Hi. just wanted to add my 2 cents on the "washer mod". If I'm not mistaken, the intent of the washers was to add extra spring force since the heatsink is laying lower. However, putting the washers at the screw holes to increase spring pressure is incorrect, it will actually reduce the spring pressure. Let me explain. While there may be a small spring around the screw itself, the vast majority of the spring tension comes from the bend of each of the X bracket's "arms". Putting a washer around the screw reduces the travel distance of each of the arms, reducing the spring pressure. What you want to do is lift up the center square of the X bracket so each of the arms has a further distance to move. Put the washers on each edge or corner of the square part to raise up the bracket 0.5mm away from the PCB and you will get the desired effect of increased mounting pressure. If there was no X bracket and instead only 4 spring screws, then the washer mod would go on the screws instead.
Thanks for repairing it, glad you finally got an AMD card on here, speedy service of 2.5wks can't complain. Yesterday, I MPT tweaked it to 24k on furmark, that's 4070ti territory hahah. Gonna get next gen 8000 or after, I'm good for a while lol. If I short a MOSFET at 360w, going back to you 😂 hahah. Great to see how you repaired it and wish you the best. Awesomely happy 😊
@@Homelander-ftw haha I meant he hasn't had a amd gpu on his channel but he told me he has repaired plenty behind the scenes that was good to hear lol 😂
pcb cracks are usually caused by bad handling, not low quality of the product, also when observing such cracking at the pcb, it often brings memory module and pcb damage underneath and on modules itself, krisfix also did a similar video and had to replace the chips because they had pulled pads underneath...
The whole design is bad... As a manufacturer/engineer if you believe that little indent out of the PCB will HOLD your GPU (it's one of the 3 points of securing the GPU to the mobo/case), you need to either redesign it or enforce that particular area of the PCB (and not put traces next to it). But ofc, manufacturers don't care. They care to sell more not for the buyer to keep their products as much as possible :(
@@Helifax19 that's all caused by the laziness of the manufacturers to redesign or modify the standard. We are still using a mounting solution from the jurassic, when MB were placed horizontal and gravity worked in your favor. Then the whole thing was flipped sideways and initially wasn't a problem until GPUs weight a 1-200gr. But now it would really be time to find a new industry standard.
I like the look of the 6000 series reference cards, but I wouldn't expect the best performing cooler design. My Sapphire RX 6800 runs very cool with an undervolt! (and still gets basically full performance)
My reference 6950 XT "Made by AMD", doesn't run very cool, it seems that the heatsink and the vapor chamber gets overwhelmed, like reported everywhere when the reference 7900 series launched. The core may get to a maximum of 70°C, but the hotspot temperature climbs steadily, to stabilize around 110°C and from there it downclocks to 2200MHz to avoid even more overheating . Using factory settings and running it and my 3000 rpm 140mm case fans at 100% for testing only, because it is to noisy and doesn't help to lower the temps at all. To keep it under 100°C on the hotspot, I have to undervolt the core by 50mV and lower the power limit to -5 (~240 W) 🤨According to AMD this is absolutely normal behavior and no reason for RMA...
My AMD 6800 is holding up well and does cool decently. doesn't get past about 65ish degrees running at stock clocks and voltages. I don't know how much I'd trust the cooler with a card that draws more power than the 6800 though
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights No, PCBs change a lot, beyond the color, by number of layers, height of the layers, consistency of the same material, and arrangement of the relative copper tracks. The case of Gigabyte has opened a nice Pandora's box in this regard ... lol ua-cam.com/video/wb5tlHJHVBs/v-deo.html
Agree with your comment about the 1080ti. I almost regret selling mine for $300(CAD). That thing was rock solid. Everything. Just. Worked. Using a 4090 is nothing like it. Especially with a Gigabyte card. Have to worry about cracked PCB, connector plugged in properly, display issues with certain monitors/multi monitor setups...
This guy is really a beast. I hope there will be a million of you in every city in the world. This world needs an expert GPU repair tech like you sir. ❤️
just came across this chanel. i gotta say the expertise on display here are second to none and a of a dieing breed. i have come across a lot of dead gpus and have looked everywhere for a shop that will repair them but to no avail. i got turned away by every repair shop i could find in my city. everyone just seems to want to repair phones screens and replace tablet batteries. i live in a fairly large city in europe and i doubt there are any in my country that service consumer products like gpus. i think its because demand is just too low. most people would just rather bin their dead gpu and buy a new one rather than spend a little extra giving it a new life. its a real shame. im glad people like you exist who breath new life into these products. also your video was really well made and even made me laugh. cool chanel
I was able to resolve the temperature difference on my 6800 xt using liquid metal. Now the temperature in the hotspot fluctuates between +5 and +10 degrees. Interestingly, after the application, the temperature of the edges rose a little, even the hotspot getting a little lower. I believe that this silicon has a problem in spreading the temperature evenly.
You do an excellent job at explaining what you do in an entertaining and interesting kind of way!. I have one question. What kind of thermal pad sheet is that? (the blue one) I've been looking for thermal pad sheets but have not found many good ones. The ones I have found so far are just small packages which are crazy expensive and only last for one or two cards.
Seeing those temps was unpleasant... I purchased a used 3090 a couple of months ago which also had a 20 degree C temperature delta when under load. After replacing the paste, it dropped to max 13 degree delta under load, so I'm happy with that. I'll probably need to replace the pads at some point too, but I'm not looking forward to that (all the width differences look like a minefield)
These are getting better and better in memes. But you always named the spots you measured voltage at, which I appreciated and which this video is missing. "Here, here, here, here and here" makes me feel like I understand too much. I need to be confounded enough to learn something!
