I've had mint ss3000's, mint 5000h baboon bums, I've had brand new 5000t with all the Weston Developments bits. I then had casting tuition with Mark Hutchinson and he had a set of Shimano ci4 14000s on. After a few 160 yard casts with my kit, I did a few 200 yard casts with his kit. During the very first retrieve with the Shimanos I said to myself "why in Gods name am I mucking about with my ancient design reels". The Shimanos were like a Rolls Royce compared to the Daiwas which were like a 1980s Austin Maestro in comparison. The line lay of modern reels is on another level, the smoothness of operation is on another level, the balance, the lightness, and crucially the retrieve rate is on another level. Old Daiwas retrieve is awful. Even with the Weston worm drive, at 100 yards the difference is staggering and genuinely makes a difference to the pleasure of fishing. I sold my ss3000's (blasphemy!), I sold my fully blinged 5000ts after just a few months of ownership, I sold my baboon bums, and I bought Shimano ci4 14000 and 5500 and honestly have never looked back or regretted my decision. My fishing is tangibly more pleasurable as a result. These old Daiwa reels are objectively awful old things at extortionate "carpy scene" prices. I will say though, I use a pair of ss2600s for my stalking and margin fishing and I love them to pieces, I actually think theyre the stars of the "old" Daiwa line up, followed by the baboon bums/emblems.
To get the full benefits of this reel you need all the extra bits from Weston Developments. Spools, line lay, line clips, bail roller, speed caps and black handle knob !!! Then and only then you have that special look and feel for this classic carp reel. Sets you apart and says that you really do have that particular carpy feeling only custom kit can give. Or like me just a tackle tart but oh they do look good.
Have the SS3000's and is basically the same reel. Both are amazing and you will love them once you get used to them. Only issue to highlight, need to find a line that doesn't get damaged by the plastic line clips. Have found Thinking Tackle OGX works well for me. Have tried Gardner HT HD, Subline ect as examples
backwinding is a bit of an old school thing from an age when reel clutches weren't the best. It's not necessary for all occasions and I'd say (even as someone who does it out of habit) the only time it is really advantageous is when the fish is right under the rod tip because you have more fine control of whether to let the fish run or whether to lock things down, you don't end up in that situation where the fish feels like it's beaten and you've tightened the clutch only for it to go on one last mad run and pull the hook because you were unable to react fast enough.
I been in the same boat for ages wanting these reels and finally got them today although I went with the 6000t as it holds more line and I will using them for sea fishing . They will probably outlast me and if I ever get bored of them they hold there value very well
Definitely going to look into these for my catfishing. Really like the European big pit reels for that because of the huge amount of line i can put on it and the insane drag strength you get because of the torque of having alot of line on tight.
I've got these reels and I love them the only thing I would say is change the line clip as its shocking ,it will nick the line and I've even had it cut it I even put some marker elastic under the line clip but that don't really help but other than that they are a very good reel 👍
I have owned both 5000T and 6000T and used them mainly for beach casting and foreign trips. They are well built but the rubber ring at the bottom of the spool will crack and need replacing every few years. These are extremely robust and will last for decades.
You have to remember that these reels are a 30 year old design and when they were first made, we did not “clip up”. The line clip was purely to stop line peeling off the spool when not being used. It’s the same with the Emblem X 5000t. Having said that, I use the Windcast QDA and the clips are absolutely perfect. It would not take much to redesign the current clips on the Tournaments.
Hi mate, of corse I understand this. I just keep my reviews as real as I can. I see a lot of “reviews” on UA-cam where a product hasn’t even been used or has many negative points but it’s not brought up. I mentioned the line clip because now a clip is used often in fishing and people should be aware that your line will be damaged, potentially cracking off or even worse loosing a fish that’s towing a rig because of it. Still think they’re the best on the market 😉🎣
@@rodsup3934 gotcha! We used to place a small section of pole elastic under the clip to solve the problem. It pushes the clip open a little, and the elastic helps prevent line damage. I still do this on my original Baboons as I did not want to damage the spools with the new “modern” clips that require a small spool modification to fit.
