3x8 to 1x8 MTB Conversion - Stupid or WORTH IT?
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2018
- 3x8 to 1x8 conversion - In this episode I updated my 3x8 chain ring to a single 34 tooth Narrow Wide Raceface to a 1x8 drive train,.
Some say it's stupid, some say it's trendy... I did it for two reason's:
1) drop weight
2) Simplicity in the cockpit
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Yay a fellow rider that has no money and unknowingly triggers every single xc rider on the face of the Earth. Some people don't realize that we ride for fun not a Strava time.
@@that_squires_guy lol thanks for replying btw do you know the sizing of the front chainring thanks.
it's not just for the fun, 34/34 it's going to give you 1m on the easier gear, compared to the 0.64 a 22/34 setup would give, it's around 35% loss on how easy your easier gear will get? So now climbing will be harder just for the looks. Looks never go over function, there is a reason why the lower the number of disks the crankset has, the higher the number of sprockets on the back, to keep the climbing ratio as similar as possible without loosing much speed on the plain.
@@Asthbendriel lol I'm still going to do it
Amen brother 😂
Do what makes you happy bro, I did a similar thing to my city bike, I have a crap altus 8 speed drivetrain, i ditched my triple riveted together cranks up front, I now use a crankset with a 44t narrow wide. The bike is definitely more fun. I soon will upgrade the rest of my drivetrain to sram x9 for a more appropriate 1x10 setup.
I'd like to force this guy to listen to this music with headphones on full blast.
Shoulda used the Benny Hill music.
Is that a threat
Tari ng manok
Whyy?
Whyy?
I really like how honest this guy is. I’m a beginner and also find myself very interested and eager to learn more about fixing up mine and my kids bikes. And I’m also a cheap ass lol
Nothing is stupid if it works.
Not true at all
Bill Heckner Nothing is stupid if it makes the rider happy and allows one to spend more quality time on the bike!
NOTHING any market blinded idiots say will convince me otherwise!!
So why change in the first place?
@@Kayvoyager Because the psychological pressure of the marketing industry is to strong. And in this way you still get a psychological victory in not spending a lot more money on a 1×10/11/12 setup. But you knew that allready;-)
You could empty a bath tub with a spoon. Given enough time and it will work, but it is still stupid.
"He's using a multi tool for everything!!"
Well, it's called a MULTI tool, so...
He said this at the very begining doughnut.
@@steaks652 ""
Probably to keep bike snobs out of the comment section. Lots of douchebags in the cycling community
@@giggityeffyou Nothing truer has ever been stated than the second half of your comment.
"no body likes taking of handle bar grips" someone has never had lock on grips...
That's what I thought, lock ons are amazing, probably the best upgrade i ever made. (Haven't got a dropper yet)
I love my lock on grips to
@@dumbr2098 I reccomend the X-Brand dropper for $99. It has been reliable for 3 years on 2 different bikes of mine!
@@scottiemanners Yeah, it's stock on a lot of bikes!
It's stock on the bike I'm saving up for currently so I won't be buying it for my half broken bike I have right now.
Vitus Sommet, can't wait to have that bike.
My bike right now is a singlespeed cause my derailleur broke.. not buying new parts for it.
Lifehack: Use an air-pump and push air on the grips, on forget to cover the other side of the handle bar of course, it will inflate the grip a little bit allowing you to slide it in or out very easily.
Remove the front derailleur for a cleaner sleeker look.
AKA chainguide.
I guess the bike's running a 8 speed Acera rear derailleur.
Those things have almost no tension,so any bump with make the chain go off if not for the front derailleur.
Good call I was thinking why didn't he take that off too.... But good morning people!!
@@samiranroy2245 narrow-wide chainrings don't drop the chain
@@TheLaXandro Ex-fucking-actly. If you're going to upgrade to a single chainring up front, you NEED to get a narrow-wide chainring.
"I'm just a dumb mountainbiker that likes to tinkle with his toys" wow he totally described my condition
*tinker!!!😂😂 if you’re tinkling with them too, there’s nothing wrong with that either I guess😂
Did my 27 speed, just removed the smallest and largest chainrings and added a bash guard. Also removed the front derailleur and shifter. Works fine and super cheap.
I have a 3x8 hardtail but never touch the front shifter tbh. I always ride the middle chainring. Thanks for showing that the makeover is possible and actually not hard to do.
