CP3 vs CP4 vs DCR
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The big three need a big enough lawsuit against them for the cp4 that would change their attitude about screwing the customer, problem is politicians and judges are bought and paid for.
Stellantis experienced that for the year and half they used the CP4. They had a lawsuit and went back to the CP3 along with a covered recall to convert the CP4s back to a CP3.
EDIT: at least on their 6.7s.
The half ton market with their eco diesels didn't get the same treatment.
@@AbsolutionArmamentEcodiesel recall is happening but currently in "No Parts Available" status. Probably won't be released for another 6 to 12 months with how many 6.7's are still left to do.
@@FZ6er The ecos are not a conversion but a coverage for replacement back to the same cp4 plus injectors and lines if it does fail. Which is why I said they aren't getting the same treatment.
The reason being is the CP3s do not fit in the eco's valleys just like the 6.7PS. At least for the PS there is an aftermarket option now, DCR.
Chrysler already did. CP4 is recalled and replaced with a CP3
i read somewhere that bosh themselves actually told all three companies that the cp4 was not recommended because of the diesel fuel/sulfur in america but regardless each company took its risk
that dcr looks promising. similar design to a old school hydralic pump
Just purchased the DCR pump. BEYOND relieved to have it installed.
Nice..did you install it yourself or did a shop install it? If so,how much was the labor cost to install..i really need this for 6.7 powerstroke
@Carlosanddawn local Ford dealership. $1,500.00. It can be done MUCH cheaper at a smaller shop, but I don't ever chance that Route. It's an expensive investment that can/will save you THOUSANDS in the long run, just llet your local Ford dealership do the work.
@1BigMistakee cool..i was just curious ,and to be honest with you,that's money well spent ..I'll fork out 1500 to have installed and prevent a possible $10k failure,not to mention, the hassel of getting it towed and such. Thanks for the quick response 👍
@@Carlosanddawn you're welcome. Make the decision NOW. Don't regret it later. I recently forked out $11,500 to have my fuel system replaced.
Too bad it will void my warranty... it will be fixed under warranty, but I would like to just not worry about it.
Just got to give it time to work the bugs out. Always something overlooked when you get a new design
thank you for making this! Ford should have done it themselves but ofcourse they didnt 🤦🏻♂️
You're welcome!
don't own a 6.7 but if I did this would be in the budget
Not just a 6.7 that has the cp4. The big three have them. 6.7 just been using it longer
@@gavinboyle4985no one else suing them now but ford…
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@gavinboyle4985 Um no! Duramax stop using that junk 7 years ago. L5p has hp4 pumps by denso! Way better by far
2011 to 2024 powerstrokes all came with the cp4 😮
Yep, & meanwhile Cummins recalled the CP4 & said to use the CP3 instead Ford didn’t. Probably because of the space/position it sits in. Or if ur tight on $ get the CP4 Disaster prevention kit rly easy to install if ur able to re-use stuff.
DCR reminds me of how a Rotary engine works.
Cp4 was responsible for 12k in damage to my duramax. Had the cp3 conversion done to it after that
Sorry to hear that.
@@thoroughbreddiesel worst part is. My truck had 105k on it FML
i have 255k on my stock cp4 pump 2012 LML i just try to never go under 1/4 tank and add hotshot to it on every fill@@CD38325
Lml engine! L5p has denso hp4 pumps and so far 7 years later little to no issues!
My Mercedes has CP3 300,000 Mi runs perfect
So why should I choose DCR conversion vs a CP3 conversion? They’re the same price, the CP3 is proven but the DCR still isn’t.
There isn't a CP3 option for the 6.7 Fords, the DC4 is the only full injection pump conversion of the CP4 equipped Powerstrokes.
Got lucky and caught cp4 goin out before contamination. DCR pump here we come
What year of truck and mileage did you catch it at?
@@d.bray1 2015 196k but the truck was turned up on the tune it’s whole life. My buddy has a 2017 389k miles all stock fuel system. Stock injectors and stock pump
@@KKMechanical Thanks for the response!
