The Difference Between Gasoline And Hydrogen Engines

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  • How hydrogen combustion engines work, versus gasoline engines. Hydrogen combustion engines can be more efficient and with better emissions versus gas engines, due to the fuel differences of H2.
    This video will look at eight major differences between gasoline and hydrogen fuels used in internal combustion engines. This includes the combustion reaction and byproducts, air fuel ratio, ignition energy, flame velocity, auto-ignition temperature, diffusivity, quenching distance, and density. These properties result in drastic differences between using the two fuels, though both can easily be adopted and used in traditional otto-cycle piston cylinder engines, often with little modification to the existing engine hardware. Are hydrogen engines the future of internal combustion? Let's find out!
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  • @zenddoor
    @zenddoor 5 років тому +1336

    14 Minutes of uninterrupted teaching. My high school teachers would be pretty jealous of your efficiency. Thanks!

    • @09NXN06
      @09NXN06 5 років тому +29

      Exactly! 14 minutes is a semester

    • @markurban9113
      @markurban9113 5 років тому +16

      Because they need to fill their 40h/week contract

    • @jonskowitz
      @jonskowitz 5 років тому +37

      Jason doesn't need to constantly deal with that disruptive kid in the back row.

    • @zenddoor
      @zenddoor 5 років тому +22

      ​@@jonskowitz Yep, that's what I was going at. I wasn't that interested either back then so I was that kid some times, but a group of uninterested kids makes classes so unproductive. Respect for those teachers. And nice for Jason that he has just interested viewers that keep quiet while he is talking. :D

    • @starvalkyrie
      @starvalkyrie 5 років тому +11

      @@jonskowitz glad someone said it. Corralling idiots in the worlds most expensive daycare doesn't do educators any favors

  • @rip454vanwinkel
    @rip454vanwinkel 2 роки тому +337

    I really like how all the pro's and con's are presented in just the facts. I wish the news was like this.

    • @littlegile5072
      @littlegile5072 Рік тому +3

      Did he really mention that CO2 is highly preferred pollution over NOx?
      Must of missed it.
      NOx is an oxidizing agent and will react with other gases, particles, etc
      What you end up with is ground level ozone, smog, acid rains and more issues.
      My main concern is that this guy know it but make no mention while claiming "at least we get rid of that Carbon pollution" without even a mention about NOx big issues.
      It cause respiratory problem, allergies, inflammation of the lungs and throat, etc.
      How do I know he does ? He know what he talk about on it for the rest of the video. Bit of a bias when you claim a good thing you get rid of is CO2 when you dont show the other is worse.
      Its hundredS of time more dangerous for our climate. Why do people never explain that impress me. But such is youtube I suppose.
      (not trying to pull him down, still a fun watch)

    • @cnobillbradley9673
      @cnobillbradley9673 Рік тому

      Walter Cronkite delivered news via television in that manner just facts. One wanted to watch his newscasts.

    • @onlythewise1
      @onlythewise1 Рік тому +7

      @@littlegile5072 and the pollution of batteries to make them and throw away

    • @SGTGGeorge
      @SGTGGeorge Рік тому +1

      @@littlegile5072 Because we have things called catalytic converters, and for diesels DEF exhaust fluid...

    • @SGTGGeorge
      @SGTGGeorge Рік тому +3

      @@onlythewise1 You do realize that Hydrogen is the way forward... All electric cars are not... Until battery technology can advance to the point of recyclable, high capacity, high voltage, compact batteries arrive. Which there is already tests on solid state batteries and solid state hydrogen fuel cells that will be the future. Oh and you can make hydrogen in your garage from water using electricity... Can you do that with fossil fuels?! 👌😉😜

  • @mikesamyn7054
    @mikesamyn7054 2 роки тому +96

    I remember looking at this in a Ford research study using cylinder pressure analysis. The study showed very high maximum rates of pressure rises compared to gasoline. We thought that the engine would have to be structurally much more robust to accommodate the pressure loads. This was way back in 2006 or 7 when the study was presented.

    • @goldeneagle2066
      @goldeneagle2066 Рік тому

      Until you get into 1 car accident and with a tank full of hydrogen you'll blow everyone within 30 meters to straight to hell.

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator Рік тому +13

      So, a diesel-like engine structure would be recommended?

    • @jordanwhitecar1982
      @jordanwhitecar1982 Рік тому +2

      @@exploranator my thoughts exactly. diesel-like would bypass some of the downsides presented in this video and Mike's observation.

    • @egonzalezm
      @egonzalezm Рік тому +2

      does that also mean hydrogen is right now a better fuel source for heavy duty machinery like trucks and farming/construction equipment?
      because I think unless the weight of the engine can be sorted out to both resist high pressure but also be light; I’m not sure it could rev up despite the power increase

    • @jayevans7737
      @jayevans7737 Рік тому +4

      @@egonzalezm If I remember they've done diesel to hydrogen conversions with just a few attachments

  • @graemebelle7427
    @graemebelle7427 2 роки тому +81

    As a car guy I really enjoyed your content. I've been working on internal combustion engines for 40 years, and it was great to get your insight into what the future will bring.
    Thanks so much

    • @JoaoSilva-bh3de
      @JoaoSilva-bh3de 2 роки тому +5

      and dont forget with hydrogen back fire is easier :)

    • @mirafioristi
      @mirafioristi 2 роки тому +3

      @@JoaoSilva-bh3de I am a bit confused about the advantage in burning speed. All my knowledge points that you cannot make power with fast burning vapors in a combustion engine. There is no point in fast igniting when we are near TDC. What you need, is a fuel that still burns and produces more pressure when piston is in optimum angle, about 50% down.
      That is why nitromethane makes so much power, it burns slower than gasoline. And vapors in general burn 3x faster than gasoline, only some 10-20% of piston travel.
      So i assume that hydrogen engine cannot make significant power without reducing the speed of combustion. I understand that in racing they use water injection, but naturally that is not viable in street use.
      GM claims to bring hydrogen-combustion truck engine soon. But in the presentation if you reed between the lines, they still have not resolved this issue. And there is no guarantee that they ever will.

