Mica Miller: Timeline of events leading up to her tragic death

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • The Robeson County Sheriff's Office released new findings, including the 911 call, in the death investigation of 30-year-old Mica Miller, of Myrtle Beach. Miller died by suicide on April 27 at Lumber River State Park. According to Robeson County Medical Examiner Dr. Richard Johnson, Miller died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
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  • @Atypicalkid88
    @Atypicalkid88 3 місяці тому +97

    I was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder from 25 y/o to 32. I was put on lithium after the constant abuse of a narcissist ex and boss. I advocated for myself and I don't have bipolar. I have ADHD.
    I remember my ex was happy to take me to therapy and chug lithium and olanzapine (antipsichotic) to "make me softer and calmer" of course he wanted that, he wanted me confused and seem crazy.
    I remember he even convinced my mother to put me back on the bipolar meds when I started to see right through the abuse and manipulation.
    I almost married this man.. but like Mica, I looked for help, broke it off and did a lot of reading and self work. I AM now thriving, on the right meds and right diagnosis.
    It pains me to know and learn about this case because it hits SO close to home. not a lot of people (specially women) have the energy or resources to get out of that situation. It drains you mentally, emotionally and financially. If you are a person going through something similar please find help, you deserve a love that makes you feel free and safe.

    • @sunnyadams5842
      @sunnyadams5842 3 місяці тому +11

      My parents did it to me @ 21. Dx'd BIPOLAR. Medicated, marginalized, hospitalized ..shut up ad shut down...
      I finally figured out what was wrong with me @ 55 yrs old... Bipolar never felt right and all the counseling a d needs never did a damned thing to really help.
      It was CPTSD all along from Narcissistic abuse and severe neglect by my parents. My father in particular.
      It's been 4 years since leaving my Narc husband ( who was actually married to another woman, kids etc the whole time 18 yrs, just like my dad!! Can you believe how life just keeps giving you something till you get it?? ) on death's door. It's been rough. Every day is a trip. Always will be.
      But about 18 months after figuring out about Narcissism and CPTSD and just got down to work re-regulating and reprogramming myself, learning ALL I could, I started to feel great
      After 42 yrs of BP and I thought I was going absolutely literally crazy after 18 years and getting out of that marriage. I was hearing voices losing time, full delusions...scary stuff...18 months later I started really seeing the light and feeling good.
      But right now I am sobbing in gratitude because I WAS MIca, over and over, but I'm still here...So sad for her. This one was a💩🎶🎶super piece of it!!!

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому +1

      Antidepressants can be a way to get by if we have to. I had mild one for a short time. It really didn't help much because I had a lousy therapist who thought I didn't have real problems.
      I did but she didn't have real solutions. I actually ended up in church counseling, which actually worked a lot better. Not what I expected, but some churches do things better than others. They're all different.

    • @KiwikimNZ
      @KiwikimNZ 3 місяці тому +2

      Oh wow I thought I was reading something I wrote! I was also misdiagnosed with bipolar, I didn’t agree with the diagnoses, but I was dosed up on lithium for years and other antipsychotics and was like a zombie for years. I was suicidal by the end. It was adhd like you and I was diagnosed at 49. How can these people get it so wrong and when you do not respond to these drugs and you haven’t cycled at all, from mania to depression, just stayed depressed there is something wrong. It was a nightmare, I can’t imagine having a partner that was so horrible as well, my husband wasn’t supportive either but not narcissistic, that’s a lot to go through and I’m really sorry you were not heard. I hope you are doing better now. ❤

    • @Atypicalkid88
      @Atypicalkid88 3 місяці тому

      @@sunnyadams5842 I can't even begin to imagine going through that much from people that are supposed to love u and care for you.. I'm happy you're doing better now. I feel everything You said from the psychosis, feeling crazy, feeling empty, lost, confused. You are a warrior! The fact you are still here trying to get better and advocating for yourself is so important!! Big hug and I pray that life can be easy on you and you are able to heal 💙

    • @Atypicalkid88
      @Atypicalkid88 3 місяці тому

      @@KiwikimNZ I'm so sorry :( I really felt what you said! I came across a book called DOING HARM is about how medicine and science has failed women for decades. It's important we listen to oir bodies and advocate for yourself 🩵 I tried everything under the sun, olanzapine, lithium, prozac, paxil, lexapro, amitriptiline, tegretol, gabapentine... The list goes on. I live in a third world country and I don't need a prescription for psych meds so I (with the help of My Best friend and aunt who are doctora) weened myself of all of them and started to take Wellbutrin and modafinil, once I got the full ADHD test results of combined ADHD (mind You after 2 years of requesting this from My therapist - a man) I got my results and now take wellbutrin and ritalin. Life has changed so drastically in 3 months that all I wanna do now is help others going through the same. Narcissistic abuse will have you in for weekly therapy, 3 different chabges on medications and 40 pounds more in a year! That's what happened to me, and I almost married a men full of debt and didnt take care of his diabetes. I was one heart attack from him leaving me alone with those bills and shattered selfsteem and self love. Never looking back!!

  • @rouxney725
    @rouxney725 3 місяці тому +130

    She met him in 2010 when she was 14. Her sister verified that.

    • @mzbatonrougebeauty5267
      @mzbatonrougebeauty5267 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@Ka-Iank groomed were her words specifically.

    • @captainchaos52
      @captainchaos52 3 місяці тому

      She was groomed so much she was married b4 JP & committed adultery to be w/ JP..got it

    • @kmk6942069
      @kmk6942069 3 місяці тому +7

      It is possible that media outlets might have heard her referring to 2010 (and a reporter taking short hand notes might've wrote '10 .... which later reporters probably broadcasted as age 10 instead of the year 2010)....
      Thoughts?

