Christianity was in Africa before Europe
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So Missionarys going to africa to convert Africans to Christianity was like taking sand to the beach .
Yes, Colonialism brought indoctrination in Africa, not religion 💚💛❤️🦁
Pretty much…😂😂😂😂
European Christianity is not the real Christianity and Jesus wasn't white, that's just truth!
Thats because the muslims are killing off the christians. God forbid people know the truth. Thats why the christians go
@@thirdeffectI agree. I think colonization brought good and bad. But you are right to a degree.
In Ethiopia we have a line directly linked to the line of David born from Queen Betsheba and King Solomon. It was ludicrous to me when people in west said otherwise. There was a very stereotypical view of Africans and claim over Christianity.
One guy said he can't imagine a guy named "Peter" in Africa. I in kind responded neither can I, because, it is derived from the Hebrew name "Petros" of which I have many friends named as such. Far perceeding it Latin derivitive.
The ignorance is insane, history for some begins and ends at the height of what's relevant to their nationalistic ego hur durr the 1800s.
I love this❤ I am Mexican.... this is so true
I’m American and white !!! My Mexican friends were the ones who made me open my eyes and look at the facts ,,,, Jesus wasn’t white!!!! 😂😂😂
@@boxcutter4808rabbi yeshua was a circumcised jew. You're proud of worshipping a jew who told you to love your enemies lol
It’s crazy that people don’t realise that Africa is connected to Egypt 😅
They know but they wanna listen to the liars that colonized the world even tho those very people that inhabit that land has no connection to the indigenous people that came before. Ive seen what they have done to the lands and the artifacts an tombs they raid that are to be a sacred place for the ancestors. They arent the descendants cuz if they were they would never have done what those people have been doing to the resting place an the bodies of the dead. Only africans worship an have respect for our dead never to disturb there resting place. We still do that to this day. We even believe, pray an call upon our ancestors for guidance an would never monopolize an parade around our ancestors an there achievement for revenue but they do that because they know there not related to anything that is connected to that land or its deceased. Even the ancestors religious gods belong to black africans. I dont see those people worshipping a sun God that can only really have faithful people that can actually bath in the sun but they wear drapes to hide from the sun. Africans dont ever need to do that.
Why did the video END the moment he said Jesus is NOT white 🤔
It was a popes son they made the pics from
@@333pinkfeatherThats a myth research it more....
@@333pinkfeatherCesare borgia (the wanna be) “jesus” or the image we see of a long haired western European looking hippy. Thats Cesare Borgia and defines a false graven images which breaks one of the 10 commandments
It's a short
What else needs to be said, he wasnt
True! I researched and learned that fact ages ago!!
The argument does not stress the reality of course Christianity was in Africa because the people of the Bible or black or at least dark the problem is that the Ethiopian Christianity was bastardized, instead of having black Saints a black Jesus black saviours and black liberators from the Bible they turn to White and then they started looking up on the European as more of a standard of intelligence and beauty. Ethiopians were blessed to have been black people who understood who they were but the rest of the African nations that followed did not so therefore they worship a white God white saviors white Jesus and a white Mary that created an imbalance
A European construct!!!
dude middle eastern people aren't black
They can never answer the question of why change Jesus skin color after saying it doesn't matter what he looked like. We should never let them run from that an answer the question. Why change his skin color if it doesn't matter what he looked like? They dont ever get to be absolved of that cuz its only going to pile up more of there peoples sins. Even other race groups can't accept it an they need to or it proves they have had there peoples psyche enslaved to this day. Whyte people only existed for 4000 years we have been here much much longer. Like before the cataclysm since we are the only true an original humans
He shut her up. Good job brother
Her comment was not provided context. In the full video, she appears to be a Christian, nodding in agreement and supporting the comments of the man from Nigeria. I would guess she was offering an agrument from the oppostion so he could provide a rebuttal.
