Elecom Huge = Gaming TRACKBALL? Bearing replacement / fix / swap
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2018
- I've made this video twice so far because bearings are slippery little devils.
I'm going to show you how to replace the bearings in your Elecom HUGE, tell you what bearings you need, and how to keep from messing the whole thing up.
The Elecom HUGE is 2017's best trackball, but it has a major flaw: The artificial ruby bearings aren't perfectly spherical and are of a low enough grade that they cause a hangup when you try to move the ball at anything but major increments. Here's how to swap the bearings with Ceramics!
To avoid community guidelines strikes, I've decided to include the full description of the auction I used instead of a link to it.
10pc 2.5mm 0.098 inch Ceramic Bearing Balls ZrO2 Zirconia Oxide Ball G5
Instant thumbs up the second you said that you were drunk :D
Lmfao. I think it was like 2pm too. I gotta make more videos :)
Ophid Official for sure. I’m fairly experienced with electronic surgery but I’m positive your video saved me some major aggravation so thanks. Always good to SEE what it looks like before you yank on something.
@@wilson113388 Agreed- I just lost 40 pounds for the same reason. Ayyyyy
Just fitted some new 2.5mm bearings and I now have the perfect trackball. thanks for this.
For anyone watching, I can verify this process is correct
If you have the wired version though, the main back plate(where his batteries are) screw is actually under a sticker that appears initially as a matt plate
Pop a hole in the word "made" in made in China before you pry it open to remove final screw.
Side note, you will not transfer from the Logitech m to this easily
I literally came to the comments for this information cause I couldn't get it apart lmao THANK YOU
This comment saved me some headache. Thanks!!!
lol. the Made hidden screw omg
what kind of torx screwdriver set do we need
figured this out the hard way - SMH. shoulda read the comments....
Thanks for this. Got my Elecom HUGE today and had to make two holes on the bottom plate to fit it to my chair armrest. You help people even after 5 years. Take pride in that!
Important note from 2020-I just did this tutorial and it's fantastic. Great job explaining most things. One important note-take care to make sure your "low/mid/high" switch is lined up and working before screwing everything together. I put the trackball back together after the swap and the action of the ball was much better. But I noticed the sensitivity switch was hitched up; I figured it was out of alignment. I tried to move it and snapped the underlying tab which connected it to the part of the board which toggles the sensitivity.
Not a huge deal because I have two of these trackballs and I know better for next time. But it's still annoying because I screwed up. Don't do what I did. Make sure the action on the sensitivity switch is in a good spot. Mine is stuck on "high" now, but that's fine since I can always set it lower and tweak the settings beyond what I'd need in either direction. But I imagine other people use this feature and won't be okay with it being broken.
Still-best tutorial on the net for this. Thanks a million for posting it. And I decided to be drunk when I did it too. Which should be a tradition I guess. Just check that damn switch before you go yanking on it like I did.
excellent information. uploader should pin this
Upvote x 100000. I just broke mine off. :(
@@ericreeves-hashicorp Sorry buddy. If it's any consolation, you can set the switch manually and then change the sensitivity in software from there. I hope you didn't use the toggle day-to-day.
@@Wondershock I actually never touched the switch, so it's not a big deal at all. Still glad I did the bearing swap! It felt like there was a bit of a "break-in" period for the first few hours, but it feels much smoother now!
@@ericreeves-hashicorp 100%, totally worth it. Glad to hear it worked out, even with the little snafu.
I do not even own a trackball yet, still I am watching this
What luck that you published this video containing all the info I need to replace the bearings in my trackball ON THE DAY I NEEDED IT.
Thank you!
I'm glad it helped someone!
Two years later... The day has come again! Thanks sir! .... And they do have it on prime now! 2.5mm Steel!
7x T6 screws on the bottom; 1 in the battery compartment, 6 under the foot pads
2x PH1 screws inside the ball cup
2x PH0 screws holding the sensor board
3x PH0 screws holding the ball cup together
just in case you want to make sure you have the proper drivers before starting.
