Amelia Tells Owen He Has to Forgive Teddy - Grey's Anatomy
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- Amelia (Caterina Scorsone) tells Owen (Kevin McKidd) that he needs to find a way to forgive Teddy (Kim Raver). In her mind, Teddy tries to hold on to an alternate past when she didn't let Allison go to work where she'd be killed on September 11, 2001. Watch 'Grey's Anatomy' on ABC and Hulu, streaming and on demand.
Amelia was every fan from the grey's fandom that always wanted to tell Owen off for his asshole tendencies and woe is me additude.
Yeah but she didn’t do it because she believes he’s an asshole. It’s because he’s hurt and confused and they’re like best friends now and that’s what you do to make them better. She told him what he needed to hear.
😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly
@@Lopezmusical oh I know but we still wanted him to hear that for years. Its like he forgot how he treated and cheated [emotionally] on all his past grey's women before he got help and went to therapy. I remember him realizing how he lied and couldn't be honest about his feelings and that was why he was running from relationship to relationship. It was season 14-15 I think when he was dealing with his sister and Amelia and that girl the took in.
I love Owen but honestly, it's fun they brought a scene/moment from early season back in "a fight". It brings more realistic vibe to it.
@@Lopezmusical sometimes you need to be the friend who tells what they need to hear.
when she mentioned him strangling Christina I JUMPED UP
same I jumped up yelling “GET👏🏾HIM👏🏾”
@@taylorjohnson1695 yes get him for being asleep and not knowing what he was doing
@@rebeckahcamden4461 yes🙄
@@rebeckahcamden4461 you missed the whole point of why she said it and that’s sad the message went right over your head
I did to i was like and i oop
i love the twist. Teddy once told Ameila off because she wasnt being an advocate for owen sister etc. And now shes being an advocate for Teddy.
Lol stupid women stuck together
I love the "I'll go check on her" line when the baby starts crying and she means Teddy, not Allison.
*DO YOU WALK AROUND TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT HOW YOU STRANGLED CRISTINA??* LETS TALK ABOUT THATTTTTTT!!!! Cmonnnn miss Amelia read him downnnnnnn
I spit out my chips once I heard that. I was like daaaammmmnnnn Owen you just got owned man.
@@Lopezmusical SAME 😂😂😂😂 WAS NOT EXPECTING THAT
I ooped at that🤣🤣speak Amelia!!!!!
I was like: OH DAMN! She went there, and she needed to!!!
THAT PARTT!!
“Do you walk around talking about how you strangled Cristina?” Wow that was a line!!!
Not a line
The Line😂😂😂😂
That was all it took
@@laurafabianmarrero8614 🤣🤣🤣 I wasn’t expecting her to go that hard on him but I had to remember this Amelia Shepherd we’re talking about
@Savannah Baldonado Amelia was wrong for that. Owen was suffering from PTSD when he hurt Cristina. PTSD is real and should not have been thrown in his face like that.
@@raephaelemasirnille5794 Exactly, which is what Owen has been doing to Teddy, and he needed to be shown that because he wasn't seeing it for himself. That was the intention of the line, not to hurt Owen but to show him he's been hurting someone else.
@@rlouisw Is cheating a symptom of PTSD? I am not aware that it is
What I love about this episode is that Kevin (the guy who plays Owen) directed it. So clearly he's wanted someone to properly call Owen out on his bulshit for a while
Woah that's really cool
Maybe I’m wrong (sorry if I am) but wouldn’t that be the writer/s that decided to call Owen out not Kevin? Kevin would’ve decided how the line was delivered I presume but not Owen actually getting called out in the first place😊
@@beth9207 huh...yeah why didn't I think of that😂 I mean idk I think directors sometimes have more of a choice about writing? Idk but also you're completely right, it's the writers not Kevin himself. Although I did like the idea that he was still willing to direct despite his character's apperance in the ep. So no, I mispoke 😂 which is odd considering I did an entire writing degree that included screenwriting 😂 I just liked that Owen got told off and I was excited😂
Hé directed it but he didn’t wrote the script those are too different things. It was not up to him to call Owen out
Well, he didn't write it. The writers are the ones who wants someone to slap him with the truth. Let's give credit where credit is due.
Glad this conversation happened but am I the only one that remembers that SHE IS ALSO A WIDOW, THAT SHE WAS MARRIED TO HENRY AND LOST HIM JUST WHEN SHE STARTED TO FEEL HAPPY?!?! It happened in the same hospital right?!?! So WHY BRING BACK OLD CHARACTER IF YOU REWRITE THEIR STORY
HENRYYY😭😭 forever a Tenry shipper & miss him! i wish they referenced him more, especially in this ep! i thought he was just as significant in her life story as the others and i’m sad he only got a brief mention..like not even a achieved footage flashback 😔
@@CharlotteJ they completely forget about him in this show
They really did just drop his storyline like a hot potato! 🤣
They did mention Henry though
@@shadowpsykie Yeah... but diminish his role in her life.