Proud 1 by 8 owner. I've actually upgraded the cassette to a 11-42T, which gives me quite a bit of range. Works like a charm!
What's the teeth of your chain ring? Thank you in advance!
@@theking_023 I wanted to know the same thing. I just converted my Trek Marlin GF 29er to 1x8 and i went with a 32t chainring and its ok for moderate grades but as soon as i get to any real climbs im not able to make it far before i run out of steam. So i ordered a 30t (smallest size i can find for 104bcd cranks/chainrings) and i think thats going to help. In my very limited experience im thinking 32t up front would be fine for the average rider in a 1x8 setup with 27.5 wheels. If your bike is a 29er and your cassette is a 11-32 like mine though i would recommend starting at a 30t chainring (or 28t if your cranks work with them and you can find one). Ive had zero chain drops since the conversion, but id hate to "jinx" it lol. Im not using a chian guide either. I planned on getting one if i was dropping the chian but so far it looks like the narrow wide chainring is sufficient. And on top of that im not even using a 9 speed chain like some guys do when they convert to 1x8. I imagine if i was dropping the chain that might also help to try.
Thumbs up for flattening the washers and using them for spacers. Love to see fellow tinkerers being resourceful.
I just bought a used talon 3 that was already converted to 1x8 by the seller. Keeps it simple for me , hill climbing and trails I'm riding works perfect.
Love the vid and the background music!!!
Dude got the same multi tool and crank and eyeing the same chainring, this was exactly what i needed to see
Nice one. I hope it's working great for ya.
About 10 years ago, single speed MTB was all the rage.
Good job. Have fun!
I remember being a kid and upgrading my Raleigh Rampar 500. I went to Bradley's department store which hasn't existed in a long time. They had a BMX section with bike parts. Not top of the line but good for a kid. I upgraded every single part of my bike and I took pride in it. Thank God there are still kids like this! Great video keep biking! I'm 46 I still hit the trails and bike more than I ever had. But I still do dumb s**t and wreck all the time. Scars are better than tattoos!
I done the same thing recently after realising out of the 27 gears on my bike I was using about 4!
yup... i have a 3x8, but i find i usually leave the front one in the middle... so might be trying this too.
@@unclefreddieDied mixed feeling man , the granny front 22 works well on steep uphills
Hmm i have a 3x8 and i want to convert to 1x can i do like pick the 2nd gear at front to use as 1x cuz i still want speed on flats
@@sdqsdq6274 I hear ya, but you can probably get the same "ratio" with a big cassette and a 30 tooth chain ring....???
@@EgoLifter8011 yes, you'd probably want a bigger chain ring... closer to 40 tooth is my guess... and a bigger cassette.
Good video. This shows how easy it is for a simple 3x8 to a 1x8 conversion. Use your special tools and your procedures to suit yourself.
I did the same thing to a 3x9. Now it is a 1x10. So much simpler and cleaner. I was told not worthy since the bike is a bit old but I am glad I did it.
Fun. I’ve thought about it. Getting a good range rear cassette is what has kept me from trying it.
11-42 or 11-46 if you can find one lol
I've just recently converted from 3x9 to a 1x9. Have not upgraded my rear derailleur yet, do have a 11-40 cassette upgrade, previously a 11-34, new chain, derailleur hanger extender, and a 34 tooth n/w chainring. Lost a little gear range on both ends, but, I love it! Declutters the handlebars, drops a little weight and looks very cool and simple. Bbg bashwich bash guard, protects chain ring and works as a chain retainer also. Works well, looks cool, lighter weight, simpler, and cleaner. May upgrade to eagle nx in the near future. More low end, so increases gear range. Great vid. I appreciate your conversion. Follow up vid would be cool. I bet it works great and looks cool!
@@that_squires_guy will do. Great channel man!
This is the best part of biking. The exploration of biking is not just on the trail, it's in the shop (where ever that may be), too
I enjoyed that ride! You got the job done! Sometimes you have to improvise. I upgraded an old mongoose bike by replacing the crappy rear spring shock with an (not too expensive, but ok) air shock. To get the bushings out of the old shock and into the new shock, I cobbled together a few sockets and a big c-clamp. Worked just fine and didnt cost anything. Enjoy your new bike!!!