    • @rouxney725
      @rouxney725 3 місяці тому

      @@kmk6942069 I believe her sisters said something to similar to that or was asked and that’s why she verified that she was 14 in 2010. I think they barely started going to that church around that time. I’m not sure finished her father correctly. He was interviewed on the UA-cam channel called “the sidebar”.

    • @roblockhart8410
      @roblockhart8410 3 місяці тому

      2008 I heard? How old was JP?

  • @kiahgypsykarma
    @kiahgypsykarma 3 місяці тому +51

    When a man tells police the victim suffers from episodes .. please be aware this is a tell take sign. My father used to do this. Brian laundrie did this also

    • @peanutButterJe11y
      @peanutButterJe11y 3 місяці тому +6

      This is exactly what came to my mind. He told police that Gabby was "crazy" before he murdered her in a remote place. Talk about projection

    • @ALMcCor
      @ALMcCor 3 місяці тому +6

      It's a well known tactic but I guess the police aren't aware. They also didn't think a tracker on her car is called stalking. She feared for her life and the police said "until he does something, there's nothing we can do". We'll, he's done a lot of somethings and now it's too late. I thought things were getting better for DV victims but its not. I remember being told I was afraid for my life and the police said they could arrest him but he would get released in a few hours. So, that wasn't a good scenario. Once you take the step 8f leaving, you've got to go where they can't find you because leaving them is not allowed and they will go to any lengths necessary to keep control. I'm so angry. Rest easy Mica, you don't have to fight anymore.💜

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому +3

      It must be an age old trick then, because there are a number of guys who do this.

    • @charleynewman4783
      @charleynewman4783 3 місяці тому

      Was gabby murderer before the traffic stop or after

  • @pam2634
    @pam2634 3 місяці тому +73

    If she had filed for divorce why was he able to decide if she were to be cremated? Her family should have been able to make a decision of what to do with her remains. He wanted the evidence gone for sure. Hopefully they have pictures of her body.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 3 місяці тому +8

      There are laws. They were legally married still

    • @j.bellington9733
      @j.bellington9733 3 місяці тому +15

      Agree 100%. He cremated her to "bury" the truth.

    • @BrokenWingsSC
      @BrokenWingsSC 3 місяці тому +16

      Her family took photos of her body for their own evidence! He will be held accountable if not here on earth on his judgment day! Being a pastor is not about power privilege and money ! And it surely doesnt put you side by side with God himself. Jp is a narcissist who was losing his control and power over Mica and he was being exposed for who he truly is and he couldn't stand it any longer! That is a narcissist shown perfectly but they are very dangerous when their mask comes off !

    • @Any-Okra
      @Any-Okra 3 місяці тому +2

      Because they were still legally married and it's up to the spouse. It sucks and he's a monster for doing that but it was still his call

    • @John-sh8yd
      @John-sh8yd 3 місяці тому +9

      Cause he has a shady attorney that’s his bf and part of his church. Her body was found near his property. That same attorney wrote up paperwork to give JP power of attorney before her family could do anything. He’s a sneaky slime ball!

  • @Dolce3339
    @Dolce3339 3 місяці тому +44

    Someone had to put her in the water! Especially if she wanted to be found, she would’ve stayed on land.
    The ending of this video is WRONG! This has nothing to do with depression! This is about abuse!

    • @lifeinaday5618
      @lifeinaday5618 3 місяці тому +1

      Very good point.

    • @WoundedWarrior2012
      @WoundedWarrior2012 3 місяці тому

      They threw the gun in the water, too.

    • @fredfong48
      @fredfong48 3 місяці тому

      Well it could be a mental health issue as well I guess we will never know, I know it is easy to say the husband did it but there are people who struggle with mental depression it is common now a days

  • @alligatorsam5357
    @alligatorsam5357 3 місяці тому +67

    This feels like one of those cliff hanger cases with a lot of concealed details and information not known to the public.

    • @julesmisty
      @julesmisty 3 місяці тому +1

      What makes the public think that they need to be told all the details? There's absolutely no requirement for LE to share everything they know about any case.

    • @HeatherRose2023
      @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому

      @@julesmisty
      Who asked for more details?.

    • @HeatherRose2023
      @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому +1

      @alligatorsam It does indeed.

  • @wephotogal
    @wephotogal 3 місяці тому +74

    If she shot herself, how did she end up in the water along with the gun. Doesn't make sense.

    • @tarheels61
      @tarheels61 3 місяці тому +23

      I've thought the same and why fill her car up was and why did she call in fear of her life and someone said on Facebook that his attorney was an ITT expert and was part of the call AI

    • @catherinerutledge6928
      @catherinerutledge6928 3 місяці тому +4

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @hithere6701
      @hithere6701 3 місяці тому +19

      When people aren't thinking straight and not in the right frame of mind they can do things that completely don't make sense to people that are in a normal frame of mind. Also she probably was kneeling at the edge of the bank and crying when she killed herself makes sense for her to fall into the water and get drifted along.