    • @chrisperry1756
      @chrisperry1756 2 роки тому +7

      With these gas prices I’m wanting to convert my 454 1 ton to hydrogen 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @eone2345
      @eone2345 2 роки тому

      @@mirafioristi you can actually control that in your ignition timing, retard or advanced depending on your setup

    • @jannis-joelfehl4855
      @jannis-joelfehl4855 Рік тому +1

      @Off The Grid What is the problem witch implemention on both hydrogen and evs?

  • @minimin0425
    @minimin0425 4 роки тому +624

    I should get some sort of diploma from watching every Engineering Explained videos. 🤣

    • @viniciusschadeck2204
      @viniciusschadeck2204 4 роки тому +22

      you need to learn not just listen and forget after a day or so

    • @martinkuliza
      @martinkuliza 4 роки тому +5

      you don't get a diploma
      YOU GET A MARS BAR
      :P

    • @longboarderebright
      @longboarderebright 3 роки тому +2

      @@martinkuliza ive heard of those they still exist?

    • @martinkuliza
      @martinkuliza 3 роки тому +1

      @@longboarderebright What ?? You've HEARD OF THEM huh ?
      HAHAHA
      wow
      of course they exist mate, you go to the local shop and you pick one up.
      Where do you live ? that they appear to be in short supply
      i'm in Australia

    • @nathan40307
      @nathan40307 3 роки тому +6

      Or least a college credit. You learn way more here than most colleges

  • @tips4truckers252
    @tips4truckers252 5 років тому +1159

    White board got bigger after 2 million subs.
    After 3 million subs will the white board be like those chalk boards are universities that have a rolling ladder?

    • @GilbertoMadeira83
      @GilbertoMadeira83 5 років тому +63

      4M and we can have a big auditorium.

    • @chelarestelar
      @chelarestelar 5 років тому +29

      @@GilbertoMadeira83 live lessons from Jason haha. I would go.

    • @mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489
      @mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 5 років тому +31

      I just saw that he only has 2M subs while PewDiePie has 75M. What's wrong with this world...

    • @roguepathfinder2477
      @roguepathfinder2477 5 років тому +2

      Chevy SparkEV you meant “almost 78 mil subscribers”, right?

    • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
      @rightwingsafetysquad9872 5 років тому +24

      @@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 Most people aren't smart enough to understand these white board videos.

  • @mkckfrancis2
    @mkckfrancis2 Рік тому +20

    I am not skilled from a chemistry perspective, but this was the best video I've seen that clearly explains the difference without too much technical complexity. Well done. Thank you

  • @genedavis759
    @genedavis759 2 роки тому +12

    Great stuff as always ! I always want to know pro's and cons of alternatives and you do that very well . Thanks !

  • @uwekonnigsstaddt524
    @uwekonnigsstaddt524 5 років тому +231

    Excellent!!!! The only person that I know that can have 15 pages of text in engineering in a video less than 15 minutes long. Very dense content. With a whiteboard on the background? Priceless....

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +11

      Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!!

    • @natedavis5574
      @natedavis5574 5 років тому +1

      How does running lean reduces Nox if you run lean on a gasoline engine Nox will increases because of heat not decrease. Is there a difference between Hydrogen engines

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 5 років тому +3

      @@natedavis5574 The activation energy to break the simple H2 bond is VERY low, and the reason Hydrogen gas is dangerous in quantity; the activation energy to break the C-H bond is higher, so because ignition temperature is lower, more oxygen reacts with Hydrogen than happens with Octane or other hydrocarbons. 2H2 + O2 => 2H2O is a much lower 'energy hill' to get over than with hydrocarbon combustion, so less of the triple N2 bonds are broken and less NOx is formed; make sense?

    • @natedavis5574
      @natedavis5574 5 років тому +2

      @@HuntingTarg thanks for the education

    • @sasjadevries
      @sasjadevries 5 років тому +7

      @@HuntingTarg If it's lean it means there is excess oxygen that can (potentially) react with nitrogen. (Don't claim a lean hydrogen burn has NO NOX at all, it it's not lean enough it will have nox for sure) Whether that happens pretty much depends on the temperature.
      H2+O2=H20 and N2+O2=NOX are 2 separate reactions, if O2+N2 get hot enough they will form NOx.
      The thing where hydrogen and petrol differ is this: when an lpg, cng, diesel, petrol, etc engine is running rich it means more liquid fuel will turn into a gas (this is why water injection reduces emissions) and if you inject too much fuel then there is no oxygen left to marry the nitrogen. If you run lean obviously the opposite is happening.
      For hydrogen engines the max flame temperature 2600°C is achieved at a stochiometric a/f mixture; the zeldovich reaction (N2+O/N+O2=nox) usually occurs above 1600°C, but it does occur below that temp as well under certain conditions. When a hydrogen a/f mixture is leaner it will burn cooler because there is less fuel(less energy) that has to heat up the same volume (all the gasses inside your reaction chamber).
      Hydrogen is already a gas, so when hydrogen burns there is no liquid that needs to boil, and boiling is an endothermic reaction. Even simpler said: it takes energy to turn a liquid into a gas, and when you inject water or inject extra diesel/petrol into your engine it's extra liquid that sucks up heat.
      Lean petrol runs hotter than stochiometric petrol, lean hydrogen runs cooler than stochiometric hydrogen. That's the difference.

