To help fund more hydrogen engine projects, I am now able to supply the Hydrogen Flashback Arrestor used in this video 😀 feel free to reach out on my Facebook page: facebook.com/hydrogenguys
@@Hydrogenguys I don’t know how practical it would be to have a hydrogen generator in a built up area like a town or city but it might be possible to build it underground and then if anything goes wrong then it would be already burred underground, it would need to have a reservoir above ground so that it can be filled up, and the wind turbine and solar panels would also need to be above ground, but the actual reactor and hydrogen storage would need to be below ground
The best way to go in my opinion is to use Ethanol or Methanol as a Hydrogen carrier and use an on board reformer to release the Hydrogen on demand apparently there is more Hydrogen in Ethanol or Methanol than there is in a liquid Hydrogen tank.
Thats fascinating Work! Maybe in our countries have common chevy or hyundai engine for LPGI or LPI engine, so maybe hydrogen conversion will easier than petrol injectors. But anyway, its really amazing! H2 could be a new future fuel in a year!!
This is an interesting project you got going! As for the NOx recirculating the exhaust gases could help a bit but will require some work. What did you do tho for the water condensation, does it get evaporated, or do you have a water collector? Keep the good content coming anyway.
Hi thankyou for the comment, EGR would help with NOx for sure. as for the water it evaperaste in the exharst when hot, but it did rust the exhaust back box over time, hence why it has the aftermark back box, really it needs to be a stainless steel exhaut system.
I'm just starting work on a hydrogen generator that I'm gonna install in a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Im using graphite and neodium magnets to increase the efficiency. Do you have any advice on magnets with hho generators regarding their arrangement?
Great work! You could defitily get it's stats up if you had the resources of Mike Copeland (Arrington Performance). I don't believe humans can solve "climate change" but we can do a lot about pollution!
This is really awesome, I'm trying to make something similar with an in expensive old car, do you have a video or a article on the process of making this hydrogen car
Not yet, im hoping to make a new video in the new year showing more detail, i buy the gas and it can get expensive, so no progress on the car till after winter. thankyou for your support :)
Is there a platform where I could speak to you privately? I am looking to do something quite similar to this and you seem to have answers to questions I have.
Reading the comments you mention high compression would be ideal. Does this mean a diesel would run on it? Also by nature they tend to have larger injectors
hello Iam studying mechanical engineering in India 🇮🇳 in. CBIT Iam trying to make a hydrogen powered internal combustion engine as my project I do not where to start And started a little Can u please give me ur Contact email for a little help
Awesome still seems very lively despite running port injection. If you where running direct injection you would get at least 10% more torque and power with probably better economy too.
It was fine in the most part, when under load (normal driving conditions) the RPM would take a while to build up, and it needed more throttle to get going from standstill do to the lower torque, you can see this when I pull away, needed to use the clutch more. Direct injection with forced induction is the way to go, the pressure needed for direct injection would be crazy though.
@@HydrogenguysFrom what I have read you only need high pressure injection if you are injecting at full compression like in a diesel, but you dont need that when burning hydrogen you can inject just after the intake valve closes while the piston is at BDC.
Used a stand alone ignition system, the air fuel ratio was not measured in this test, hydrogen can burn in a wide range of oxygen levels, in this video the engine was running very rich, burning lots of fuel, ideally the engine would use forced induction.
Running it though through a carb or just feeding it into the air intake isn’t ideal, you can run a lower pressure which is great but the hydrogen can backfire very easily, imagine the whole air intake manifold full of hydrogen going boom. Would recommend a metal intake manifold, and a good running engine with minimal to no valve overlap. Fuel injection reduces this problem significantly. Hope this helped :)
fantastic job. please can you show the injectors ? its direct into cilinders or into air filter? whats the electronic that manage the combustion? can you show more details please. i ll be scared of a pure hydrogen system. can you try pure liquid ammonia into a lpg system with hho into air filter to support combustion? ammonia its cheaper and more safe to go around. with a scr filter nox emission will be lowered about 90%.
hi, the injectors are petrol fuel injectors, larger than standard to accommodate the higher flow rates. It is port injection (injected at the intake port per cylinder) direct injection would be best but requires higher pressures. pure hydrogen gas is quite safe if respected, just like petrol really. Pure hydrogen cannot burn without oxygen like most fuels, its why I prefer to use pure hydrogen instead of 'HHO' gas which is dangerous to store because it always has Oxygen present. I'm not sure about ammonia, but it does look interesting. thankyou for the comment.