Hi mate yeah the line clip is rubbish they were the same on the ss 3000 twenty years ago it is about they change them because the other dawia reels have good line clips.i have got the dawia ts5000be reels love them but same problem with my spools.i have had the slow oscillation done on mine the line lay is brilliant and it has made the difference when I have been casting out.with squeal on spool I just spray silicone on them and all ok mate tight lines 👍👍
Hi mate, yeah it’s really poor as mine clips go! I haven’t had my new ones delivered yet. What did you have to do for the slow oscillation? I’ll get that don’t in the future. 🎣👍🏼
I agree mate. The clip is really poor. I haven’t seen any videos of people discussing it so thought I would for someone who is possibly going to purchase them. Thanks for the support 👍🏼🎣
It depends. Had the S5000T but sold them when the Infinitys came out, bought those. The Infinity casts quite well, better than the S5000T and is a more modern design, but the extra large diameter Spool brings a lot of torque to the spool axle. While winding in heavy loads, everything bends, so they do the job but won't last forever. The knob for the baitrunner adjustment feels extremely cheap and flimsy. And the baitrunner doesn't work as intended, the large and heavy spool needs quite some force to start spinning and doesn't stop doing that immediately after the fish stops, there is too much momentum. Hadn't kept mine for long, switched to the Shimano Longcast, which are imo a far better design, but baitrunner and big longcast spool isn't a good match at all. So bought a set of S5000T a second time shortly after. Much sturdier and more practical. Don't know how expensive the Penn Surfblaster is over there, but that would be my go to reel nowadays if weight doesn't matter. Shimano Ultegra if it does, or, if long distance is archieved by using a boat, would buy a non Longcast Penn Spinfisher or Shimano Baitrunner D or OC, or even a Multiplier. Think the S5000T is a nice thing, but the clip, the wobbly rotor, weight, line catching lineroller and oldfashioned expensive spool are not really up to date.
Cheers mate. I’m chuffed with them. Where about do you live? There’s the MKAA Milton Keynes ticket. Only £50 for the year, plenty of carp to catch on the lakes here.
Hi mate, thanks appreciate it! Yeah still love them. There are plenty of newer technology reels on the market but I’m glad I went with what I want rather than what’s new. Let me know how you get on 👍🏼. Shop around you can find them at a half decent price
@@rodsup3934 personal preference is such a key thing dude. The fact you can customise retro reels with modern components is so cool and unique and the prospect of slowing upgrading them overtime keeps the carp bug ticking haha. I've found a set with a few blemishes for £500 for 3. Seems a bit too good if you ask me.
them reels are mustard mate, love the retro look, id defo be up for a social. even with my 6 year old girl :Dshes been banging on for ages for me to take her lol.
Hi mate, how have you found these reels for casting and line lay year on? I’m looking at getting a set myself and have seen mixed opinions on way that they cast and the line lay etc
Hi mate, I brought them to hit some distance on a specific lake I was fishing. They didn’t disappoint. I’ve also wanted them a very long time so didn’t just get them for casting. Something I saved up for and generally love the way they look. I love them mate but everyone has an opinion. Go with what you think 👍🏼
Hi fella, always ready good things about these. ‘Workhorses’ seems to spring up a lot. How have you found the main body paint hold up, does it chip easily if it’s metal? Nice reels, always fancied a set myself or at least one for a stalking rod..
Hello mate, so I’ve really used them a lot this year and I absolutely love them. I haven’t noticed anything about the paint. I’m very careful with my gear, the way it’s packed away so fingers crossed they don’t chip!
@@rodsup3934 great stuff glad to hear they’re getting some use! Are they metal body or plastic? My emblem 45’s are plastic I think. I’m torn whether to get one of these Tourney 5000T reels or Whisker SS2600..
Shouldn't of got the caps mate makes them look ugly get some ice washers mate amazing things I have okuma trio rexs looks like these but every part is aluminium the drag wash to slow for me so I got ice washers with in half a turn its locked up
I'll never buy shimano reels again well the newer one I have had the xtd ultegra and with in 6 months they were done for the trio rex are ten times better
I've had mint ss3000's, mint 5000h baboon bums, I've had brand new 5000t with all the Weston Developments bits.
I then had casting tuition with Mark Hutchinson and he had a set of Shimano ci4 14000s on. After a few 160 yard casts with my kit, I did a few 200 yard casts with his kit.
During the very first retrieve with the Shimanos I said to myself "why in Gods name am I mucking about with my ancient design reels". The Shimanos were like a Rolls Royce compared to the Daiwas which were like a 1980s Austin Maestro in comparison.
The line lay of modern reels is on another level, the smoothness of operation is on another level, the balance, the lightness, and crucially the retrieve rate is on another level. Old Daiwas retrieve is awful. Even with the Weston worm drive, at 100 yards the difference is staggering and genuinely makes a difference to the pleasure of fishing.
I sold my ss3000's (blasphemy!), I sold my fully blinged 5000ts after just a few months of ownership, I sold my baboon bums, and I bought Shimano ci4 14000 and 5500 and honestly have never looked back or regretted my decision.
My fishing is tangibly more pleasurable as a result.
These old Daiwa reels are objectively awful old things at extortionate "carpy scene" prices.
I will say though, I use a pair of ss2600s for my stalking and margin fishing and I love them to pieces, I actually think theyre the stars of the "old" Daiwa line up, followed by the baboon bums/emblems.
