I got the 16GB ram 1TB Mac mini for the flexibility, whether it’s on my desk or connected to my TV as a media center, I think the Mac mini will age better as you can always update the screen.
Same here, I have the base with 16Gb. If I did not already have a monitor(s) I would consider the iMac, I use dual 34" ultrawide and my kids have dual 24" dells, one of them is from 2006. Once the M2 mini is out I will buy one and the M1 mini will go to the kids.
Agree, if I were buying a new Mac, I'd so similar. With the mini you can upgrade monitor and keyboard - Apple keyboard is ok-ish, but its not HHKB (Topre switch)/Filco quality. And monitor - I think again, there are alternatives out and you can choose the budget to suit what you need.
I was determined to wait for the new iMac and then I broke down and bought the M1 Mac Mini last year...best decision ever. More connections. Less room. And I got a wonderful monitor that I can ALSO plug my PS4 into.
You missed the most important difference and best reason for mini. I’ve got Mac mini ($650) with 28in 4K display ($350) and love it. I already own a keyboard, mouse and wired speakers that cost $30 but sound fantastic. Now I can upgrade my computer every 2 years no problem. This is the real benefit to mini vs. iMac. I sell my mini on eBay in 2 years for $300-350 and get the newest one. In the end I’m going to be spending $125-175 per yr and never having outdated hardware. Honestly, my Netflix now cost more than that. Previously, I would buy an iMac and wait 4-6yr because it’s another chunk of money to replace; staying miserable with slower computer for the last of those years. Mini FTW!
@@obscvre let’s say the depreation value is 40% (just an example, no idea what it really is), 40% of 1300 is a lot more than 40% of $650. For your argument, you’d have to prove that for some reason they lost value at much grater rates from each other. I’m just going to guess losing a percentage of a more expensive initial item is always going to end up costing more than taking depreciation value of an item with cheaper up front cost.
@@TheGreatestJuJu So you're not upgrading your monitor at all in those two year? Okay, maybe it's not a big deal over the span of a couple years, but eventually you're going to be buying a new monitor, which isn't cheap if you're buying one on par with the quality of an iMac monitor. A 27" 5k monitor is easily going to run you over a grand, regardless of the brand. Your comparison isn't exactly apples to apples when you leave out the cost of a new monitor. Maybe a good monitor isn't essential for what you use your computer for, but for a lot of people who use Macs, the quality of the monitor is important (photography, videography, graphic design, etc.)
@@brandonb.5304 The next monitor I upgrade to won’t even be a monitor but some version of VR or AR, 6-8 years from now. I believe 4k is future proof enough for the majority of casual users, you know the ones the iMac and Mini where designed for. If you are a professional in the visual arts and need fancier than that, you’re probably also a user that wants more than 27in (and more ram) or are into having the greatest tech which also isn’t 5k. Not only was I literally comparing Apples to Apples but figuratively comparing two products that offer almost completely identical performance, however, also have small caveats in the window dressings (accessories), by definition most would consider this an apples to apples comparison.
@@brandonb.5304 also that 28" 4k monitor must either be a heck of a deal or just far from apples standards in display quality. But i guess the nem imac did decrease in quality, back in the days a 27 inch model with 5k monitor was a bang for the buck considering the included screen, now the 24 inch 4,5k screen doesnt get my interest at all. i hope they someday announce a 27 inch 5k model with m1x and more than 2 ports on the back and the old design , i'd buy that. if they put the 24 inch design on the 27" machine i'll probably buy the cheapest mac mini and a monitor from a company that is not apple. i think the energy efficiency of the m1 is the only argurment pro apple atm. they deliver no ports, have always had trashy thermals, no right to repair and made it impossible to upgrade resulting in a planed absolescence with produces huge amounts of e-waste while same time greenwashing their company in the ads. Apple gone downhill since Tim.
Well thank you! As a two screen user, I won’t feel that I’ve missed out with the Mac Mini we’ve been enjoying since earlier this year. We did have to buy a camcorder though, for Zoom - and a dongle for the 2nd screen to the iMac mini. We already had screens, keypad and mouse from our old windows desktop, and the Mac mini is completely fine with 3rd party accessories. The kids would love the iMac though, which would be perfect for them... one day.
@Chris right but 50 dollars on a cheap camera and a dongle for the mac mini is way different then a few hundred dollar difference for the imac. and if they had bought the imac they still would’ve needed a usb hub (assuming that the keyboard and mouse are wireless) so it’s really no big deal ?
@Chris yeah i said cheap so what lol? with all that in total it’s still less than even the base model of an imac. and you can have a bigger screen as well. you’re mega weird for getting upset bc people don’t want to spend 1200-2000 dollars on a computer when they can get it for 700 lol, people are right you apple fanboys are crazy no logic in sight 💀
You are a really good speaker / presenter. …Clear voice, great rate of speech, no detectable regional accent. You come off as being earnest and enthusiastic. Cheers!
@@Amplified435 When you speak General American English (perceived as without regional markers and the most common American accent), you are a more effective communicator to a broader audience in America and around the world. Accents that significantly diverge from GAE are widely less normalized and are a minor distraction from speech content; the brain must spend more space and power to parse a less-familiar dialect. General American is more easily accessible to all audiences especially when clear communication of information is the most important factor.
One of the huge positives that I don't think the M1 is getting enough coverage on is legacy hardware support. I bought the M1 mac mini and plugged it right into my thunderbolt display. From there, I plugged in my 14-year-old firewire RME audio interface, which works perfectly. From there, I plug in my guitar pedal board switcher via 5-pin MIDI. I can modify patches on my board seamlessly.
Ayy! Another video, I’d definitely pay extra for the 4.5K display and the all in one form factor but the I/O on the Mac mini and that price point would really tempt me
@@RobertGaron I use a Lenovo ThinkVision T27p-10 It's a great looking 27" 4k USB-C Monitor (It has HDMI, and Display Port too) It's $349, but they have a eCoupon now so you can get it $314.10 on Lenovo's site (I Just looked)
7:37 “This obviously isn’t apples to apples” The irony in that statement is hilarious to me because it is literally a comparison of one Apple to another Apple lol
One thing I do like about the mini is I can literally go to a friends house and with an HDMI connect to a TV in their house, not perfect but nice bridge between laptop and desktop. That iMac is some nice though.
The thing is that a display like the m1 iMac is really good. Finding something similar for the price difference of the Mac mini and iMac. Finding a good display even at 1K is hard for content creators.
Yes, but it depends on your needs. I have a 34" QHD curved ultra wide. I do music production I dont need the colors to be good, or the display to be top notch. It all comes down to your needs
On the other hand If you have a separate display, you can reuse it on a future computer, without having to buy a whole new monitor. So upfront can be a bit more expensive but in the long run it is pretty good
Thank you Everyday Dad today I purchased a Mac mini with accessories. Your videos helped me so much!! Keep doing what you do😃 You are very much appreciated!!!
This was JUST the comparison video I was looking for!! I always appreciate your reviews. I'm coming from a 2015 13" MacBook Pro, so either would be an improvement for me!
Coming from an old 21.5 imac my new Imac is amazing and makes sense for me. The screen just amazing I love the all in one. The new design is just beautiful to me. It fits into a family setting better and has that retro G3 feel.
Remember the added cost of the Space Gray keyboard/mouse/trackpad over the silver magic accessories not counting the TouchID! So at least $20 more per each for a colored iMac model!