Thank you :)
Brilliant tutorial, not my comfort zone doing stuff like this, but thought I'd give it a go, so bought the Huge and some ceramic bearings. Luckily were on Prime next day. Followed it step by step and worked brilliantly. I now have an even better trackball. Silky smooth and no screws left over. BONUS :) Great job! Thank you :)
Thanks for this video!! Just bought the Huge and what the hell it still has this problem. It's a good job I had just bought my first trackball MX Ergo which is incredibly silky smooth and was so pleased I wanted to try a finger ball. Good job the Huge didn't come first or I may have given up on trackerballs. Pity Elecom has not put this right.
Thanks for the update, I was considering checking out the newest batch but I think I'll keep waiting
Just used your video to replace the bearings. Very smooth. Thanks.
Just fixed mine and the only speedbump I had was finding where the top cable needed to rest while reassembling. I figured it out though and it. feels. amazing.
10/10 guide.
Also works for the wired version of the device, there's just an extra cable inside that only gets a little bit in the way.
super helpful video! Just to add for those with the wired mouse, the last screw is under the big Fcc mark in the pretty much dead center of the mouse.
This video was...perfect. Precise instructions, clear images, plus humor. I haven't operated on my HUGE yet...but the principles shown here allowed me to upgrade my Deft Pro. Note for the Deft Pro - the primary difference/challenge is once the top cover is removed the "cup" assembly needs to be separated from the base. There are three locking tabs - a large one on the right and two small ones on the left. The forward left tab is a royal PITA - you need a very stiff small flat screwdriver to press it inwards (after releasing the other two first). One more gotcha - having removed all the screws from under the rubber feet (none under the top or the ring, one each on left & right, but THREE on the bottom) there is also one screw hiding under the label. Trying to peel the label would probably tear it - so I just pierced straight through with the screwdriver (it's under the letters SN). It's then a little finicky lifting up and separating the top half - even more so when putting back together - but still doable with patience. I finally have a usable trackball - why the F$#! does Elecom use such garbage bearings when they're using quality components elsewhere (I actually saw the Omron and Kailh switches inside!)?
I performed this surgery today on my wired version to install uxcell 2.5mm ceramic balls from Amazon Prime. The screws were the same but except unfortunately I had to mutilate the main sticker a bit to get the equivalent of the one under the battery door. Oh well, I'd already decided I wasn't returning it. I didn't needed to remove the ribbon cables. Post surgery, it's a lot better. Thanks!
Why did I watch the full 20 minutes when I don't own or plan to buy this trackball? Great video, that's why.
I saw this video at least 6 months ago, and kept putting the changeout off. Just finished it tonight. Your video made the project as simple as it will get. I can't believe the difference the ceramic bearings make! When you say it feels like a Kensington, you aren't kidding! Thanks for all the pointers (especially the tape)!
I did this "downgrade" to fix the jerkiness when attempting to move the trackball from rest position, since it was COMPLETELY unusable for precise movements. After the bearing replacement, there was SOME improvement, but it was still unusable for me. Lubricating did not improve the situation very much, so I left the device alone for a few days. I finally decided to have another go at it, and I found that "breaking it in" by rolling the trackball in all directions for a minute before use FINALLY did the trick! I did try rolling the trackball repeatedly with my fingers, with the device facing right-side-up, but even after a few minutes the jerkiness was still noticeable. The BEST method for me was to turn it upside down and roll the trackball on a mousepad or similar surface, while applying a bit of pressure. I do this every morning for a minute and a half in the left-right, up-down and circular motions, and it the device works ALOT better for the rest of the day. I do throw in some extra breaking-in sessions randomly throughout the day, just to keep it running smoothly. I hope this helps someone!
I appreciate the walkthrough! The rubber pads will adhere back fairly well on their own but you can coax a little more life out of the adhesive with a bit of isopropyl alcohol.
a HUGE thanks for making this video. YOU ARE A LEGEND FOR THIS. i made the switch to zirconium oxide bearings and it made a significant difference.
Thank you very very much ! Your video really help me ! I suffer from this problem for long time ! I nearly give up elecom huge for this problem! You are my hero ! Thank you very very much !
