Man!! 10700k is a beast , too bad that ryzen 5000 series is out otherwise I wouldn't have hesitated to grab one but if the price of 10700k gets competitive I mean close to 3800x then it would definitely be a steal..
@@Anderson_Hwang That really won't make such a difference would it? I mean I m probly gonna pair it with 3070 but I m glad I waited XD turns out they are gonna release non x versions too if 5700x is somewhat cheaper than 10700k than its like a obvio deal 4 me..
@@kunalgusain6321 its not just the 4.0....the amd ones uses much less power for preddy much the same speed! yes you have some fps more but in all other, the ryzens are way way better then the intels! i have (had) a 9900ks....with 3 radiatior Custom Loop....i tryed a 3900xt! and the xt is in games preddy much the same (in reallife wqhd ultra) but the productivity benches are 30-50% better.....with much less power and what counts for me, way less heat!! Then the Problem, that u have to buy a new board!! if the 10.gen uses 1151, it were a steal....a very good choice!! but i need a new board? and for the next gen again new board?? Sorry Intel.....NOPE!
@@nickgames1892 yes after 5000....but now i doesnt need a new board! if i buy Intel, in every case, i need a new board. so, its matter! i changes my 99ks for an 3900xt...and it was the best i can do! nearly same gaming performance on GPU Limit (RL you always in GPU limit) with much less heat and power consumption! plus on top, way way more multicore power!
Nice job. Much appreciated. Running a 3080 at 1080p seems wasteful, but it does give useful information about performance. I’d like to see some 3440 x 1440p widescreen and 4K results, too.
Everyone normally forgets thats a 10700k to get 5.1ghz stable needs a 280mm Aio and a 3700x to get 4.3ghz heck probabily you can get it with stock cooler or a cheap hyper 212 Evo That aside I wish you guys tried using ryzen with 3800mhz memory with the Infinity fabric clocked at 1900mhz, it really helps zen 2 a lot
I have an aftermarket cooler but after testing the stock cooler.. I never bothered putting on my aftermarket cooler which is better than CM Hyper 212. 3700X Even with 4.3GHz OC and stress testing on stock cooler hits 80C at most. Usually stays around 76C while stress testing. 65W plus that awesome stock coolers have no need for people to buy aftermarket coolers. That's another big plus and a money saver that can go towards other better components. Plus the stock cooler looks awesome with RGB being completely tunable to your liking.
That's not true at all, lol. My current 10900K runs at 5.1GHz all cores and is cooled by a measly Corsair H80i V2 (240mm cooler) in push-pull configuration.
@@Patrick73787 The point is he was close enough with his answer while 3700X can run off a stock cooler that not only looks good and fully RGB customizable but it also let's you keep a 4.3GHz OC fully stable.
Both are good. Zen 3 will probably be a monster. Also as good as intel also is 14nm is at its limit and they at least need their desktop 10nm sooner than later.
@@null643 I've tried low and high settings basically all kind of settings and im not getting any near of 190 fps like in the video lmao idk benchmarks are fine just ingame
1080p data is useful even if you play at 1440p, as you can be CPU bound at 1440p too in a lot of games, depending or area/scenario in the game (doesn't necessarily happen in the benchmark location at 1440p). Also 2k = 1080p.
it could be very hard for intel! if the amd benches and "leaks" are correct....i guess rocket lake would not be enough to beat amd!!maybe rocket lake are equal...but for beat zen3, if the leaks and rumors are correct......its hard for intel! hope they do a good job!
@@Knebebelmeyer AMD themselves told to the guys at Hardware Unboxed they don't expect Zen 3 to beat Comet Lake in every games. So Rocket Lake beating Zen 3 in gaming will be a no brainer.
@@Patrick73787 what amd or intel told doesnt matter! if the zen 3 is out....we see how good they are! if rocket lake are out, we see how good they are! i know the benches...i own a intel 9900ks and i own a 3900xt..i know the differences in RL. we have to wait until the chips are out and for sale... benches dont tell the "whole" story. Ryzens are good....but intels memory controller are way better! its a fact! so we have to wait to compare the cpus in equal rigs and more games/loads.