Yes that would be good, I did this in an old video and it worked well, but for the rebuild I’ll be aiming for performance over emissions. I’ll still be using water mist injection to reduce Nox
Hi and congratulations on your project.. can I ask did you fit up dated petrol injectors or lpg injectors .. just wondering on damage to the injector with water contamination..
Can be a lot more powerful too with direct injection typically you get 15% more power running direct injection, and it's not complicated since you can inject moments after the inlet valve closes while the piston is at the bottom of its stroke, no need to inject at TDC or at full compression like in a diesel engine.
bro i have my car convertet on lpg gas. im about to switch lpg gas to pure hydrogen. with lpg system injection. but i want a bit help about if ecu will mixture it correct on right time
Cheers thankyou for the support. i plan on uploading a video in the next few months showing the details. i buy the gas from a gas supplier and it can get expensive, need to buy a pure hydrgen gas generator really to make my own.
This is pure hydrogen gas, it needs oxygen to burn so the tank is very safe, unless there is a gas leak of course, but that’s the same with petrol, only a hazard if it leaks, A special hydrogen flashback arrestor is also used to stop any flames travelling up the gas line from the engine. As with all things, it needs to treated with respect, if done right it’s perfectly safe.
@@Hydrogenguys will this gas tank can easily be replaced with lpg tanks ? because here in our country there LPG tanks in cars are pretty common. so is there any modification required for hydrogen gas tank in comparison with LPG gas tank ?. or do you guys sell some sort of hydrogen kit for cars ?
Thanks for subscribing to my channel. How do I convert my 05 Cadillac escalade ext to hydrogen ? Currently it gets 8 miles to the gallon 🙃 😩 Your proof of concept works 💪 ❤ I'd love to do this to all my vehicles. Keep up the good work 👏
That would be the dream. Yes i think so but it would drain the battery very quickly, battery power to gas, then to the engine for combustion. it would be better to use the battery to power a motor directly and skip the middle man. Would be like an electric car with extra steps.
Not good, however one of the fuel injectors was stuck open when filming this video, so it was wasting fuel. I doubt range will ever be good with hydrogen combustion when compared to other fuels.
Would definitely help with the low power I’m getting, wouldn’t help with the carbon emissions though. And I guess a second fuel tank would make it less practical, range is definitely a problem with this hydrogen car project
Are you injecting liquid hydrogen into your cylinders. Otherwise I'm pretty sure a fuel injector's won't inject gases .
I drove an LPG converted Ford f 350 work truck ,19 73 model year. Without taking it apart, it looked Pretty simple it was stock Motor from the manifold down. Just an odd looking sealed air filter cover With the propane line going into it. I'm guessing it was a throttle bodyInstead of a carb But it ran identical to my truck that was the same model that was running gasoline.
Hydrogen gas, yes it works pretty much the same way as an LPG converted car, except its passed through the injectors instead, the injectors will cease up eventually because there not made to flow gas under such high pressure
To help fund more hydrogen engine projects, I am now able to supply the Hydrogen Flashback Arrestor used in this video 😀
feel free to reach out on my Facebook page: facebook.com/hydrogenguys
The whole concept of this is just amazing, im going to find an old moped or somthing to try and convert!
Just added a new video on this car, might help you with your project.
The world needs you
Puts a new meaning to "Smiles per miles" when it comes to renewable energy and so on.