This might just be my favorite Amelia scene
I have watched it like 10 times!@ Amelia is awesome here!
Amelia is a bad ass and never shys away from telling you what you need to hear.
Exactly
I LOVE AMELIA WHEN SHE GIVES REALITY CHECKS OWEN HAS BEEN A DUMPSTER FIRE CHARACTER THE WHOLE SERIES AND NEEDS KNOCKED OFF HIS HIGH HORSE SEVERALS FEET ALWAYS HATED HIM PUT CHRISTINA AND AMELIA THROUGH HELL FOR YEARS AND TEDDY HE AN EMOTIONAL ABUSER OF WOMEN AND TALKS TO THEM AND EVERYONE LIKE HE IS BETTER THAN THEM AND I HATE PEOPLE AND CHARACTERS LIKE THAT TEAM CHRISTINA TEAM AMELIA TEAM TEDDY😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
amelia gives the best advice. people may think she’s a crackhead but she’s genuinely a good person
edit: thank u for 3k+ likes
I was so proud of Amelia for confronting him and calling him out on his behaviour! She would know.. he treated her pretty badly at times way back when, even leading her to relapse.
True. My friend in RL smokes abit of crack and they are the most realistic friend I have out of all friends I have. Not all drugs ruin a person.
@@Natasha-ys4qr how do you smoke a little bit crack really that's like saying I smoke one cigarette a day knowing I smoke 10
My friend does not me.
@@Natasha-ys4qr no I wasn't saying you do but how does anyone with a habit just does it a little bit
About time somebody told him the truth!!!
Yas 👏👏
It’s always Amelia who shows Owen the light
THAT HE'S A ASSHOLE, WEAK CHARACTER.
What truth she’s a liar and a cheater
@@cityboydanny1758 a women forgives a man who cheats and lies all the time, why can’t a man forgive also.
Let's recognize the much-needed-past overdue realization Owen needed to come to. Thanks, Amelia!!!!!
FINALLY!!! Someone tells Owen off. I get that Teddy screwed up, but Owen always fails to recognize his own failings.
1. He fell in love with Teddy WHILE being engaged to Beth
2. He never told Beth when he was discharged from the Army. He allowed her to suffer, and worry over him, never telling her that he fell out of love with her and in love with Teddy...then Cristina. 😞
3. The biggest mistake of all; he cheated on Christina.
4. He divorced Amelia after her tumor, strung her along making her fall in love with him all over again, and then runs to Teddy, leaves Teddy, then plays house with Amelia for a year.
5. Keeps telling Amelia he wants her when it's clear he's still in love with Teddy, after she comes back pregnant with his baby.
Amelia was always cast as the screw-up and black sheep of the cast but she always owned up to her mistakes and she has never backed down from her responsibilities.
Owen has always cast himself as the Martyr and good guy but he's screwed up as much as Teddy and Koracick have.
Amelia really stepped up as a friend for Teddy, AND to Owen telling him like it is. He may have been bothered by the fact that she lied, but there's also a part of him that resents the fact that Teddy's heart was never completely his. Amelia really shined tonight.
YES THIS! Honestly, since Link entered Amelia's life, I've begun realizing how toxic Owen's behaviour could be and how toxic he could turn relationships, for exactly the reasons you listed - his inability to recognize his own failings and own up to them, instead projecting his blame onto others... it has cost him a lot. I hope this is his realization moment and he works to better himself.
Exactly..
Amelia is honestly the best character ever.. and so underrated
What also annoys me is that Owen never acknowledged how badly he hurt Amelia after having a family with her he just left her as soon as teddy showed up in his life!! and Amelia at that point was giving him everything he ever wanted
Owen always justifies every bad thing he did ... it's annoying.. finally Amelia told him off 🙌
Amelia gave Owen exactly what he deserved in this scene!! I loved his character in the beginning, but hell, he is far from faultless in all this, and what he did to Christina????? EXACTLY!!!
Don’t forget the plane accident!! And his behavior about it!
Thank you
I know it's Teddy episode but Amelia has shined today
Amelia can speak truth like no one else can. And I love her for that! Loved this scene!
I love Cristina’s name echoes throughout the show, she has really made an impact
Amelia is most def one if not my favorite. Seeing how much she’s grown from Private Practice to this point makes my heart so happy. This is by far one of favorite Grey’s Anatomy scene.
She has grown and this was a good scene. Not sure I understand how did Allison die?
Yeeesssssss!!!!