@@Patrick73787 На презентации сказали и показали достаточно наглядно, что ой9 в "шоколад`нице" при сравнении с одинаковой частотой памяти, но нет, мы будем отрицать до последнего - AMD же всё врут. R7 5800X будет ещё быстрее 5900X в играх и сможет разгоняться до 5 Ггц + брать 4000 по памяти. То, что написал один продажный сайт - это просто бред и дезинформация, иными словами "вброс", AMD уж тем более ничего подобного не заявляли. Очнитесь, микроархитектура "Skylake" устарела, как и 14 нм - если исходить из любимых вами "инсайдов", то "Cypress Cove" (скорее "Cypis Cow", каламбур, однако) будет отрываться от "Skylake" не более чем на 10%, а частоты останутся теми же - этого явно не хватит, чтобы покрыть 28,8-33,33% разницы по IPC между "Zen 3" и "Skylake" + разницы в 50% по эффективности относительно площади. Так что ждём настоящего конкурента в лице "Alder Lake" с "Golden Cove".
@@Patrick73787 but if rocket lake will have 10% more IPC then comet lake and 5,2ghz on all cores it could be better again on 1080p gaming with rtx 3090
@@Mr11ESSE111 Having more than 8 cores for gaming is not necessary as next gen consoles don't have more than 8 Zen 2 cores either. Currently there's less than 10 games that use more than 8 cores. AMD themselves told the guys at Hardware Unboxed that they don't expect Zen 3 to beat Comet Lake in every games, which means Rocket Lake will beat Zen 3 in most games if not all.
so many intel fanboys being like "pay more ! no matter if you get as much performance as you pay the premium PAY MORE ! " ... price to performance and feature is the key for smart consummers and here the ryzen 7 3700x is on top with being cheaper , coming with a cooler and can be OCed on cheaper motherboards . plus you have pcie 4.0 that does not existe on intel right now and we still dont know how RTX IO will behave on pcie 3.0 and 4.0. anyway fanboys incoming .
@@togakai2703 yeah , but i talked about the feature aswell , if losing pcie 4.0 for RTX IO dont matter you then ... go ahead pay a big premium for 8% perf but most of people are smarter than that :)
Woow intel win again.... But i don't like intel because every new cpu need new mobo, chipset 400 series maybe not support intel 11th series. With amd chipset 400 series support to 1 generation ryzen - 5 generation this amazing
I'm not ok with the power usage from either. Waaaaaay too much juice required. And RDNA2 & Amepre are some of the worst power hogs ever created. smh, just my 2¢
The 5800x will rape the 10700k. Also, the 10700k has better optimization, and 0.8mhz! More clock speed, 95w tdp! Against 65w, and 100$ more, and it barely wins, Ryzen is far ahead
Has dado al dardo xd, ya prácticamente no se aprovecha pero se deduce que está generación de RYZEN 3k empató con Intel y la nueva gen viene para ganar, espero ver a los anteriores RYZEN a precio de rebaja por AliExpress
Las pruebas de procesadores en juegos se tienen que hacer en 1080p todo en bajo, si es posible en 720p, si pones una comparativa a 4k la que se está esforzando es la GPU no el procesador, y la gracia es ver cuál es más rápido de los 2, ah y también la gente que juega eSports juega por debajo de 1080p, en mi caso con un 3700x juego a csgo en 1280x1024
@@luh3547 lo se muy bien , solo digo que el que compra una gpu de ese nivel tiene dinero para un monitor de 240hz 4k o 2k es como comprar un carro y solo usar tres cambios de 7
@@danielvelasquez1100 ah sí obviamente, yo en mi caso me comprare una 3080 y jugare a 1080p 144hz, pero si el que normalmente tiene dinero para comprarse GPUs de gama alta y Procesadores como estos suele tener monitores 2k para arriba si
are you still staying in cloud ? go and check how many price are them now. ryzen now pretty much out of stock everywhere, even in stock are having the price increased like 100 dollar
@@kevinyoliveira68 Nope, i7-10700K beats the 3700X in Cinebench if you look at the start of the video, also, a 12% singlethreaded perfomance which gives it the edge in console emulation, gaming, even in music production.