XFX 6900xt owner here. My temp difference is usually 3-5 degrees. Case: Thermaltake Core P1. GPU vertically mounted. Re-pasted with TG4. Min 2391Mhz Max 2517Mhz @1105mv. Clocks in at 2477 in game. Temps top out at about 65-70c. Bought the card on amazon pre-owned. "Was it used for mining?" For $500(last year) of course it was.. but still plays fine 4k@120fps.
lol I have the 6800xt founders so basically the same crap, had to undervolt it to 1V and limit it to 2400mhz with an aggressive fan curve so it stays under 80C on the hot spot, at least maxed out the memory slider no problem. How did it crack? Just being installed because of the weight and bad design or did something unusual happen? I have no sag bracket, it looks straight with no sag but I've been considering adding 1 for good measure. Love the vids, very professional work, nice to see you growing so fast, you deserve it.
temperature on the gun its self does not reflect the temperature of the surface at which you blow. its only temperature INSIDE the air gun. Once outside, depending on how far the object is and how fast the air blows, temperature is much lower. So if i say: 400C, you might say: OMG this is crazy ! but in reality its around 250-300 on the surface.
My Vega 64 which i have DYI watered cooled has the around the same temperature difference for the GPU Temp and the GPU Hostpot Temp and from what i've seen this is the case for most Radeon cards, that's why i have the radiator's fans hit 100% when the Hotspot hits 70C, using Fan Control App and GPU Hotspot as source for the fan curve.
@@northwestrepair The memory usually stays around 30C away from the Hotspot, and why the GPU Temp and GPU Hostspot Temp consistently have around 20 in AMD cards who DON'T have memory packaged as near as Vegas do, like anything newer, the same temp difference still applies, explain that.
omfg this video is WILD super underrated so much information in this one single video I did not know so many things about this degradable and eatable pcb and stuff.
@northwestrepair, I just discovered this chanel. Great videos! You often mention you only like evga and I agree, but we are now left without them. Based on your experience and expertise, what would you say about AsRock? Many are prising their built quality, especially 6900 XT OC Formula. Did you have one on your bench?
That's really weird. I've owned FIFTEEN Radeons in a row, including an ATi RX 6800 XT OG Reference model similar to the 6900 XT that you have there and it has been rock-solid (and I even used it for mining for 6 months).
Awesome fix. Love the AMD cards but would love to see them lower the core temps. I reverted to water cooling to drop temps to a decent standard. Should not need to but happy with the result
Unrelated to the "girl", but this is a real environmentalist. How much money you have saved people, energy for the production of something new and nature itself. A masterpiece.
Nice videos man! You'd freak out with the temps I'm getting from a "Chinese RISC" RX 6600XT... 114C on hotspot. Usually hotspot is between 18-22C higher than the card's temp
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great video as always! man I hate the 5000 and 6000 series, I have an asrock 6900xt from a customer that had cold solder joints on the memory on every single memory module close to the pciexpress, such heavy cards .-. just a question tho, will you share your amd 5000-6000 tserver with us on the google drive link in the description? I have plenty of amd test softwares but none of them work with 5000 and 6000, even tho they said it should work, I'll try to find the gigabyte test in the mean time, thanks for the video!
It would be nice if you could made a video were you explaining in more detail how you know where to solder and where to put a wire to connect the broken layers. A step by step what you are doing ...
It seems most AMD cards from this gen have difference between core and hotspot in 15-20°C range and almost nothing can be done, except some very expensive mods. 6600XT has VRAM too close to the core, which disallows use of almost any aftermarket cooling (Prolimatech MK-26 might fit, but the mounting bracket is in the way, if i´d wanted to put passive heatsinks on VRAM; only other option being NZXT G12). Stock thermal pads are very stiff. When i first opened the card, i ruptured the VRM pad. Ended up replacing all of them with Thermal Grizzly Minus pads (only not much expensive pads with various sizes available in my area). I also have a question: Is it better to use backplate with pads or remove the backplate altogether? The 6600XT i have (Asus Dual) is fairly short (244mm), so even without the backplate, it won´t bend much (and if i´d see any bending, i´d use metal support i have from the time, when i was using 30cm Strix 1070. PS.: It´s totally possible this GPU was made by GIGABYTE. AMD does not make the reference design directly, but has AIB partners make them. So even AMD design can be made by Gigabyte, Sapphire, Powercolor, etc. I also think, that the difference between "core" and "hot spot" is actually about "core" sensor being in the socket, while "hot spot" is in the actual core. AMD driver fan curve is set around hotspot temperature and not core, which seems shady (if it were so insignificant, why make the fan curve around it?).
My RX 6700 at stock voltage and clocks (50mhz OC by Sapphire Pulse) has a delta of 25 to 26 degrees C. I'm such a "lucky" person. By undervolting to1.09 volts, delta dropped to 15 to 16 degrees C.
AMD reference cards are not good imho. If someone wants to buy a Radeon GPU he should opt for Sapphire. I’ve had dozens of them and they have never failed me. Sapphire is like EVGA who are the best for Nvidia cards. The people of this time are lucky because we have a technician like you. Keep up the good good work.