@@mwoods6533 Allison died on the 9/11 tragedy.
Same!!
@@originalsomecloud3349 thank you, understood why Teddy has PTSD
this scene was INCREDIBLE.
No really! It was
YESSSSSSSS
Incredibly stupid
@@thatguybutitsactuallyagirl5384 thats your opinion, i have mine.
PERIODT
Yo whoever wrote that 'Cristina line' NEEDS AN EMMY!
This scene is the moment for every advocate of someone suffering from trauma. Yes Queen yes!
I respectfully disagree. As someone who also has experience with trauma I think it’s pretty sickening (but very Grey’s) that they’re *exploiting* trauma as a way to excuse Teddy’s behavior over the last season and forcing Owen into being the bad guy of this story if he doesn’t forgive her. Trauma *explains* behavior. It does not *excuse* it.
@@Book_Dragon2562 I'm with you. Trauma does not make us (the victims) automatic liars or narcissists. We don't all respond the same, and no one is entitled to forgiveness just because they keep making selfish decisions 🤷🏾♀️ If someone forgives us, wonderful, but if they don't, then ok. We'll be more informed about not being a douchebag for the next person.
There's this assumption out here that everyone gets second chances. I don't know when people started telling their kids that. But it is not a reality for a lot of us.
Someone people in our society are forced to get it right the first time, with or without trauma.
@@Book_Dragon2562 EXACTLY, I hate Owen as much as everyone but the way they portray Teddy as just a poor victim when she caused two people a lot of pain is disgusting. Grey’s has always done that, they downplay people’s shitty behavior and use their trauma as an excuse.
@@Book_Dragon2562 Trauma isn't just trauma, each trauma is different and each response to that trauma is different, just because you've experienced trauma doesn't mean you've experienced this trauma, and even if you have it doesn't mean you experienced it in the same way or reacted to it the same way. No one is excusing Teddy's behavior, you misinterpret the show and if you think that. The purpose of these past several episodes with Teddy is that knowing your past is how you move on from it, and Teddy would never face her own truth which just kept ruining her life more and more every time she tried to be happy. Several character on this show have had a similar revelation, this is actually not a new story idea for Grey's it's just a new twist on it. And no one is exploiting trauma, they are acknowledging that people have trauma and that keeping it inside does this to a person. If you were able to deal with trauma and not hurt anyone in the process, then good for you, not bad for everyone else who wasn't able to.
@@rlouisw You’re absolutely right when you say that each person experiences trauma differently. You’re also right when you say this isn’t the first time they’ve used this storyline. They repeatedly have characters do terrible things and then reveal some deep tragic trauma to redeem said character. I didn’t misunderstand or misinterpret this pattern of irresponsible writing on the show’s part. Nor am I saying that I was somehow a perfect victim who never hurt anyone with my trauma. Of course I did. We all did. The difference is I recognize that me hurting doesn’t excuse causing others pain. Whether I intended it or not, whether I was aware or not, that damage is real and that person has to live with it. They have every right to deny me forgiveness, closure, or anything else. I have no right to ask them for anything, and even less so to expect or demand it.
"I did not do it casually"
Yes! Amelia brought this up not to hurt him but to show him that we can do horrible stuff when we're suffering from severe trauma.
Trauma isn’t an excuse to cheat repeatedly
@@Mysterygamergirl23 no one said that. Nice straw man tho.
@@TheMystique29so what is the point of this ?
@@TheMystique29like you say it’s not an excuse while simultaneously explaining it using said “excuse”
@@ryanegrrgrg5174 The point is that certain circumstances require empathy instead of punishment.
Showing Owen that he was capable of hurting other's when he suffered from an immense amount of distress was necessary because he behaved like an ass with holier than thou attitude in this situation. Owen got better in part because Christina met him with empathy and forgiveness instead of rejecting him.
Trauma responses are complicated and to meet those with a punitive attitude is not constructive.
She gave him the BEST read! Okay? She read Owen for all the filth! “Do you walk around telling everyone how you strangled Cristina?”
I was like like girl,; read him again!
The problem with Owen though is that he convinces himself and others that he already forgave them when in fact he didn't. Remember how he was "accepting" about Cristina's decision to terminate the pregnancy after throwing a fit in season 8? Then he always throws that in during their later fights? He never forgets nor totally forgives.
Oh that is a very good point. Tsk tsk Owen.