Did you think Ryzen will have double the performance because it has 7nm, half of 14? It's more to do with games' optimization than with chips. If devs optimize for core count, there will be lil to no difference between them, if devs optimize for core speed, then there will be. But, 10700k costs 70$ more, its motherboard is expensive, a cheap air cooler can't hold 5.1 Ghz, so it's a premium build. And Zen 3 WILL be similarly priced because it delivers a lot, and intel's 5 Ghz mania will show its age by making chips unavailable everywhere.
3200 CL16 is a bit slow both would benefit from faster RAM but the R7 more. plus the 1440p should have been in the chart much closer perf and FPS diff instead of misleading %.
I own a 10700k, but that Ryzen is great for the price.
i cant help but enjoy the music - great chips though :)
Man!! 10700k is a beast , too bad that ryzen 5000 series is out otherwise I wouldn't have hesitated to grab one but if the price of 10700k gets competitive I mean close to 3800x then it would definitely be a steal..
but ur stuck on pcie 3.0 for years had u chosen the 10700K
@@Anderson_Hwang That really won't make such a difference would it? I mean I m probly gonna pair it with 3070 but I m glad I waited XD turns out they are gonna release non x versions too if 5700x is somewhat cheaper than 10700k than its like a obvio deal 4 me..
@@kunalgusain6321 its not just the 4.0....the amd ones uses much less power for preddy much the same speed!
yes you have some fps more but in all other, the ryzens are way way better then the intels!
i have (had) a 9900ks....with 3 radiatior Custom Loop....i tryed a 3900xt! and the xt is in games preddy much the same (in reallife wqhd ultra) but the productivity benches are 30-50% better.....with much less power and what counts for me, way less heat!!
Then the Problem, that u have to buy a new board!!
if the 10.gen uses 1151, it were a steal....a very good choice!! but i need a new board? and for the next gen again new board??
Sorry Intel.....NOPE!
@@Knebebelmeyer youll need a new board after 5000 release. And i believe 11gen whas going pcie4 so. Doesnt matter.
@@nickgames1892 yes after 5000....but now i doesnt need a new board!
if i buy Intel, in every case, i need a new board.
so, its matter!
i changes my 99ks for an 3900xt...and it was the best i can do!
nearly same gaming performance on GPU Limit (RL you always in GPU limit) with much less heat and power consumption!
plus on top, way way more multicore power!
Nice job. Much appreciated. Running a 3080 at 1080p seems wasteful, but it does give useful information about performance. I’d like to see some 3440 x 1440p widescreen and 4K results, too.
He's testing the Cpus in this video, not the gpu. Higher resolutions would not be useful to test cpus because they are used a lot less.
there's both 1080p and 1440p benchs in this vid for everygame
Everyone normally forgets thats a 10700k to get 5.1ghz stable needs a 280mm Aio and a 3700x to get 4.3ghz heck probabily you can get it with stock cooler or a cheap hyper 212 Evo
That aside I wish you guys tried using ryzen with 3800mhz memory with the Infinity fabric clocked at 1900mhz, it really helps zen 2 a lot
I have an aftermarket cooler but after testing the stock cooler.. I never bothered putting on my aftermarket cooler which is better than CM Hyper 212. 3700X Even with 4.3GHz OC and stress testing on stock cooler hits 80C at most. Usually stays around 76C while stress testing. 65W plus that awesome stock coolers have no need for people to buy aftermarket coolers. That's another big plus and a money saver that can go towards other better components. Plus the stock cooler looks awesome with RGB being completely tunable to your liking.
That's not true at all, lol. My current 10900K runs at 5.1GHz all cores and is cooled by a measly Corsair H80i V2 (240mm cooler) in push-pull configuration.
@@Patrick73787 The point is he was close enough with his answer while 3700X can run off a stock cooler that not only looks good and fully RGB customizable but it also let's you keep a 4.3GHz OC fully stable.