Its an easy choice of if you need that screen or not, I have a 27" 5k iMac but needed a 2nd unit, I was originally going for the mini and an external monitor as was concerned the 24" would be to small, but out of impulse I still went for the 24" and I am enjoying the 24" screen and don't miss the larger screen, obviously this depends on the users needs for how much screen they need. all the best to you.
i came really close to getting the imac then i found out i could use one of my old displays that can hook up through hdmi. honestly the best decision i made and saved me a ton of money just going with the mac mini 🔥
My 2011 27" iMac display stopped working with the only solution is bringing that behemoth to a service center. The fact that a 10 year old computer still ran great made it easy on my decision on which computer I will be getting. I went to Apples website with the intent to purchase another 27" iMac, until I saw Mac Mini featured on the homepage. After a bit of research, I decided to get the M1, 16GB ram version. I bought a Dell 27" monitor, speakers and USB hub. I already have a perfectly working magic keyboard and mouse. So in total, I saved a whole bunch of $$. After 2 months of usage (web, streaming, music) I am very happy with the Mac Mini M1.
Part of the value of the mini is that, unless it's your first computer, you are quite likely to already have some of the things already. I already had two 1440p monitors so I just needed to buy one cable and another keyboard. I've plugged my midi controller in, it just worked, I plugged my external DAC/Headphone amp in, and it just worked as did my USB speakers and my USB capture card. One of my monitors had a usb 3 hub built in, so I attached an external SSD. Magnificent system, and totally quiet.
Same. I got it right away knowing that the amount of speed gained would be better than my old setup and cheap enough that when I sell it fo the the M1x or M2, knowing I would loose, what, 2-300 dollars. The amount of time saved on all of the editing is well worth it. Happy to wait.
Thanks for the recommendation about the refurbished store, just picked up a M1 Mac mini with 16gb ram and 1tb storage for the same price as the 512gb model. It’ll be here on Monday. Hopefully it’ll be a major upgrade from my 2014 iMac 27” with 24gb of ram. You keep banging out these videos at a crazy pace. Keep it up!!
I think that the Mac Mini is definitely better as you have the choice of the accessories you use. It’s much more functional and optional. The screen is the biggest thing, I could imagine a lot of people don’t like the iMac screens and would prefer something more gamer like in all ways.
My biggest gripe with the new iMac is the i/o. The new iMac should have had the same I/O as the Mac mini even if it means making the computer a little bit thicker and heavier. Thin and light does not matter for a desktop since it just sits on a desk.
The Samsung monitor isn't 4K. In your screenshot the resolution listed was 2560x1440. That said, it should be possible to get a 4k monitor for around that price, and bigger too since 27" is a much more common size for 4k monitors. Quality won't be as good as Apple though. Either way, nice vid!
I feel like I have seen hundreds of your videos, and I've never seen anyone with as strong a hatfishing game as you in the webcam demo 🤣 I've been trying to work out whether my mother would be best served by replacing her 2013 17" iMac with a 24" iMac M1, the Mac Mini or an MacBook Air + screen, and your price comparisons to get them equal really helped me organise my thinking on that a lot clearer
@@davidhunternyc1 for sure, repairs on an m1 machine :D like thats my main concern. i personally dont use products apart from their phones from later than 2012 because those you could upgrade and repair yourselfs. i dont think apples new ecosystem is in any way going to reduce the amount of absolutely needlessly produced ewaste. id rather think if their really energy efficient arm based system is changing the market , we as the consumers are all fucked. as soon as they've got their monopoly m1 macs will be 4 times the price and there will be no alternative. ram upgrades will stay the same since they literally are already just the biggest rip offs imaginable. hell even the 2019 imac was user upgradeable with the ram supporting up to 128 gigs just by opening a door on the back, and even cpu gpu and storage could be exchanged by professionals or by urself if ur tech-savy. if a part broke u could replace it even though apple has gone in the anti consumer no repair direction since steve died, but there always was like a certain line the couldnt cross because it wasnt their hardware. they couldnt physically limit all the users possibilities at the same time. with arm in their back they now chose if your imac or mac mini is going to be obsolete tomorrow while maybe at least ur ipad powered by the same chip stays supported
Interesting to note, both macs are very capable at accepting BT keyboards and mice as well as wired versions. You are under no requirement to buy the the "Magic" keyboard or mouse, (It's still stupid where they put the charging port on said mouse), so even a $15 Logitech keyboard and a $10 BT mouse will do the trick. Heck, I use a $20 Anker BT keyboard I bought for tablets and that same Logitech mouse for my MacBook when I have it plugged into my 4k monitor and they work flawlessly.
Just love my Mac mini it’s mostly being used for Adobe illustrator and it works as a breach 👍 and that for a 16gb 512 memory, coming from 25 years off pc I just love it and don’t miss windows I am a 🍏 fanboy
I started with the Blue which seems to be the main default iMac system with 256gigs of SSD on a trail bases. I have since last year, The iPhone 13 Pro Max, Apple Watch 7 and the iPad Pro 5th Generation and of course some Air Pod Pro's which are freaking great! I really fell in love with the iMac and the Mac OS is all new to me, except what I get on my iPad Pro and iPhone 13. I have been a PC user for decades and loving how all these Apple devices just seemingly connect to one another and how you can so easily transfer files and pictures around, (I haven't learned split screen yet, but I will.) My Apple Watch lets unlocks my iMac when I am close to it, which I know you guys know this, but it is so freaking cool to me. Never seen that before. Since, my move into the iMac 24" I did make the choice of at least getting 512gigs of storage and I have a green iMac on the way. I decided not to get the 16gigs, not because I don't want it, I just don't want to wait almost 3 freaking months to get it. Which is a bit ridiculous to me. Just wish Apple made it where we could just purchase separately from them if need be and get the upgrades we want without waiting 3 months or less to have them install it for us. (Seems were back in the stone age of Apple here, When you want to update your PC you just buy the parts you need and you are golden. With an Apple when you want to upgrade you just take it, throw it away and go buy another one scenario.) I was interested in the iMac Air, but the small screen is a real downer and with the new OS 16 around the corner I can use my iPad Pro as a reasonable Laptop and do what I need to do within reason on it. I don't have anything against the Mac Mini. The price is nice to say the least and I do have a 55" OLED tv I can run it though, but knowing I have to switch between watching a movie or playing on my PS5 all the time, plus having to either buy cheaper screens or different parts or even pay far more just to get say everything Apple I figured the iMac is a safe bet. Plus, I ran 2 split screens on my iMac had 2 separate webpages where one I can surf the other I was running UA-cam videos where I can have that play on my 55" OLED tv was insanely cool. I really do like this package, I am loving the new keyboard with the touch id and the new mouse is pretty cool too. Of course, everyone has their own preferences. I have ordered a different iMac from Costco a Green iMac 24" with 512gigs of storage is on the way. I don't feel I need anymore than 512gigs plus I can just port to an external SSD or send to iCloud for storage and backup. Coming from the PC world it is truly sad I have to return this machine because I can't just buy what I need upgrade wise and install it myself. Which leaves returning it as my only option.
Another thing to note: the iMac monitor is not height-adjustable, it only tilts. If you need that vertical adjustability, the Mac Mini coupled with an external monitor works better.
As someone that regularly swaps between Windows and Mac for work the Mac mini is amazing. Being able to run two different computers/OS off of one set of peripherals on my desk is awesome. Plus being able to upgrade a Mac mini for $500 every couple of years is much more feasible than having to buy a brand new iMac every other product cycle.
Thanks for the video! I've been having some serious debates between which of these two I want to purchase. I am however waiting for the M1 chip to be compatible with a handful of music production software.
I need the ability to use the iMac as external monitor. Otherwise won’t fit in my home office setup where I have a windows laptop for work. Quite sure I’ll manage getting a nice setup with a Mac mini too though. Just waiting for the next version.