Just a friendly note with good intentions. Some times in your videos you fly past some important moments of the repair, which are either too interesting to not show in depth footage or in this case show where and what the problem is. I had to rewind quite a few times to find out what trace exactly broke and needed to be repaired. All the ground (past tense of grind) copper parts appeared to cover a big surface of the board beyond the cracked part and be continuous despite the crack. Except 2 thin traces that briefly and barely appeared at 2:42. You could for example pause for a moment and show the broken trace that needs to be repaired. The reflection makes things even worse for the viewer. Maybe I completely misunderstood what's happening here. Anyway. Thank you for your videos. Another amazing repair in this one. P.S.1 I'm not a professional repair technician and thus I enjoy all the tinkering, soldering, desoldering, bridging, wicking, blasting with UV, reballing, cleaning, repading, criticizing, making humor, and fixing parts of the video besides the the diagnosing part. I would get it if you want to appeal more to technicians than amateurs. P.S.2 I own an RX 6700 (Sapphire Pulse) and the gap between edge and hotspot temperature is 25 degrees C. 20 degrees C ambient temp, 72 degrees edge, 97~98 degrees hotspot. First day I got the card and started testing, I noticed it and right away I lost my mind. I didn't know before watching your videos that this delta is an important thing. Then again everyone is suggesting that RDNA2 cards MUST be undervolted as if they are all operating at a wrong voltage from factory. Undervolted from 1.2 volts to 1.09 and dropped the delta from 25~26 degrees to 15~16 degrees and under the same ambient temp and load, edge dropped from 72 to 62 degrees C.
So, Radeon fabricates their own bare boards, or do they contract it out to a board fabricator? The fab house logo is on the board somewhere, usually near the UL '94V-0' designator (not always). It looks like either the board surface, or, soldermask ink was contaminated in some way during application. Was the entire board like that or just the one spot? If just the one spot, then it was probably some contamination on the board surface. I really like your videos... very interesting.
I still have a working radeon 6790. Funny how it had 256bit memory bus back in the day, but still many of today even middle-range cards has only 128bit
Superb video, I was just wondering would it be a good idea just to trim/cut out whole clip and use GPU without it? I think der8auer did something similar on CNC machine with flooded GPU, sadly it didn't help.
Interesting commentary style, I like it. Although I don't quite understand the intended audience. there are some things you did / used without explaining, perhaps you already explained the repair tools in a previous video. Or was that trade secrets??
You'd think that after 15 years of PCIe cards being designed, they would stop putting traces in the vulnerable slot hook. It's almost as if they are doing it intentionally.
My open box MSI reference Radeon VII $700 from FRYs Electronics (no longer in business) was way too hot and WAY TOO LOUD in 2017. Had to learn how to water cool. Direct from EKWB spent $700+ for a dual radiator + cpu & gpu blocks & pump. Even had a call from my credit union asking if and why I was making a purchase from EKWB native country of Slovenia. After 6 months of system lockups with buzzing, then restarting when launching some games, and League of legends causing restarts 100% of the time after champ selection, rage ripped it out. Drove to Best Buy and had to spend $800 for an EVGA 2080Super XC Ultra which fixed all the issues and wasn't overly hot nor was it overly loud. Fast forward to 2022. AMD offered a 6950XT & 5800X3d combo for about $1000. The 6950XT was hitting 117C on the hotspot! Even under volting and reducing power it still was too hot for my comfort. Had to once again order water cooling parts this time of about $500 due to lucky timing on sales @ EKWB. Temps are now in the 70s to 90s on the hotspot depending on game and whether I use resolution scaling. When I disassembled the 6950XT the cooling graphite pad on the core was not centered and part of the core was uncovered! When I installed the water block I used Noctua NH-T2 thermal paste. It has been cool and quiet ever since. Using Noctua redux 120mm 1700rpm fans. Due to how annoying the AMD graphics suite is and how laggy/buggy it is, I installed just the driver. I use MSI Afterburner to manage the card.
In the past 6 years i bought 2 new gpus, both times I lost the rma lottery and got a faulty unit :( I was so happy to make the swap to amd and 2 days later i had to send it back because even after spending 2 days in forums and trying everything my limited knowledge allowed me to i just couldn't get it to show me a signal. On all 4 ports, on different monitors and even on a second system. Now I gotta wait who knows how long again :(
@@northwestrepair They did include a decent gpu support bracket this gen so it should be fine right ? At least for the 4090, but why their rate of cracking pcb is so high ?
I always wonder at the end of the videos how much the repair cost would be for certain things. If willing to say, how much did this cost the customer to fix? I know im one that is horrible with something that breaks and I cant clearly see what's wrong, Ill just say F it time for something new after a short time trying to fix it. I think a lot of people, 1. would love to know how much it would cost to fix their card if something goes wrong. 2. help people realize it might be cheaper to fix then try and just get a new card or having to try and rma something that might be a hassle and not covered/argued about for to long. I understand if its something you rather not talk about in videos, but also it might get you more customers. Either way thanks for another great video.
People, if you have a huge graphics card, it's worth it just to buy an anti-sag brace. I know the braces should be included with these huge cards, but they're not, but it's cheap and could save you a lot of heartache and money.
Great video as always , Can you direct me to where i can find that mem utility , recently i was repairing 6700xt , that had memory issue , and ended up replacing all memory chips , due to lac of diagnostic program . I have the same preheat-er 8280 , but to warm the board to 150 i must set it to 250 , did You modify it ?
Actually i got the same grinding pen and the remaining LEDs are indicating the pressure and how hard it IS for the pen to pen. I often remove glue residue with it from liguid glue.
my 5700xt also has a 20c delta but it is manageable with some undervolting and framerate cap. it does spike to 90c during some gaming scenes but not through all the game.