To get the full benefits of this reel you need all the extra bits from Weston Developments. Spools, line lay, line clips, bail roller, speed caps and black handle knob !!! Then and only then you have that special look and feel for this classic carp reel. Sets you apart and says that you really do have that particular carpy feeling only custom kit can give. Or like me just a tackle tart but oh they do look good.
Have the SS3000's and is basically the same reel. Both are amazing and you will love them once you get used to them. Only issue to highlight, need to find a line that doesn't get damaged by the plastic line clips. Have found Thinking Tackle OGX works well for me. Have tried Gardner HT HD, Subline ect as examples
backwinding is a bit of an old school thing from an age when reel clutches weren't the best. It's not necessary for all occasions and I'd say (even as someone who does it out of habit) the only time it is really advantageous is when the fish is right under the rod tip because you have more fine control of whether to let the fish run or whether to lock things down, you don't end up in that situation where the fish feels like it's beaten and you've tightened the clutch only for it to go on one last mad run and pull the hook because you were unable to react fast enough.
I been in the same boat for ages wanting these reels and finally got them today although I went with the 6000t as it holds more line and I will using them for sea fishing . They will probably outlast me and if I ever get bored of them they hold there value very well
Definitely going to look into these for my catfishing. Really like the European big pit reels for that because of the huge amount of line i can put on it and the insane drag strength you get because of the torque of having alot of line on tight.
I've got these reels and I love them the only thing I would say is change the line clip as its shocking ,it will nick the line and I've even had it cut it I even put some marker elastic under the line clip but that don't really help but other than that they are a very good reel 👍
Tourney 5000t have been longer then this guy has been alive.
Wrong about that one….. Blessed with genetics, I’ll take your comment as a compliment.
I have owned both 5000T and 6000T and used them mainly for beach casting and foreign trips. They are well built but the rubber ring at the bottom of the spool will crack and need replacing every few years. These are extremely robust and will last for decades.
I absolutely love them to be honest. That’s very good to know!! Can you buy spares online?
@RODS UP Yup, they are easy to get hold of.
Hi im new in fishing and i want to cast unlimited distance. Is this the best reel i can use for long casting?
Get rid of the Daiwa spool and buy either the Weston spool or the MV spool and you won’t need the rubber ring at all. Problem solved.
You have to remember that these reels are a 30 year old design and when they were first made, we did not “clip up”. The line clip was purely to stop line peeling off the spool when not being used.
It’s the same with the Emblem X 5000t.
Having said that, I use the Windcast QDA and the clips are absolutely perfect. It would not take much to redesign the current clips on the Tournaments.
Hi mate, of corse I understand this. I just keep my reviews as real as I can. I see a lot of “reviews” on UA-cam where a product hasn’t even been used or has many negative points but it’s not brought up.
I mentioned the line clip because now a clip is used often in fishing and people should be aware that your line will be damaged, potentially cracking off or even worse loosing a fish that’s towing a rig because of it. Still think they’re the best on the market 😉🎣
@@rodsup3934 gotcha! We used to place a small section of pole elastic under the clip to solve the problem. It pushes the clip open a little, and the elastic helps prevent line damage.
I still do this on my original Baboons as I did not want to damage the spools with the new “modern” clips that require a small spool modification to fit.
Yeah I’ve seen the pole elastic used for this. I might give it a go before I replace the clips.
Hi mate yeah the line clip is rubbish they were the same on the ss 3000 twenty years ago it is about they change them because the other dawia reels have good line clips.i have got the dawia ts5000be reels love them but same problem with my spools.i have had the slow oscillation done on mine the line lay is brilliant and it has made the difference when I have been casting out.with squeal on spool I just spray silicone on them and all ok mate tight lines 👍👍
Hi mate, yeah it’s really poor as mine clips go! I haven’t had my new ones delivered yet.
What did you have to do for the slow oscillation? I’ll get that don’t in the future. 🎣👍🏼
SHocking that a reel that price has bad line clip .....................keep them coming
I agree mate. The clip is really poor. I haven’t seen any videos of people discussing it so thought I would for someone who is possibly going to purchase them.
Thanks for the support 👍🏼🎣
I’m looking to buy some Daiwa Infinity X BR Reels, do people recommend then for long distance? And just generally how are they?
Hi mate, I haven’t used them or know anyone who has so could say. I love hit spots I couldn’t before with the 5000t though.
It depends. Had the S5000T but sold them when the Infinitys came out, bought those. The Infinity casts quite well, better than the S5000T and is a more modern design, but the extra large diameter Spool brings a lot of torque to the spool axle. While winding in heavy loads, everything bends, so they do the job but won't last forever. The knob for the baitrunner adjustment feels extremely cheap and flimsy. And the baitrunner doesn't work as intended, the large and heavy spool needs quite some force to start spinning and doesn't stop doing that immediately after the fish stops, there is too much momentum. Hadn't kept mine for long, switched to the Shimano Longcast, which are imo a far better design, but baitrunner and big longcast spool isn't a good match at all. So bought a set of S5000T a second time shortly after. Much sturdier and more practical.