I think the important point about pricing is, if someone doesn't care about display quality being top notch, or having a very nice webcam, you can save money with the Mini. The issue is, the closest thing to the iMacs display, is the $700 LG Ultrafine, plus to get the same look of webcam, youd probably be looking at an Logi C920 or Brio. Speakers like you said $100. Bringing the total WAY above the iMac. Port selection is nice for sure, but the iMac is basically the Mac Mini, without the hdmi (dont need it), ethernet (in the brick), or USB 2.0 ports (bummer) on device. In this case, matching the two equally, you'd SAVE ~$350 by going with the iMac I really think it all comes down to the persons work flow, and how much quality they want out of their peripherals.
I managed to get: - M1 Mac Mini (16GB / 256GB) - Apple Creation Suite (FCP, Motion, etc) - Samsung 32" UHD Monitor - Magic Keyboard and Trackpad - Logitech 1080p Webcam ...for £1229 ($1739) in total. And yet the same spec iMac (with a smaller 24" screen) would come to £1649 ($2333) without even considering FCP, Motion etc as separate purchases. If you play it smart and get all the components seperatley like I did, then you can save hundreds and still have a larger screen to use. The M1 Mac Mini is amazing value, and the iMac machines as a let down in comparison in my opinion.
Most people already have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse from older devices. So the M1 Mac Mini makes more sense for me. But if you really want everything brand new and in the same package, the new M1 iMac looks great.
It depends what you need, I feel like the iMac is good for like a college student because everything is included, but at the same time, they would most likely opt for the MBP or the MBA
You're the first channel I follow discussing Mac products that have mentioned the great noise cancellation on the iMac. I will probably never use the camera because I don't do zoom. I only occasionally do video calls with family and I do have a BlueAir purifier to clean the air of dust so it is good to know if I ever do use it the noise will be reduced. Why pay twice as much? You pretty much covered it. You have to pay twice as much anyway to get a screen, all the accessories, sound, and they might not be as good, and won't be an all-in-one product with a 4.5k Retina screen in such a thin 23.5-inch package.
I'm with you on this. The iMac looks sweet, but I'm still pleased I got my M1 Mini and added my own accessories to it. It's strange NOT to have buyer's remorse when something like this iMac comes out, but I'm still enjoying the good computing experience that is Apple Silicon.
You said that mac mini's fan never turned on. I think, because it has no screen. The i mac on the other hand has a 4.5 k display which has heat sink at the back of it.which we see in apples offical launch. I dont think, the fans turned on because of the cpu, but to get rid of the heat from the 4.5k screen.
The good thing about the Mac mini is you don’t have to upgrade the whole thing when it’s outdated, you just buy a new one and use the monitor you already have. That’s why I decided to go with it.
Imac base model is perfect for my daughters bedroom. School work and casual use. I think that is what the base model is targeted at. All ready in 1 box. No messing about.
No way I'll pay double! I *_never_* use a display, keyboard, mouse, speakers, microphone or camera! I stick my Mac mini on my desk, and it is the PERFECT drink coaster!
You can definitely hear the Mac mini fan. But to do that I have to put my ear right next to it xD I also have it inside a shelf so sound muffles a little bit so I've never heard it without me putting my ear right next to it. It's crazy how quiet and cool it runs. My previous mini PC was a lot louder and my shelf would heat up quite a bit at times.
I have to disagree with your price matching examples because the point of the Mini is to get people into the Apple ecosystem and as someone who tried it out, I already had a monitor,keyboard and mouse along with the speakers so it was a simple $700 buy in, not $1300. Its even cheaper with a refurb model at $589. You can get good quality accessories for a lot less than you quoted and still have an awesome experience with the Mini while saving a lot of money over the iMac.
Well, the screen on the iMac is worth more than the difference in price. The only alternative that gives you the same quality, without scaling issues, is the Studio Display. Which cost as much the entire iMac package. The only advantage of the Mac Mini is flexibility. But then you sacrifice display quality and a super clean and gorgeous minimal setup. The iMac is a design statement in itself. Something you would be proud showing off even in your main living room.
Looks great ! But the speced up mini gets my vote ! I have a keyboard and mouse and I don’t want speakers I use earphones and the lack of portability rules the iMac out for me I could grab the mini and transport it much easier. I went for the MacBook in the end for complete freedom but the mini would be my next choice 👌🏻 great video 👍🏻
Or find the new Mac Mini M1 with 8GB at Costco for $599. Get it while you can. I use headphones so no need for speakers and I don't use a camera so don't need that. Can eliminate those items. Great video by all means. Thanks for sharing.
One major difference tho. If the screen on the imac breaks after 1 year, or 3 if you have the apple care. You’ll have to pay an extra 1200-1500$ to replace the screen.
Thank you for answering the biggest question I had about the M1 Macs that no review of the many I've watched so far have answered: Will it drive a second display? (5:18). No, is the short answer but the HDMI port on the M1 Mac Mini works around that and, I supposed, a dock on the M1 iMac with HDMI (is there such a thing?) would do the same, but I would have to see the quality displayed on the HDMI monitor before buying an M1 Mac. (Comment extended later) I just checked the second display that I currently have on my 2017 iMac Pro. It's the original Apple Thunderbolt Display. I was surprised to see that its only 2560 x 1440. But, I've been completely happy with its fine detail. Assuming the HDMI on the Mini delivers UHD, the output should look better than what I have, but that would also depend on the quality of the HDMI monitor you have I would think.
I have an Anker usb-c dongle with an HDMI port (among others). I've used it to connect my iPad to my TV so I'm sure you could do the same with the iMac.
I have two choices for studio: - Imac 5k 2017 specs I5 3.4/24Bb/1Tb = $1200 - Mac Mini 2018 specs i5 3.0/16Gb/256Gb SSD ($710) + Monitor 4k 28" ($340) + Mouse, keyboard ($50) + Speaker ($200) So what should i go?
Current 2013 iMac: Do I replace it with an iMac or Mac-Mini? ..... my biggest thought is I like the Sockets on my 2013 iMac (Speakers, Keyboard, back-up hard-drive, printer and still have sockets to spare)
I'm in the same boat. It really comes down to the screen, if you want something of the same quality as the iMac then you're going to be spending about the same. You can always get a hub for the iMac which will give you even more ports than the 2013 has
@@jnimitzch4738 Yeah no problem. If you're still undecided, depending on what you do on your computer, you may not even need the display that the iMac offers. You can get a decent 4K screen for around $250 and spend less than the iMac and still have a great computer. Unless you're editing photos or video, the iMac screen is probably overkill. The only thing you'd really be losing in terms of display would be True Tone which is awesome but not enough to justify the cost. You can always get a good set of speakers, so the iMacs aren't really needed. And with the Mini you can always upgrade the display later unlike with the iMac, so in 5-6 years you could get a Micro-LED monitor which would be ten times better than the iMac's display today. I am leaning towards the Mini, especially when you look at the refurbished prices.
@@MyLastSong719 You have explained it well...... I like the all-in-one simplicity of the iMac, but the way you have said it, the Mini makes more sense..... I laugh at myself as in 1990 I built my first PC with parts and a soldering with and now my brain is failing LOL
@@jnimitzch4738 Yeah the simplicity is really nice. If you have the extra cash I say, go for the iMac. You won't regret it and it'll last for the next decade at least, so it'll be worth the expense. If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them!