  • @easymac79
    @easymac79 5 років тому +164

    10:13 "Thermal event" I love how you describe "fire" at first. Highest geek level achieved..

    • @chrisnewman7281
      @chrisnewman7281 4 роки тому +1

      Engineer would call it ignition, because there’s a quick flash with no flame present

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 4 роки тому +6

      ​@@chrisnewman7281 There's always a flame, you just need a slow motion camera to see it.

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 4 роки тому +10

      That's what I will call my farts from now on

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 4 роки тому +5

      Politicians in Australia will start referring to climate fires as thermal events to play down the seriousness of it all haha

    • @Dreihme
      @Dreihme 4 роки тому +2

      @@chrisnewman7281 I worked in automotive engineering for one of the Big 3 for many years. We were more or less required to called it a "thermal event", especially in written documentation and correspondence for reasons that, believe it or not, were required by the legal department. This is very important to protect intellectual property in the event of a law suit or recall. Better to say, "the brake test data does not meet the engineering criteria", rather than, "the brakes fade too quickly and are dangerous"

  • @atombaum26
    @atombaum26 2 роки тому +6

    The way you always integrate the mathematics into the science of your videos makes you one of the few credible sources on the internet. Thank you for that.

  • @Mcfreddo
    @Mcfreddo 2 роки тому +1

    You're so good at what you do, it's such a pleasure to learn from you man!

  • @Dan_AYP
    @Dan_AYP 5 років тому +217

    Hydrogen be like "I NEVER KNOCKED ON NOBODY!"

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +28

      And you know what! It was YOU!

    • @Dan_AYP
      @Dan_AYP 5 років тому +7

      Haha love it! Thanks for the reply man, means a lot. You're one of the reasons I'm creating on UA-cam myself on my own channel! Always loved your work man, please check out mine, any criticism or advice would be warmly welcomed! 👍

    • @starvalkyrie
      @starvalkyrie 5 років тому +3

      Lol... it's funny that at this point this is a dated reference. I wonder how many people got it. It still works out of context so I'm not sure I can just count the likes.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 роки тому +4

      The big problem with hydrogen is fuel leaks. Hydrogen will leak through steel tanks with little difficulty. It also tends to form bubbles under overhanging roofs unless they are vented.
      This means that any enclosed space around a hydrogen tank will have hydrogen present, the wide air fuel ratio will mean the gas mixture will be explosive (the absolute lower explosive limit being about 1.5% hydrogen in air).
      This translates as having to make the interior of the car a legally defined electrical hazardous area, requiring all the wiring to be either explosion proof or intrinsically safe.

    • @tombombadil3185
      @tombombadil3185 4 роки тому +1

      @@allangibson8494 Perhaps you didn't know, more house fires that are not arson are started by an electrical short in a car in an attached garage than anything else. Ask your insurance agent why attached garages increase premium cost. Also, spilled gasoline fumes will hug the ground without air stirring. H2 will 'float' away if vented. But yeah, hydrogen is much more difficult to contain.

  • @dmfraser1444
    @dmfraser1444 4 роки тому +124

    It is nice to get this stuff at least at a basic university level and not dumbed down. As an engineer I find videos like this do a good job of explaining just short a deep dive into high level math. With the objection to that is that it would really limit your audience. This is a good balance between going all the way into it while explaining enough. On the other hand need for the chemistry is a given these days for this level of video. Overall, a really good well balanced job

    • @dominicancheif117
      @dominicancheif117 2 роки тому

      Balanced, hehe

    • @lp115lp
      @lp115lp 2 роки тому +12

      Just proves one needn't delve too deeply into the higher maths to convey physics and chemistry. It's important to understand the 'mechanics' of processes before being thrown to the lions of calculus.
      As Einstein said: “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

  • @davidcross3611
    @davidcross3611 2 роки тому +6

    Great video! Very well done and easy to understand. I did get the impression that control of the comparison leaned a bit toward gas and that naturally aspirated engines might not be the best vehicle for comparison also I would like to see an actual real world rundown comparing emissions of gasoline, nitrogen and LP

  • @davidstryhanyn6059
    @davidstryhanyn6059 3 роки тому +2

    You really took the topic cars and made it into a science i love how you explain these things man !

  • @TechTimeWithEric
    @TechTimeWithEric 5 років тому +249

    I love all your videos, but the whiteboard videos are my favorite. I've been a subscriber since the inline 6 whiteboard video.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +17

      That's a while back, thanks for sticking around!! :)

    • @patrickwatkins7572
      @patrickwatkins7572 5 років тому +2

      @@EngineeringExplained oh im so trying this tomorrow, - hho video up by friday ;-)

    • @kdouglaslee
      @kdouglaslee 5 років тому +1

      Came to the comments to say the same thing, I haven't been around quite as long but I was just thinking the other day about your more recent videos -- I do like them quite a bit, but the whiteboard videos are my favs.