Just completed the replacement of the bearings and could not have done it with out you. Thank you very much.
I want to thank you for your time in making this video. Helped me get it right first time. Many Thanks and have an awesome new year!!!
Perfect video exactly what i needed when i did not even know i needed it. I loved my trackball before but now it is even better. Thank you so much!
3 years later, and this video is still useful. That's outstanding. I just got my huge yesterday, and pre-emptively ordered the bearings with it knowing I'd be doing this. Since they get here tomorrow I figured I'd get an idea on how to disassemble the device before needing the info. I'm glad I did because I didn't realize it's as involved as it it.
I have some minor experience doing teardowns, and had to do so with the Kensington Expert pro wired quite a few times, but it didn't have any ribbon cables. A ton of people sing the expert pro's praises, but mine was defective. The scroll ring would often fail for no reason so I eventually ended up scrapping it. After a while I just went back to gaming mice, but nothing compares to a good trackball when working in photoshop, or a 3D package.
Thank you for the video. The angles were spot on, and easy to see everything needed to, and I love the fact that this was done with more practical tricks for certain things like holding the bearings in place with tape. I made an extra large mouse mat out of tool shelf liner material so it should hold the bearings in place on my desk well. It has a very similar texture pattern to a screen.
great video! A super important tip: DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN THE SILVER INNER BALL CUP SCREWS. You might not even need to replace your bearings... The screws just might be too tight and are keeping the bearings from spinning.
Amazeballs! So much better after replacing the bearings! Thanks for all the tips, made the operation go so smoothly.
Many thanks! After the bearing replacement the performance of the trackball increased to the next level. Indeed it is comparable now to the Kensington Expert Mouse.
just ordered the elecom huge and the replacement bearings thanks to this video! really looking forward to this project!
Update: It works beautifully, took several tries to get the bearings lined up when popping the cup back on but it was relatively painless. next time I will be sure to not drink coffee beforehand and use magnetic tipped screw drivers.
Thank you! After fixed as you showed me, I could move the pointer to the final pixel as I want. Delicate and great change!
thanks a TON man. I'm one of the guys missing the MS TB Explorer for the last 18 years until I tested another (way too small) Elecom Trackball. this one is perfect for me and my 20cm hands. this is heaven - and i love FPSing with it. But just like you said: It's skipping on minute moves - so before getting it YOUR video actually encouraged me to get it and already check for availability of ZrO2 bearings - which are easy to come by on amazon these days. The Trackball arrived today and I instantly fell in love again and ordered the bearings right away. Thanks so very much for all this work sharing this!
For anyone out there that wants to do this mod, read this:
1) Watch out for the 2 FN buttons near the ball (FN1 and FN2), because the wire is pretty fragile. If you happen to detach them, just solder them up again (fairly easy, but tedious as the metal wires are pretty smalll_
2) The bearings are STATIONARY, so they DON'T spin. I found that 1 out of the 3 was not tight enough and the vibration caused by it messed most of the smoothness.
3)Don't expect to have 0 friction, there will always be a small amount, regardless what bearing you mount (because they are stationary)
Thanks for the point no 2. I got a cheapo jelly comb mt50 and one of the bearings kept popping out of the shell and rattle into the body.
Was super worried that I have no way of securing the bearings in the loose shell since they are only press fit.
I end up hotgluing the bearing into the loose holder and glue the other 2 more and I have one solid budget trackball to run daily!
I really don’t think the level of difficulty of this mod is worth the less than perfect benefits this mod produces. My level of anxiety watching him do this was pretty high. 😂 😂
It’s 2021 June 13 and I’ve done mine by watching this video. CHEERS from Japan!
Thanks so much for this! Particularly loved your clever idea to hold onto the other bearings in the baggie, and the "tape on the bearings" trick. Can attest that it's even easier than this video makes it look if you have a level table, a magnetic tray, and a T6/TR6 driver.