The difference is you can get what you need with the mini in terms of peripherals. I dont need to spend 200+ just on kb+mouse. I can get some top notch productivity logitech peripherals (MX master + MX keys) and save at least 50 Also the monitor, many people already have them and/or they dont need to get the top notch monitor I think its good that apple is giving you this choice of different options. Its still a bit too expensive in terms of upgrades and stuff but they are on the right track
You have a great voice, you could definitely do radio work.:) Vid is also great, but if you changed those t-shirt, hat and hoodies to nice gentleman's outfit you'd be fierce:D Consider! All the best!
Getting a comparable display as the M1 iMac is easily $1300 on its own. Add that the $700 for the computer itself, $100 for the keyboard, and $80 for the mouse, and it's the Mac Mini that starts getting close to twice as expensive as the iMac, not the other way around.
I find that point a bit ironic since Apple clearly is marketing this for the "average" consumer but with pro features like P3 color accuracy that most wont know about. I have the mini with the cheapest 4k monitor 28" I could find at the time from BB (@$320) and don't use it for editing so for me it makes no difference that extra .5k or P3 color accuracy and I doubt it would for an average user, they would be better of with a mini over the imac in that sense. The monitor I have (Samsung UR55) still packs in useful features like an IPS panel(like the iMac) for different viewing angles and even has HDR support witch the iMac lacks and the screen is matte ( again something that isn't even an option on imac) as well the monitor is nearly bezel-less on three sides, with a miniscule chin. Taking the screen aside and just focusing on raw features or ports, its clear the mac mini is just a better value, you could take the money saved and get a hub underneath for front facing ports, like microSD cardslot and a internal housing for SSD for expandable storage down the line that's more affordable then Apple's own Flash SSD. Not to mention the mini still packs in ethernet at no extra charge no matter what model you get.
The display sucks. It is too tiny (it is 23,5 inch, way smaller than previous 24 inch iMacs) and the insane resolution is a downside, not a plus. It kills the GPU without offering much extra work space (it is basically a 1260x2240 display). Give me a matte 2560x1440 27 inch any time. Or 4K at 32 inch.
I respect the comparison, but you downplayed iMac’s screen with that Mac mini equivalent There’s no way it was even nearly as color accurate, was it even 4.5k?
Good question reason is, you can;t find a decent monitor for 600eur let alone one that matches the imac;s. Decent; retina, p3 / adobe pro rbg, thin, beautiful, good mics in it, webcam in it and decent speakers. Hmu when that exists.
When you get your silver iMac please show us a side by side vie of that one with the Orange one on loan from Apple. I will admit that I was also leaning toward the Silver version as I thought the white bezels would be less distracting than on a colored one. After seeing your Orange iMac, I liking it, but would like to see how it looks directly compared to the Silver one.
By the time you've added a keyboard and mouse, and a nice display, unless you go with cheap alternatives for all of them, the difference is nowhere near as big.
Such a helpful video. Thank you. I'm looking to replace my 10yr old iMac for my home and wondered about the mac mini; I think I'll stick with the iMac. For a 4k 24" monitor to go with a m1 MacBook air what would you recommend?
This was a great video that helped me to make a decision. I have an amazing new monitor and speakers already, so I will just buy the mini. My current iMac is old (2017 I believe) and so is my MacBook (2017), so I definitely need something new. But I thunk a mini would make more sense. Thanks for a great video and helping me to make up my mind.
@@eelay86 well, I guess because in terms of tech my systems are old. Especially since they come out with so many other systems since then. However, they're still in great shape and for that I am thankful!!!!
One question: we read a lot - millions - reviews about difficult to find a proper display working perfectly with the best resolution possible for the Mini . The Imac surpass this one problem alone ?
Are there monitors available that are as good as the Imac screen? I have an old 27-in iMac and I've never run into a monitor that is it's equal. I'm not a fanboy I'm genuinely curious whether there is a monitor that can compete?
I love everything about my dying 2015 iMac, but it's time to replace it. I don't like the white bezel on the new iMac or that they put the Apple logo on the back (that faces the wall on most desktops), and not on the front. It looks very generic sitting on a desk. My old iMac looks so sharp just sitting there with it's black bezel and black etched Apple logo on the front. I am leaning toward the Mac mini, but don't know what monitor to buy- 24" fits my space better than a 27". Any suggestions on what 24" monitor to buy would be appreciated.
@@ArtWithTye That's been the case with every iPad Pro in the last few years tho?? It doesn't make it "pointless", people can still get use of it. Salty much?
Could you please make a video of connecting two external monitors with this iMac? That is my dream setup but I'm not sure if using a dock would affect the performance. Please make it as soon as possible.
I got the 16GB ram 1TB Mac mini for the flexibility, whether it’s on my desk or connected to my TV as a media center, I think the Mac mini will age better as you can always update the screen.
Same here, I have the base with 16Gb. If I did not already have a monitor(s) I would consider the iMac, I use dual 34" ultrawide and my kids have dual 24" dells, one of them is from 2006. Once the M2 mini is out I will buy one and the M1 mini will go to the kids.
@@rumbecker5085 I just gave my late 2014 Mac mini with Ssd upgrade to my 9yr old,
Agree, if I were buying a new Mac, I'd so similar. With the mini you can upgrade monitor and keyboard - Apple keyboard is ok-ish, but its not HHKB (Topre switch)/Filco quality. And monitor - I think again, there are alternatives out and you can choose the budget to suit what you need.
yes like you say the lack of monitor makes it more flexible into the future as a hptc / media server
bingo, similar can be said about attaching external hard drives too though.
I was determined to wait for the new iMac and then I broke down and bought the M1 Mac Mini last year...best decision ever. More connections. Less room. And I got a wonderful monitor that I can ALSO plug my PS4 into.
What monitor did you get ?
You missed the most important difference and best reason for mini.
I’ve got Mac mini ($650) with 28in 4K display ($350) and love it. I already own a keyboard, mouse and wired speakers that cost $30 but sound fantastic. Now I can upgrade my computer every 2 years no problem. This is the real benefit to mini vs. iMac. I sell my mini on eBay in 2 years for $300-350 and get the newest one. In the end I’m going to be spending $125-175 per yr and never having outdated hardware. Honestly, my Netflix now cost more than that. Previously, I would buy an iMac and wait 4-6yr because it’s another chunk of money to replace; staying miserable with slower computer for the last of those years. Mini FTW!
But you can always sell off the iMac as well though it's not like the iMac's gonna decrease in value much compared to Mini?
@@obscvre let’s say the depreation value is 40% (just an example, no idea what it really is), 40% of 1300 is a lot more than 40% of $650. For your argument, you’d have to prove that for some reason they lost value at much grater rates from each other. I’m just going to guess losing a percentage of a more expensive initial item is always going to end up costing more than taking depreciation value of an item with cheaper up front cost.
@@TheGreatestJuJu So you're not upgrading your monitor at all in those two year? Okay, maybe it's not a big deal over the span of a couple years, but eventually you're going to be buying a new monitor, which isn't cheap if you're buying one on par with the quality of an iMac monitor. A 27" 5k monitor is easily going to run you over a grand, regardless of the brand. Your comparison isn't exactly apples to apples when you leave out the cost of a new monitor. Maybe a good monitor isn't essential for what you use your computer for, but for a lot of people who use Macs, the quality of the monitor is important (photography, videography, graphic design, etc.)
@@brandonb.5304 The next monitor I upgrade to won’t even be a monitor but some version of VR or AR, 6-8 years from now. I believe 4k is future proof enough for the majority of casual users, you know the ones the iMac and Mini where designed for. If you are a professional in the visual arts and need fancier than that, you’re probably also a user that wants more than 27in (and more ram) or are into having the greatest tech which also isn’t 5k. Not only was I literally comparing Apples to Apples but figuratively comparing two products that offer almost completely identical performance, however, also have small caveats in the window dressings (accessories), by definition most would consider this an apples to apples comparison.