    • @jodycwilliams
      @jodycwilliams 3 місяці тому +19

      She put her ID in a ziploc to make sure she could be identified. Being by the water is something she read online, I guarantee it. Suicide "tip" sites have suggestions like that for the rare instances that people survive a gunshot or poisoning but are incapacitated. The water is there to make sure she drowns if the shot wasn't fatal.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 3 місяці тому +12

      @@jodycwilliamswow well said. Hadn’t thought about this. Makes sense that she would step near the water. Yes! And The fact that she pawned some jewelry and purchased the gun and that’s the gun used by her then yes she definitely did unalive herself. At first when I saw other videos of her in the pawn shop I seriously thought she was buying it for protection but now I’m convinced she did this to self. I do believe he drove her to her dispair. Awww poor girl. It seems she was trying to find a way out and wanted to just end this torturous time and just wanted to be at peace. Damn smh

  • @ALMcCor
    @ALMcCor 3 місяці тому +10

    Have the Myrtle Beach or Horry County offered any reason while this man was not arrested for stalking, harassment? There are laws against this type of behavior. Why was nothing done? 20 times she asked for help and they did nothing. I want to know why!?????????

    • @user-cg5fw5kx3s
      @user-cg5fw5kx3s 3 місяці тому +4

      Because police were and are covering for him! Police need to be investigated.

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому +3

      Because he's a pastor, and police don't like to prosecute pastors, celebrities or authorities. (Or Freemasons?)

  • @courtneywilliams7988
    @courtneywilliams7988 3 місяці тому +6

    I don’t care what anybody says. She did not kill herself. Her husband killed her.

    • @Stayyyonit
      @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому +1

      You are stupid. How hard is it to believe that she killed herself due to mental health issues and trauma from the narcissistic abuse she endured from her husband. Two truth can exist.

    • @infinitejest.4994
      @infinitejest.4994 3 місяці тому +1

      We really don’t know that.

  • @HeatherRose2023
    @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому +16

    JP gives me Jim Jones vibes. Don’t drink the KoolAid, people!!

  • @kimberlymartin4434
    @kimberlymartin4434 3 місяці тому +14

    She was abused-plain and simple. Look at how he’s using the death of Mica in his sermons at church. He’s a narcissist and she told I think police that he was grooming her! Wake up MEN this really happens! I pray for her family and her friends. God will have His Justice!

  • @HeatherRose2023
    @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому +21

    Mica buys gas at 1:27pm 33 miles from the state park, but doesn’t call 911 until 2:54pm. That’s a lot of time between the two…87 minutes to be exact…87 minutes to make a 40 minute drive? What else happened to Mica during that time? Who else heard the gunshot? And why did the witness say he only heard one when multiple bullets were found?

    • @Teresa-tn4we
      @Teresa-tn4we 3 місяці тому

      There were two caseings and 1 live round found.

    • @HeatherRose2023
      @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Teresa-tn4we
      And yet the man fishing only heard one gunshot. Odd.

    • @CarlosHTX94
      @CarlosHTX94 3 місяці тому +1

      you could be a detective 🕵️

    • @reprovedcandy
      @reprovedcandy 3 місяці тому +4

      Wow. Someone committing suicide wasn't ruthlessly efficient in their death? You're telling me she didn't speedrun her suicide? Woah. Ever consider someone in their last moments may be having second thoughts or wanting to cherish their last few moments?

    • @ralphdrees4413
      @ralphdrees4413 3 місяці тому

      I don’t know about the rest of it, but the length of time for a person killing themselves isn’t problematic. She could have been having second thoughts or just sitting and thinking etc.

  • @dixielee3037
    @dixielee3037 3 місяці тому +50

    Since he had a tracker on her car, maybe he knew she stopped at a pawn shop and bought a gun (for her own protection), followed her to the park, and made her call 911. Then he shot her? Her 911 call sounds forced and not like a person who is about to commit suicide. I do not have all the details, but she stopped to buy gas (did she fill her tank full?) and a drink. She appeared in good form and smiling when she purchased the gun. Maybe those questions have already been addressed, but I will research further.

    • @tarheels61
      @tarheels61 3 місяці тому +12

      This is what I believe and possibly part of the call was AI and she was in fear of her life and I dated a narcissist they try to make you think you're crazy because they gaslight you and the only way to catch them is to record them and keep it and svoternshot their lies and I'm a fighter but I didn't know what a narcissist was until friends even out eating heard his narcissistic rage's and now I'm called by God to try to help others and I will try

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 3 місяці тому +2

      @@tarheels61what?!!!! Please re-write this lots of gibberish

    • @j.bellington9733
      @j.bellington9733 3 місяці тому

      Agree 1000% The call seems "staged" and force. Not believeable.

    • @Any-Okra
      @Any-Okra 3 місяці тому +7

      That is complete nonsense. The cctv didn't show anyone follow her into the park and he was in another state. Both things were proven.

    • @Any-Okra
      @Any-Okra 3 місяці тому

      ​@preciousgem6506 it's also a bunch nonsense. Ppl have wild imagination. AI ??? Really ??
      Maybe it was aliens !? I mean come on..this is a tragic case of suicide.

  • @ginnyhuddleston5826
    @ginnyhuddleston5826 3 місяці тому +29

    In my opinion SC is lawless! I was screwed badly by an attorney "I didn't hire'" she told me she was going to damage me badly and she did as she stated !! I tried complaining to the BAR in SC to no avail! And all of this started over an incident done by a NC attorney ..so I was shocked and my assumption was they worked together behind the scenes and I feel they profited from the incident which the end result was I lost my 29 year old son!! I contacted NC BAR as well to no avail! So I moved away from the Carolinas that I loved! Prayers for Micas family! These good ole boys in county government & city municipalities need better training "in my opinion" and I know the saying !!