He had no choice but to "agree" with Christina's decision. They made him out to be this asshole who was forcing a pregnancy onto Christina and convinced him it would be "selfish" that HE was being selfish by wanting to keep his kid. Owen was NEVER okay with Christina getting that abortion and any idiot watching the show should know that. It was all "oh you know Christina never wanted kids so it would be selfish to make her have this kid, she doesn't want to be a mom!" Maybe I was the only one like are you serious? If that was the case everybody and their mom knew Owen WANTED children and always wanted children so how selfish is it to tell him "hey I know I'm pregnant with your kid but I don't want to be a mom and it's my body and my decision so you have no choice but to accept the fact that I'm having an abortion to get rid of your kid and you don't get to be upset about that because again, my body my choice". Smh...people kill me acting like he was wrong for being upset. Or acting like he really had a choice in her decision. They made him out to be an asshole either way but in that whole situation I'm on Owen's side. He had no choices all of them were taken away from him. So he had to adapt to the situation and just accept it.
@@alysianna05 she told him multiple times she didnt kids and he still pursued her because he thought she would change his mind and she never did. She even told him maybe they weren’t meant to be because of that and he ignored her. So no, none of this is on cristina.
@@2302blackd Actually yes it is. SHE could have walked away as well or did he force her to be in a relationship? On that issue BOTH of them were at fault. However the person who's comment I responded to was talking about Owen being wrong for being upset about the abortion. Which is what I responded to in my comment THAT whole situation was NOT on Owen. He even half panicked when she told him and was like I thought you were on birth control to avoid this whole issue. So YES it was on Christina just as much as Owen! She was NOT innocent. Not even a little. She couldn't stay away from him either. I said Owen was NOT at fault OR in the wrong for being upset about losing his kid! Which he was NOT! Everybody acts like he should have just accepted that (which he had no choice but to find a way to accept it) and had no reason to be angry. Last time I checked anger is a part of the grieving process so no he wasn't wrong for being angry and having feelings. Next time if you're gonna respond let's stay on topic. The abortion was the topic NOT the entire relationship which was doomed from the beginning. So have a nice day!
@@2302blackd Also he didn't find out she didn't want kids until they were already together and in love. As a matter of fact him, cristina and Teddy were I a surgery together when he found out she didn't want kids and she found out he did. That whole conversation about them not being together because he wanted kids was when Meredith went into labor which was after they had divorced and gotten back together.
Owen really needed to hear this. It's ok he has PTSD but he never understands anyone near him. All he care about is his darkness.
Yeah I like his character but he is indeed very self centered
So what y’all saying is ptsd made teddy cheat get the fuck outta here
@@cityboydanny1758 Thank you! I was not aware cheating was s symptom of PTSD
@@cityboydanny1758 yup that's bullshit. I've always seen people saying Owen's bad actions can't be excused by PTSD. But suddenly with Teddy PTSD can excuse everything and so she deserves forgiveness...
@@mysterysunfurled I don’t see the original comment saying she is excused for cheating because of ptsd this scene shows that Owen is mad cause she’s been in love with someone who is dead for a long time. How can she be wrong for that? The person is dead nothing they can do and honestly after all the times he’s put her love for him on the back burner he has no right to judge her
“Sometimes traumatized people lie. They lie to you. They lie to themselves. That does not mean everything is a lie. When you were hurting, your heart other people.”
This helped me to understand better and forgive and heal myself from bad experiences.
So if I’m traumatized and kill people im not a murderer then not everything is a murder by that logic 😂😂😂
@@JohnPork-420 not everyone that kills people is a murderer as it’s by definition killing deliberately and without justification.
I miss April and Owen their relationship was severely underrated it was best friend and brother and sister type of relationship and they relationship made me like Owen more
Owen, the quintessential ‘good guy’, gaslighting every woman he’s ever been involved with. Literally strangled Christina, ignored that Christina or Amelia are career women who never wanted kids and now Teddy...
Amelia wanted kids but was afraid due to the trauma of losing her first child. Owen never understood the pain and trauma she went through either.
@@xliljuliet he's definitely the type of guy that if you were to tell him your grandma had died he would respond with “well my dog died”
He broke up with Beth in an email and what was that other doctor he was seeing but cheated on her with Christina she wanted him and a family he has good guy tendencies but he's actually really toxic when it comes to relationships
@@xliljuliet That's because she never told him. Initially she never told anyone about her first kid outside of those who were there when it happened. She told Alex before she told Owen. She never even told her own brother. How was he supposed to understand a trauma he was never even made aware of?
“Do you walk around telling people about how you strangled Christina? Her trauma response is different than yours.” YES GIRL!!!! She called him out. And rightfully so. I was so sick of all of Owen’s crap. He deserved a reality check.
this is why i love amelia. she was spot on.
Amelia is my favorite female character in this show since multiple seasons, she's nice sweet, and brave I love how she stands for Owen every time and say the hard stuff
I fell in love with Amelia in Private Practice and I’m so glad they gave Caterina the chance to keep portraying the character calling her on Grey’s after the show ended.