    • @TechTimeWithEric
      @TechTimeWithEric 5 років тому +4

      I'm a total dork, I LOVE all the engineering nerd talk and information that you generally will not get anywhere else.

    • @junoguten
      @junoguten 5 років тому +1

      I gotta say though, the transition to his new V8 whiteboard is much appreciated.

  • @BuhlouBear
    @BuhlouBear 4 роки тому +99

    I appreciate you the time invested in producing this video, thank you.

    • @andyxox4168
      @andyxox4168 2 роки тому

      I appreciate that he gets paid for it so I understand that your appreciation is somewhat misplaced .. 🤑🤑🤑

  • @alanchidley2745
    @alanchidley2745 2 роки тому +4

    Outstanding lesson. You never cease to amaze me.

  • @edwardneal4819
    @edwardneal4819 Рік тому

    Thanks man! I've been curious about Hydrogen as fuel for internal combustion engines for a long time and you just answered a boatload of (important) questions I never knew existed.

  • @itsalgud1459
    @itsalgud1459 5 років тому +130

    Jason, when I opened up your video this morning and saw the crowded whiteboard behind you, I almost turned off my iPad and went back to bed!😆
    Seriously, another excellent, succinct lesson on rather complicated subject. You are the number one source for this aging, retired engineer/car guy on modern automotive technology!😃 I can’t tell you how much I enjoy watching your videos. 👍

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +7

      Thank you so much for watching!! :)

    • @AndreAndFriends
      @AndreAndFriends 5 років тому +1

      Who said retired engineer? There is no such a thing sir.
      If you need, I'll be glad to have you file some patents. I'm sure you can type? Or do voice to text? Stay sharp. All the best.

    • @AndreAndFriends
      @AndreAndFriends 5 років тому

      @FAWEXX don't get me started on German cars.

    • @itsalgud1459
      @itsalgud1459 5 років тому +1

      PolskaWalczaca
      😆

    • @AndreAndFriends
      @AndreAndFriends 5 років тому

      @@itsalgud1459 👍🍺

  • @corynorell3686
    @corynorell3686 5 років тому +175

    Had to click when I saw that whiteboard in the preview.

  • @calebgriffiths9062
    @calebgriffiths9062 Місяць тому

    Absolutely love the fast paced presentation. Covered the bases so quickly and yet totally understandable. Brilliant! Thanks

  • @CalinDee
    @CalinDee 3 роки тому +1

    While not the focus of the video, at all, I think that was one of the best explanations of engine knock and its relation to octane that Ive seen around... Most 'car guy' vids manage to present it in either an extremely confusing, or flat out incorrect way. Nicely done!

  • @KingBoneezee
    @KingBoneezee 4 роки тому +262

    This is like the opposite of being exposed to lead at an early age

    • @lorenzhartl8466
      @lorenzhartl8466 4 роки тому +6

      What?

    • @cukka99
      @cukka99 3 роки тому +26

      @@lorenzhartl8466 Being exposed to lead at an early age stunts intellectual development. This channel does the opposite.

    • @Christopher_1775
      @Christopher_1775 2 роки тому

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  • @PNH-sf4jz
    @PNH-sf4jz 3 роки тому +1

    Always enjoy your explanations, thank you. Cheers, Peter

  • @dragrace4fun
    @dragrace4fun Рік тому

    As always, to the point and greatly put together and explained. Now subscribed, brother, as I've seen a few of yours pop up and learned about a bunch in all of them, to include your video breaking down EV vs gasoline engineering.

  • @djguydan
    @djguydan 5 років тому +103

    Diffusivity is the word of the day!

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +15

      Use it with a friend, a teacher, a parent! Diffuse away!

    • @SirtubalotTX
      @SirtubalotTX 5 років тому +1

      As long as it doesn't have anything to do with farts diffusing...

    • @azopene
      @azopene 5 років тому +1

      In order for farts to effective they must diffuse.

    • @azopene
      @azopene 5 років тому +1

      "to be effective'

    • @SirtubalotTX
      @SirtubalotTX 5 років тому +1

      @@azopene lol. Indeed.

  • @bobjones1885
    @bobjones1885 5 років тому +50

    I love the fact you hardly ever repeat yourself

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +9

      Thanks bob! I try to only if it seems necessary. Easy to play it back, after all. :)

    • @kutzbill
      @kutzbill 5 років тому +1

      As a retired Engineer, and having sat through more meetings than any person should have had to, it's a rare trait. Great job.
      PS, an actual argument between two PhD's, "Did not," "Did too!" "Did not!" "Did too!"
      I got looks of distain because I'd sit in the corner and laugh.

  • @petriepretorius4085
    @petriepretorius4085 2 роки тому

    like always, GREAT CONTENT!! Thank you so much for your efforts on producing these highly informative videos...

  • @howardlake6178
    @howardlake6178 2 роки тому +9

    Absolutely brilliant. So many points, so well explained. One question. The NOx, is it higher than a Diesel engine? Oh, 2 questions! Is it possible to collect the NOx, in a device such as a catalytic converter, or diesel particulate filter? Thanks 😀

  • @phillipdale6765
    @phillipdale6765 5 років тому +47

    Jason excellent as always..im requesting all my children watch all your videos ..great educational tools...i try and explain these concepts to them..they think im a mad man....your videos help them understand and appreciate the concepts. .excellent. thank you

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +7

      Thanks for sharing with your kids Phillip! Hopefully they're not too bored with them haha.