    • @ToledoOhio
      @ToledoOhio 3 місяці тому +2

      I'm sorry may God keep you and your family always ❤

    • @tarheels61
      @tarheels61 3 місяці тому +3

      I live in Columbus County and my ex husband was a lt with the sheriff's office and my boys (two youngest) had things to say he did and I wasn't allowed to file a report. Also the sheriff told me he didn't care and not the sheriff now serving and he wasn't made to pay child support for 2 years and 10 months so yes it's as crooked as can be and I'm sorry for what happened to you. I've also thought about moving but that was 18 years ago and I'm still here among the corruption

    • @TheParkerShow
      @TheParkerShow 3 місяці тому +1

      This was a north carolina case

    • @BrokenWingsSC
      @BrokenWingsSC 3 місяці тому

      SC is as crooked as they can be! Alex Murdaugh proved that to be the truth !

    • @HeatherRose2023
      @HeatherRose2023 3 місяці тому +1

      Not surprised to hear that. Just look at the Alex Murdaugh

  • @deborahbaker4770
    @deborahbaker4770 3 місяці тому +19

    Hearing her cry must have been so haunting and sad 😢 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @multipass888
    @multipass888 3 місяці тому +5

    It saddens me to yet again see a case where the death is chalked up to a mental health disorder. Before you diagnose someone, look closely at who they are surrounded by.
    Look very close, because psychopaths are very hard to see for what they are, often the case with narcissists too. They will make the victim look like the crazy one, and of course the victim will be acting crazy because that is the only coping mechanism they have left to deal with the situation. They speak up along the way, but when no one is listening the next step is 'potentially' suicide. Then the abuser justifies it with 'mental illness'. I can easily say this from personal experience. And to my now wise and much older self this husband of hers gives me the absolute creeps!

  • @torilee5584
    @torilee5584 3 місяці тому +9

    Everyone thinking she did it is delusional. This man groomed her, manipulated her into thinking she wanted to marry him. Shortly after they married he became shady and she found out some horrific things about this church and him. She was fleeing and he was able to delete her and make it seem like it was self inflicted. I’m glad I saw that the fbi are investigating.

    • @reprovedcandy
      @reprovedcandy 3 місяці тому +5

      We're not the delusional ones. Delusion is denying the abundance of evidence in favor of complete conspiracies.

    • @lifesajoke6965
      @lifesajoke6965 3 місяці тому +2

      @@reprovedcandy this is why I'm terrified of jury trials

    • @VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh
      @VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh 3 місяці тому +2

      *So the man was a pastor, had a child unmarried, then had an affair when he had 4 children with his wife, and of all people, with his friend's wife?*
      *So she was married, had an affair with a married man that had four children and divorce her husband that were best friends with the "pastor she married after.*

  • @Stayyyonit
    @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому +4

    Where are all the Christian’s saying she couldn’t have done this to herself because she loved the Lord? Someone can love the Lord and struggle with mental health issues. Yes, her husband provoked her mental health symptoms, but she did k!l1 herself. The ignorance of mental health within the church is the reason why so many Christian’s struggle in silence and they feel they have to take such measures for relief and peace.

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому

      There are videos coming out showing it's easy even for an amateur to make an AI. One guy made one that sounded just like the 911 call. JP Miller has a lawyer friend who owns a lot of land next to the stat park and he is also an expert at AI.

    • @Stayyyonit
      @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому

      @@lizh1988 get the F on with your conspiracy theories 🤣

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому

      @@Stayyyonit Not mine, a lot of people's. It's easy to make ai now.

    • @user-kc3ep8cw3h
      @user-kc3ep8cw3h 3 місяці тому

      I agree

  • @ToledoOhio
    @ToledoOhio 3 місяці тому +31

    Mica knew JP was a false teacher as we are warned against in The Book of Jude.
    Mica Knew she was beautifully and wonderfully made according to our Creator God Almighty and JP made her have a surgery that he knew was an abomination to The Final and Finished works by Christ on Calvary.

    • @peacelovejoyandhappiness
      @peacelovejoyandhappiness 3 місяці тому +5

      What sort of surgery did Mica have?

    • @jodycwilliams
      @jodycwilliams 3 місяці тому +3

      MIca robbed the church and had her own problems.
      He may be a creep, but she almost definitely just killed herself and it is a tragedy, but that's about it.

    • @peacelovejoyandhappiness
      @peacelovejoyandhappiness 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jodycwilliams you think Mica was stealing from her church? Do you feel that her husband had contributed to her decision due to his narcissistic ways? I definitely do. I think she pulled the trigger but, was mentally abused by her soon to be x.

    • @jodycwilliams
      @jodycwilliams 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@peacelovejoyandhappiness You're assuming things are true that she spread to her friends while going through an acrimonious divorce. People lie in divorces, a lot.

    • @Zzz2x
      @Zzz2x 3 місяці тому

      True

  • @blonde2thebone
    @blonde2thebone 3 місяці тому +11

    She daily wrote down everything.... so why NO suicide note ? And, why was she smiling while purchasing the gun?? Additionally, he was a very gifted pianist.... He needed her because of her amazing vocal talents... he knew it would help grow the Church. And as for the 911 operator..... She didn't try to discourage her from killing herself. Strange.

    • @Stayyyonit
      @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому +2

      So everyone who commit suicide writes a note? Please go educate yourself on SI.

    • @slamhead
      @slamhead 3 місяці тому

      A lot of people who finally decide to suicide find a weight lifted off them. Family and friends later see the signs of this.

    • @infinitejest.4994
      @infinitejest.4994 3 місяці тому

      People do not always leave a note. Many don’t.

    • @lifesajoke6965
      @lifesajoke6965 3 місяці тому +1

      A smile means absolutely nothing.