Your work inspires me even more to study the structures of these GPUs, mainly AMD, although the drivers are still bad, but they are great graphics cards, thanks for every detail in the videos, this demonstrates how efficient and precise you are in what you can see. can be done for even more these gpu's live longer.. Looking forward to your next video!
The lack of drivers makes them just pretty paperweights. I lost count, how many times i had to tweak or fiddle with something on the whole AMD platform (motherboards included). Most stable GPU driver for me so far was/is 22.11.2. When i tried the newest (23.2.2 at the time), my PC screens started randomly flickering and this always led to automatic restart. As i read the notes for 23.3.1, it seems entire 6000 series has been abandoned in favor of 7000, as it started introducing new issues for 6000 series cards. I totally dislike their "fine wine" approach. They do it only because they found out, they CAN and fans & followers will still defend them (poor, little, crying AMD victim - victimization is just a manipulation).
@@Morpheus-pt3wq so i bought the 6600 recently (my first amd gpu ever) and i didn't really have any BIG problems, don't get me wrong their drivers are not perfect and i had to do some googling and changings some settings but overall it has been decent experience.
@@autumn42762 I have many AMD gpus and Nvidia's too. Drivers have glitches in both and for anold gpu, AMD has AMERNIMEZ DRIVER. Rx 6500 xt is working great with no issues for me so far.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I agree with your view bro, they are cards very capable of making a good experience, but drivers are like fruits on a tree, you just pick the best drivers for each day, W11, W10 and drivers, each card responds in a different way , I have an old RX580 that the best driver was v22.10.3 for both versions of the 500 and 400 series that still have people around the world using it. back...
I was lucky enough to pickup the ASUS liquid cooled version cheaper than the air blower cards and the delta is 5-10c with max temp under 60c, so should be good for many years.
A proud 6900XT reference design owner and my card is kicking almost 2 years without any problem, vertically mounted thank God. Still, this video is hilarious and informative, if I ever run out of food I know what to eat 🤣🤣🤣
Very interesting. I did the same thing with the plastic washers on my 6800xt after i changed the thermal pads and graphite better temps but still card gets hot. What do you recommend as an upgrade video card?
Undervolt and increase power draw limit as much as it goes. If you are still not satisfied, drop clock speed to the point where it does not make any significant (to your gameplay) performance drop.
This guy fixed my 2080ti he’s a beast
Was that the one poorly packaged banging around the parcel? :D
@@thinktribal 😂
Did the card arrive back smashed to pieces?
This guy is super talented and patient. Sometimes I wish I had an expensive graphics card that broke just so I could send it to him...
I'll send in a mauled 3060 and see what he does with it
@@duenorth9
Which brand so we can u remember ur name :)
I agree, he seems to know alot about how a PCB is made and what causes alot of problems, it's great that he is passing this knowledge on to us
Winding this week my 4090 MSI Suprim Liquid X , for a cracked PCB, hopefully he can get it done. 🙏🏼
Thats right thing to do
Great video, love all the content and humour.
Much appreciated!
Hi. just wanted to add my 2 cents on the "washer mod". If I'm not mistaken, the intent of the washers was to add extra spring force since the heatsink is laying lower. However, putting the washers at the screw holes to increase spring pressure is incorrect, it will actually reduce the spring pressure. Let me explain.
While there may be a small spring around the screw itself, the vast majority of the spring tension comes from the bend of each of the X bracket's "arms". Putting a washer around the screw reduces the travel distance of each of the arms, reducing the spring pressure. What you want to do is lift up the center square of the X bracket so each of the arms has a further distance to move. Put the washers on each edge or corner of the square part to raise up the bracket 0.5mm away from the PCB and you will get the desired effect of increased mounting pressure.
If there was no X bracket and instead only 4 spring screws, then the washer mod would go on the screws instead.
That's an excellent point and I believe you are absolutely correct. Good catch.
Thanks for repairing it, glad you finally got an AMD card on here, speedy service of 2.5wks can't complain. Yesterday, I MPT tweaked it to 24k on furmark, that's 4070ti territory hahah. Gonna get next gen 8000 or after, I'm good for a while lol. If I short a MOSFET at 360w, going back to you 😂 hahah. Great to see how you repaired it and wish you the best. Awesomely happy 😊
"Finally" and "AMD" is not something that we can find in the same sentence too often
@@Homelander-ftw haha I meant he hasn't had a amd gpu on his channel but he told me he has repaired plenty behind the scenes that was good to hear lol 😂
@@Zensaitv He did repair a RX 580 or two in his older videos
@@The_Man_In_Red meant new gen but guess I didn't see it lol. Idk why I thought he only did Nvidia as that's all I saw so idk 😐
Congratulations, you own a garbage gpu!
Man, you are a heart surgeon for GPUs. Always a pleasure to see your work!
Well, he works at a Hospital, so might just be :)
Your production quality is off the charts.
Also, not annoying delivery. Great content as always.
pcb cracks are usually caused by bad handling, not low quality of the product, also when observing such cracking at the pcb, it often brings memory module and pcb damage underneath and on modules itself, krisfix also did a similar video and had to replace the chips because they had pulled pads underneath...
The 2080Ti is particularly prone to this type of damage, due to the narrow proximity between the PCIe slot and the lower row of memory chips.