Both are good. Zen 3 will probably be a monster. Also as good as intel also is 14nm is at its limit and they at least need their desktop 10nm sooner than later.
I have a 3700x and rtx 3080 and I get in warzone like 140 fps on 1080p how are u getting almost 200fps?
Do you have XMP activated in your bios? in think that was the name of it
1440p to a better moniter
@@prodigy4376 yes i have :(
@@null643 I've tried low and high settings basically all kind of settings and im not getting any near of 190 fps like in the video lmao idk benchmarks are fine just ingame
@@shifteddd Thanks for feedback of your hardware.
5.1ghz? Sustained? What is the temp? CPU + cooler how much? And only marginally more performance than 3700x while using 20% more power?
Nvidia settings for performance? Can you show me please.
U have ryzen 3700x/10700k + plus rtx 3080 why u play in 1080p??? If u can play in 2k/4k....
To show CPU performance and not the gpu one
1080p data is useful even if you play at 1440p, as you can be CPU bound at 1440p too in a lot of games, depending or area/scenario in the game (doesn't necessarily happen in the benchmark location at 1440p).
Also 2k = 1080p.
Probably a fair comparison would be the Ryzen 7 3800XT
yes...the 10700k cost 100$ more and is not a fair compare!
even the 3800xt cost 50 60$ less then the 10700k!
See you in Q3 2021 for Rocket Lake vs Zen 3
it could be very hard for intel! if the amd benches and "leaks" are correct....i guess rocket lake would not be enough to beat amd!!maybe rocket lake are equal...but for beat zen3, if the leaks and rumors are correct......its hard for intel!
hope they do a good job!
@@Knebebelmeyer AMD themselves told to the guys at Hardware Unboxed they don't expect Zen 3 to beat Comet Lake in every games. So Rocket Lake beating Zen 3 in gaming will be a no brainer.
@@Patrick73787 what amd or intel told doesnt matter!
if the zen 3 is out....we see how good they are!
if rocket lake are out, we see how good they are!
i know the benches...i own a intel 9900ks and i own a 3900xt..i know the differences in RL.
we have to wait until the chips are out and for sale...
benches dont tell the "whole" story.
Ryzens are good....but intels memory controller are way better! its a fact! so we have to wait to compare the cpus in equal rigs and more games/loads.
@@Patrick73787
На презентации сказали и показали достаточно наглядно, что ой9 в "шоколад`нице" при сравнении с одинаковой частотой памяти, но нет, мы будем отрицать до последнего - AMD же всё врут. R7 5800X будет ещё быстрее 5900X в играх и сможет разгоняться до 5 Ггц + брать 4000 по памяти. То, что написал один продажный сайт - это просто бред и дезинформация, иными словами "вброс", AMD уж тем более ничего подобного не заявляли. Очнитесь, микроархитектура "Skylake" устарела, как и 14 нм - если исходить из любимых вами "инсайдов", то "Cypress Cove" (скорее "Cypis Cow", каламбур, однако) будет отрываться от "Skylake" не более чем на 10%, а частоты останутся теми же - этого явно не хватит, чтобы покрыть 28,8-33,33% разницы по IPC между "Zen 3" и "Skylake" + разницы в 50% по эффективности относительно площади. Так что ждём настоящего конкурента в лице "Alder Lake" с "Golden Cove".
Y las pruebas reales temperaturas tiempos de uso ???? Quien se calienta más???
al final sale bro , el intel se calienta mas , ademas es logico mira la frecuencia a la que estan overclockeados
for 11 days comes zen3 cpu-s and even r5 5600x at 4-4,1ghz will be equal to 10700k at 5ghz and not only in gaming then in productivity
Zen 3 will have to compete with Rocket Lake in March 2021.
@@Patrick73787 it will be better then Rocket lake in 90% of things and Rocket Lake will not have more then 8 cores and 16 threads
@@Patrick73787 but if rocket lake will have 10% more IPC then comet lake and 5,2ghz on all cores it could be better again on 1080p gaming with rtx 3090
@@Mr11ESSE111 Having more than 8 cores for gaming is not necessary as next gen consoles don't have more than 8 Zen 2 cores either. Currently there's less than 10 games that use more than 8 cores. AMD themselves told the guys at Hardware Unboxed that they don't expect Zen 3 to beat Comet Lake in every games, which means Rocket Lake will beat Zen 3 in most games if not all.