  • @andyeoli67
    @andyeoli67 3 місяці тому +3

    One of the weirdest moves beautiful Mica made the day she supposedly killed herself, was that she filled her tank with gas....Why would you fill your tank with gas the day you are planning to kill yourself???... I haven't heard anyone talking about that little detail....

  • @Gingermarie745
    @Gingermarie745 3 місяці тому +12

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  • @chelisakearney338
    @chelisakearney338 3 місяці тому +5

    This is such a purplexing case but if anyone personally knows how certain people were right before they killed themselves, would admit that the person had already condemned themselves and that any objective amount of resistance from sources around them would be played to the side. Even in some cases the person will purposefully lie to family and friends already having the quite serious intent on believing things are better off without them here. It is a sad reality, but even tho the Husband seems heartless, it also seems like legitimate solace that the wife had succumbed to the mental illness that she had suffered from all those yrs. Idk but it’s seeming to weigh out to me. Of course in today’s outlook the husband is the first obvious answer but that’s the PROBLEM, we live in a society where anything is possible. Believe what you will the answer will come out eventually. Whats done in the dark will come to light! I agree with that sentiment WHOLEHEARTEDLY ‼️💯

  • @kaitlyndavis6840
    @kaitlyndavis6840 3 місяці тому +23

    Creepy he is wearing her necklace in the interview.

  • @HAFunnyClips
    @HAFunnyClips Місяць тому +1

    He was in another state when she passed-police verified this timeline and she talked about killing herself to a 911 caller, end of story! Unless there was a hit man, case closed! She killed herself!

  • @PariahboyLIVE
    @PariahboyLIVE 3 місяці тому +1

    Why would JP say..."I want justice for Mica too" when he was taliking outside of his home? If he thought it was suicide,why would he feel the need to get "justice" for her?????

  • @Sistershane
    @Sistershane 3 місяці тому +3

    John-Paul-did all these horrible things to Mica-if it was ALL her-why would he do these terrible things???She has him on video-and reported him-he was smiling when she took a video of him-about what he'd done-
    No-the mental illness suffered-was HIM!

  • @darlenewatkins3959
    @darlenewatkins3959 3 місяці тому +12

    I bet he threatened someone she cared about unless she did what she did!!Gun in water how why because finger prints washes off??? How did gun get in water??

    • @robinsonnier6887
      @robinsonnier6887 3 місяці тому +1

      Right. How do you kill yourself and the gun is not beside you

    • @melanielynne0414
      @melanielynne0414 2 місяці тому

      Hey is the barrel bent? Time stamp: 3:49😮

  • @ThrifterPickerShipper
    @ThrifterPickerShipper 3 місяці тому +7

    A forensic assessment of her 911 call needs to be closely evaluated because it most certainly sounds like AI to me.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 3 місяці тому +1

      Her dad said in another video that that isn’t her voice

    • @ThrifterPickerShipper
      @ThrifterPickerShipper 3 місяці тому +2

      @@preciousgem6506 Right. And he would know huh. It sounds like he put together AI for the call. It's her voice but her father said the cadence was all off and it sounded slow. Technology is getting quite scary if you ask me.

  • @DeeNearOne
    @DeeNearOne 3 місяці тому +5

    Aahh So .... the biggest factor seems to be the allegation of transfering church's money to personal account .........

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому +1

      If it was the $2,000 transfer it was also put back later.

    • @MyMySharona
      @MyMySharona 3 місяці тому +1

      There is an interview with Micas best friend on another youtube channel and she said that JP her husband had been misusing church funds and trying to set her up for that also.

    • @lizh1988
      @lizh1988 3 місяці тому

      @@MyMySharona JP has talked about her being committed, but she has said he put her in a mental institution after she tried to expose him.
      After she died he used her social accounts to post things, and possibly always had her account passwords etc. Very controlling guy.

  • @louettesommers8594
    @louettesommers8594 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you for sharing this.
    The background music is just too much for me.

  • @han1218
    @han1218 3 місяці тому +1

    The most suspicious part is how the husband / ex-husband fake cries and goes the extra mile to appear that he's got nothing to do with it. He doesn't seem concerned for her, but for himself.

  • @SCORPIO88848
    @SCORPIO88848 3 місяці тому +4

    So sad

  • @leahdorsey7856
    @leahdorsey7856 3 місяці тому +1

    It seems everytime I hear of someone taking lithium its always coming from someone else who is being looked at for being a handler?! This guy, Jamie Spears, the whole Bam Margera turmoil. Theres always someone saying "whenever they are off the lithium" 😮.

  • @K.T-
    @K.T- Місяць тому +1

    Rest in peace beautiful....💐

  • @lisabierman4095
    @lisabierman4095 Місяць тому

    I'm so sorry for your loss it's heart breaking. She just seemed like a wonderful person. So sad!

  • @zomiller5754
    @zomiller5754 3 місяці тому +3

    I grew up in this church and was there when Mica and John Paul had first announced they were together. He saw her grow up in that church and I would not have been surprised at all if he did groom her. He actually had married her to her first husband in that church (I was there doing the proposal). And I was there when he announced that he had been cheating on his long time wife with Mica. Mica was only 19 at the time. He was twice her age. He might not have killed her but he definitely fucked her up in some regard.

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 3 місяці тому

      Are you still at that church? If not, why did you leave?

    • @zomiller5754
      @zomiller5754 3 місяці тому +3

      @@hope4all366 having been in the church since I was younger, my family decided to leave after he admitted the affair.

    • @hope4all366
      @hope4all366 3 місяці тому

      @@zomiller5754 Thank you for your kind response.