@@brandonb.5304 also that 28" 4k monitor must either be a heck of a deal or just far from apples standards in display quality. But i guess the nem imac did decrease in quality, back in the days a 27 inch model with 5k monitor was a bang for the buck considering the included screen, now the 24 inch 4,5k screen doesnt get my interest at all. i hope they someday announce a 27 inch 5k model with m1x and more than 2 ports on the back and the old design , i'd buy that. if they put the 24 inch design on the 27" machine i'll probably buy the cheapest mac mini and a monitor from a company that is not apple. i think the energy efficiency of the m1 is the only argurment pro apple atm. they deliver no ports, have always had trashy thermals, no right to repair and made it impossible to upgrade resulting in a planed absolescence with produces huge amounts of e-waste while same time greenwashing their company in the ads. Apple gone downhill since Tim.
Well thank you! As a two screen user, I won’t feel that I’ve missed out with the Mac Mini we’ve been enjoying since earlier this year. We did have to buy a camcorder though, for Zoom - and a dongle for the 2nd screen to the iMac mini. We already had screens, keypad and mouse from our old windows desktop, and the Mac mini is completely fine with 3rd party accessories. The kids would love the iMac though, which would be perfect for them... one day.
@Chris right but 50 dollars on a cheap camera and a dongle for the mac mini is way different then a few hundred dollar difference for the imac. and if they had bought the imac they still would’ve needed a usb hub (assuming that the keyboard and mouse are wireless) so it’s really no big deal ?
@Chris yeah i said cheap so what lol? with all that in total it’s still less than even the base model of an imac. and you can have a bigger screen as well. you’re mega weird for getting upset bc people don’t want to spend 1200-2000 dollars on a computer when they can get it for 700 lol, people are right you apple fanboys are crazy no logic in sight 💀
You are a really good speaker / presenter. …Clear voice, great rate of speech, no detectable regional accent. You come off as being earnest and enthusiastic. Cheers!
Not to sound pc because I’m not, but curious what the accent has to do with anything as long as they have a great personality. jw
@@Amplified435 When you speak General American English (perceived as without regional markers and the most common American accent), you are a more effective communicator to a broader audience in America and around the world. Accents that significantly diverge from GAE are widely less normalized and are a minor distraction from speech content; the brain must spend more space and power to parse a less-familiar dialect. General American is more easily accessible to all audiences especially when clear communication of information is the most important factor.
One of the huge positives that I don't think the M1 is getting enough coverage on is legacy hardware support. I bought the M1 mac mini and plugged it right into my thunderbolt display. From there, I plugged in my 14-year-old firewire RME audio interface, which works perfectly. From there, I plug in my guitar pedal board switcher via 5-pin MIDI. I can modify patches on my board seamlessly.
Ayy! Another video, I’d definitely pay extra for the 4.5K display and the all in one form factor but the I/O on the Mac mini and that price point would really tempt me
For that price difference you can get a better monitor with any size you want.
@@borngymrat no you can’t
@@theerickfreitas You have no idea about the better monitors out there. Just dig into amazon or other stores.
@@borngymrat What monitor do you recommend?
@@RobertGaron
I use a Lenovo ThinkVision T27p-10
It's a great looking 27" 4k USB-C Monitor (It has HDMI, and Display Port too)
It's $349, but they have a eCoupon now so you can get it $314.10 on Lenovo's site (I Just looked)
7:37 “This obviously isn’t apples to apples” The irony in that statement is hilarious to me because it is literally a comparison of one Apple to another Apple lol
You're right, this is the one time where "this is an Apple to Apple comparison" would actually work lol
pun intended
One thing I do like about the mini is I can literally go to a friends house and with an HDMI connect to a TV in their house, not perfect but nice bridge between laptop and desktop. That iMac is some nice though.
The thing is that a display like the m1 iMac is really good. Finding something similar for the price difference of the Mac mini and iMac. Finding a good display even at 1K is hard for content creators.
Yes, but it depends on your needs. I have a 34" QHD curved ultra wide. I do music production I dont need the colors to be good, or the display to be top notch.
It all comes down to your needs
@@pedrosilvaproductions if you had to do graphics work as well then it would be different.
On the other hand If you have a separate display, you can reuse it on a future computer, without having to buy a whole new monitor. So upfront can be a bit more expensive but in the long run it is pretty good
Thank you Everyday Dad today I purchased a Mac mini with accessories. Your videos helped me so much!! Keep doing what you do😃 You are very much appreciated!!!
This was JUST the comparison video I was looking for!! I always appreciate your reviews. I'm coming from a 2015 13" MacBook Pro, so either would be an improvement for me!
Exact same situation
Coming from an old 21.5 imac my new Imac is amazing and makes sense for me. The screen just amazing I love the all in one. The new design is just beautiful to me. It fits into a family setting better and has that retro G3 feel.
Remember the added cost of the Space Gray keyboard/mouse/trackpad over the silver magic accessories not counting the TouchID! So at least $20 more per each for a colored iMac model!
Its an easy choice of if you need that screen or not, I have a 27" 5k iMac but needed a 2nd unit, I was originally going for the mini and an external monitor as was concerned the 24" would be to small, but out of impulse I still went for the 24" and I am enjoying the 24" screen and don't miss the larger screen, obviously this depends on the users needs for how much screen they need. all the best to you.
7:09 woahh was I the only one who didn't think The Everyday Dad was bald??? Lmao
edit: not supposed to be a roast just curious
Ikr I didn’t knew that
Its just been easier shaving my head during the working from home time. I'll go back to my normal hairstyle in the future.
@@TheEverydayDad ok nice
@@TheEverydayDad OMG SAY HI IF YOU ARE REAL
Appreciate your up beat attitude and enjoyment making these videos. It's hard not to have a smile with this awesome technology! Thanks for the video!
i came really close to getting the imac then i found out i could use one of my old displays that can hook up through hdmi. honestly the best decision i made and saved me a ton of money just going with the mac mini 🔥
My 2011 27" iMac display stopped working with the only solution is bringing that behemoth to a service center. The fact that a 10 year old computer still ran great made it easy on my decision on which computer I will be getting. I went to Apples website with the intent to purchase another 27" iMac, until I saw Mac Mini featured on the homepage. After a bit of research, I decided to get the M1, 16GB ram version. I bought a Dell 27" monitor, speakers and USB hub. I already have a perfectly working magic keyboard and mouse. So in total, I saved a whole bunch of $$.
After 2 months of usage (web, streaming, music) I am very happy with the Mac Mini M1.
Part of the value of the mini is that, unless it's your first computer, you are quite likely to already have some of the things already. I already had two 1440p monitors so I just needed to buy one cable and another keyboard. I've plugged my midi controller in, it just worked, I plugged my external DAC/Headphone amp in, and it just worked as did my USB speakers and my USB capture card. One of my monitors had a usb 3 hub built in, so I attached an external SSD. Magnificent system, and totally quiet.
Same. I got it right away knowing that the amount of speed gained would be better than my old setup and cheap enough that when I sell it fo the the M1x or M2, knowing I would loose, what, 2-300 dollars. The amount of time saved on all of the editing is well worth it. Happy to wait.
Thanks for the recommendation about the refurbished store, just picked up a M1 Mac mini with 16gb ram and 1tb storage for the same price as the 512gb model. It’ll be here on Monday.
Hopefully it’ll be a major upgrade from my 2014 iMac 27” with 24gb of ram.
You keep banging out these videos at a crazy pace. Keep it up!!
I did the same thing 👍🏻
Thank you for your informative review and fantastic YT comments.