Amelia’s one of the most complex, and most amazing characters on television
Amelia might just be the best character in the entirety of the Grey's universe. Even better than Christina, Bailey, and Meredith combined sometimes.
@@onetallpheeesh I totally agree. She’s such a complex and interesting character. She’s probably the one with the biggest character arch, cause she’s been through so much and has changed so much and so many times in the years
Same! I loved her since day one
Amelia is an incredible character, Caterina Scorsone does a phenomenal job
damn as she should. she's not holding any punches
“Do you walk around telling people about how you strangled Christina” and I oop-
Amelia is my favorite character. She sees the world in such a real way and she isn’t afraid to drop truths on people when they need to hear them the most.
With Owen love always go back to how much he feels and felt for Cristina
Amelia’s character arc, from Private Practice to Greys Anatomy, is crazy. She’s become a lot like Richard now if you notice the way she speaks to people now.
I like that she’s becoming like Richard. They both were in AA, they both had brain tumors, they both are great friends to others too! I absolutely love their relationship to each other, and I’m liking Amelia more and more as a character.
Go Amelia! I seriously think she’s the only one besides Megan that can speak sense into Owen.
Which is funny considering Megan was hell bent that Amelia wasn’t for Owen at all.
I have to say, I love how Amelia and Owen's relationship has grown. She is the only person in the world that could say this to him and because of her history with trauma and addiction she knew how to do it. Also, I love her relationship with Teddy! I just Amelia!
This is the Amelia we love , The woman that talks from pain with passion.
I think what I love about this is that it is his ex-wife, yelling at him to forgive his current wife, by using a trauma response he had with his other ex-wife as an explanation for her reasoning.
Owen is such a hypocrite. He cheated on Cristina. He has loved other women besides Teddy for decades. Owen and his double standards
@sun cream owen was a constant cheater
No one has been through as much crap as Amelia I’m glad she is the one giving advice now.
that’s a lie
@@brookewilliams5306 that is not a lie
Her father was kill in front of her and derek
She turn to drugs because of it
The man she love die of an overdose
And her baby was born without a brain.
And die
She have to give birth to a still born
So yeap
@@laurafabianmarrero8614 Jo and Mer are the only 2 I can think of that may have been through worse
Meredith has lost litterly everyone she loves
@@laurafabianmarrero8614 Amelia has been through a lot but look at Meredith for example:
Her mother tried to kill herself infront of her when she was young (I forgot the age)
Her father left her
Her mother got Alzheimers and died
She survived a drowning
She survived a gunman
Her sister died
She watched Derek get shot
Her friend died
Her husband died whilst she was pregnant with his child
A miscarriage
A plane crash
Getting attacked by a patient
Her friend getting cancer (even though she still lived)
Her stepmother dying
Her best friend moving away
Getting corona - idk if she survives not yet but ye
Amelia has also been through a lot but I think Meredith has been through more
Can we just give a standing ovation to Amelia right now?! Some people may say this wasn't her place or business but I don't care. Owen needed to hear this. Teddy screwed up, but he has as well.
But how did Owen screw up with Teddy? What did he do wrong?
@@raephaelemasirnille5794 you haven't watched the show if you can't tell
Lets take a moment to appreciate how Amelia grew as a character and forgave Owen for his toxic behaviour towards her. It is really noticeable how her and Link are happy and I am so glad to see that. Them just having a healthy realtionship
The "how her and Link are happy" part didn't age well
While not acknowledging her own toxic behaviour. Remember when she withheld the paternity of her son from both Link and Owen, while simultaneously demanding unconditional love from link regardless of the results? Sorry honey, that's not how it works.
@@rebekahsegun8319 Honestly, I no longer like her character after what she did to Link later on
"Forgive others, not because they deserve forgiveness, but because you deserve peace."
I just hate that Owen paints himself as the good guy. So freakin' self righteous! The actor is amazing but damn his character is annoying AF. Good on Amelia for telling him off!
She used his ptsd and teddy cheating as a comparison for him to forgive her. After Owen cheated and told Christina she was mad and then went to do the same damn thing. Amelia told Owen go cheat butt no that was the tumor but nobody knew that. Owen is always the bad guy. But since Allison died even though she was cheating on her gf with Teddy. Aww forgive Teddy she’s the victim and Owen should forgive her bc someone she loved died. In every situation they try to make him look like a dick. We have given ourselves this false sense of reality that everyone deserves second chances and some are just horrible people. Everyone on this damn show has basically cheated or shamed a patient or their gf for not wanting kids. Y’all paint him as the bad guy bc now everything is suppose to be rainbows and cookies. Grow up he doesn’t have to forgive her nor does he have to be with her
@@javenlovelol2177 teddy really is the victim though. when Owen cheats on Christina no one in the hospital was giving him the side eye or look at him with disappointment, same as with Amelia. when Owen and Amelia was playing house then teddy shows up pregnant, no one doesn’t even bat an eye. but when teddy cheats on Owen the whole hospital has something to say and she is bashed for doing this horrible thing to Owen and everyone hates her. Owen should forgive her because he should understand and not bash her like everyone else. at least Owen had someone to talk to. teddy felt alone and on top that the whole coronavirus and meridith on the vent and deluca dying, she just felt alone in all this.