@@Patrick73787 depend on game and future gpu-s
so many intel fanboys being like "pay more ! no matter if you get as much performance as you pay the premium PAY MORE ! " ... price to performance and feature is the key for smart consummers and here the ryzen 7 3700x is on top with being cheaper , coming with a cooler and can be OCed on cheaper motherboards . plus you have pcie 4.0 that does not existe on intel right now and we still dont know how RTX IO will behave on pcie 3.0 and 4.0. anyway fanboys incoming .
not everyone cares about price to performance
@@togakai2703 Yes why that pesoples that wish the better will buy the Ryzen 5000 ;)
@@togakai2703 yeah , but i talked about the feature aswell , if losing pcie 4.0 for RTX IO dont matter you then ... go ahead pay a big premium for 8% perf but most of people are smarter than that :)
lol you think the stock cooler can overclock on the ryzen? funny bro
@@Jifery not the point . Even if you pay a cooler building ryzen is still way cheaper .
Woow intel win again.... But i don't like intel because every new cpu need new mobo, chipset 400 series maybe not support intel 11th series. With amd chipset 400 series support to 1 generation ryzen - 5 generation this amazing
Im hyped for the ryzem 5800x and 5900xt
Ehm i mean 3800xt is at the same price of 10700k, not 3700x
10700k rocks tho, and saying it as an amd fan
Ryzen 7 3800XT = Ryzen 7 3700X + 5%
Only go with old Ryzen 3000 parts or buy Ryzen 5000
The winner here is the i7 but the ryzen is significantly cheaper and it can be overclocked with cheaper mobos .
then the winner is the ryzen 7 because it's pretty darn close for way less money :)
My local microcenter has that i7 on sale for 300
R.I.P Intel
For sure you don't wish one to RIP. Otherwise you would pay sky high price for the dominator product.
amd fanboy... (at the same time i'm not amd or intel fanboy like others)
@@hansip87 Dominator product = Ryzen 5000 :D
@Deli Adam Zen 2 = Price per performance king
Zen 3 = Performance king
Intel = High price for old technology and high power consumption king
@Deli Adam Can you put a 16 core on that intel platform? K
This is a shame for Intel it has more money than AMD but can barely keep up with performance and loses in consumption
@Dan The Man Intel 10nm not always exist too, and it barely beat 14nm, also 14nm barely beat 22nm.
@Dan The ManYes it have bilions, but still have bad products compared with yours competitor
280$ for a 3700x isn't a bad thing at all lol. adding extra 100$ for a D15s, still much better than 10700k alone
I'm not ok with the power usage from either. Waaaaaay too much juice required. And RDNA2 & Amepre are some of the worst power hogs ever created. smh, just my 2¢
Rdna2 ain't out so tdp ain't officially known yet all we have is assumption based on maths that could be Incorrect
The 5800x will have to be a powerhouse to beat the 10700k it leads in so many titles
The 5800x will rape the 10700k.
Also, the 10700k has better optimization, and 0.8mhz! More clock speed, 95w tdp! Against 65w, and 100$ more, and it barely wins, Ryzen is far ahead
@@TheAlbaniaGaming even the 10600K rapes every Zen 2 CPU in gaming. 11600K will do the same to Zen 3.
@Rage ?
@@ahsanqureshi786 14nm++++ = illusonal gain performance
i7-6700K = i9-10900K
@@ahsanqureshi786 Shame for Intel.
Out Intel on stock 4.7 and then see.
Yes, Intel stock of 4.7Ghz and amd stock of 3.6Ghz and then see.