    • @phillipdale6765
      @phillipdale6765 5 років тому +2

      @@EngineeringExplained you do a great job..!!

    • @mlt6322
      @mlt6322 Рік тому

      @@EngineeringExplained So what would happen to the NO2 level and the combustion process if you added a typical nitrous plate below the throttle body and instead of injecting Nitrous oxide you injected a spray of water to cool the burn? Would it help lower the temp and lower the NO2 in the exhaust?

  • @darmou
    @darmou 4 роки тому +224

    With Hydrogen you can still step on the gas :)

    • @JamesUKE92
      @JamesUKE92 3 роки тому +22

      With hydrogen you can actually step on the gas. Petrol is a liquid under standard conditions, so no idea why some people keep referring to it as a “gas”. 🤣

    • @RichardRhal1
      @RichardRhal1 3 роки тому +55

      @@JamesUKE92 Because in the states it is called gasoline not petrol.

    • @bluelichen9696
      @bluelichen9696 3 роки тому +2

      Tonight I'll fly

    • @EtheralDreamer
      @EtheralDreamer 3 роки тому +4

      @@JamesUKE92 because it atomizes before ignition?

    • @borysnijinski331
      @borysnijinski331 3 роки тому +1

      Can you with a diesel?

  • @stevelowale9902
    @stevelowale9902 2 роки тому +1

    Jason,Your an excellent professor and your a professional teacher. Thanks for your time..!

  • @clivewinters7479
    @clivewinters7479 2 роки тому

    That was a great presentation, expertly explained, about the best I’ve heard on this subject. Thank you

  • @sumcalme_miller3363
    @sumcalme_miller3363 5 років тому +137

    As all ways, White board skills are on point

  • @scarea2691
    @scarea2691 5 років тому +184

    Impressive like to view ratio

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +12

      Yeah, UA-cam's algorithm is a bit choppy today, so unfortunately the video didn't get pushed out much. There were basically zero views for an hour or so on UA-cam, and I happened to schedule my video during that window (I post the same time every week haha).

    • @bleebleblahble8833
      @bleebleblahble8833 5 років тому +1

      Engineering Explained Is this a Honda Clarity review teaser?

    • @scarea2691
      @scarea2691 5 років тому

      @@bleebleblahble8833 He wouldn't say that haha.

  • @williamdowling7718
    @williamdowling7718 Рік тому

    Wow... Your subtle little hand motion that accompanied your mention of a 4 stroke engine was what finally made it click in my head... I finally understand what that means.. And I can't believe I've been unsure about that for so long... It's so much simpler than I made it in my head.

  • @poovaneswaransupramaniam19
    @poovaneswaransupramaniam19 3 роки тому

    Cool video E/E...as usual amazing informative video...keep up the good work

  • @r.o.5594
    @r.o.5594 3 роки тому +3

    Very well explained! I liked it a lot! You have condensed in 14 mins the foundatios of a large part of my PhD thesis!
    Continue doing so interesting videos :)

  • @Papa-zh4ym
    @Papa-zh4ym 4 роки тому +3

    Love your talks about the many topics very informative and easy to follow this one of my favorite channels

  • @paullevers1095
    @paullevers1095 3 роки тому

    Awesome delivery. Very easy to understand. A great education. Thank you. Kind regards Paul 🇬🇧

  • @siddharthbhasker208
    @siddharthbhasker208 3 роки тому

    HI i actually love your channel
    as it clears my doubts in seconds

  • @akdomun
    @akdomun 5 років тому +4

    Beautiful! I'm glad you explained all this and cleared the many myths around this topic.

  • @TheDemiVis
    @TheDemiVis 4 роки тому +15

    I'd love a video on hydrogen combustion vs hydrogen fuel cell.
    I'm sure it'll end up being similar to your EV vs ICE video, but I'm sure there are subtlties there that are worth explaining/exploring

  • @artco77
    @artco77 Рік тому

    Excellent. Keep up the good work.. Pounding away on a subject that few of us understand.

  • @egonzalezm
    @egonzalezm Рік тому

    this was very clear cut and straightforward; thank you!!

  • @ilyayaremkevych4354
    @ilyayaremkevych4354 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the splendid presentation, you've helped me a lot!

  • @randallcromer66
    @randallcromer66 5 років тому +13

    Wow, I had no idea exactly how comply the modern engine was. But you did a amazing job of explaining it. Thank's for all your time and effort in making this video, I appreciate it because it has totally changed the way I see my car's engine. I'm glad I found your channel and I did subscribe to it, please keep up the AWESOME work and I'll keep coming back for more.

  • @Boerikoe
    @Boerikoe 3 роки тому

    Excellent overview of the differences - TOP ! Thank you.

  • @TrueDrezzer
    @TrueDrezzer 2 роки тому

    thanks, I really learned a lot about this fuel type; good way of explaining!!

  • @mea01132001
    @mea01132001 5 років тому +3

    Out of all topics concerning mechanics this is my favorite. Very nice comparative breakdown. Thank you

  • @TheKoki4
    @TheKoki4 4 роки тому +3

    I really like your educational approach and dedication to teaching! Along with my Automotive engineering studies, you are helping immensely to develop even a reacher knowledge filament! Thank you!