I cringed when I read that "smiles per gallon" 😅
Now that Is truly great, all you need is to build a hydrogen generator that could run on solar and wind to produce hydrogen on demand
That would be the dream,
Thanks for the support. :)
@@Hydrogenguys I don’t know how practical it would be to have a hydrogen generator in a built up area like a town or city but it might be possible to build it underground and then if anything goes wrong then it would be already burred underground, it would need to have a reservoir above ground so that it can be filled up, and the wind turbine and solar panels would also need to be above ground, but the actual reactor and hydrogen storage would need to be below ground
The best way to go in my opinion is to use Ethanol or Methanol as a Hydrogen carrier and use an on board reformer to release the Hydrogen on demand apparently there is more Hydrogen in Ethanol or Methanol than there is in a liquid Hydrogen tank.
fantastic work. thanks so much
Glad you liked it :)
@@Hydrogenguys Have you seen that it works for diesel engines as well? ua-cam.com/video/63qN6kAThbA/v-deo.html
Making hydrogen on the generator with no tank like car motor bike . We inject oil into the valves to keep engine cool
Thats fascinating Work! Maybe in our countries have common chevy or hyundai engine for LPGI or LPI engine, so maybe hydrogen conversion will easier than petrol injectors. But anyway, its really amazing! H2 could be a new future fuel in a year!!
i think LPG injectors will work better too. thankyou for the comment.
Sounds a bit like on quick burning race gas.
Regarding to your experience with the generator you should change the oil at least 4 times that often.
Yeah frequent oil changes for sure.
Please! Can you tell me what device you're using for ignition timing? I must retard my timing. And this is truly incredible work.
This is an interesting project you got going! As for the NOx recirculating the exhaust gases could help a bit but will require some work. What did you do tho for the water condensation, does it get evaporated, or do you have a water collector? Keep the good content coming anyway.
Hi thankyou for the comment, EGR would help with NOx for sure. as for the water it evaperaste in the exharst when hot, but it did rust the exhaust back box over time, hence why it has the aftermark back box, really it needs to be a stainless steel exhaut system.
Thanks, that's good to know
I'm just starting work on a hydrogen generator that I'm gonna install in a Mitsubishi Eclipse. Im using graphite and neodium magnets to increase the efficiency. Do you have any advice on magnets with hho generators regarding their arrangement?
Great work! You could defitily get it's stats up if you had the resources of Mike Copeland (Arrington Performance). I don't believe humans can solve "climate change" but we can do a lot about pollution!
Nice work Sir!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
@@Hydrogenguys No worries 🤙 Are you gonna tinker with it like compression ratio, forced induction etc??
well done
Cheers
This is really awesome, I'm trying to make something similar with an in expensive old car, do you have a video or a article on the process of making this hydrogen car
Not yet, im hoping to make a new video in the new year showing more detail, i buy the gas and it can get expensive, so no progress on the car till after winter. thankyou for your support :)
Whats the range in 1 tank of hydrogen? Did you modify air intake as well?
Not very far, that tank would last around 45 minutes at low RPM and low load.
Air intake was standard in the video :)
@@Hydrogenguysit is a tiny tank to be honest
Hi, I want to ask that is it gasoline engine and what kind of fuel injection system is in it because without direct injection will it work properly.
Yes it was originally a petrol engine and was running on port injection :)
Is there a platform where I could speak to you privately? I am looking to do something quite similar to this and you seem to have answers to questions I have.
The hydrogen guys Facebook page, the link is in the description :)
Reading the comments you mention high compression would be ideal. Does this mean a diesel would run on it? Also by nature they tend to have larger injectors
I would like to say yes but haven’t tried, diesel engine block and head but using spark plugs instead of glow plugs would be good to try.
hello Iam studying mechanical engineering in India 🇮🇳 in.
CBIT
Iam trying to make a hydrogen powered internal combustion engine as my project
I do not where to start
And started a little
Can u please give me ur
Contact email for a little help
Awesome still seems very lively despite running port injection.