This is a really good video. just subscribed keep it up and you'll have heaps more
Nice video - Don't forget the front derrailleur, it will rattle like crazy if you keep it, especially if you don't have a clutch in the back. You could do from now on 1x10 really easy, $48 a Shimano Zee FR Derailleur(cheapest clutch system I believe), $21 a Shimano Zee Shifter and a cheap 11-36 cassette(prices at jensonusa - cheapest around) Zero chain drops, and I ride pretty hard on both of my bikes. That's what I did on my 29er Diamondback Overdrive and a Norco Shore 3 downhill. It is awesome !
Bro keep up the good work. Love how you keep it real 👍🏽
Really good tutorial, i was thinking of changing 3x8 to 1x8 and i didn't know if i could do it without buyin the whole part, i mean, juste the ring or the plate, but with this video i changed my mind, thank u so much!!!!
Do you like watching seths bike hacks? Because i noticed that you have almost the same approach.
@@that_squires_guy Narrated voice over a video is not Seth's invention, you know. It's just the topic.
That what I was thinking
Hey there!
How its this hack going so far???
Im trying to do something alike but turning my 3X8 into a 2X8 with a much larger cassette. Since i never use the larger disc anyways...
How has it worked for you so far???
I'm a fan of the 1x - one question tho, why didn't you pull the derailleur, it's a big part of the weight loss?
Sounds like Seth too
It's awesome cause the only thing you can accidentally bump on the trail is the fine gears and they don't mess you up as much
dude your videos are great. I found this one just by a mistake and I gotta say. Great work! I wish you luck.
I did the same thing on my 3x7 set up freewheel on my cheap bike. It works fine as long as you get passed the noises coming from the rear non clutched mech. Eventually I upgraded to my 12 speed hard tail but it was a fun project and i enjoyed it. I also added a chain guide/tension-er to reduce noise and add chain retention.
Here are 3 tips (for slip-on grips):
1. When taking grips off, use an air compressor and put the nozzle under the lip of the grip. If no compressor is available, kinda semi roll the grip of the bar onto itself.
2. You can shove some zip ties under/in the grip to get it off.
3. To put grips on, spray alcohol/water onto the bars (it will dry), it make it much easier
Or just use lock on grips! (My preference, they're more secure too)
I found jamming long zip ties right under the grips about 3 on each side and the grips slide right off. And hairspray to get them back on, let it dry before you use the bike. Now that's proper cheap-ass 👌
@@MartyMcFryyy Right, I forgot that trick! I'll edit my original comment.
This looks fun! Now, I want to convert from 3x9 to 1x9!!
iiFireCraftX don’t do it 1x9 would suck climbing
Lol I thought the same
@@jayf2487 did u ever try it? And how it suck at climbing?
I have done it.. 36t 1x9 with 11-42 cassete..
Same
From a certified bike mechanic great job! Been wanting to do it to my 3X8.
Instant chain guide. Now I know Front Derailleur can be a chain guide. Nice one
Remove the reflector. It weight a ton of uncoolness
Seth's bike hacks also used to run a 1 by 8 setup on his trek bicycle
the Topeak Multi tool is awesome!! A little tip for taking off slip on grips: 1) slip a zip tie between or pull up on the inside of the grip where it meets the handlebar. 2) pour a few drips of isopropyl alcohol between the grip and handlebar. 3) as you twist the grip back and forth, the alcohol will work its way around the grip and make it much easier to slip off.
Nice video, informative and to the point.
Well as my old friend Timon would say “Hakuna Matata”
What a Wonderful Phrase.
I speak spanish bro, I don't understand nothing but I was like the video jajajajajaj
I just did this mod to my old 90's Univega and love it!
its a great idea... I rode XC in the 90's and I never understood the front derailleurs....1x8 makes more sense and looks way better!!! good job man!!
Pro tip to remove the grip, roll it into itself to take it off. So much easier lol
Multitools for everything...hahaha
I knw wht u feel dude..😆
Great simple conversion......I will try this on my MTB
I'm running a 1X11 and I LOVE IT
might look really cool to use the breech side of a shell or rifle casing drilled out instead of lock washers
tip for getting grips off put a 2mm allen key under the grip pour some rubbing alcohol under pull the key out and they will slide right off. RJ the bike guy is where I got it from. Its much easier.