@@Ivan-pr7ku yeah, and not just the 2080 ti :D
The whole design is bad... As a manufacturer/engineer if you believe that little indent out of the PCB will HOLD your GPU (it's one of the 3 points of securing the GPU to the mobo/case), you need to either redesign it or enforce that particular area of the PCB (and not put traces next to it). But ofc, manufacturers don't care. They care to sell more not for the buyer to keep their products as much as possible :(
@@Helifax19 that's all caused by the laziness of the manufacturers to redesign or modify the standard. We are still using a mounting solution from the jurassic, when MB were placed horizontal and gravity worked in your favor. Then the whole thing was flipped sideways and initially wasn't a problem until GPUs weight a 1-200gr. But now it would really be time to find a new industry standard.
@@Helifax19 GPU is a chip. You are talking about a graphics card.
The master does it again..... ..perfectly!
I tried
i hope your business grows!
Thanks
I like the look of the 6000 series reference cards, but I wouldn't expect the best performing cooler design. My Sapphire RX 6800 runs very cool with an undervolt! (and still gets basically full performance)
My reference 6950 XT "Made by AMD", doesn't run very cool, it seems that the heatsink and the vapor chamber gets overwhelmed, like reported everywhere when the reference 7900 series launched.
The core may get to a maximum of 70°C, but the hotspot temperature climbs steadily, to stabilize around 110°C and from there it downclocks to 2200MHz to avoid even more overheating . Using factory settings and running it and my 3000 rpm 140mm case fans at 100% for testing only, because it is to noisy and doesn't help to lower the temps at all.
To keep it under 100°C on the hotspot, I have to undervolt the core by 50mV and lower the power limit to -5 (~240 W) 🤨According to AMD this is absolutely normal behavior and no reason for RMA...
@@Aliens308 damn..
My AMD 6800 is holding up well and does cool decently. doesn't get past about 65ish degrees running at stock clocks and voltages. I don't know how much I'd trust the cooler with a card that draws more power than the 6800 though
@@Aliens308 Repaste it with some thermalright TFX, but yes, 6950xt cards run to 110c on the hotspot and it is normal.
Fantastic Work! I was not at all aware of how much a pcb could suck, on a video card of this range! I will definitely look into this topic!
I thought all pcbs were the same haha like more or less standardized aside from color and layers... the more ya know
@@FacialVomitTurtleFights No, PCBs change a lot, beyond the color, by number of layers, height of the layers, consistency of the same material, and arrangement of the relative copper tracks. The case of Gigabyte has opened a nice Pandora's box in this regard ... lol ua-cam.com/video/wb5tlHJHVBs/v-deo.html
Agree with your comment about the 1080ti. I almost regret selling mine for $300(CAD). That thing was rock solid. Everything. Just. Worked. Using a 4090 is nothing like it. Especially with a Gigabyte card. Have to worry about cracked PCB, connector plugged in properly, display issues with certain monitors/multi monitor setups...
Your videos were already great and now you stepped up even more by turning them into complete guides, much respect!
Awesome repair it takes so much patience and nerves of steel!!!
This guy is really a beast. I hope there will be a million of you in every city in the world. This world needs an expert GPU repair tech like you sir. ❤️
just came across this chanel. i gotta say the expertise on display here are second to none and a of a dieing breed. i have come across a lot of dead gpus and have looked everywhere for a shop that will repair them but to no avail. i got turned away by every repair shop i could find in my city. everyone just seems to want to repair phones screens and replace tablet batteries. i live in a fairly large city in europe and i doubt there are any in my country that service consumer products like gpus. i think its because demand is just too low. most people would just rather bin their dead gpu and buy a new one rather than spend a little extra giving it a new life. its a real shame. im glad people like you exist who breath new life into these products. also your video was really well made and even made me laugh. cool chanel
I hate phone repairs.
Thanks for love
this man is the most entertaining tech repair man on the internet, very inspiring 🎉
Love your commentary and I learn a little bit about graphics cards along the way.
I was able to resolve the temperature difference on my 6800 xt using liquid metal. Now the temperature in the hotspot fluctuates between +5 and +10 degrees. Interestingly, after the application, the temperature of the edges rose a little, even the hotspot getting a little lower. I believe that this silicon has a problem in spreading the temperature evenly.
You do an excellent job at explaining what you do in an entertaining and interesting kind of way!. I have one question. What kind of thermal pad sheet is that? (the blue one) I've been looking for thermal pad sheets but have not found many good ones. The ones I have found so far are just small packages which are crazy expensive and only last for one or two cards.
Seeing those temps was unpleasant... I purchased a used 3090 a couple of months ago which also had a 20 degree C temperature delta when under load. After replacing the paste, it dropped to max 13 degree delta under load, so I'm happy with that. I'll probably need to replace the pads at some point too, but I'm not looking forward to that (all the width differences look like a minefield)
as always the best there is in gpu repair and diagnosis. i switched to your channel when I got tired of the phrase "the short is gone".
These are getting better and better in memes.
But you always named the spots you measured voltage at, which I appreciated and which this video is missing. "Here, here, here, here and here" makes me feel like I understand too much. I need to be confounded enough to learn something!
Great video, educational. Good sense of humor.
XFX 6900xt owner here. My temp difference is usually 3-5 degrees. Case: Thermaltake Core P1. GPU vertically mounted. Re-pasted with TG4. Min 2391Mhz Max 2517Mhz @1105mv. Clocks in at 2477 in game. Temps top out at about 65-70c. Bought the card on amazon pre-owned. "Was it used for mining?" For $500(last year) of course it was.. but still plays fine 4k@120fps.
lol I have the 6800xt founders so basically the same crap, had to undervolt it to 1V and limit it to 2400mhz with an aggressive fan curve so it stays under 80C on the hot spot, at least maxed out the memory slider no problem.