You got me sold on the mini.
I have the Mini, and hooked it up to a £400 32” 4K monitor, it’s cheaper, and I get a bigger screen which I needed
You can get bigger or higher resolution screen for less than iMac but that’s not really what the imac screen is about.
I think that the Mac Mini is definitely better as you have the choice of the accessories you use. It’s much more functional and optional. The screen is the biggest thing, I could imagine a lot of people don’t like the iMac screens and would prefer something more gamer like in all ways.
Mac mini all day long - can easily pack up and take on the road - great for music production
My biggest gripe with the new iMac is the i/o. The new iMac should have had the same I/O as the Mac mini even if it means making the computer a little bit thicker and heavier. Thin and light does not matter for a desktop since it just sits on a desk.
The Samsung monitor isn't 4K. In your screenshot the resolution listed was 2560x1440.
That said, it should be possible to get a 4k monitor for around that price, and bigger too since 27" is a much more common size for 4k monitors. Quality won't be as good as Apple though.
Either way, nice vid!
Thanks for the breakdown of the Mac mini, I wanted to know more about it.
I feel like I have seen hundreds of your videos, and I've never seen anyone with as strong a hatfishing game as you in the webcam demo 🤣 I've been trying to work out whether my mother would be best served by replacing her 2013 17" iMac with a 24" iMac M1, the Mac Mini or an MacBook Air + screen, and your price comparisons to get them equal really helped me organise my thinking on that a lot clearer
Mac Mini all the way: more connection options, more serviceable.
If you're coming at it from a practicality standpoint, definitely.
Easily solved with an adapter
@@davidhunternyc1 good point
Pretty colors go brruurrrrrrrr.
Good point though and one of the reasons why I can’t decide.
@@davidhunternyc1 for sure, repairs on an m1 machine :D like thats my main concern. i personally dont use products apart from their phones from later than 2012 because those you could upgrade and repair yourselfs. i dont think apples new ecosystem is in any way going to reduce the amount of absolutely needlessly produced ewaste. id rather think if their really energy efficient arm based system is changing the market , we as the consumers are all fucked. as soon as they've got their monopoly m1 macs will be 4 times the price and there will be no alternative. ram upgrades will stay the same since they literally are already just the biggest rip offs imaginable. hell even the 2019 imac was user upgradeable with the ram supporting up to 128 gigs just by opening a door on the back, and even cpu gpu and storage could be exchanged by professionals or by urself if ur tech-savy. if a part broke u could replace it even though apple has gone in the anti consumer no repair direction since steve died, but there always was like a certain line the couldnt cross because it wasnt their hardware. they couldnt physically limit all the users possibilities at the same time. with arm in their back they now chose if your imac or mac mini is going to be obsolete tomorrow while maybe at least ur ipad powered by the same chip stays supported
Interesting to note, both macs are very capable at accepting BT keyboards and mice as well as wired versions. You are under no requirement to buy the the "Magic" keyboard or mouse, (It's still stupid where they put the charging port on said mouse), so even a $15 Logitech keyboard and a $10 BT mouse will do the trick.
Heck, I use a $20 Anker BT keyboard I bought for tablets and that same Logitech mouse for my MacBook when I have it plugged into my 4k monitor and they work flawlessly.
Just love my Mac mini it’s mostly being used for Adobe illustrator and it works as a breach 👍 and that for a 16gb 512 memory, coming from 25 years off pc I just love it and don’t miss windows I am a 🍏 fanboy
I started with the Blue which seems to be the main default iMac system with 256gigs of SSD on a trail bases. I have since last year, The iPhone 13 Pro Max, Apple Watch 7 and the iPad Pro 5th Generation and of course some Air Pod Pro's which are freaking great!
I really fell in love with the iMac and the Mac OS is all new to me, except what I get on my iPad Pro and iPhone 13. I have been a PC user for decades and loving how all these Apple devices just seemingly connect to one another and how you can so easily transfer files and pictures around, (I haven't learned split screen yet, but I will.) My Apple Watch lets unlocks my iMac when I am close to it, which I know you guys know this, but it is so freaking cool to me. Never seen that before.
Since, my move into the iMac 24" I did make the choice of at least getting 512gigs of storage and I have a green iMac on the way. I decided not to get the 16gigs, not because I don't want it, I just don't want to wait almost 3 freaking months to get it. Which is a bit ridiculous to me. Just wish Apple made it where we could just purchase separately from them if need be and get the upgrades we want without waiting 3 months or less to have them install it for us. (Seems were back in the stone age of Apple here, When you want to update your PC you just buy the parts you need and you are golden. With an Apple when you want to upgrade you just take it, throw it away and go buy another one scenario.)
I was interested in the iMac Air, but the small screen is a real downer and with the new OS 16 around the corner I can use my iPad Pro as a reasonable Laptop and do what I need to do within reason on it. I don't have anything against the Mac Mini. The price is nice to say the least and I do have a 55" OLED tv I can run it though, but knowing I have to switch between watching a movie or playing on my PS5 all the time, plus having to either buy cheaper screens or different parts or even pay far more just to get say everything Apple I figured the iMac is a safe bet. Plus, I ran 2 split screens on my iMac had 2 separate webpages where one I can surf the other I was running UA-cam videos where I can have that play on my 55" OLED tv was insanely cool.
I really do like this package, I am loving the new keyboard with the touch id and the new mouse is pretty cool too. Of course, everyone has their own preferences. I have ordered a different iMac from Costco a Green iMac 24" with 512gigs of storage is on the way. I don't feel I need anymore than 512gigs plus I can just port to an external SSD or send to iCloud for storage and backup. Coming from the PC world it is truly sad I have to return this machine because I can't just buy what I need upgrade wise and install it myself. Which leaves returning it as my only option.
Another thing to note: the iMac monitor is not height-adjustable, it only tilts. If you need that vertical adjustability, the Mac Mini coupled with an external monitor works better.
As someone that regularly swaps between Windows and Mac for work the Mac mini is amazing. Being able to run two different computers/OS off of one set of peripherals on my desk is awesome.
Plus being able to upgrade a Mac mini for $500 every couple of years is much more feasible than having to buy a brand new iMac every other product cycle.
How would you go about upgrading m1 devices?
@@PHENIXSTUDIOSOfficial they're saying buying a new Mac Mini every couple of years.
@@GunzyHD gotcha
You should have at least a million subscribers for the quality of content you create. 🙏👍
Thanks for the video! I've been having some serious debates between which of these two I want to purchase. I am however waiting for the M1 chip to be compatible with a handful of music production software.
which softwares are you talking about?
I need the ability to use the iMac as external monitor. Otherwise won’t fit in my home office setup where I have a windows laptop for work.
Quite sure I’ll manage getting a nice setup with a Mac mini too though. Just waiting for the next version.
You’re not boring, you’re amazing
I think the important point about pricing is, if someone doesn't care about display quality being top notch, or having a very nice webcam, you can save money with the Mini.
The issue is, the closest thing to the iMacs display, is the $700 LG Ultrafine, plus to get the same look of webcam, youd probably be looking at an Logi C920 or Brio. Speakers like you said $100. Bringing the total WAY above the iMac.
Port selection is nice for sure, but the iMac is basically the Mac Mini, without the hdmi (dont need it), ethernet (in the brick), or USB 2.0 ports (bummer) on device. In this case, matching the two equally, you'd SAVE ~$350 by going with the iMac
I really think it all comes down to the persons work flow, and how much quality they want out of their peripherals.