@@that_squires_guy I hear ya just something to remember if you find yourself needing to get some grips off.
Blow em off with compressed air! Way quicker! You
can shoot them across the room sometimes!
looks good ! ride have fun & be safe !
i converted my drive train into a 1X8 and dont regret it.. the bike is lighter and a whole lot smoother with new cranks. great video man
Been using 1x7 speed for 2 years and i received a body builder's legs
Was thinking about doing this to my bike, would you recommend?
Thanks
@@robbinsb1007 what are the numbers of your drivetrain?
I was thinking of doing a 1 by 6
Budget MTB 👍 Keep riding bro and don’t listen to the haters, those guys are broke
Buddy, an excellent idea. And is better 1x8, less weight, more easy handle shifts.
Ah man really needed to see you testing it out
That's a great idea. you can get a pretty good gear ratio for most stuff even with an 1X8. I also have a 26T chainring installed in case I have to climb a huge hill, and when that happens I just stop and move the chain to the small ring manually. It rarely happens so I think it is still better than having a front derailleur. I hate front derailleur. Even my road bikes don't have front derailleur!!! ;)
Back in the 70s this is what Id do on my road bike! I broke my derailleur and didnt see the point in buying a new one.
If youre careful and plan ahead you can shift while moving. Just stop pedaling or bad things happen! When you get to the top, stop, catch your breath,then shift to the big gear!
Im doing it on a drop bar mtb Im building with a big rack for beer and lunch. Thats my handicap so I can get my ‘less fit’ buddies to ride with me!
It gives extra motivation to push the big gear too. Usually I just ride my singlespeed and walk up the hardest hills I cant clean.
Back in the 70s my bike was a 1X5! So thats more manly. Right?!?!
Do you even ride bro.
Bobby Hempel Who me? Every day. Im definitely addicted to riding. Im stuffing my face right now to get ready for a cold wet 40 mile trail ride.
Try oval chainring. also the fork on this bike is scary and the race face chain rings are strong, but does not help if cranks are garbage, I managed to twist a chainring.
for mtb 1x8 is horrible for mtb, even commuting, at least with stock cassette, but ok for flatter areas, of course if it's a bike with smaller wheels it will be lighter than for 29er.
if you got small enough chainring and wide range cassette it can work.
This is real... a custom build!nice one bro. ImGonna try this yo my 2nd hnd mtb
Great content love to see more!
Year 2018 and you still use square tapered crank and 8 speeds??? I am glad I am not alone LoL. I run 38T with custom 12-32 sprockets btw :)
Outer BB Shimano cranks getting cheaper nowadays like Acera/Altus, though one reason I keep square taper because knee pain from the Q-factor but it's adjustable by changing either the cranks or the BB length unlike outer BB which is fixed.
Yes kinda like that. Pedal also has Q-factor with longer/shorter spindle and there's an adapter named 'knee saver' used mostly on road cranks, just google it.
I only use the middle 32 and inner 22 chain rings on the front and a 32-11 cassette. I still use a shimano deore square tapered crank aswell.
There are now cassettes 8 speed....10-36-11-40 teeth......for a budget i thinking of buy it to look, looks like a 10 speed bike...
Retro grouch here! Theres nothing wrong with square taper cranks. I have a few high end but pretty old examples. They all still work fine.
If people think theyre not stiff enough, learn how to pedal properly! In a circle!
The best way to learn pedaling is on a fixed gear bike with low gears.
I converted to 1x last year. after a few months I converted back to 3x. for the kind of riding I do I need the extreme ends of the gear range. 1x seems like a compromise to save a bit of weight.
I think keeping a 3x is much more beneficial for extra gear range especially going up hills than saving some weight and having a more appealing look with a 1x
Absoluty smashing vid mate I really enjoyed it ♥️🙏
hey men i just saw this at my recommendation and you earn a new subcriber
I did the exact same thing on my Giant Talon! I have a Truvativ Descendant GXP Alloy crankset, but I have a wide range 8 speed 11-40t sunrace cassette out back.
@@that_squires_guy it works amazingly! I have a 32t chainring, and it feels great!
shoot a 1 x 7 would work fine too(what I use), I think the only things that would matter is the size of the largest cog and the smallest cog on the cassette or freewheel, for climbing and speed.