How did it crack? Just being installed because of the weight and bad design or did something unusual happen? I have no sag bracket, it looks straight with no sag but I've been considering adding 1 for good measure.
Love the vids, very professional work, nice to see you growing so fast, you deserve it.
Mishandling and weight cracks pcb.
@@northwestrepair thanks for the answer. Cleaned and added a bracket yesterday just to be safe.
I wrote on a KrisFix video that I was developping an addiction to ""GPU repair videos".
Now I just found a secondary pusher. I think it's the flux.
Haha 😆
Excellent instructive video, how much temp do you use on your air gun to avoid making them look brownish?
temperature on the gun its self does not reflect the temperature of the surface at which you blow.
its only temperature INSIDE the air gun.
Once outside, depending on how far the object is and how fast the air blows, temperature is much lower.
So if i say: 400C, you might say: OMG this is crazy ! but in reality its around 250-300 on the surface.
@@northwestrepair Thank you!
Before seeing your channel I had no idea that cracked pcb's were even repairable. I threw away so many repairable things.
So sad
My Vega 64 which i have DYI watered cooled has the around the same temperature difference for the GPU Temp and the GPU Hostpot Temp and from what i've seen this is the case for most Radeon cards, that's why i have the radiator's fans hit 100% when the Hotspot hits 70C, using Fan Control App and GPU Hotspot as source for the fan curve.
thats because memory and core are on the same dye
@@northwestrepair The memory usually stays around 30C away from the Hotspot, and why the GPU Temp and GPU Hostspot Temp consistently have around 20 in AMD cards who DON'T have memory packaged as near as Vegas do, like anything newer, the same temp difference still applies, explain that.
Thank you for the video, as a current owner/user of a 6900xt. I laughed and cried watching. Cheers!
That grinding pen joke is just as good as the Thunberg one, same can't be said about that crappy pcb.
very informative, thanks GRETA ....
This video is absolutely amazing. Humour is great too 😂 Thank you.
omfg this video is WILD super underrated so much information in this one single video I did not know so many things about this degradable and eatable pcb and stuff.
such a beautiful GPU and you made it alive.
@northwestrepair, I just discovered this chanel. Great videos! You often mention you only like evga and I agree, but we are now left without them. Based on your experience and expertise, what would you say about AsRock? Many are prising their built quality, especially 6900 XT OC Formula. Did you have one on your bench?
That's really weird. I've owned FIFTEEN Radeons in a row, including an ATi RX 6800 XT OG Reference model similar to the 6900 XT that you have there and it has been rock-solid (and I even used it for mining for 6 months).
Awesome fix. Love the AMD cards but would love to see them lower the core temps. I reverted to water cooling to drop temps to a decent standard. Should not need to but happy with the result
lmao the greta thunberg bit got me 🤣🤣
Nicely done! By the way, did you offer the customer to install a few thermal pads on the back plate chips?
Unrelated to the "girl", but this is a real environmentalist. How much money you have saved people, energy for the production of something new and nature itself.
A masterpiece.
Thanks 👍
I did not know you could dig so deep in to GPU repairs.
Excelente trabajo , muy buen video y un cliente satisfecho de nuevo.
ROFL, Greta....you are a master at repairs. thanks for sharing
Nice videos man! You'd freak out with the temps I'm getting from a "Chinese RISC" RX 6600XT... 114C on hotspot. Usually hotspot is between 18-22C higher than the card's temp
great video as always! man I hate the 5000 and 6000 series, I have an asrock 6900xt from a customer that had cold solder joints on the memory on every single memory module close to the pciexpress, such heavy cards .-. just a question tho, will you share your amd 5000-6000 tserver with us on the google drive link in the description? I have plenty of amd test softwares but none of them work with 5000 and 6000, even tho they said it should work, I'll try to find the gigabyte test in the mean time, thanks for the video!
Yup heavy indeed mine is 3lb lmao 😂
I am super happy to see real technicians fixing PC hardware still exists! Cheers mate!
It would be nice if you could made a video were you explaining in more detail how you know where to solder and where to put a wire to connect the broken layers.
A step by step what you are doing ...
That's really some dedication man
It seems most AMD cards from this gen have difference between core and hotspot in 15-20°C range and almost nothing can be done, except some very expensive mods.
6600XT has VRAM too close to the core, which disallows use of almost any aftermarket cooling (Prolimatech MK-26 might fit, but the mounting bracket is in the way, if i´d wanted to put passive heatsinks on VRAM; only other option being NZXT G12).
Stock thermal pads are very stiff. When i first opened the card, i ruptured the VRM pad. Ended up replacing all of them with Thermal Grizzly Minus pads (only not much expensive pads with various sizes available in my area).
I also have a question: Is it better to use backplate with pads or remove the backplate altogether? The 6600XT i have (Asus Dual) is fairly short (244mm), so even without the backplate, it won´t bend much (and if i´d see any bending, i´d use metal support i have from the time, when i was using 30cm Strix 1070.
PS.: It´s totally possible this GPU was made by GIGABYTE. AMD does not make the reference design directly, but has AIB partners make them. So even AMD design can be made by Gigabyte, Sapphire, Powercolor, etc.
I also think, that the difference between "core" and "hot spot" is actually about "core" sensor being in the socket, while "hot spot" is in the actual core. AMD driver fan curve is set around hotspot temperature and not core, which seems shady (if it were so insignificant, why make the fan curve around it?).