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She was repeating something someone else said
I need the full video
Christianity was only in north Africa and Ethiopia at that time. The rest of Africa was pagan. His ancestors were pagans
It doesn't matter. The point is that Christianity is not a white religion like you libs constantly screech. White men had nothing to do with the creation of Christianity. They were also pagan when Christianity first came to be.
correction western europeans are pagans. west africans are sons of the soil, living as it is on the land aka african traditional spiritual science.
Correct Answer. Before the arrival of Christianity, Ethiopia was essentially a polytheist land where people worshipped different forms of paganism. The gods Astar, Meder and Mahrem represented the sky, earth and war, respectively. These three gods were central to traditional and spiritual rituals.
Cut the video off at the best part 😢 😮
ua-cam.com/video/-jUOZZQOiD4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared original video, 19 minutes
Christianity was in Africa but people were still forced in parts of west Africa to believe which is still bad. Just cause it was in Ethiopia doesn’t mean it wasn’t forced on others. Other countries had their own special practices.
Correct
Saint Moses the Ethiopian (late300-400AD), Saint King Kaleb/Elesbaan (500AD)
Hes right. Im african an my grandparents an theres an so on told me about how my family were nomadic nigerians that met an were educated by Ethiopians an other african tribes that had already had Christianity as there religion an back then it wasnt really called Christianity like the Europeans called it. My grandmother on my mothers side still believes an practices the old spiritual ways she was taught by her parents and grandparents. We should actually go back to the old ways before colonialism because those ways were real for our people an our way of living on this planet. My grandmother is 112 years old. She is an elder to my people who we respect but shes definitely being protected
Acts 8:27-40
Thankyou so much so are my roots.❤🎉
I don’t like the competition but we been though to believe we’re the best everyone else’s bad . We learn the sanitized version of British colonization and what it destroyed all over the world. That’s why we always being misled
Yes, awful how it destroyed burning wives alive when their husbands died. Truly an evil for the Brits to stop it.
Mad we know our history 😂😂😂😂too bad!!!
Did you see how she ruined her face
Before the arrival of Christianity, Ethiopia was essentially a polytheist land where people worshipped different forms of paganism. The gods Astar, Meder and Mahrem represented the sky, earth and war, respectively. These three gods were central to traditional and spiritual rituals. Bingo !
Love ❤Blue 💙💛🌎🌍🙏🏿🙏🏻
The preacher was kinda ruining the flow
But look at the preachers' face - totally lit up when he encountered this young man while stating these facts - and because of his African roots [I suppose] and knows his history, he feels supported by this young man, and validated in this argument.....trying to win souls....I think he was just truly excited...I want to see the rest of this video.
Jesus Christ is Lord! HalleluYah 😊
Please post the full link
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But it wasn’t the changed version that’s popular today, authored by King James of England
I love this ❤stop dividing us we are all the same race the human race I have family from all backgrounds and I love them all the same
Learn and embrace eachother ❤
Ethiopian Bible 500
Codex Fuldensis (Latin bible) 545
Alfonsine Bible (Spain)1280
King James Bible (England) 1611
For Christianity was present in Africa 1000 years before the first European Colonialists arrived on African shores. Were you aware of that? A whole millennia before any European nation docked their ships, Christianity had been flourishing in Africa-the gospel was already spreading in Africa, by African heralds!
No it wasnt.. judaism was in africa before Europe.. Armenia was the first country to embrace Christianity and its technically considered to be a part of europe and asia... that was in the third century 100 years before Ethiopia had ever heard of Christianity, Constantinople was christian almost 75 years before ethiopia.. This is what happens when people selectively edit the information they are given for racist reasons.
THE AFRICAN MAN IS CORRECT PRESENT DAY ETHOPIA WAS A CHRISTEN COUNTRY, ONE KING OF ETHOPIA NAMED NIJASHIE WHO HAD CONVERTED TO ISLAM!
Maybe the king chose islam because he seen first hand the destruction that Christianity brought to the continent
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Christianity is straight out of the Nicea council. Christianity is a Greek word. Yes you can say the Greeks copied from Kmt or whatever you perspective is. But Christianity is a European religion. Just because one black guy says differ means an opinion not a fact. The Ethiopian “Bible” is of Africa and Christianity is of Greek/Rome.