  • @canative2468
    @canative2468 3 роки тому

    Thank you for a great video, I learned a lot, please keep them coming

  • @veesoho93
    @veesoho93 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the info, i can't help but feeling a bias or a lack of neutrality, buvin genral great info

  • @TupmaniaTurning
    @TupmaniaTurning 5 років тому +4

    Beautifully explained - I learnt something today! 👍🏻

  • @joedance14
    @joedance14 4 роки тому +3

    Thank-you, that was very informative. Always enjoy your presentations.

  • @Heraclitean
    @Heraclitean Рік тому +1

    That was so clear and well explained. Thank you.

  • @staninjapan07
    @staninjapan07 3 роки тому

    Wow, what a great job you did with this. Thanks.

  • @rodrigocastillo872
    @rodrigocastillo872 5 років тому +5

    Hey man, what a great video, thank you for sharing this knowledge

  • @dimdiminside
    @dimdiminside 5 років тому +91

    When i start this video and see those white board, you know something about to get serious. Great video, i love it.

  • @giovannisegat4447
    @giovannisegat4447 2 роки тому

    thank you very much for the explanation!
    can you recommend specific articles where they are explained in writing?
    it is for a thesis research

  • @nunyabinniss201
    @nunyabinniss201 2 роки тому +3

    Good stuff. I was hoping for info on water vapor as a by-product and it's effects on engine oil due to natural blow-by of the piston rings. Also 'steam cleaning' effects on any oil on the cylinder walls and how it may effect ring lubrication. A stainless exhaust would be mandatory too.

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator Рік тому +1

      Gasoline and diesel already produce water in combustion, and yes, exhausts should be stainless by law, I think.

  • @rishi5134
    @rishi5134 5 років тому +61

    I am pursuing automobile engineering and your videos help me a lot. Keep posting such content.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому +5

      Glad you enjoy the content, and best of luck in the engineering world!

    • @gasdive
      @gasdive 5 років тому

      It's just slightly disturbing that the next generation of engineers is learning from UA-cam

    • @sand0decker
      @sand0decker 5 років тому +2

      @@gasdive why? They would have learned a lot from the people around them before. So long as they look into what they are trying to implement more before they do it (to fix any misconceptions), this is ok

    • @HoosierDaddy_
      @HoosierDaddy_ 5 років тому +3

      Keep learning from several sources. It's just another tool in your arsenal. Good luck.

  • @didntwanttocreateachannelj2380
    @didntwanttocreateachannelj2380 5 років тому +55

    "Crackpots" have been using hydrogen/oxygen mixes to ignite very lean gasoline/air mixes for years. The high combustion velocity of hydrogen makes lean gas/air mixtures burn fast and complete enough to be useful.

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 4 роки тому

      yeah but that's just an ignition supplement. It's not the main fuel source, it also cannot be. It just makes the burn more efficient

    • @carlosandleon
      @carlosandleon 4 роки тому

      You're talking about HHO are you?

    • @BigUriel
      @BigUriel 4 роки тому +10

      Problem is they're using gasoline to drive an alternator with about 50% efficiency to make that hydrogen which improves the engine's efficiency by 2% lol

    • @Beeonnet-ur4ul
      @Beeonnet-ur4ul 4 роки тому +1

      I was experimenting with HHO for years.... Then I bought a M3P. Farewell H2....

    • @787brx8
      @787brx8 4 роки тому +1

      Advancing ignition timing, once I reduced engine knock is more promising than using hydrogen. This gives more time for each combustion event, resulting in more power and better efficiency.
      Too bad, I am going to scrap/destroy my working anti-knock prototype. Dealing with the auto industry has too many pot holes filled with.... holes.

  • @John-gj9db
    @John-gj9db 2 місяці тому

    I e been a mechanic 40 years and this is the best tutorial I’ve ever watched. Thanks for posting this 😊

  • @championapp
    @championapp 3 роки тому

    Damn, you're good! I'm 55 and am amazed at your equations and explanations of them. Way to go!

  • @nicolashabash5804
    @nicolashabash5804 4 роки тому +12

    It would be nice to have a summation that included highway efficiency of current Hydrogen cars or cost to run per thousand miles.

  • @arturgrams9189
    @arturgrams9189 5 років тому +11

    You have to do a video about Microwave Ignition (MWI AG). On their website they state it could reduce fuel consumption and emissions up to 30 percent!

  • @markbuehler1265
    @markbuehler1265 2 роки тому

    You are a great educator. Thanks for your efforts.

  • @GGN-92
    @GGN-92 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for these very clear explanations.
    Take care of yourself.

  • @nealarcher1970
    @nealarcher1970 5 років тому +25

    Exquisitely orchestrated, bravo to you sir!! This was quite beautifully put together

  • @gabmik38
    @gabmik38 4 роки тому +16

    This young man is awesome in explaining things

  • @kevinsolove458
    @kevinsolove458 Рік тому

    Nice explanations, thanks for most of them.

  • @hermandegroot1946
    @hermandegroot1946 Рік тому

    Exellent presentation, now I know a lot more about H2

  • @timprosser186
    @timprosser186 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent presentation, so thank you.

  • @thrunsguinneabottle3066
    @thrunsguinneabottle3066 5 років тому +92

    Nice euphemistic use of language.
    Last month Notre Dame Cathedral had a "thermal event".

  • @nts0011
    @nts0011 Рік тому

    A very good explanation mate, you doing it good!!