I managed to get:
- M1 Mac Mini (16GB / 256GB)
- Apple Creation Suite (FCP, Motion, etc)
- Samsung 32" UHD Monitor
- Magic Keyboard and Trackpad
- Logitech 1080p Webcam
...for £1229 ($1739) in total. And yet the same spec iMac (with a smaller 24" screen) would come to £1649 ($2333) without even considering FCP, Motion etc as separate purchases. If you play it smart and get all the components seperatley like I did, then you can save hundreds and still have a larger screen to use. The M1 Mac Mini is amazing value, and the iMac machines as a let down in comparison in my opinion.
Who would pay for the monitor ?
The M1 Mac Mini is the first Mac I've ever owned and I'm really enjoying it.
Me too
Niceee.
Most people already have a monitor, keyboard, and mouse from older devices. So the M1 Mac Mini makes more sense for me. But if you really want everything brand new and in the same package, the new M1 iMac looks great.
It depends what you need, I feel like the iMac is good for like a college student because everything is included, but at the same time, they would most likely opt for the MBP or the MBA
I'm already sold on the Mac Mini. I just need a buyers guide for an ultrawide monitor compatibility. It's getting confusing.
Depends what you're doing. I bought a cheap 32" 2.7k monitor, works just fine.
You're the first channel I follow discussing Mac products that have mentioned the great noise cancellation on the iMac. I will probably never use the camera because I don't do zoom. I only occasionally do video calls with family and I do have a BlueAir purifier to clean the air of dust so it is good to know if I ever do use it the noise will be reduced.
Why pay twice as much? You pretty much covered it. You have to pay twice as much anyway to get a screen, all the accessories, sound, and they might not be as good, and won't be an all-in-one product with a 4.5k Retina screen in such a thin 23.5-inch package.
I'm with you on this. The iMac looks sweet, but I'm still pleased I got my M1 Mini and added my own accessories to it. It's strange NOT to have buyer's remorse when something like this iMac comes out, but I'm still enjoying the good computing experience that is Apple Silicon.
You said that mac mini's fan never turned on. I think, because it has no screen.
The i mac on the other hand has a 4.5 k display which has heat sink at the back of it.which we see in apples offical launch. I dont think, the fans turned on because of the cpu, but to get rid of the heat from the 4.5k screen.
Yep, that's a very good point.
I’m loving my Mac mini and I have both now. I can see the many benefits on the mini.
The good thing about the Mac mini is you don’t have to upgrade the whole thing when it’s outdated, you just buy a new one and use the monitor you already have. That’s why I decided to go with it.
Imac base model is perfect for my daughters bedroom. School work and casual use. I think that is what the base model is targeted at. All ready in 1 box. No messing about.
I really like your videos! Keep up the great content
You did not add the price of HDMI cable
Dang you got me there.
Was just at Costco. They have the new base Mac Mini for $599 until 6/13/21. Insane cheap for what you get.
No way I'll pay double!
I *_never_* use a display, keyboard, mouse, speakers, microphone or camera!
I stick my Mac mini on my desk, and it is the PERFECT drink coaster!
Thank you for talking about the dual monitor
I believe in the iMac what you're paying for is the display, and a really good value at that.
@Ferry Gunadi you can buy adapters for the screen that will let you use it as a monitor
@@SweatySockGaming link?
@@MaximusTheChosenOne ebay
Perfect video. Was literally thinking on the same (might buy one of the two soon)
I got the Mac mini I love it with a three monitor setup!
What’s the best monitor for it?
You can definitely hear the Mac mini fan. But to do that I have to put my ear right next to it xD I also have it inside a shelf so sound muffles a little bit so I've never heard it without me putting my ear right next to it. It's crazy how quiet and cool it runs. My previous mini PC was a lot louder and my shelf would heat up quite a bit at times.
I have to disagree with your price matching examples because the point of the Mini is to get people into the Apple ecosystem and as someone who tried it out, I already had a monitor,keyboard and mouse along with the speakers so it was a simple $700 buy in, not $1300. Its even cheaper with a refurb model at $589. You can get good quality accessories for a lot less than you quoted and still have an awesome experience with the Mini while saving a lot of money over the iMac.
True
My setup
Monitor:100
Mouse:20
Keyboard:20
Mac mini used:460
Total:600
So yup, it can be affordable
Well, the screen on the iMac is worth more than the difference in price. The only alternative that gives you the same quality, without scaling issues, is the Studio Display. Which cost as much the entire iMac package. The only advantage of the Mac Mini is flexibility. But then you sacrifice display quality and a super clean and gorgeous minimal setup. The iMac is a design statement in itself. Something you would be proud showing off even in your main living room.
Looks great ! But the speced up mini gets my vote ! I have a keyboard and mouse and I don’t want speakers I use earphones and the lack of portability rules the iMac out for me I could grab the mini and transport it much easier. I went for the MacBook in the end for complete freedom but the mini would be my next choice 👌🏻 great video 👍🏻
Or find the new Mac Mini M1 with 8GB at Costco for $599. Get it while you can.
I use headphones so no need for speakers and I don't use a camera so don't need that. Can eliminate those items.
Great video by all means. Thanks for sharing.
I got the base mac mini from Costco for 599. Initially it was 669, but there was a manufacturer discount for an extra 70 off..
Mac mini is more versatile & cost-effective: Perfect to complete my home set up with a wide monitor & pro PC laptop for teleworking.
One major difference tho. If the screen on the imac breaks after 1 year, or 3 if you have the apple care. You’ll have to pay an extra 1200-1500$ to replace the screen.
Thanks for a very informative vid!
Thank you for answering the biggest question I had about the M1 Macs that no review of the many I've watched so far have answered: Will it drive a second display? (5:18). No, is the short answer but the HDMI port on the M1 Mac Mini works around that and, I supposed, a dock on the M1 iMac with HDMI (is there such a thing?) would do the same, but I would have to see the quality displayed on the HDMI monitor before buying an M1 Mac. (Comment extended later) I just checked the second display that I currently have on my 2017 iMac Pro. It's the original Apple Thunderbolt Display. I was surprised to see that its only 2560 x 1440. But, I've been completely happy with its fine detail. Assuming the HDMI on the Mini delivers UHD, the output should look better than what I have, but that would also depend on the quality of the HDMI monitor you have I would think.
I have an Anker usb-c dongle with an HDMI port (among others). I've used it to connect my iPad to my TV so I'm sure you could do the same with the iMac.
I have two choices for studio:
- Imac 5k 2017 specs I5 3.4/24Bb/1Tb = $1200
- Mac Mini 2018 specs i5 3.0/16Gb/256Gb SSD ($710) + Monitor 4k 28" ($340) + Mouse, keyboard ($50) + Speaker ($200)
So what should i go?
the Samsung monitor you showed wasn't a 4k monitor, it was a QHD one...6:24
Current 2013 iMac: Do I replace it with an iMac or Mac-Mini? ..... my biggest thought is I like the Sockets on my 2013 iMac (Speakers, Keyboard, back-up hard-drive, printer and still have sockets to spare)
I'm in the same boat. It really comes down to the screen, if you want something of the same quality as the iMac then you're going to be spending about the same. You can always get a hub for the iMac which will give you even more ports than the 2013 has
@@MyLastSong719 Thanks. I’m 5 decades old and all this wireless stuff just confuses me LOL
@@jnimitzch4738 Yeah no problem. If you're still undecided, depending on what you do on your computer, you may not even need the display that the iMac offers. You can get a decent 4K screen for around $250 and spend less than the iMac and still have a great computer. Unless you're editing photos or video, the iMac screen is probably overkill. The only thing you'd really be losing in terms of display would be True Tone which is awesome but not enough to justify the cost. You can always get a good set of speakers, so the iMacs aren't really needed. And with the Mini you can always upgrade the display later unlike with the iMac, so in 5-6 years you could get a Micro-LED monitor which would be ten times better than the iMac's display today. I am leaning towards the Mini, especially when you look at the refurbished prices.