My RX 6700 at stock voltage and clocks (50mhz OC by Sapphire Pulse) has a delta of 25 to 26 degrees C. I'm such a "lucky" person. By undervolting to1.09 volts, delta dropped to 15 to 16 degrees C.
I get what they were trying to achieve by using the pad instead of thermal paste, no way it will pump out. But it's way to thick. 0.5 mm is insane.
AMD reference cards are not good imho. If someone wants to buy a Radeon GPU he should opt for Sapphire. I’ve had dozens of them and they have never failed me. Sapphire is like EVGA who are the best for Nvidia cards. The people of this time are lucky because we have a technician like you. Keep up the good good work.
I wasn't ready for the new red soldering pad!
Just a friendly note with good intentions. Some times in your videos you fly past some important moments of the repair, which are either too interesting to not show in depth footage or in this case show where and what the problem is. I had to rewind quite a few times to find out what trace exactly broke and needed to be repaired. All the ground (past tense of grind) copper parts appeared to cover a big surface of the board beyond the cracked part and be continuous despite the crack. Except 2 thin traces that briefly and barely appeared at 2:42. You could for example pause for a moment and show the broken trace that needs to be repaired. The reflection makes things even worse for the viewer. Maybe I completely misunderstood what's happening here. Anyway.
Thank you for your videos. Another amazing repair in this one.
P.S.1 I'm not a professional repair technician and thus I enjoy all the tinkering, soldering, desoldering, bridging, wicking, blasting with UV, reballing, cleaning, repading, criticizing, making humor, and fixing parts of the video besides the the diagnosing part. I would get it if you want to appeal more to technicians than amateurs.
P.S.2 I own an RX 6700 (Sapphire Pulse) and the gap between edge and hotspot temperature is 25 degrees C. 20 degrees C ambient temp, 72 degrees edge, 97~98 degrees hotspot. First day I got the card and started testing, I noticed it and right away I lost my mind. I didn't know before watching your videos that this delta is an important thing. Then again everyone is suggesting that RDNA2 cards MUST be undervolted as if they are all operating at a wrong voltage from factory. Undervolted from 1.2 volts to 1.09 and dropped the delta from 25~26 degrees to 15~16 degrees and under the same ambient temp and load, edge dropped from 72 to 62 degrees C.
So, Radeon fabricates their own bare boards, or do they contract it out to a board fabricator? The fab house logo is on the board somewhere, usually near the UL '94V-0' designator (not always). It looks like either the board surface, or, soldermask ink was contaminated in some way during application. Was the entire board like that or just the one spot? If just the one spot, then it was probably some contamination on the board surface. I really like your videos... very interesting.
Plz make a vid of the equipment and tools you use :)
You are my most favorite Guy on youtube! mazing informative videos
I still have a working radeon 6790. Funny how it had 256bit memory bus back in the day, but still many of today even middle-range cards has only 128bit
Superb video, I was just wondering would it be a good idea just to trim/cut out whole clip and use GPU without it? I think der8auer did something similar on CNC machine with flooded GPU, sadly it didn't help.
Interesting commentary style, I like it. Although I don't quite understand the intended audience. there are some things you did / used without explaining, perhaps you already explained the repair tools in a previous video. Or was that trade secrets??
You'd think that after 15 years of PCIe cards being designed, they would stop putting traces in the vulnerable slot hook. It's almost as if they are doing it intentionally.
My open box MSI reference Radeon VII $700 from FRYs Electronics (no longer in business) was way too hot and WAY TOO LOUD in 2017. Had to learn how to water cool. Direct from EKWB spent $700+ for a dual radiator + cpu & gpu blocks & pump. Even had a call from my credit union asking if and why I was making a purchase from EKWB native country of Slovenia.
After 6 months of system lockups with buzzing, then restarting when launching some games, and League of legends causing restarts 100% of the time after champ selection, rage ripped it out. Drove to Best Buy and had to spend $800 for an EVGA 2080Super XC Ultra which fixed all the issues and wasn't overly hot nor was it overly loud.
Fast forward to 2022. AMD offered a 6950XT & 5800X3d combo for about $1000. The 6950XT was hitting 117C on the hotspot!
Even under volting and reducing power it still was too hot for my comfort. Had to once again order water cooling parts this time of about $500 due to lucky timing on sales @ EKWB. Temps are now in the 70s to 90s on the hotspot depending on game and whether I use resolution scaling.
When I disassembled the 6950XT the cooling graphite pad on the core was not centered and part of the core was uncovered! When I installed the water block I used Noctua NH-T2 thermal paste. It has been cool and quiet ever since. Using Noctua redux 120mm 1700rpm fans. Due to how annoying the AMD graphics suite is and how laggy/buggy it is, I installed just the driver. I use MSI Afterburner to manage the card.
Real therapeutic just watching gpus being fixed
I think they fixed the hot spot problem with a specific driver if I am not mistaken.
You're an artist. Wish I had a bad card to send you!!
Please, start motherboard repairing videos too. I like to learn.
Awesome.
Thanks!
yo! tony been long time since u upload :)
Busy
In the past 6 years i bought 2 new gpus, both times I lost the rma lottery and got a faulty unit :(
I was so happy to make the swap to amd and 2 days later i had to send it back because even after spending 2 days in forums and trying everything my limited knowledge allowed me to i just couldn't get it to show me a signal. On all 4 ports, on different monitors and even on a second system.
Now I gotta wait who knows how long again :(
Did the pcb cracked due to weight of the gpu or are there other factors? Great content mate.