You can tell the how he acting he want him to say that
Y'all are terribly misguided
@@AuraysTimelessChannel I expect anything that’s European or Spain or mixed to make your comment
No, what you are referring to are Catholicism, which the majority of the Christian sectors do not agree with. Another word for the Catholic faith was the "Holy Roman faith" because it was... Roman/Greek.
Why are you Europeans trying to appropriate a Middle-Eastern man's religion? I don't remember Jesus visiting London or Berlin 😅
Fun Fact: You know what else have powerful energy. Semen is a very potent and powerful life source energy. It creates life/worlds. - Lovell Alberga a great knower that said this. He is like a myth but he is real. People says he is a powerful God and a very powerful potent diety. The infinite one/The Mysterious One/The non religious God is what they call him in Infinite Form. He goes in and out of time and space. Repetition is key. This God/Lovell Alberga answers. I seen his eyes light up.
Christianity was only in Ethiopia and Egypt, it was brought to sub-sahara by Europeans, it did not exist in the African Colonies before European colonization.
I was just about to point that out.
No there were Nubian kingdoms who were also Christian
You mean the sub-Saharan African countries like Nigeria?🤔Well in the Holy Bible in the book of Acts chapter 13 it says that the Niger’s were Prophets and Teachers of the Lord Jesus! Also the tribes of Judah were as far down as Ghana and Liberia and in Southern African countries as far down as South Africa!🤨☝️
Long before the Ashkenazi Khazars adopted Judaism and the Europeans adopted Christianity! The all prophets “including Jesus” in the Bible were Black. But🤨☝️ so is Buddha and so is Krishna! All Black, everyone else has adopted then modified for themselves a version of the religion
to suit them.
All across Northern Africa were a very large number of Coptic Christians. The apostle Mark went to Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Morocco to share the news of the Lord Jesus🙏. There’s many famous stories of the Martyr’s amazing bravery as they were being tortured and killed by the invaders. Hundreds maybe thousands of Churches and libraries were destroyed! Countless people died and enslaved by the hands of the Arabian Invaders! Forcing everyone to convert to Islam. And the descendants of those invaders are now saying that the Arab invasion never happened! That They’re indigenous to Africa🤔Really? Why pretend that you are Indigenous. It’s just historical facts! We all have dark or grey matter in our history. Also the only reason why the Arab Invaders didn’t destroy the churches in Ethiopia was because they dug underground churches so they wouldn’t be seen afar by those who would destroy them. That’s the only reason why Ethiopia has the oldest surviving churches and Bible in the world.
They tried to destroy All of the Christian Churches and it’s history in Africa. Enough of the history was kept hidden from the brutal invaders to tell the story about the Coptic African Christians bravery,their sacrifices and their Martyrdom‼️💔🙏RIP 🙏💔
Don’t change his argument
Islam did reach the African continent before other countries Ethiopia was the first country to receive the Muslims emigrants
The Africans were the first to acknowledge that their is only one GOD and creator of all
Source : the book of Enoch
That's a whole different story,, well worth discussing tho,,
@@geelb-fe7ef crazy how some churches wanna say that book is fake
With out Enoch… there would be no Noah and the list goes on
Firstly, it wasn’t even called “Christianity” , it was an African spiritual system which they interpreted in a whole different way in European via the Roman’s and Greeks
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And most Christians in Africa are Catholics! Ave Christus Rex!
The first instance of evangelism was Philip preached to the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts chapter 8. The Ethiopian found Jesus and was baptized. Logically, it would make sense he went back to Ethiopia and spread the gospel further there, sometime around the year 64 AD. Which bible translation came first is kind of irrelevant.
White folks trying to tell y’all 😫🤦🏾♂️
Ethiopia was the second country to accept Christianity after Armenia.
So why is he not in the HOODS and GHETTOS of America preaching this to black folks and Hispanics and native Americans Indians where they are doing al kinda wicked things to each other?