@@miradew A one night stand you regret is different from a whole affair with a man you claim to still love today. No one is by her because they all have their own problems at the moment. Also he may have cheated in his last relationships but he didn’t in this one and that’s the whole picture everyone seems to forget. They have KIDS together, when she did what she did she wasn’t just cheating on him but their children. He doesn’t have to forgive her bc he never did anything wrong to her. She finally got him after years of trying to get him out of his marriages and being with her just to cheat is weird. Also this whole ptsd storyline was played out bogus bc they acted as if Allison was the only big part in her life that was part of her breakdown. It didn’t make sense, no one is saying Owen is a good guy and haven’t cheated. I’m saying no one in their right mind would figure her bc Ik I wouldn’t
@@javenlovelol2177 Owen had an emotional affair with teddy with all his marriages and led teddy on when he was still with Amelia. i’m just saying its not completely teddy’s fault that she feels this way. the only reason teddy has their child is because Amelia told him to go to her while she had a brain tumor but all of that backfired and teddy kicked him out not knowing she was pregnant.
@@miradew he didn’t have no damn emotional affair with Teddy he didn’t want her until he saw how good she was for him but he was still with Amelia. It was wrong of him to tell her that, but it was better bc she already knew what she was getting herself into. She didn’t even tell him she was pregnant for months. He shouldn’t forgive her simple as that
Owen has been needing that check for years !!!!!! Like tell him Amelia !!!!!!
Buuuuuuuuuut, teddy’s cheating tendencies started before her trauma , and she continued throughout her entire time in Grey’s. Allison and Tom, she juggled Henry and David, wanted owen while he was with Beth, Christina and Amelia .
Yes Amelia yes!!!!! Finally someone tell owen off ,, i just dont really understand people hating teddy and liking owen just because of what she did 🤯🤯
Because this world is ok when the girl cheats but when the guy does it he’s a ass
@@brycerector1801 firstly, no cheating is ok. Secondly, if most people hate Teddy and not Owen then your point is negated. Thirdly, how is your statement true when most people expect women to forgive men for cheating (especially the dude who cheated). But when the reverse happens most guys won't take a woman back who cheats?
@@brycerector1801 bruh reading comprehension got you down, people hate Teddy now that's what OP is saying 🤦🤦don't bring your personal issues here
I've always hated Teddy and liked Owen. Her cheating just made me dislike her even more.
@@mysterysunfurled hypocrite
“Do you walk around telling everyone talking about how you strangled Cristina?” Yes Amelia you betta read him, LIKE A TEXTBOOK 💅🏿
I love Owen despite his mistakes but damn I cheered Amelia in this scene. He needed that reminder that we all have a past and some of us have something horrible in that can come back years later and bring back all that pain. Owen gets on his high horse sometimes. Amelia knocked him clean off it.
I love Amelia like literally so much she deserves everything
I love how Amelia just threw that in his face 😂
reasons why i love amelia...
Yes! It's about time someone called him out. The fact that it's Amelia bluntly telling Owen the truth is all the more gratifying.
Honestly, watching Amelia reading people is such a joy! Especially when she definitely has the high ground and insight that most people in the show don't have.
After the shit Teddy put Amelia through it’s so relieving to see her stand up for her because she knows what it’s like to hurt
So we’re gonna excuse teddy behaviour and cheating cause somebody she loves died wow ok
@@cityboydanny1758 no one is excusing that but Owen has done the exact same thing so he has no right to be mad
@@haniah7820 Owen cheated on Cristina once when he was drunk with a stranger and told her the truth to her face the next day and was remorseful teddy had a multiple time affair with her ex boyfriend who she knows Owen hates and when confronted lied to his face also she did it on there wedding night so tell me how the fuck are those the same thing
@@cityboydanny1758 being drunk is not an excuse. He knew what we was doing. He shouldn’t have stayed that long with her anyways. He had the intention of cheating on Cristina because he told the lady that he shouldn’t do that with her. He knew it was wrong and he still did it stop making excuses for him
@@haniah7820 I’m not making excuses for Owen what he did to Cristina was wrong but I see a bunch of y’all tryna sit here and act like teddy is some victim.