If it was just due to the weight this would be a far more common issue.
Yes. Heavy card.
Possibly damaged during transport rather then it's own weight.
Gigabyte would break under it's own weight.
@@northwestrepair They did include a decent gpu support bracket this gen so it should be fine right ? At least for the 4090, but why their rate of cracking pcb is so high ?
Awesome video
Bro you're a true Magician!! If I ever need my card fixed... 😉
I always wonder at the end of the videos how much the repair cost would be for certain things. If willing to say, how much did this cost the customer to fix? I know im one that is horrible with something that breaks and I cant clearly see what's wrong, Ill just say F it time for something new after a short time trying to fix it. I think a lot of people, 1. would love to know how much it would cost to fix their card if something goes wrong. 2. help people realize it might be cheaper to fix then try and just get a new card or having to try and rma something that might be a hassle and not covered/argued about for to long. I understand if its something you rather not talk about in videos, but also it might get you more customers. Either way thanks for another great video.
Great vid. At the end, there is a fan speed of only 40%?
As always, great job pal
I like the humor in this channel, makes it even more fun to watch 😄
Wonderful work.. just wondering if you can, how much do you charge for these services?
80 for a fix. no fix no charge.
Parts fee may apply.
This repair had no parts so.....
@@northwestrepair that is a decent price, if I have some problems with my cards, I'll probably send them to you...
People, if you have a huge graphics card, it's worth it just to buy an anti-sag brace. I know the braces should be included with these huge cards, but they're not, but it's cheap and could save you a lot of heartache and money.
do you know where is the hotspot located?
No.
Great video as always , Can you direct me to where i can find that mem utility , recently i was repairing 6700xt , that had memory issue , and ended up replacing all memory chips , due to lac of diagnostic program .
I have the same preheat-er 8280 , but to warm the board to 150 i must set it to 250 , did You modify it ?
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The red soldering mask is a tribute to techcemetery. 😊
Red is irritating to eyes, maybe thats why he stopped fixing gpus ?
Another great video. Thanks.
Actually i got the same grinding pen and the remaining LEDs are indicating the pressure and how hard it IS for the pen to pen. I often remove glue residue with it from liguid glue.
Always like your video
I appreciate that!
my 5700xt also has a 20c delta but it is manageable with some undervolting and framerate cap. it does spike to 90c during some gaming scenes but not through all the game.
Gotta love the dried veggie PCB
mmmmmmm yummy 😋
Your work inspires me even more to study the structures of these GPUs, mainly AMD, although the drivers are still bad, but they are great graphics cards, thanks for every detail in the videos, this demonstrates how efficient and precise you are in what you can see. can be done for even more these gpu's live longer.. Looking forward to your next video!
The lack of drivers makes them just pretty paperweights. I lost count, how many times i had to tweak or fiddle with something on the whole AMD platform (motherboards included).
Most stable GPU driver for me so far was/is 22.11.2. When i tried the newest (23.2.2 at the time), my PC screens started randomly flickering and this always led to automatic restart. As i read the notes for 23.3.1, it seems entire 6000 series has been abandoned in favor of 7000, as it started introducing new issues for 6000 series cards.
I totally dislike their "fine wine" approach. They do it only because they found out, they CAN and fans & followers will still defend them (poor, little, crying AMD victim - victimization is just a manipulation).
@@Morpheus-pt3wq so i bought the 6600 recently (my first amd gpu ever) and i didn't really have any BIG problems, don't get me wrong their drivers are not perfect and i had to do some googling and changings some settings but overall it has been decent experience.
the driver is not an issue for linux, but only if you're using the open source drivers.
@@autumn42762 I have many AMD gpus and Nvidia's too. Drivers have glitches in both and for anold gpu, AMD has AMERNIMEZ DRIVER. Rx 6500 xt is working great with no issues for me so far.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq I agree with your view bro, they are cards very capable of making a good experience, but drivers are like fruits on a tree, you just pick the best drivers for each day, W11, W10 and drivers, each card responds in a different way , I have an old RX580 that the best driver was v22.10.3 for both versions of the 500 and 400 series that still have people around the world using it. back...
Man! you are one of a kind.
Where did you study?
I was lucky enough to pickup the ASUS liquid cooled version cheaper than the air blower cards and the delta is 5-10c with max temp under 60c, so should be good for many years.
You're my new favourite youtuber.
great work as always
Where are you located, there is no one near me with your talent.
The correlation between Greta and the solder mask is a real stretch there guy! Still funny tho!
This is like watching a repair video while listening to a stand up show aswell. What more do you need in life?!?! 🤣🤣
A proud 6900XT reference design owner and my card is kicking almost 2 years without any problem, vertically mounted thank God.
Still, this video is hilarious and informative, if I ever run out of food I know what to eat 🤣🤣🤣
2:07 Wait, wait, wait. Thermal pads contain materials that are actually dangerous for electronics? What sorts of problems? Can you tell us please?
Very interesting.
I did the same thing with the plastic washers on my 6800xt after i changed the thermal pads and graphite better temps but still card gets hot.
What do you recommend as an upgrade video card?
EVGA 1080Ti is very good.
@@northwestrepair You're recommending an old, way weaker card to replace a 6800xt? Could you please explain your reasoning?
@@duduoson5278 AMD hate, it's pretty obvious in the video
Undervolt and increase power draw limit as much as it goes. If you are still not satisfied, drop clock speed to the point where it does not make any significant (to your gameplay) performance drop.
now that is a propre diagnosis