Because many of them don't have eyes to see nor ears to hear
@@sambeezy007 that is bullshit.
@@TheRealZJM377 are you proving my point? Either you understand and want to listen or just don't want to. It's what it is. They'll just ignore you
@@sambeezy007 dude that's bullshit. How u KNOW if people want to listen or not if you don't go out to those hoods and ghettos
Ethiopia was never colonized but there were attempts by italians to rule it and they did have an effect on the common people. That aside colonialism DID bring christianity to the rest of Africa outside of the horn. If you notice there is not one Ethiopian orthodox nor coptic church in west africa, central africa & southern africa. They're all protestant and roman or english catholic churches. stop the 🧢
Yes indeed it was...
It’s not completely wrong, Africa is a pretty big continent, so in some places it was already there (and way before Europe) in other places the colonizers forced it upon the population by torture, so it’s neither this nor that it’s both
I think this was staged
TRUTH HURTS
Guy in the red is the son of emilio knechtle who is a world renowned religious individual. Cliffe (red shirt) was born into a christian family, but the family he was born into and his family are absolutely NOT the type to force belief onto their kin. Especially considering his father is from Switzerland which alone shows that america has little to do with his family. Cliffe, based on other resources he's shown in, also is one who is open to others and references resources to appeal to reason rather than just slapping people with facts. He bolsters people's way of thinking with evidence and tries to correct a failure in logic. So his response here is because the presumption of another's belief is absolutely abhorrent from his perspective snd as he stated is something he would never do to another. His responsibility is not to assume why someone believes something, but his job IS to help people better understand why he believes in something he is so firmly believing in. Dont look at this video as him being mad at the fact that he's right, cliffe understands that and he is right with that. The point is that his presumption undermines his over 50 years of study and a life's dedication to a study. Its like saying that a wizard is only a wizard because he is the son of a master. You're right, but its unbelievable disrespectful to the effort and dedication of which its prowess is only at its level because of the dedication. A mentor can be found anywhere, and sometimes that mentor happens to be family. One can only take advantage of it to its highest level if they continue to pursue it. Cliffe did continue to because HE believes it after being raised by a world renowned theological expert as his mentor. Not everyone follows after their family trade, but a passionate mentor being close with you encourages you to from their wealth of knowledge.
But it seems like majority of Christians ur European whites
Colonialism destroyed their culture. But ethiopia was not colonized
Stop spreading your lies,The "Christianity was in Africa before Europe" narrative is a lie. The religion was first established around the Roman empire and Greece before the Ethiopian Orthodox church came into existence.
Are there any letters from Paul, who it was that initiated Christianity, to the Ethiopians? Meaning that there was not a recognized church anywhere in Africa prior to it's existence in Europe
Read your bible
Was Jesus born in Italy?
@@Oceansta
Did Jesus tell his followers start a new religion in his name
Christianity from all accounts in the bible was started by Paul, who was roman, it was adopted by roman emperor's and spread throughout their empire by decree under penalty of death. The head of the christian religion is the bishop of Rome. It is entirely a Grecian Roman creation, last time I saw a map Italy and Greece were in Europe. So apart from a few stolen myths Christianity has nothing to do with black people. White christians do not want to go to heaven to find out God is black, they would leave. So stop spreading your lies
The first countries to become christian were Armenia and Ethiopia, not Rome
Yeah what you talking about the Ethiopians and arminians established Christianity as a state religion much earlier than Rome. Up until Constantine, the Roman’s were humiliating and martyring Christians countless times
I think the female student would be referring to the colonization period and not necessarily throughout time. The argument is really about whites spreading the bible through colonialism and not where it spread first.
Jesus is not coming for Christians 😂..but for the Israelite people who are black. They are the lost sheep of Israel
lol the color of your skin won’t get you into heaven.🤦🏾♀️
no, it wasn’t errone think Ethiopia was never colonized because they were colonized through religion,
😂 so many different beliefs, which ones right
The first one
@@bullybreed86thats a great answer
JESUS SAID " I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME " JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE ALL OTHERS ARE DEAD
Christendom
Let the Middle-eastern God Bless America! 😅
Christianity was in Ethiopia before Europe doesn't mean it was all over Africa. Colonialism did bring it all over the continent.