    • @ireneroy8820
      @ireneroy8820 3 місяці тому

      He does all this wrong as a church pastor and people still stay at the church??divorce to marry mica, he was cheating on his wife with mica? WOW!

    • @Stayyyonit
      @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely!

  • @nataleeclontz851
    @nataleeclontz851 3 місяці тому +4

    Yall knew all this was going on but didn't do anything to help

  • @faithpappano6011
    @faithpappano6011 2 місяці тому +1

    It's very possible that Mica was implying that she really was, in fear of taking her own life. If she didn't give more explanation regarding that statement, it's possible she really did commit suicide.
    A cheating or other wise romantically involved Pastor husband would be devastating.
    Ok. This is a little over the top but what if she wanted to make suspect her estranged husband?
    That statement would surely do the job.

  • @angelmeade6927
    @angelmeade6927 3 місяці тому +1

    How did she not know where she was?

  • @krens7955
    @krens7955 3 місяці тому +1

    I think this is a suicide. This happens to other normal people too with mental issues. We pray for her soul and also her Husband and their children. Sad that she didn’t have support during those times.

  • @Trevor_tellsthetails
    @Trevor_tellsthetails 3 місяці тому +3

    This is a crazy murder case if this is true

  • @dominikabanel340
    @dominikabanel340 8 днів тому

    she was killed somewhere else and brought to the water in lumer river national park. her prolonged stay at the petrol station was to mark her presence in the area

  • @Raine_S3546
    @Raine_S3546 3 місяці тому +1

    If his attorney had property near the park I bet he went there and called her to meet him and that's why nobody was following her..I think he would do just about anything to get her sence she filed for divorce..all of this doesn't make sense but it will all come out..I just hope and pray her family will stay behind it!! RIP BEAUTIFUL LADY. MICA FRANCIS..

  • @amusingtime3903
    @amusingtime3903 3 місяці тому +1

    Is like someone with her made her call 911 to kill herself 🤔

  • @spoildchik1
    @spoildchik1 3 місяці тому +1

    I still dont believe it was suicide.... too many questions left unanswered and he gives snake/narcissist / manipulator vibes

  • @peanutButterJe11y
    @peanutButterJe11y 3 місяці тому +2

    He did it

  • @pnkflod
    @pnkflod 3 місяці тому +2

    #JusticforMica

  • @jimmyv1753
    @jimmyv1753 3 місяці тому

    The manner of death was not described by her husband. It was described by her and discovered by the police.

  • @JungleYT
    @JungleYT 3 місяці тому +3

    *So very sad... Such a beautiful but troubled young woman...*

    • @cynthiafortier2540
      @cynthiafortier2540 3 місяці тому +2

      Her ONLY trouble was running into a true narcissist who targeted her. They are hard to shake!! I know that from experience unfortunately!!

  • @shirl974
    @shirl974 3 місяці тому +1

    Beyond tragic 😢

  • @melanielynne0414
    @melanielynne0414 2 місяці тому

    Why is gun barrel bent? Time stamp 3:49?

  • @sergeantstadankoakalardass1046
    @sergeantstadankoakalardass1046 3 місяці тому +10

    This bs. That gas station is in nc right on the road the park is at.

    • @kaitlyndavis6840
      @kaitlyndavis6840 3 місяці тому +1

      According to the receipt, the address of the gas station is South Carolina

    • @USClight
      @USClight 3 місяці тому +2

      Lumber River State Park in North Carolina is about 40 min drive from the 41 Grocery & Grill in Mullins, SC

  • @mohammadbhattibhatti7005
    @mohammadbhattibhatti7005 3 місяці тому +1

    He killed her

  • @Boophillips12
    @Boophillips12 3 місяці тому

    How did the gun make it in the water after the alleged suicide

  • @jane156
    @jane156 Місяць тому

    So tragic.

  • @Petro-wp8xt
    @Petro-wp8xt 3 місяці тому +1

    4:28 touching the nose while talking can be a sign of being less than honest.

    • @ralphdrees4413
      @ralphdrees4413 3 місяці тому

      Can also be a sign of somebody who has been crying.

  • @Suri-o7w
    @Suri-o7w 28 днів тому

    This story is heartbreakingly sad and rather disappointing knowing the woman felt unfairly treated 😭😭😭 it seems as though she probably felt agonizing persecution continually on a daily basis and probably just honestly felt like ending her life would relieve her from such agonizing stress disappointment and PROFOUND sorrows that the INHUMANE world can bring on the misery sorrow and agonizing pain can literally weigh you down‼️‼️‼️‼️ (LORDY Lou , please have gentle mercy i just had a heart attack last Saturday night Oh my God 🙏 🙏 😭😭 literally thought i was sure to die ‼️‼️‼️‼️) Ohh my God 😭😭 😭😭 I am IMMENSELY sorry I believe i heard someone saying she was only 30 years old 🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️RIP Mica Miller ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @tagaway6173
    @tagaway6173 3 місяці тому

    No only was he triggered that she was leaving, but she was talking in social media.
    I agree we need to record our feelings and thoughts 🙏🏼🙏🏼 but send it to friends and family. It was hurting his ego to hear her starting to heal and feel liberated.
    Sometimes we think we are never going to be able to leave a certain relationship, so we don't decord anything, we hardly talk to family members about what's going on... I just have an advice "record, record, record evidence" even if you are not thinking going go the police. Even if you finally leave and don't have to use it. Do it just in case.

  • @4evagrace789
    @4evagrace789 2 місяці тому

    Wait if she did that to herself, how’s the gun in the water?

