy people who secretly like Eva due to fanservice and the writers barley disguise fethis. Don't use a dumb anime, whit dumb characters made by a madman who writings about his weird issues and creepy fetishist to help whit your own personal issues. Just get professional help.
The rebuilds debunked the notion of Anno as some sort of artist with something important to say. Talented guy in some particular ways with money and prestige that may outweigh what he did to earn it.
Whether or not you like the Rebuilds, it accomplished what it needed to do thanks to their success. Have Anno get the IP back from Gainax , help establish new studio Khara, and give him enough of a push to able to be hired to spearhead projects like Shin Godzilla.
You don't need rebuild to tell you that cause Eva staff been telling people for years that everything you see in Evangelion was just put there just for the fun of it. It fools like Eva fans who think there was a deep message being written. When all this time it was a madmen writing about his weird issues and his barely disguise fethis. Everyone where made fools out of and I love it..
@@INFERNO95 They said that so people would find meaning in the text themselves rather than have it be dictated to them by artistic authority. You don't have a great deal of media literacy.
The Rebuilds and Evangelgion categorically did have an artistic statement to be made and this is a ludricous and embarassing comment. Just say you personally didn't like it and move on in your life. "debunked", like that's how storytelling and art works, what a joke...
Then again anyone who would say such a thing was never going to get the message the Rebuilds contained in the first place. It's clear that the third and fourth made the right people mad. Much as no one hates Star Wars like a Star Wars fan, no one hates Eva like an Evangelion fan.
@@CharlotteSWeb-oh7ou The new narrative introduced in the rebuilds is terrible pandering horseshit that only had an ounce of humanity in the second act of the 4th movie. It's hard to honestly engage in a narrative when it so clearly disrespects its audience.
and yet rebuild... is trash.
While the the original is full of nothing but the writers barley disguise fethis.
Bite my crank.
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just throw anno in the trash and move on : )