Thanks also for popularizing this upgrade to the extent that several Prime fulfillment vendors now carry these bearings!
thanks mate followed your guide and tested correct, no lost bearings and the masking tape on the desk did stop an escapee from jumping off the table to the black void of things never to be found again
Mate, not sure if I said this already, but THANKS MAN! did this, replaced the bearings, and now... Sweeeeeet! Cheers mate! Thanks again!
Thank you so much, good man! This video is realy helpful. I've followed your intstructions and now ball moves much smoother. The result is not ideal, but definitely good
upd: After few days it became ideal.
Thank you so much!! I replaced my bearing with ceramic one (black one) and applied little Krytox 105(which I used for my Keyboard switch lub) on it. Now it is so silky smooth!!
I used G10 2.5mm ZrO2 balls from aliexpress, they are INCREDIBLY smooth. I have a Kensington expert and CST as well, but these bearings make the Huge feel even smoother (though part of it is probably also that the ball is lighter). The CST has a notable grainy feeling, probably because of the metal rollers.
Anyway, thanks for this video, it made this process really easy! I somehow managed to break the wires connecting the Fn1/Fn2 keys to the PCB but resoldering those wasn't so bad. As an additional mod, I added a bunch of iron weights in the free space of the housing.
Are you using any additional lubricant? How broken in is your expert?
Funny, I have used 2 Elecom HUGE trackballs in the last 7 years, and never once found the problem you've addressed. I literally came here after praising my Elecom in another trackball video that was wildly impractical (The trackball had no keys with it and required you to remove your hand from the ball every time you wanted to perform an action). Suffice it to say, it's good to see other users out there who've discovered this amazing and very useful trackball. Glad UA-cam suggested your video to me.
Just did it , I would say if you are careful enough you won't need to unplug the ribbons (i did not have to) neither need of any tape
Just need a clean table with light. Once you are done this is indeed a good upgrade the ball spin with less friction, you should not regret the effort ! Thanks for the tutorial !
I now have both the trackball and the bearings and will attempt this in the next day or so... Thank you for the guide.
Done. First try thanks to this guide.
Works great as well. Thank you so much.
Thanks so much for this video. I've loved my HUGE, but in the last couple months, it's been very sticky. I'd wipe the bearings and they'd be less sticky for about 15 minutes. It was becoming obnoxious. I ordered balls (found some from uxcell on amazon, Prime, although they're backordered for a couple days), but took the risk to open it up and spin the stock synthetic bearings around to a "fresh" side. Taped them up like you suggested to avoid losing any bearings and not having a backup. Just put it back together and it's smoother than I've ever remembered.
I don't know if my environment is especially harsh since I do file metal things at my desk occasionally, but I purchased the mouse 11/21/2018, so I'd estimate that it was noticeably "worn" out in about 16 months.
Another successful ceramic upgrade. Thanks for the tutorial.
I just want to say I'm sorry for your loss of your bearings, hopefully the had another shipment sent out as soon as possible.
Great tutorial. Just completed July 6th, 2020. Works great, and feels like a new mouse!
Very Informative. I went with new white ceramic 2.5 mm. This video will show you how to swap out those red ones for ones that you order. I ordered 2.5mm white ceramic.
Thanks for recognizing the Trackman instead of Logitec's attempt copy attempt. Microsoft's was definitely the best.
^^~~ Just Switched to New Ceramic Balls!!!
It does feel different and smooths out scrolling without sticky spots!
Very helpful pinpointing in designs, too!
Thanks A Lot!~♡♡♡
Without your help I would have returned the mouse for Refund.
Thank you for taking the time to comment! It really makes me smile to see this helping people.
Just did this to my Elecom Deft m-dt2urbk. Worked perfectly. Took a day to get it SUPER smooth. no issues yet! Thanks for this!
Aw thanks man, that gave me a big ol' smile. I'm glad it worked out! What major differences were there with the Deft?
@@subversed The biggest issue with it stock was that the small movements were sticky. Small adjustments were stuttered. No issues now with the new bearings!
@@alexpham095 That's rad! I'm really glad I could help ya out- I've never posted anything like this and the feedback is really good to hear my guy.
were the insides were mostly the same? I've never cracked open a deft before.