  • @comeandletusreason
    @comeandletusreason 2 місяці тому

    The fact that there was a tracking device on her car, who bought it?? Who slashed her tires must be someone mad her… so if her husband is tired and his gf too, then one of them is to be checked out! I think when she made that call she was told to say that. If not the husband , is it the gf or did she paid someone to do that? He should of asked the doctors to change her medicines bcozcof the side effects, but that wouldn’t make her pull $ before going! Someone wanted more money.

  • @Mark1959Holladay
    @Mark1959Holladay 17 днів тому

    No one knows what happened speculation, rumor, and gossip. I'm a 70's veteran one of the 1% who served in our military and have seen things I could not unsee until Christ took them away, He says to find someone guilty you have to have witnesses. We live in a very fallen world I know I have seen it up close, trust in Christ justice is going to reign, the King will make sure of that. Blessings and prayers to the grieved.

  • @jamesbillington9280
    @jamesbillington9280 3 місяці тому +1

    Looking more and more like a murder.

  • @user-ve8jw9ki1z
    @user-ve8jw9ki1z 3 місяці тому

    My question is why didn’t Mica tell someone that he was grooming her? She was young and he knew better I just don’t understand why she didn’t tell a friend,auntie,uncle or her Mom or Dad? I think they both had mental health issues. If their paths would have never crossed she would still be alive.

  • @elisepoulain6856
    @elisepoulain6856 3 місяці тому

    So because she was mentally fragile, that is an excuse for abusing her, bad mouthing her in numerous sermons, turning the church against her so she felt alone, and posting nude pics of her online? Tell the WHOLE story about how even if he didn't kill her directly, he drove her to the suicide!

  • @carollangendorf8569
    @carollangendorf8569 3 місяці тому +4

    Shes now,in the love of God RIP

  • @chasengravitt7115
    @chasengravitt7115 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing. This happens more and more everyday and it is sad
    We need laws against these women getting driven to this action because of abuse !! They, make us kill our selves they should be accountable for abuse and murder . She didn't have mental problems she was made to believe she did have them .

  • @lisatowe778
    @lisatowe778 3 місяці тому

    No one knows anything but what little is known.
    She may or may not have had mental illness. People will armchair quarterback with zero evidence.
    Mental illness is a terrible thing. It’s real and people suffering often lose perspective and hope
    God be with everyone suffering with it

  • @TruckieLooks4Aliens
    @TruckieLooks4Aliens 3 місяці тому

    What I don’t get, & this will sound insensitive- but why is this getting attention? There’s so many missing ppl that are in danger. There’s really nothing here. She committed suicide. He should be investigated for rpe.
    1. Mental issues 2. Stole money 3. Divorce 4. Bought gun 5. Was in mental hospital

  • @sweeney.clan.1
    @sweeney.clan.1 3 місяці тому

    I am curious about the bipolar and if that is verified. I witnessed a family member constantly lie about their spouse and yell abuse and affairs and drunk when she was the abusive one. I don't take anything at face value after that. I will wait for more evidence before having an opinion one way or the other.

  • @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables
    @AnnaAnnieAnneofGreenGables 3 місяці тому +3

    Alison looks a lot like Mica.

    • @FlyFreeS7
      @FlyFreeS7 3 місяці тому +1

      They look like sisters! Blew my mind. 🤯

  • @elijahsullivan9607
    @elijahsullivan9607 3 місяці тому

    ABC news need to turn their spellcheck on when their quoting people.

  • @user-cg5fw5kx3s
    @user-cg5fw5kx3s 3 місяці тому

    The police need to be investigated. If a police officer stopped her she would have stopped and lured into that location and someone else made the call. This doesn’t make sense!!!!!

    • @lifesajoke6965
      @lifesajoke6965 3 місяці тому

      Just gonna ignore the fact she bought a gun from a pawn shop right before?

  • @jamesbillington9280
    @jamesbillington9280 3 місяці тому +1

    Mica: I'm going to kill myself. Dispatcher: Let me make sure I got the correct location.

  • @lifeinaday5618
    @lifeinaday5618 3 місяці тому

    I would investigate the one who found her . Definitely see if he knows micas husband. The way she sounded in the 911 call literally seemed like she was told what to say. I hear “want my family to find me” so without emotion like reading a paper. This is very unnerving. Prayers that justice will be served for the evil doer who brought harm to her in every way! In Jesus mighty name!

  • @RAILROADSONG0465
    @RAILROADSONG0465 3 місяці тому

    HUSBAND KILLED HER WITH THE HELP OF HIS LOVER.

  • @simplyjane92
    @simplyjane92 3 місяці тому

    I’d be curious in regards to other facts such as certain text messages and stalking if maybe there wasn’t really bi polar but reactions due to long term narcissistic abuse and trauma since she met her husband when still a young teen. Maybe we will never know the full story. Praying she rests in peace and her family gets the answers and justice they are searching for❤

  • @heatherroberson1648
    @heatherroberson1648 3 місяці тому

    Victims of narcissistic abuse are often diagnosed as bipolar.

  • @JillOlbrys-fy9pl
    @JillOlbrys-fy9pl 3 місяці тому +1

    Dr. Jerry Savelle anyone looked into his passing? Maybe he knew too much?

  • @gingergoodner9363
    @gingergoodner9363 3 місяці тому

    Attorney should have used spell check.

  • @WoundedWarrior2012
    @WoundedWarrior2012 3 місяці тому

    He did this or paid for it to be done! The police are on his side because he is a pastor.