  • @donberg01
    @donberg01 2 роки тому

    Great vid from an engineering perspective, could you do the same presentation W/other combustible fuels?

  • @earlystrings1
    @earlystrings1 4 роки тому +8

    Careful! Thermal events can lead to spontaneous disassembly! Great video.

  • @Gooloso98
    @Gooloso98 5 років тому +4

    Damm great video, well explained. In-depth tutorial!! 👏👏👏

  • @willgeorge5644
    @willgeorge5644 Рік тому

    Great video! is this not the 2nd one you have done on this subject?

  • @thetruth2341
    @thetruth2341 3 роки тому

    Great video! Could you please do a similar one comparing gasoline and methane engines?

  • @daniepretorius6594
    @daniepretorius6594 3 роки тому +22

    Very interesting thank you for this intro. I was just a bit curious whether you could further put flame advance speed into perspective. You mention that the speed is much lower when running lean, but it would be interesting to get a feeling for how much lower. So let's say would it be significantly slower than gasoline if you were to bring it down to for example 180:1?

    • @exploranator
      @exploranator Рік тому +1

      Sounds like timing can be adjusted both with spark timing and mixture proportion.

  • @EugVR6
    @EugVR6 5 років тому +5

    The Brian Cox of internal combustion engineering delivers another great video 😎

  • @abasilioss
    @abasilioss 2 роки тому

    very nice presentation and giving enough information for the fuel cell..it is previously thought that it does not have combustion engine...but you made it clear that there is a combustion but there is no fuel mixture but Hydrogen compressed injected to the pistons

  • @ignasanchezl
    @ignasanchezl Рік тому

    I watched this video a few times before, doing a bit of research on making high power with propane and methane spark ignition internal combustion engines, and I wish you had a video on them.

  • @hasain_ahmed
    @hasain_ahmed 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the video.. Helped me a lot as I'm pursuing automobile engineering.

    • @toddmolloy311
      @toddmolloy311 4 роки тому

      If you're pursuing automotive engineering please throw around the idea of an electromagnetic pulse opposed piston engine :)

  • @3-E
    @3-E 5 років тому +40

    BMW built a hydrogen powered v12 7-series in the mid-2000's. It could be run or gas or hydrogen and I think they made like 100 or so of them.

    • @sebastianm.4632
      @sebastianm.4632 5 років тому +6

      They stopped it due to problems cause by hydrogen. Hydrogen makes most metals brittle over time.

    • @sand0decker
      @sand0decker 5 років тому

      @@sebastianm.4632 most people only keep their car for a few years anyways. I'm surprised the automobile companies don't use hydrogen more to validate that wasteful use.
      I wish I had the time to modify an engine into a hydrogen engine

    • @HuntingTarg
      @HuntingTarg 5 років тому +4

      @@sand0decker
      Hydrogen has its own operating parameters that must be designed for; and again, hydrogen can diffuse into metals under heat and pressure, disrupting their alloy configuration and changing their properties.
      Hydrogen is obnoxiously difficult stuff to work with (what with being a perfect fluid, flammable, combustible, etc; Elon Musk cited the "pain-in-the-@$$ factor" as one of the reasons for switching over to methane-LOX from LH2-LOX), and running a gasoline-designed engine block on H2 can cause more problems than running it on ethanol.

    • @sand0decker
      @sand0decker 5 років тому +1

      @@HuntingTarg I meant that as in a city use vehicle. Most people only go short distances and don't maintain their own vehicle, so as far as they are concerned, less gas is good.
      Just because something is hard to design for doesn't necessarily mean it's not worth the effort.
      I'm not sure, but I think some of our city buses use hydrogen. I think one of them had a logo saying it. It could have been a test item though, I did go to a college in the capital of my country

    • @Harry-TramAnh
      @Harry-TramAnh 5 років тому +2

      @@sand0decker did you really just say people only keep their cars for a few years so we can afford the engine degrading faster?

  • @Based_Is_Best
    @Based_Is_Best 3 роки тому +42

    Do you think metal embrittlement would be an issue with hydrogen?
    Also, do you think direct injection of pure O2 instead of naturally aspirating could offset some of the downsides of using H in an ICE? (ignoring, momentarily, the risks of putting a pure fuel and pure oxidizer in close proximity to each other..)
    Finally, great video! 👍

    • @annekecornee
      @annekecornee 2 роки тому

      How do you want to extract the O2 from the air that enters the engine?

    • @justinweatherford8129
      @justinweatherford8129 2 роки тому +2

      @@annekecornee very likely by using a liquid oxygen tank, but that would increase weight and reduce efficiency.

    • @seanb3516
      @seanb3516 2 роки тому +12

      Yup, Hydrogen Embrittlement was exactly what I was wondering about. I also realized this is a big problem for Fuel Cell vehicles as well. During ignition and burn at high pressure there certainly would be a tiny amount of high temp ionized hydrogen atoms. These would work their way into almost anything. Glad to see someone else thought of this as well.

    • @brucefrank6119
      @brucefrank6119 2 роки тому +5

      And much like the hydrogen, the Oxygen will be expensive to obtain, but as a by product of the hydrogen production. BTW, electrolysis of water about equals the energy obtained by the combustion of H₂ and O₂. and that energy will still come from remote power stations burning hydrocarbons, with greater than 50% energy loss in transmission.