@@subversed Pretty much the same. The screws were in the same places on the case. The insides were arranged differently, but its almost the same. The biggest issue was getting case clips apart. Lol fear of breaking it all.
So it was still a bit sticky until after a day of use?
Thanks for this, man. Such a huge improvment.
Thanks very much, I appreciate your taking the time to comment :)
The comments on this video always make me smile because I got to do a thing I was doing anyways, but just threw a camera on, and all these people are all so supportive. Y'all are the best part of UA-cam
Thanks for the video. I recently replaced my bearings and this came in handy.
Thanks for commenting! Always makes me smile that people are still getting helped by this one.
Fuck yeah man! I was just barely miffed at the stiction point on this thing, and I came across this vid on a reddit trawl and I just finished the bearing surgery. This vid was a massive help, and you're a braver man than I getting this underway while drinking haha. I kept the bottle of wine as a celebration for a job well done.
Thank you for making this, it was very informative
thanks a lot for your clear video, i just purchased one and ceramic bearings if I need it.
Great video, my bearings are fine, but needed to tear down the Huge for another reason. The post molded the third button had snapped off.
Awesome video! I preemptively ordered ceramics with my huge, but it's smooth as yours at the end. Not sure if they finally sorted the issues with the rubies, or because I purchased mine inside Japan and they have better quality controls locally, but at least I now have bearings in case they become needed in the future. Thanks for a very detailed teardown and rebuild!
Very nice English easy for a non native like me to understand. Thumbs up!
Thanks for the video! It was extremely helpful.
Nice teardown and mod. Might have to try this one day when I have time very cool
For sure- thanks for the comment! Let me know how it goes! :)
I have 7 white bearings and 3 red ones that I'm happy to gift anyone attempting this audacious improvement.
Sean Canton I might be trying this out soon. Do you still have them?
@@Fishbolls Yes! Idk how you can get me an address in a discreet fashion. :D
TY TY TY for this, it's slightly better now.
:) I'm glad it helped!
great video. before this video was published i had actually disassembled my HUGE to see if there was anything i could do. i wanted to replace the bearings but didn't really know what to get. this helped greatly. while doing this i accidentally broke off the yellow wire off the FN1 and FN2 button board and had to solder it back together, not a big deal though. after the job was done it was a night and day difference in ball movement. it is comparable now to my wife's kensington expert wireless. my daughter has the newer M-DPT1MRXBK deft pro which has the same bearings i might do this to. from my 10 pack, i have... 6 left.
You lost one too, eh? Haha they're so hard to keep from rolling (or bouncing) away. I'm really happy it helped you out my guy! Elecom seems to have a way about them when it comes to making their products mostly serviceable and it's really, really refreshing to see. I can't tell you how many trackball forums and subreddits still believe that the only way to replace bearings is to get the drill out and start gutting holes to replace bearings because people just aren't used to something that's made to be fixable.
Are there any other projects you're putting off that I can maybe make a video about? Always looking for ideas.
I don't have any ideas for more videos at this point, but I do have a question I wonder if you are able to answer. Do you know the difference between the M-HT1DRBK and the M-HT1DRXBK? The 'X' appears to be a 'new' Huge, but I can't find any information about what's different.
Also, update after having new bearings for a couple weeks: The new ceramic bearings are definitely an improvement over the originals, but it is still nowhere near as smooth and easy to move as my daughter's Deft Pro and especially my wife's Kensington Expert. The Expert is so silky smooth its crazy.
@@kevinshumaker3468 my two theories on that: 1. The x indicates wired vs wireless
2. The X is for the japanese version that's compatible with their mobile app, and has native bluetooth without the need for a dongle.
Thanks for making this video for us all!
Thanks for this vid, i changed mine to ceramic g10 and its perfect now. Should be standard.
This was Amusing as hell... loved it. Thumbs up amigo
Thank you very much :)
@@subversed Mine literally arrived as I finished your video lol
Just fixed up my Huge. Took me few hours; was an awesome experience nevertheless!