I was so happy Amelia checked him because literally all he’s done is abused and use teddy the entire time. And the one time she messes up he can’t forgive her. Owen is literal trash.
He emotionally abused them all tbh
Seriously????? The one time she messed up he can't forgive her. I can't believe you seriously said that. Teddy didn't forget his birthday or burn dinner she not only cheated but cheated on the morning of her wedding. A relationship should never be tit for tat. A person can't do a bad thing then say oh, but remember when you hurt me. And how forgiving and understanding would you be if your fiance cheated on you the morning of your wedding?
@@raephaelemasirnille5794 seriously what is it with ppl downplaying Teddy's cheating
@@mysterysunfurled I know, right!!! I'm not understanding people making so many excuses for her behavior, it's amazing
Owen's definitely no saint and he needed to be called out in a way, but lol abusive my ass! Are we thinking of the same Owen here?
Yes, Owen is toxic & needs to get over his anger issues, & yes, traumatized people shouldn't be demonized for the harm they inadvertently inflict on others. That being said, the people who are hurt by traumatized people have no obligation to participate in their abuser's recovery. Owen wouldn't be wrong to prioritize his own mental & emotional wellbeing by maintaining his distance from Teddy. Owen taking care of himself wouldn't mean that he hates her or wants anything less than the best for her. Forgiveness does not necessarily mean that you will recommit to a broken relationship (nor should it).
Also, Owen was right. Amelia was making a false equivalency. Owen's trauma response was done in his sleep. Teddy chose to lie for a really long time.
I agree with you David. Forgiveness will not fix what has happened but it can give them both closure to move on.
Owen is the most toxic person on the show.
You should never forgive someone for cheating and not being honest about it. Facts.
Whew she read him to FILTH!!! Finally 😭
When I hear Cristina, my heart ❤was freakin POUNDING.. took me WAAAAY BACK to SEASON 5 where Owen strangled Cristina.
And this kids is what we like to call GASLIGHTING someone into forgiving someone who has very badly hurt them because the person who hurt you is also hurting. A FaNtStIc lesson.
I think part of what makes this conversation so impactful is that Amelia is not saying things out of spite or to hurt Owen like a lot of the other arguments on the show. She has nothing personal to gain from Teddy & Owen getting back together, she is only trying to help Owen (and Teddy)
“Let’s have him get cheated on on his wedding day, publicly humiliated about it, and then make the result of the fallout be that the audience hates him” - greys anatomy writing room
dude i just LOVE Amelia so fucking much like she is the BEST
I haven't watched GA since S10 and I am glad to see that they still have amazing scenes like this.
amelia is carrying the show at this point
Yessss Amelia 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 the truth he needed and it couldn’t be from anybody else but Amelia 💕
Amelia woke up and chose VIOLENCE
And we are here for it
I was so hoping that Megan Hunt would showed up to talk another common sense with Owen AGAIN! I'm glad Amelia did..
Also he put them on a broken plane which resulted in both Mark and Lexi's death n others. Amelia told him everything he NEEDED to hear.
Caterina did her GOOD ACTING in this scene!!!!
YEAYEA TELL HIM AMELIA!
i thought Henry was the love of her life.. i wish he wouldn't have died.. they were perfect together..
Same, I loved Henry so much. Not really a fan of Allison and Teddy bc it feels like a retcon? And takes away from Henry’s death. Henry and Teddy should have just left together
I'm in love with Amilia, she is the best character that was left on the show
Team Amelia Here....You Go Girl
I give Amelia so much credit here because she didn’t just throw Owens past in his face she actually tied it all together unlike most of the fan base
Caterina is so good when in come to any intervention. 🥺
In my opinion Henry loved Teddy wholeheartedly and unconditionally. Kinda dissapointed they didn't address how his death impacted Teddy more considering that Teddy is a widow and that she lost her husband in the same hospital she now works.
To Owen, Teddy always came 2nd, he always chose other people over her, 1st with Christina then with Amelia. He kept stringing her along after choosing other people over her time and time again.
Teddy's first love Alison was also involved with someone else before and during their relationship. What they had was an Affair.
Teddy lost her parents then found love with Allison. She lost Allison and then ran to the Army where she met Owen.
She 'lost' Owen to Christina so the ran to Henry (who loved her completely).
She lost Henry so she ran to Germany and then Owen followed her there (after Amelia told him to) and Teddy thought someone she had loved for years finally saw her and had chosen her only to find out that no less than 24hours ago he had slept with his ex-wife who told him to pursue her. Understandably it hurt a lot and just when she was starting to move on she finds out that she's pregnant with Owen's baby and that she's alone so of course she ran back to Seattle only to find that Owen and Amelia were back together and raising a family.