Ur paying so much more for the i7 but so less for the ryzen n there's not even thst much of a big difference
well there is people that hungry just for 20 fbs more
Quien putas juega a 1080p con esos cpu y gpu ni sentido tiene esto. Y lo peor que qmd es mejor al final
Has dado al dardo xd, ya prácticamente no se aprovecha pero se deduce que está generación de RYZEN 3k empató con Intel y la nueva gen viene para ganar, espero ver a los anteriores RYZEN a precio de rebaja por AliExpress
Las pruebas de procesadores en juegos se tienen que hacer en 1080p todo en bajo, si es posible en 720p, si pones una comparativa a 4k la que se está esforzando es la GPU no el procesador, y la gracia es ver cuál es más rápido de los 2, ah y también la gente que juega eSports juega por debajo de 1080p, en mi caso con un 3700x juego a csgo en 1280x1024
@@luh3547 lo se muy bien , solo digo que el que compra una gpu de ese nivel tiene dinero para un monitor de 240hz 4k o 2k es como comprar un carro y solo usar tres cambios de 7
@@danielvelasquez1100 ah sí obviamente, yo en mi caso me comprare una 3080 y jugare a 1080p 144hz, pero si el que normalmente tiene dinero para comprarse GPUs de gama alta y Procesadores como estos suele tener monitores 2k para arriba si
Ryzen Wins, price to performance.
No it doesn’t, price difference is only 50€ so relax bro
Fatality
are you still staying in cloud ? go and check how many price are them now. ryzen now pretty much out of stock everywhere, even in stock are having the price increased like 100 dollar
say again with ryzen 5 5600x man, price to performance
They're aren't only 50$ of difference since there is also a big difference for the motherboards
Soo many intel fanboys here in the comments...
Funny how they think the same about AMD fanboys
@@Patrick73787 ye true xD
Amd fanboys everywhere lmao
Because AMD is better and consume less power than FX Intel.
@@kevinyoliveira68 I710700 better in games than 3700X and I9 better than 3900X in games
@@Tailsera5762 someone said before "buy the product, not the brand"
FX 9590 220W I7 3770 77W lmao
@@Tailsera5762 FX is trash, I am talking of Intel Core 10th generation and Ryzen, and Intel Core now is trash.
Se pelean pos 10fps!?
Okey si es verdad Intel es mejor asta el momento xdd
This 3700x is better, wait for 5800x 😉
Its cheaper but not better fanboy yea.
@@dazta6738 It is for render.
@@dazta6738 And have lower power consumption.
@@kevinyoliveira68 Nope, i7-10700K beats the 3700X in Cinebench if you look at the start of the video, also, a 12% singlethreaded perfomance which gives it the edge in console emulation, gaming, even in music production.
@@saricubra2867 lol no, Intel only wins in gaming, but lose in each other task.
Zen3 on 5. november will win easily
intel 11 gen march 2021 win easy....
@@Waasislos one is in less than 2 weeks, the other in 5 months. Bad comparison
Nvidia arm in 2030 win ez.
maybe
@@jikman681 I mean one is on the market, the other no, stupid comparison
14nm defeated 7nm lol
75$ for 5% lol
Did you think Ryzen will have double the performance because it has 7nm, half of 14? It's more to do with games' optimization than with chips. If devs optimize for core count, there will be lil to no difference between them, if devs optimize for core speed, then there will be. But, 10700k costs 70$ more, its motherboard is expensive, a cheap air cooler can't hold 5.1 Ghz, so it's a premium build. And Zen 3 WILL be similarly priced because it delivers a lot, and intel's 5 Ghz mania will show its age by making chips unavailable everywhere.
3200 CL16 is a bit slow both would benefit from faster RAM but the R7 more. plus the 1440p should have been in the chart much closer perf and FPS diff instead of misleading %.
intels 14nm defeats their own 10nm too lol
75 dollars for 5 fps :DDD
Согласен
No match
cheapee but not better
At 1440p almost no diff and faster RAM would make a diff to even CL14 3200 instead of CL16.
In fact U$200 more cheaper but only -5%
@@kevinyoliveira68 damn you guys are so lucky to have an amd cpu priced so cheap in my country its only $30 difference
@@mada5423 This not is only CPU, AMD have a cooler and motherboards Intel are much more expensive than AMD U$200 difference is the total.
Pay more, get a better performance
Then get a Ryzen 7 5800X :)