Great tutorial, amazing beard!
@10:35. I opened it! Fortunately, My working space caught the little buggers from falling/rolling off of the table.
I'm proud of you :)
your advice here was the real youtube magic
While I appreciate the advice about tape or a magnetic tray, I'd like to just step in and advocate for the use of either a dinner tray or cookie sheet any time you're working on small parts. Doing your work on a bare table risks small parts being lost (as you've found out the hard way), and it's also a very quick way to set a project aside if something should come up. It's like a little separate tabletop with a handrail to keep all of your small, headache-inducing parts from falling into Hell.
I use an ice cube tray, way more slots and they are often rounded at the bottom so you can scoop stuff out of them.
You'd be very happy to know that all of these bearings are available on Prime now.
I took a leap of faith and bought some G5 3/32"(2.381mm) Si3N4 bearings (the black ones). And it didn't fall out of my Deft pro bearing holder. So for anyone who also has a Deft Pro and wanted to change your bearings but couldn't find 2.5mm sized balls, hope you'll find this info useful. Oh and my Deft Pro model number is M-DPT1MRBK not sure if it's different for other model numbers.
Oh and just wanted to add I did the whole thing on my thick mouse pad, the balls didn't bounce much on them. but be careful they could still roll pretty far.
Awesome. Buuuuuttery smooth.
素晴らしいですね‼️ Very cool thank you‼️
The problem is not caused by synthetic rubies, much less by their supposed asphericity. But it depends on the heaviness of the ball, the sweat of the hands, and on the fact that the rubies do not turn on themselves but are fixed, changing them with the ceramic balls does not bring about any change, on the contrary being harder than the rubies, they scratch the ball and deform it quickly.
Very interesting. Funny that no one else has had this experience....
Can anyone confirm this?
i wish i had read this first, this is exactly what happened to me
Thank you indeed. Very helpful.
I replaced the bearings with the ones on Amazon but the ball seems a little stiff. Almost like there's some drag to it. It does not "spin" freely. I'm gonna take it apart again and see if something is pinched, but the ruby bearings look a little smaller next to the ceramic ones.
I found these bearings on Amazon, for anyone that's still looking!
Any follow up or new to add after a few years now?
I just got a Huge yesterday and tried it out today. It's been years since I've used a trackball and never with any regularity but I like it. Nice fit for my hand, nice button layout, the only thing I struggled with were small movements from stop. Ball moves fine once moving but seems input to get it rolly usually causes a roll to far.
After searching around it seems replacing the bearings would solve that. Or returning it. I would see if it wears in with use but planned use will be very seldom.
Great video!
very helpful, thanks!!
If you place a terrycloth towel under your work piece, its a lot harder for tiny parts to bounce away if one should fall. Good news is that you can pick up some fluffy, bright ones on prime ;)
Not a bad idea at all :) Thank you
Very good of you, and really feels like when I performed this mouse surgery... humorously so. But the "youtube magic" isn't available in r/t unfortunately. ;-) Thanks again for this.
I did the bearing change shortly after getting this trackball and it made a HUGE difference. Unfortunately after about a year of use, the scroll wheel isn't properly being tracked...
You sir, have a voice similar to that of the cat off from the movie "Hocus Pocus."
Make sure you don't tighten the bearing holder screws so tight that the bearings cannot spin!
I suspect the real issue is that bearing's mold isn't perfectly round and the bearings get stuck under pressure. (Probably why Kensington uses arms to hold the bearings rather than a cup, like in the huge!) I replaced my bearings but they eventually got stuck and barely spun. I just took my huge a part again, but this time I left my bearing holder loose enough where the bearings could spin freely, but tight enough where they couldn't fall out. Now it works great!!! Loosing the bearing holder cup may resolve people's issues without buying new bearings!
Pro-tip: Use carpet to catch the bearings when they fall out. The bearings wont roll away! To put the bearing back in just drop them in the bottom and guide them to hole. Leave enough flex where they can drop in. Then tighten just enough where they wont fallout but can still spin easily. (Will take multiple attempts!) The more easily the bearings spin the better scrolling you will have!