  • @Rhonda-b57
    @Rhonda-b57 16 днів тому

    The crying the fisherman heard was JP!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬He KILLED HER!!! Thats just my thoughts

  • @jordanbarrett4790
    @jordanbarrett4790 2 місяці тому

    I hope he goes to prison for life

  • @andreanaylor4773
    @andreanaylor4773 3 місяці тому

    If you've never been through a situation like this, when you met and were together with the same person for a long time whonis a master manipulator you will never begin to understand. This poor baby. She was brainwashed. Omg

  • @lauraharvey7424
    @lauraharvey7424 3 місяці тому +4

    Where was she for 2 and a half hours ??? She stoped in the Dollar General across from Dicks pawn shop on 17

  • @Morristown337
    @Morristown337 Місяць тому

    That 911 call doesn't sound like the way she talks if you listen closely. This is 2024 and especially down here in the south are stories all over the car radio about the crazy things have been doing with AI voice over the past 2 years. How do we know that it is not an AI generated 911 call? If it is somehow real, then it must be under duress.

  • @rainbowgaming8441
    @rainbowgaming8441 3 місяці тому

    no one takes money for them self and kills them self
    no one puts gas in there car and kills them self
    she was not sad or was giving her self away and did hide in sad ness she didnt kill her self we all know this
    very fishy story that needs to stay open.........mica is looking down on use to break this case

  • @Heylo12345
    @Heylo12345 3 місяці тому

    The fact she bought the gun & called 911 tells me she did k*ll herself BUT i do believe there was a lot of weird stuff going on in this marriage

  • @deniseporell7439
    @deniseporell7439 3 місяці тому

    So now that the camera has been reviewed at the gun shot. How did his truck show up in two places. Someone bought a similar truck?
    Maybe rented one?
    How did he manage to get her to follow him to the lake?
    He's a flight risk just like dad....

    • @user-cg5fw5kx3s
      @user-cg5fw5kx3s 3 місяці тому

      Then he made changes to his truck on the rear bumper 2 days after. The park borders with his attorneys property and his attorney specializing in A.I ???

  • @Crayz919
    @Crayz919 3 місяці тому

    I saw pics of gun recovered barrel was clearly bent and her hand being slammed in car door during struggle is consistent with the bent gun barrel and hand bruises... check out gun recovery photos !

  • @beverlysmith6539
    @beverlysmith6539 Місяць тому

    This story doesn't make any sense

  • @robinsonnier6887
    @robinsonnier6887 3 місяці тому

    They found a gun in the water? After she shot herself?

    • @Stayyyonit
      @Stayyyonit 3 місяці тому +1

      lol, how hard is it to believe that she shot herself by the lake, fell in the lake after she shot herself along with the gun that she used. You people lack so much awareness.

  • @Lulubelle0517
    @Lulubelle0517 2 місяці тому

    This man is a narcissist and abused her and made her look crazy to cover up his own ass. If she truly killed herself it’s bc she couldn’t take it anymore and he’s still responsible for her death. It was prob him using her identity to steal money too.

  • @sonyagraske376
    @sonyagraske376 3 місяці тому

    💜#JUSTICEFORMICA.... that beautiful child of GOD, IS GOING TO GET THE LAST WORD.
    HER PRESENCE ON THIS EARTH WILL BE FOREVER MORTALIZED AND ETCHED IN MEMORY.
    WE HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU BEAUTIFUL CHILD OF GOD.
    R.I.P. AS YOU NOW CAN. 😇

  • @BettyWormsley
    @BettyWormsley 10 годин тому

    My kids dad accused and had me committed this shit its real

  • @sherri-be5pw
    @sherri-be5pw 3 місяці тому

    He really pushing the she's mentally ill narrative but why was she having mental issues. I dont think her mental health was as bad as he Made Her and Everyone else think it was. He was the cause of her problems. He should be charged with putting the tracker on her car at the very least

  • @samanthapayne77
    @samanthapayne77 3 місяці тому

    So sad, she was obviously loved by many. I feel so bad for the guy that sold her the gun- u know hes questioning what he does for a living but i hope he knows hes essential for our survival as "free men and women" who will never have to fight their own government. poor guy, hope he knows how many lives he's helped protect vs this one person who chose to use it for her own harm. On another note theres a father who saved his whole family from sumone who totally meant them harm and found himself dead on the lawn.

  • @lisagandora7181
    @lisagandora7181 3 місяці тому

    There is documented mental illness, she suffered from something- bipolar who knows, the fact is that there was something going on, and whether or not this was taken advantage of is the question. She was so young when they met so who knows how much mind play there was there, I would guess a lot.
    He most likely has the skill to be convincing, manipulative and persuasive. People in leadership roles have these skills and type A personality. She was definitely not as strong minded.
    Based on the timeline, she was never seen with anyone, there is no evidence that anyone was with her, and the 911 call she made was clear that she wanted her family to be able to find her, if she was abducted or forced I do not believe she would have had the opportunity to do that, nor do I believe if someone else was going to pull the trigger they would have not wanted her found, as much true crime as I watch they always hide the crime as long as they can. 98% of the time, the story is that they left, and they end up reporting them "missing"- I do believe that she took her own life and there are multiple factors that played a role. Hopefully, the investigation will uncover all the facts. Such a tragic thing to happen.

  • @Moochiedadon222
    @Moochiedadon222 2 місяці тому

    It’s likes she could’ve committed suicide then it’s possible he had something to do w it.

  • @dianas1252
    @dianas1252 3 місяці тому +1

    I hope she didnt kill herself for him cause he is by

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 3 місяці тому +1

      Doubt that. I believe she just wanted peace and wanted to be left alone. She just couldn’t do it anymore

    • @chelisakearney338
      @chelisakearney338 3 місяці тому

      @@preciousgem6506me too