@@MyLastSong719 You have explained it well...... I like the all-in-one simplicity of the iMac, but the way you have said it, the Mini makes more sense..... I laugh at myself as in 1990 I built my first PC with parts and a soldering with and now my brain is failing LOL
@@jnimitzch4738 Yeah the simplicity is really nice. If you have the extra cash I say, go for the iMac. You won't regret it and it'll last for the next decade at least, so it'll be worth the expense. If you have any questions, I am happy to answer them!
Congrats from your wife finishing her Masters degree 👍🏼
Thanks! She hasn't finished it yet but she's about half way done.
The difference is you can get what you need with the mini in terms of peripherals. I dont need to spend 200+ just on kb+mouse. I can get some top notch productivity logitech peripherals (MX master + MX keys) and save at least 50
Also the monitor, many people already have them and/or they dont need to get the top notch monitor
I think its good that apple is giving you this choice of different options. Its still a bit too expensive in terms of upgrades and stuff but they are on the right track
Thanks for the great video!
You have a great voice, you could definitely do radio work.:) Vid is also great, but if you changed those t-shirt, hat and hoodies to nice gentleman's outfit you'd be fierce:D Consider! All the best!
The M1 iMac would have need extra adapters to have the same function
QUESTION: Did I miss it? CAN I use my regular PC monitor with the M1Mac as a secondary screen?
Getting a comparable display as the M1 iMac is easily $1300 on its own. Add that the $700 for the computer itself, $100 for the keyboard, and $80 for the mouse, and it's the Mac Mini that starts getting close to twice as expensive as the iMac, not the other way around.
Not to mention that it also has built-in speakers (better than the small one in Mac Mini), a microphone, and camera if you consider the overall cost
it's very shiny/reflective though - personally hate glossy screen (and prefer ultrawide even if that means lower res)
I find that point a bit ironic since Apple clearly is marketing this for the "average" consumer but with pro features like P3 color accuracy that most wont know about. I have the mini with the cheapest 4k monitor 28" I could find at the time from BB (@$320) and don't use it for editing so for me it makes no difference that extra .5k or P3 color accuracy and I doubt it would for an average user, they would be better of with a mini over the imac in that sense. The monitor I have (Samsung UR55) still packs in useful features like an IPS panel(like the iMac) for different viewing angles and even has HDR support witch the iMac lacks and the screen is matte ( again something that isn't even an option on imac) as well the monitor is nearly bezel-less on three sides, with a miniscule chin.
Taking the screen aside and just focusing on raw features or ports, its clear the mac mini is just a better value, you could take the money saved and get a hub underneath for front facing ports, like microSD cardslot and a internal housing for SSD for expandable storage down the line that's more affordable then Apple's own Flash SSD. Not to mention the mini still packs in ethernet at no extra charge no matter what model you get.
The display sucks. It is too tiny (it is 23,5 inch, way smaller than previous 24 inch iMacs) and the insane resolution is a downside, not a plus. It kills the GPU without offering much extra work space (it is basically a 1260x2240 display). Give me a matte 2560x1440 27 inch any time. Or 4K at 32 inch.
This "Samsung 4k" monitor you suggested is not 4k but 2.5k (1440p) so it is way way worse than 4.5k LCD in iMac.
You are not boring. Were just the same type of people who likes simple colors 😉
You may have just solved my decision between these two, can you do (if you haven’t) new MB pro vs new iMac.
Thanks for the great review. Question - do you use Background Rendering in Final Cut or do you Render at the end of your editing? Thanks!
I respect the comparison, but you downplayed iMac’s screen with that Mac mini equivalent
There’s no way it was even nearly as color accurate, was it even 4.5k?
Good question reason is, you can;t find a decent monitor for 600eur let alone one that matches the imac;s. Decent; retina, p3 / adobe pro rbg, thin, beautiful, good mics in it, webcam in it and decent speakers. Hmu when that exists.
The similar iMac screen is the LG one selling in Apple store. So just the screen alone is worth it to me.
When you get your silver iMac please show us a side by side vie of that one with the Orange one on loan from Apple. I will admit that I was also leaning toward the Silver version as I thought the white bezels would be less distracting than on a colored one. After seeing your Orange iMac, I liking it, but would like to see how it looks directly compared to the Silver one.
What microphone do you use? Looks and sounds great!
Looks like the Shure SM7B
I’ve really been trying to like the new iMac but just can’t get the white bezels to “disappear” into the background…
I honestly love white bezels and im hopping the iPhone 13 will have them
Well, you just informed my purchase. Thanks a lot
(I’ll take purple)
By the time you've added a keyboard and mouse, and a nice display, unless you go with cheap alternatives for all of them, the difference is nowhere near as big.
Such a helpful video. Thank you. I'm looking to replace my 10yr old iMac for my home and wondered about the mac mini; I think I'll stick with the iMac.
For a 4k 24" monitor to go with a m1 MacBook air what would you recommend?
This was a great video that helped me to make a decision. I have an amazing new monitor and speakers already, so I will just buy the mini. My current iMac is old (2017 I believe) and so is my MacBook (2017), so I definitely need something new. But I thunk a mini would make more sense.
Thanks for a great video and helping me to make up my mind.
I wouldn’t say that 2017 is old 😄my iMac was from 2011 and honestly it still worked alright.
@@eelay86 well, I guess because in terms of tech my systems are old. Especially since they come out with so many other systems since then. However, they're still in great shape and for that I am thankful!!!!
One question: we read a lot - millions - reviews about difficult to find a proper display working perfectly with the best resolution possible for the Mini . The Imac surpass this one problem alone ?
i bought a LG 4K for 199 dollars
Are there monitors available that are as good as the Imac screen? I have an old 27-in iMac and I've never run into a monitor that is it's equal. I'm not a fanboy I'm genuinely curious whether there is a monitor that can compete?
The LG thunderbolt/USBc are close and expensive, I believe Apple sources their monitors from them to Apple specs.
Mac Mini & iMAC same price in UK
£1299, 16gb ram, 1tb
£200, mouse and keyboard
£600, monitor LG ultrafine
Total £2099
IMAC - £2099, 16gb ram, 1tb
This. When you factor in the keyboard, mouse and screen, the price comes out about the same. Gets even closer if you need speakers ands webcam as well
I love everything about my dying 2015 iMac, but it's time to replace it. I don't like the white bezel on the new iMac or that they put the Apple logo on the back (that faces the wall on most desktops), and not on the front. It looks very generic sitting on a desk. My old iMac looks so sharp just sitting there with it's black bezel and black etched Apple logo on the front. I am leaning toward the Mac mini, but don't know what monitor to buy- 24" fits my space better than a 27". Any suggestions on what 24" monitor to buy would be appreciated.
If you don’t have a monitor or speakers or webcam or keyboard or mouse, the iMac is amazing. If you have all of that stuff, get the Mini.
We need that iPad Pro M1 review. :) :)
M1 iPad is pointless because the hardware out performs the software
Not sure any software really pushes what an M1 iPad pro will be able to do - and it's still just iPadOS
@@ArtWithTye
That's been the case with every iPad Pro in the last few years tho??
It doesn't make it "pointless", people can still get use of it. Salty much?
no we don't
@@2dimples_dad255 we got it 😬
Could you please make a video of connecting two external monitors with this iMac? That is my dream setup but I'm not sure if using a dock would affect the performance. Please make it as soon as possible.