If you where running direct injection you would get at least 10% more torque and power with probably better economy too.
It was fine in the most part, when under load (normal driving conditions) the RPM would take a while to build up, and it needed more throttle to get going from standstill do to the lower torque, you can see this when I pull away, needed to use the clutch more.
Direct injection with forced induction is the way to go, the pressure needed for direct injection would be crazy though.
@@HydrogenguysFrom what I have read you only need high pressure injection if you are injecting at full compression like in a diesel, but you dont need that when burning hydrogen you can inject just after the intake valve closes while the piston is at BDC.
Did you apply it in gasoline engine or LPG engine ?
Hi, this was a petrol engine.
Wow great work! But what about the air to fuel ratio how did you tune it?
Used a stand alone ignition system, the air fuel ratio was not measured in this test, hydrogen can burn in a wide range of oxygen levels, in this video the engine was running very rich, burning lots of fuel, ideally the engine would use forced induction.
So very rich like A/F 10 -11 ?like in gasoline or rich for hydrogen like 25 and more
That's cool
Would it be easier to do through a carburettor?
Do any of your videos cover a basic theory / set up?
Running it though through a carb or just feeding it into the air intake isn’t ideal, you can run a lower pressure which is great but the hydrogen can backfire very easily, imagine the whole air intake manifold full of hydrogen going boom. Would recommend a metal intake manifold, and a good running engine with minimal to no valve overlap.
Fuel injection reduces this problem significantly.
Hope this helped :)
fantastic job. please can you show the injectors ? its direct into cilinders or into air filter? whats the electronic that manage the combustion? can you show more details please. i ll be scared of a pure hydrogen system. can you try pure liquid ammonia into a lpg system with hho into air filter to support combustion? ammonia its cheaper and more safe to go around. with a scr filter nox emission will be lowered about 90%.
hi, the injectors are petrol fuel injectors, larger than standard to accommodate the higher flow rates. It is port injection (injected at the intake port per cylinder) direct injection would be best but requires higher pressures.
pure hydrogen gas is quite safe if respected, just like petrol really. Pure hydrogen cannot burn without oxygen like most fuels, its why I prefer to use pure hydrogen instead of 'HHO' gas which is dangerous to store because it always has Oxygen present. I'm not sure about ammonia, but it does look interesting. thankyou for the comment.
What about utilizing EGR for NOx?
Yes that would be good, I did this in an old video and it worked well, but for the rebuild I’ll be aiming for performance over emissions. I’ll still be using water mist injection to reduce Nox
Great work the future is hydrogen.............. Could you make a generator run by hho?
yes, one of my first videos was a engine running only on HHO, not very practical though.
Hi and congratulations on your project.. can I ask did you fit up dated petrol injectors or lpg injectors .. just wondering on damage to the injector with water contamination..
Thankyou :). these were just bigger injectors than stock, so not great for hydrogen. They eventually wear out after a few tanks of gas.
where do you get hydrogen from? and have you measured fuel cost per mile ?
Local gas supplier. Running cost would be very high, the tank doesn’t last long at all. Something to work on at least.
Thankyou for the comment
got it
Hydrogen combustion can be much more efficient than petrol, but you will need direct injection, or a turbocharger
Yep, increased compression too, has a lot of potential.
@@Hydrogenguys yes, you could raise compression easily to 15 or even 18:1
Can be a lot more powerful too with direct injection typically you get 15% more power running direct injection, and it's not complicated since you can inject moments after the inlet valve closes while the piston is at the bottom of its stroke, no need to inject at TDC or at full compression like in a diesel engine.
bro i have my car convertet on lpg gas. im about to switch lpg gas to pure hydrogen. with lpg system injection. but i want a bit help about if ecu will mixture it correct on right time
Awesome job man, is it possible to dedicate a video for the whole conversion process..:-)
Cheers thankyou for the support.
i plan on uploading a video in the next few months showing the details. i buy the gas from a gas supplier and it can get expensive, need to buy a pure hydrgen gas generator really to make my own.