The bearings are not supposed to spin.
@@ulaulalaulaulala
If that's how bearings work they would eventually rub flat. There would also be no need to replace them as shown in the above video if that was the case too. motorsportsbearings.com/how-bearings-work.html#:~:text=The%20concept%20behind%20a%20bearing,roll%20better%20than%20they%20slide.&text=Bearings%20reduce%20friction%20by%20providing,the%20device%20to%20spin%20smoothly.
@@ulaulalaulaulala that don't even make sense. what are they even there for if they don't spin?
@@ConsecDesign they don't spin, the ball spins and glides on top of the bearings. The bearings simply hold the ball in place while maintaining the smallest point of contact possible to keep friction low.
@@N0RD0M bearings in a trackball are not the same as bearings in a car. He is correct in that they don't spin. They don't rub flat because friction is very low, ceramic is hard and the ball itself is a much softer material. if anything the ball itself would "rub flat" before the bearing would but you wouldn't notice due to the surface area of the ball.
Big thank you!
Thank you for the information
just did that and indeed it improves things significantly. however, even with this, the stickiness is not completely gone, if you are a perfectionist, you still won’t like it. on top of that, there is also a learning curve (if you never had one) and with the variety of traditional mice available at the moment I am not sure it worth the switch.
Lower grade number indicates better ball not only in diameter variance(not a factor here). But also roughness so the lower the grade number the better not a huge difference between 5 and 10 for sliding but try to stay low
So a g5 is better than a g10?
@@GOTHEAT0 Technically yes. However keep in mind that there's no guarantee that the G5 bearing you ordered is 'actually' a G5 quality, especially if you buy from overseas like China.
I really tried switching to trackballs but even the expensive ones I've tested were rather cheaply made.
I'm going to trust you and buy those ball bearings. But they are gonna take about a month to ship to my place.
Ceramic and stainless steel ball bearings are now available from Amazon (in the UK at least!)
That's awesome
No more ebay sketch :)
@@subversed just completed this improvement - your video was a great help. 👍
@@charleswheaton glad I could help :)
Thanks for the tear down, but my scroll wheel is what needs repairing. They only last about 1 1/2 years! Cheap mechanical encoders.
I use the index finger style of logitec trackball. One of my three i use has been acting up. Cleaned and deep cleaned a few times but ball still tries to lock up.
do you know size and grade these style logitec use? Great channel dude. thanks.
you are AMAZING :-) i don't have this mouse yet or any other mouse yet but about 8-10 yrs I had a Logitech Cordless TrackMan Optical wireless mouse what was also fucking good! I remember i looking for a very good trackball mouse at this time sooo long! And I choosed this mouse. This time i bought this for £50 about (new) and i used that for many many yrs. before stopped to work. Anyway! This mouse (Logitech) is SO EXPENSIVE!!! I don't want to buy that. And I thought i will buy this mouse (Elecom huge) and i am very happy because of I saw your super good video now! Thanks a lot!
yeah, maybe will not problem with my elecom huge mouse what I will buy nowadays (2020) but if will problem then I can fix already :) thx!
Tnx man!
Great tutorial, ty so much! I've been using the trackman marble for years and I really need a mouse wheel. Question, can you use 2.5 mm stainless steel bearings instead?
do not change your bearings, you will ruin your mouse. the engineers at elcom used ruby for a reason, i did it 6 months ago, my mouse is ruined, this guy doesnt know what hes talking about!!
Thanks for the video, do these bearings also work for the MTE?
Ok, i did exactly the same. I cannot open my mouse, same model but with wire. I've removed the 6 bottom screws + 2 in the ball container but the right side of my mouse won't open like if there's an other screw but I removed the plastic to make sure I unscrewed them all, took them all off. Since mine is with wire, I have less screws than yours yet I can't open it.
Does the trackball on the elecom deft pro move stuff with resistance?
Also can the elecom deft pro or any trackballs bearings be switched out with 2.5mm bearings or do they need specific sizes?
Thanks