Don't know how expensive the Penn Surfblaster is over there, but that would be my go to reel nowadays if weight doesn't matter. Shimano Ultegra if it does, or, if long distance is archieved by using a boat, would buy a non Longcast Penn Spinfisher or Shimano Baitrunner D or OC, or even a Multiplier.
Think the S5000T is a nice thing, but the clip, the wobbly rotor, weight, line catching lineroller and oldfashioned expensive spool are not really up to date.
Lovely set of reels mate ,I’m pretty local to you ,any local club waters you would suggest
Cheers mate. I’m chuffed with them. Where about do you live? There’s the MKAA Milton Keynes ticket. Only £50 for the year, plenty of carp to catch on the lakes here.
Just outside Bedford ,it’s just some of the lakes here are a nightmare to get on
Currently on the blunham ac ticket ,fishing willington lakes
I have 3 pc Tournament S5000T reels, and these are the best big pit reels You can buy.
Hey mate, it's a year down the line. How're they holding up? I'm looking at getting some myself and found your video honest and informative!
Hi mate, thanks appreciate it! Yeah still love them. There are plenty of newer technology reels on the market but I’m glad I went with what I want rather than what’s new. Let me know how you get on 👍🏼. Shop around you can find them at a half decent price
@@rodsup3934 personal preference is such a key thing dude. The fact you can customise retro reels with modern components is so cool and unique and the prospect of slowing upgrading them overtime keeps the carp bug ticking haha. I've found a set with a few blemishes for £500 for 3. Seems a bit too good if you ask me.
them reels are mustard mate, love the retro look, id defo be up for a social. even with my 6 year old girl :Dshes been banging on for ages for me to take her lol.
Cheers mate, I love them! Wanted to buy them for years
Let’s get it organised for spring then 👍🏼
You might need to get ice washers for the spool
Watch my next video uploading Wednesday 😉
Hi mate, how have you found these reels for casting and line lay year on? I’m looking at getting a set myself and have seen mixed opinions on way that they cast and the line lay etc
Hi mate, I brought them to hit some distance on a specific lake I was fishing. They didn’t disappoint. I’ve also wanted them a very long time so didn’t just get them for casting. Something I saved up for and generally love the way they look.
I love them mate but everyone has an opinion. Go with what you think 👍🏼
Does anyone know how much line it holds with the reducer on ?
I will try to find out for you
Top reels I have the BE version I’m always up for a social bud
Might add this is my sons account as he used to upload on here haha just realised 😂
@@austinplays9359 haha I was going to say 🤣🤣
Love the reels best I’ve had!
Hi fella, always ready good things about these. ‘Workhorses’ seems to spring up a lot. How have you found the main body paint hold up, does it chip easily if it’s metal? Nice reels, always fancied a set myself or at least one for a stalking rod..
Hello mate, so I’ve really used them a lot this year and I absolutely love them. I haven’t noticed anything about the paint. I’m very careful with my gear, the way it’s packed away so fingers crossed they don’t chip!
@@rodsup3934 great stuff glad to hear they’re getting some use! Are they metal body or plastic? My emblem 45’s are plastic I think. I’m torn whether to get one of these Tourney 5000T reels or Whisker SS2600..
@@MudPigChaser they’re metal body mate. You can get some decent deals on eBay. If you’re only looking for 1 you can find them for around £140-£200
Bit big for a stalking rod, try the ss2600 instead
Indestructible reels
Love that!
I love these but 😢I don't own them yet.
Nice coffee grinders !!
👍🏼
Shouldn't of got the caps mate makes them look ugly get some ice washers mate amazing things I have okuma trio rexs looks like these but every part is aluminium the drag wash to slow for me so I got ice washers with in half a turn its locked up
Ordered ice washers aswell. 100% the speed caps make the reels look ugly.
Best Reels ever.
I use the 5500t with ss3000 Sparespool
Hmmmmm....
Look pretty. That's it !!!
Does look pretty doesn’t it 😊
That really is it
Have had them. They are good, but old donkeys compared to new technology now.
They’re definitely not packed with new tech but it’s not something that bothers me. Tried and tested 😉🎣
@@rodsup3934 Its just for range fishing (casting) there is much better out there now
Yes, NEW BS is ALWAYS better.
I'll never buy shimano reels again well the newer one I have had the xtd ultegra and with in 6 months they were done for the trio rex are ten times better
trio rex?
@@chucky1golf yeah okuma trio rex