@@Hydrogenguys Looking forward to it
Looking fwd for a video, me I wna convert my Renault megane 2 to run on hydrogen gas
how do you ensure saftey ? is it safe?
This is pure hydrogen gas, it needs oxygen to burn so the tank is very safe, unless there is a gas leak of course, but that’s the same with petrol, only a hazard if it leaks,
A special hydrogen flashback arrestor is also used to stop any flames travelling up the gas line from the engine.
As with all things, it needs to treated with respect, if done right it’s perfectly safe.
@@Hydrogenguys will this gas tank can easily be replaced with lpg tanks ? because here in our country there LPG tanks in cars are pretty common. so is there any modification required for hydrogen gas tank in comparison with LPG gas tank ?. or do you guys sell some sort of hydrogen kit for cars ?
Thanks for subscribing to my channel. How do I convert my 05 Cadillac escalade ext to hydrogen ? Currently it gets 8 miles to the gallon 🙃 😩
Your proof of concept works 💪 ❤ I'd love to do this to all my vehicles. Keep up the good work 👏
Sadly get worse mileage with this set up, but the concept is there, thanks for the comment,
Looking forward to seeing your finished velomobile shell.
Can you generate HHO using the battery of the car and then drive the car using it?
That would be the dream. Yes i think so but it would drain the battery very quickly, battery power to gas, then to the engine for combustion. it would be better to use the battery to power a motor directly and skip the middle man. Would be like an electric car with extra steps.
Let's check how many liters of gas it uses per kilometer, from building a generator to produce HHO gas.
I guess if the engine were built to run on hydrogen you could actually get the 25% power output back
Most likely, forced induction and higher compression would do the trick, would need a whole engine rebuild for forged components for sure
You should mount your mic much closer, this is pretty awful!
But what an interesting project!
The car engine might run properly and can be used going forward
Interesting
thankyou for the support
Do you compress your own hydrogen? If so what’s the process procedure?😊
I have done in the past, but this one is pre compressed, I have done videos in the past on how to compress it :)
25% lpg and engine working in the market place is better than diesel engine
Range?
Not good, however one of the fuel injectors was stuck open when filming this video, so it was wasting fuel. I doubt range will ever be good with hydrogen combustion when compared to other fuels.
You put hydrogen tank in the car so put lpg tank 25% and 75%hydrogen the car may run great try this power would be up
Would definitely help with the low power I’m getting, wouldn’t help with the carbon emissions though. And I guess a second fuel tank would make it less practical, range is definitely a problem with this hydrogen car project
Hydrogen mixes lpg would give 10 m
If you had 50 cars run on it hydration and lpg it working and going forward
It’s just like lpg I would like to make hydrogen in the car no tank
That would be amazing
You can’t you to drive 100 miles on hydrogen but with lpg it work in normal live yes hydrogen would be great but it not work 100%
25% less power is masive
Yep, crazy, needs a turbo charger to make up the losses ideally
@@Hydrogenguys that comes with more things as compression will need to be changed to support a turbo and its a bit of a rabbit hole lol
True. I mean use a car that is designed for a turbo or supercharger to to start with, so the vehicle is better suited for it
Are you injecting liquid hydrogen into your cylinders. Otherwise I'm pretty sure a fuel injector's won't inject gases .
I drove an LPG converted Ford f 350 work truck
,19 73 model year.
Without taking it apart, it looked Pretty simple it was stock Motor from the manifold down. Just an odd looking sealed air filter cover With the propane line going into it. I'm guessing it was a throttle bodyInstead of a carb
But it ran identical to my truck that was the same model that was running gasoline.
Hydrogen gas, yes it works pretty much the same way as an LPG converted car, except its passed through the injectors instead, the injectors will cease up eventually because there not made to flow gas under such high pressure
Big oil won’t like your work...
Today the enemy is big electric.