    • @seanb3516
      @seanb3516 2 роки тому

      @@brucefrank6119 Oxygen is a byproduct of Electrolysis of Water to produce Hydrogen However...Most Hydrogen Is Produced By Steam Reformation of Methane. As I understand it the products of Steam Reformation are Hydrogen and CO2 (or it could be just Carbon. Been a while since I did the studying). As for Electrolysis being equal in energy consumption to the amount of energy produced by burning H2 and O2 I believe you will find Electrolysis to be less efficient. Also it is important that we don't confuse Thermal Watts with Electrical Watts. They are very different in terms of looking at efficiencies. As for transmission losses...sheeeeee...don't get me started!

  • @albertocordova5591
    @albertocordova5591 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for your very clear explanation.

  • @YaketyYakDontTalkBack
    @YaketyYakDontTalkBack 5 років тому +5

    Yes. I'm so excited for this video. Haven't even watched it yet. But I'm glad he's talking about hydrogen. Don't know if it will be about ice or fuel cell but I'm here for it.

    • @EngineeringExplained
      @EngineeringExplained  5 років тому

      Engines! Hoping that makes it clear it's about combustion, and the thumbnail haha. :)

  • @WifeBTR123
    @WifeBTR123 5 років тому +18

    I have a question about box #4.
    A lean hydrogen mixture burns slower than stoich hydrogen. Does the lean H2 burn faster than stoich gasoline?

    • @MultiPleaser
      @MultiPleaser 4 роки тому +2

      If the second drawing is accurate, then yes.

  • @ronchappel4812
    @ronchappel4812 Рік тому

    I love this kind of explainer! Rapid fire info all the way!

  • @robertorestrepo2335
    @robertorestrepo2335 10 місяців тому

    GREAT EXPLANATION. THANK YOU.

  • @ScottyPilot
    @ScottyPilot 3 роки тому +6

    I enjoy your video's and you put so much energy into them, thanks.. In Australia we use a reasonable amount of Liquefied Petroleum Gas / propane to fuel some of our passenger and business vehicles and I would be interested in the comparison between those or even compressed natural gas to give a gas v gas type of comparison.. This isn't a criticism by the way... love your work..!!

    • @eddiej.2354
      @eddiej.2354 2 роки тому +2

      I'd like to see this as well.

  • @user-wn3cw6fq7p
    @user-wn3cw6fq7p 5 років тому +16

    Watching the video 24 hours later i got a question in ICE exam about the difference between gasoline and hydrogen engines
    THANK YOU ENGINEERING EXPLAINED

  • @TheSunseeker007
    @TheSunseeker007 Рік тому

    Now I understand a lot more about Hydrogen and the difference of gasoline in combustion ! Thank you for your great video !!!

  • @georgeanthony9481
    @georgeanthony9481 Рік тому

    Simple and easy to understand. Thankyou very much!

  • @BobMcCoy
    @BobMcCoy 5 років тому +546

    *_Elon Musk has left the chat_*

    • @Sickboyfriend
      @Sickboyfriend 5 років тому +27

      Not really, H2 is still subject to fuel transportation limitation. You need H2 station infrastructure that is orders of magnitude more expensive than charging stations.
      Charging station infrastructures are not that bad in U.S. anymore, but H2 station infractructure is almost non-existent.

    • @DrummerBoii1411
      @DrummerBoii1411 5 років тому +23

      Han and the best companies to do that are Petronas, Shell. They already have an infrastructure that can be modified and scaled for hydrogen for not much cost. But as soon a they spend and start selling they’ll most likely gain back what they spent and still profit as usual. Smaller companies will struggle but it’s still feasible

    • @triggermovies
      @triggermovies 5 років тому +33

      @@DrummerBoii1411 If I remember correctly, the problem with H2 isn't just the infrastructure cost, it's also the production. With today's technology, H2 production is less efficient than lithium batteries.

    • @hyric8927
      @hyric8927 5 років тому +5

      @@Sickboyfriend -- I think HFCEVs could work for applications other than passenger vehicles. In cases where refueling has to be kept at a minimum in both duration and frequency while uptime has to be maximized, the drawbacks of fuel cells versus batteries start to become an acceptable price to pay. Heavy transport such as buses, cargo trucks and service trucks won't need as much infrastructure investment since only a single H₂ refueling station in a bus depot can provide for that entire fleet. The same can be said about trucks and trains.

    • @Cerberus984
      @Cerberus984 5 років тому +12

      @@triggermovies Lithium has a storage capacity limitation while *excess hydrogen* production could be injected into existing natural gas infrastructure.
      Where deep offshore wind power would be the only ideal source of hydrogen. As doubling of wind speed increases potential energy outout by eight. So a 2 MW wind turbine @ 12 mph wind would make around 16 MW @ 24 mph wind. To clarify, I'm not suggesting electrical cables being ran that far. What I'm proposing is pumping hydrogen that distance as it's cheaper and lighter than running electrical cables far distances.
      Once reaching land half should go towards dedicated hydrogen gas powered turbines for power generation that would recover water from the exhaust stream assisting water management. The remainder should be used for alternative fuel feed stocks such as methane or methanol.
      Sabatier process combines hydrogen + CO2 to produce methane, AKA CNG. Hydrogen + carbon monoxide can be processed to make methanol. Both these processes require heat that should ideally siphon it from existing power generation decreasing cooling tower demand and technically increase power plant efficiency. As it would be considered a combined heat and power generation plant.