@@d.bray1 no problem bro if you are on the fence about getting one I’d say get one. I will not buy any other truck. They run like a bat out of hell. If you look up most reliable v8 engines ever made it’s #3
@@KKMechanical i’m actually in the process of buying a 2020 F250 right now!
If the fuel is the problem, can't a lubricity additive solve the problem? (Although I guess that could get expensive over 100k miles)
What they make it for then
So question, can you still use your s&s disaster prevention kit with the new DCR pump?
i’m theory there is 0 reason to since a failure would return metal to the tank and not to the rail/injectors
@@davbe5463 Hopefully it works out
@@barefootbilly223 i’d also like to see a flow diagram but from what i understand a rotating assembly failure wouldn’t make its way downstream like the cp4
The bypass kit is not longer in use but you can keep your return fuel filtration.
The stanadyne DCR pump is well proven in other parts of the world.
Why is the DCR a fix for the 6.7 PS and not a DMAX?
Great question! We have the CP3 conversion for the Dmax trucks. The reason that the DCR is used on the Powerstrokes is because they couldn’t get the CP3 pumps to work in the valley of the 6.7’s.
Do they have the 3rd option for lml duramax 2011?
And the only lubrication the pumps get is the diesel fuel?
Yes.
Does anyone know how many CP3, CP4 failures there have been since they started using them vs how many are currently in use? Asking for a friend.
Different platforms for all 3 of these pumps. CP4 failures are very real in both the Duramax and Powerstroke platforms. Generally, lack of fuel quality and low pressure component failure can lead to the CP4 failures. Both CP3 and DCR conversions are great options because both of those pumps have proven to be much more reliable and robust than the CP4.
Misfueling as well
None talks about this
What's my cost? Where can I buy a or purchase the best one and which is the best? One Ford already? F*** me, so what do I got to lose?
You can order here: www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/ss-cp4-to-dcr-conversion-ford-67/
Are they going to make a stroker pump with these?
We haven’t heard yet. The concentration here is to get a pump for these trucks that takes care of the failure. Performance Im sure will be addressed at some point.
@@thoroughbreddiesel thanks👍
What does the 67 Cummins have cp3? For the newer trucks
2019 and 2020 trucks had the cp4, then they went back.
I meant to say cp4
Would the s&s dcr work on the new 6.7 HO powerstroke?
We are still in testing on the 23 HO trucks.
What would the difference between having a prevention kit on a cp4 pump or changing to the DCR be as far as having your truck running good and efficient down the road?
With the DCR kit, you aren’t just waiting for a failure to happen, or you have chosen to trust the CP4 (which may never fail) and have the DPK kit there in case it does. It’s a matter of choice.
I'm in the same situation ...I'm looking at the DCR from S&S diesel...for 1900$....plus 1500 to have it installed ....but the DPKit is about 400 I think and then I can just keep my fingers crossed....my truck has 89k miles on it ...idk....I'm stuck about it
@@christopheranderson1162
Install the dcr it would be worth it peace of mind better pump
When can we get one lol?!
Pre order now, shipping q2 of this year
Go to the link and put in your email. You'll notified when it come out.
My motor runs a cp3 r90 is there a bolt on replacement i can upgrade too ?
We do not have a upgraded one that we sell, everything we offer is SHO spec.
Would I lose mpg going to a dcr
MPG will not be affected by this conversion.
Essa bomba serve na amarok? Onde posso compra-la?
Does the DCR fit on a 22MY ?
Give us a call 866-380-3068.
does dcr fit 6.7?
Give us a call 1-866-941-5493.
I’ll buy the DCR when they’re manufactured in the US and not China.
They will be fully assembled stateside by end of year.
@@thoroughbreddiesel hopefully my 200,000 mile CP4 hangs in there until then.
Double pump!
look at the parasitic drag on it compared to the others 👍
I’m lost wtf are we looking at
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