Christianity is not just A One Culture' Religion either' Jesus Followers went Across the world to spread the word not just Africa' paul went as far as to the Philippines
But the missionaries spread it thru sub Saharan Africa and it was the warped Constantine version. The same way Wahhabism is the worst version of Islam. The west made up the blonde-haired-blue-eyed Jesus. And took verses in the bible to justify slavery. In 400AD is when Christianity came to Ethiopia by a Greek speaking missionary Frumentius. The colonisation of Africa was actually a second drive now using the KJV bible. The bible though I believe are African stories of our exodus to back to us in a corrupted way. The mother and child used as Mary and Jesus is from Khemet and Nubia. Nothing new under the sun.
Everything was in africa first...
Also africa and america split from a major natural disaster
There were no human beings alive when the two continents split so it doesn't matter
So if that’s true and the white man saying that why yaw not reading our books instead of the kjv
I thought they were basically the same, just missing the book of Enoch
Jesus wasn't white nor black either
He didn't say that.
You've seen him?
Didn't say that neither
Yup f.i. Coptics etc.
Ethiopia is still Poor.
Europe is rich because of the scientific and industrial revolutions which only happened because of Christianity
Christianity was brought to Ethiopia by a by a Roman bishop to the Askum empire in the fourth century. Colonialism absolutely imposed Christianity on Africa, the same as Islam was imposed by Muslims. He's right about it not being a European religion in its origins . It was a misinterpretation of Africa spirituality, which had its beginning in Ancient Kemet.
Sorry, incorrect. The first instance of actual evangelism is in Acts Chapter 9, when Philip speaks to the Ethiopian eunuch. It would make sense therefore, that Christianity was in Ethiopia, sometime around the year 64 AD.
Lol
Before Christianity africans were praying Rain as God, Fire as God, Sun as God, Moon as God many more things and when Christianity came into Africa.. That filth made Africa what it is today else it would have been a heaven on earth..
Source trust me bro, no it was in my country Ethiopia, and prior to that it was in egypt amidst the Coptic Orthodox. Plus your more so referencing native American traditions than anything else here.
Stop speaking out of passion and atleast try to not speak from your echo chamber. Additionally, I want to tell you that although Africa is not wealthy, it absolutely does not entertain the amount of spiritual depravity practiced by its contempararires namely the LGBTQ and rampant acknowledgement of homosexuality and transgender movements. You do any of that there you are jailed. Your bleeding bro and you don't even know it.
It wasn't fam 😂😂😂 read history
This Brother means well, but is misinformed and confused!
Christianity is based on Greek translations of Egyptian Mythology which is based on natural physical existence. Mythology because it was all metaphors explaining phenomenon of this physical plane of existence, seemingly unexplainable. So stories were developed that could be understood by the simple minded individuals, as reminders of who, what, when, where, how, and why they existed. To take all these metaphorical stories as actual history is the mistake Christianity made; leaving Spirituality out of Religion; making Spirituality a Religion, and finally making Religion a Business!
False
You must be off your head
Jesus was a Palestinian Jew and Christianity was brought to WEST African through Colonization.
Go preach at those tax exempt buildings y’all have.
Bible came like 100 years after Jesus Christ's death
You're not saying anything, really
Because the apostles had to write it
Jesus was Jewish. I believe that is white. He was born in the Middle East. I have heard black people say Jesus is black due to some description in the Bible about him having woolly hair.
That woolly hair thing is a misread of Revelation 1:14
"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;"
I say they are misreading it because as you can see it doesn't say his hair is woolly, it says his head and hair were white like wool white like snow. It's talking about color not hair texture, plus your head is what's on your shoulders so I'm not sure why this was ever used as some evidence of Jesus being black. And when people make that argument they are ignoring the whole message of that passage, John is seeing Christ in all his glory in heaven not when Jesus was walking the earth.
I want to hear more
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