I did the same exact thing on the same exact bike and found it to be not what I intended. I ended up getting a 11-42 10 speed cassette and Slx components. Similarly to you, I had no prior experience in fixing bikes. Good luck to you and your channel and do more vids like this!
Was just thinking about doing this. Thanks for the tutorial.
I have 3x9 .... i feel better is change for a totally new bike if you want to move to 1x9 or other setup
U should take the front derailleur off tho
most creative works pal...well done
Brilliant video, great channel 👍
You should get lock on grip
yup
Use a air compressor to take of & on your grips a lot easier .
Where is the challenge?
Rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle is even easier
Great vid, lovely dog too!
That a good attemt to change, give us a next video with the results uf swapping from 3x8 to 1x 8 , the results, thanks, joe.
Bro were the same, i aslo converted my 3x8 to a 1x8 setup but i changed the cassette its now 11-40
How does that run for you? Smoothly or rigidly?
FLTS its smooth...
I also run on 11-40 casette...
What's your front sprocket tooth?
Did you need a new derailleur too?
Because of this video, I will convert my mtb to 1×8 later..
I think its great you are trying out different things thats another way of learning I myself enjoy taking things a part computers, cars anything for fun and learning good job
When I see a mtb-ing UA-camr like you,I don't say "what the heck are you doing?".Rather,in the back of my mind,I think "Hey,that's just nice to see someone being actually resourceful."Nice vid and accompanying commentary,bro.
The physics is, when u up or down 1 cog in front derailure, its equal to 2 to 3 up or down in rear cog
3by is more useful if ur neighbourhood have steep hill
Yes it is! That's why I'm thinking of a 3 or 2 chainrings and single cog rear with chain tensioner. I only use the biggest and middle ring in my triple crankset.
I done this but just got a bit bigger front sprocket think it's about 40 teeth 😀
helpful video, props on the channel
That's not cheap.. that's smart. People who buy any or everything are suckers who can't do nada! Also not a bad idea to convert a 3x to a 1x8. I did and I love it. And people love my mtb. It shows character
Agree
This materialistic, gotta have the newest gadget mentality drives me nuts! My grandfather went through the depression. I guess it rubbed off on me.
To Start out, save your money, make do with what you have,then buy good quality, take the best care of it, use it until its spent! I do this with tools,cars etc not just my bikes.
I made a 1x to a 2x conversion on my walmart bike had a 36 tooth on the front and all of the trails i ride have steep climbs so i cut out a 22tooth gear on a plasma cutter and drilled holes in the original crank and now i have a bike that can climb
Robert Trageser you missed the point.
I feel sorry for the multi tool. Goes through more abuse then the bike. LOL
I abuse mine the same way. It seems to handle more torque that I can give. Every now and then the bolt in the hinge needs tightening but hey, another multitool has a fitting bit!
Did the same on my Rocky Mountain looks tight and had to shorten my chain to suit Have fun 🤪🤪
Brilliant. Just what I was after. I’m going to do the same.
Nothing to switching to a 1 by, but maybe invest in some lock on grips?
Great getting there!
I hope you didn't throw away your 3 X set up because in a year or two when The Fad goes away you'll be wanting to put it back on
I've been riding like this 92.and I still say "Groovy".
motorcycleguy73 in the future there will me more 1x and less 3x
Absolutely loved your video bro!!👍🏻
@@that_squires_guy OK! I have Subed you!😊
I was more shocked at the adjustable spanner than the multitool!
😂💀
ill do it with my 11-42 8speed
I have the same idea. ✊
Is that Giant Talon 3?
Great vid and great voice over com 😂
6 hours after buying a raceface 1x sprocket to convert my bike to 1x9 i stumble across your video :D
the new ones have built in threads to receive the original screws. no more need to bodge there :)
Also by removing the large chain ring you lose speed on the open road and down hill
No shit
You just made your bike less capable. Good job!
Michael Felici LMAO!!
The music was a great choice :), interesting vid and review too
I just remembered you had this vid. Trying to get my gf into mtb, and switching out to a 1x gear system will be easier for her to use on the flat trails that I'm trying to get her hooked on haha
Or just buy the right size chainring bolts.
You can take an old chainring and saw out the bolt hole tabs. You can then file them to make it look really clean. I like repurposing things. It saves money and not adding to landfill.