Owen finds out about the baby and chooses to stick with Amelia whom he declares he can't be without only for him to act all jealous when he realizes that Teddy might be moving on with Tom Koracick (who despite appearances is a great guy btw).
So Owen and Amelia break up... all the while Owen confuses the hell out of Teddy who for some reason chooses to get back together with Owen (who never chooses her) and leave Tom (who always puts her first and considers her feelings and well-being all the time).
So now Owen finds out that Amelia may be pregnant with his baby and Teddy now understandably panics (given her history with Owen choosing other people over her) and goes/runs back to Tom (who loves her unconditionally).
Teddy cheating on Owen was wrong, so very wrong but I understand why she did it. It was selfish yes but what this episode showed and Amelia underscored so eloquently is that Teddy never took the time to grieve the loss of her parents, Allison (and Henry) and that she's dealing with PTSD which has affected her relationships and decisions she has made in her personal life. I truly hope that now that she (Teddy) is aware of it, she can get the help she so desperately needs.
In my opinion her and Owen don't work as a couple and it would be healthier for her to move on from that relationship and maybe go back to being friends.
Also, can we talk about how selfless, empathetic and amazing Amelia is. She's a great person. So grounded and understanding. Owen really messed that up. They would have had something great. Glad that Amelia is finally happy again with Linc.
My thoughts exactly! 🙌🏼 (and yes, I wish Henry’s death & their relationship had been touched on in this ep. I too felt it was important and shaped Teddy in many ways. Plus I just miss Henry and shipped Tenry big time so ya..😉)
@@CharlotteJ I know. It broke my heart when he died. He was so good for her. Miss him.
No one works in a relationship with Owen, they all be better of without him
That’s exactly my point. Thank you.
Amelia was INCREDIBLE in this scene. She did not miss.
This is probably the best scene and best lines in the whole 17 season ! Replayed this scene about 20 times over and over again !!!
Meredith has the beach and Teddy has the park. Damn why did this make me emotional 🥺😭
Hands down my favorite Amelia scene 🙌🏼
Caterina Scorsone deserves an Emmy!!
Amelia is just t h e most virtuest person on this show and I'm so glad she exists in it. This is what I would want to tell people like Owen. Literally had goosebumbs watching.
I mean Amelia is completely right. I would never want to be with someone who cheated on me, but if we had a kid together, I'd be mature enough to co-parent. But it seems like he's more mad about Allison than the cheating, which makes no sense.
It’s clear a lot of people don’t like Owen and he did need to hear this but don’t act like teddy didn’t cheat right before the wedding.
Let’s not act like Owen didn’t cheat to
Owen has cheated in almost every one of his relationships. Don't go there
YAAAAS THIS SCENE WAS EVERYTHING !!!! She shut that shit down
This show has given us some crazy amazing character developments!
owen has some nerve being all high & mighty especially towards amelia. did he forget that he kissed teddy while still married to her?!
I love how slowly over the seasons Amelia has become the very very best character on the show.
No screw that. Teddy doesn’t deserve for him to take her back.
Why do I feel like they did this whole trauma thing with Teddy just to make Owen seem like he’s the bad guy for being upset that she cheated on him a couple days before they were supposed to get married? I feel like we only did this so that they could give Owen a solid reason to forgive Teddy. It was crappy there’s no way to salvage Teddy‘s character. And literally all of you a couple months ago were saying how terrible Teddy’s character awful was and how even though you don’t like Owen or not you feel a bad for him. Cheating is a terrible thing end it can mess with somebody self-esteem their Self-Security. And make them feel like they’re worthless and not even worthy of being loved. Owen should forgive Teddy in his own time. Nobody should have to tell him oh just forgive her.
Amelia sounds just like Meredith during her hearing for her liscence when she was talking back to that one dude who killed Derek.
Her words were so strong, it hit a nerve that a traumatized person could relate to. I had to watch the scene twice and one more for the moment.
That Sarcone girl...she's gonna go places! What an amazing actress
The way she said it was just wow! 🥺🥺
So as long as you’re traumatized you can do whatever you want to people and they have to forgive you?! And talking about Owen strangling Christina, he was SLEEPING and having a nightmare. Teddy was wide ass awake and screwing around multiple times. Owen has a right to be upset.
Exactly
Thank you!
Plus, while she’s so IN LOVE with Owen she gave birth to OWENS baby and names her after her TRUE LOVE?!
@@rebeckahcamden4461 That’s what I’m saying! And they trying to compare this to his past relationships like what that have to do with his relationship now with Teddy? They just making excuses for her
Amelia’s explanation of ptsd is just fascinating
Thank you Amelia. It was about damn time he heard it all! No one is perfect. Don't go acting all self righteous just cause your are hurting.
I like how some people mentioned Christina. Because Christina is a legend.