Just trying to capitalise on the heavily discounted pre-lockdown, pre-registered stock that needs shifting quickly before the new lower production volumes arrive in the showrooms. Unfortunately it’s more or less impossible to book a short-notice test drive at the dealerships at the moment so am having to buy ‘blind’. There are plenty of reviews of these on YT, but I just wanted to say yours is extremely helpful - an honest, unblinkered, real world assessment of the ownership experience. The 420d M Sport in Sapphire Black arrives in 2 weeks - your review helped settle any lingering anxieties and now can hardly wait. Thanks again, it was invaluable.
Cam Wat that’s one of the best comments I’ve received so thank you and I appreciate it! I’m glad my review had some sort of value and helped you out. It’s a good choice you’ve got there, so much better looking than the upcoming model too!
Believe me in the rain and ice, the X-drive does come in handy. The RWD on a rainy day doesn’t even keep straight under acceleration, and that’s with a 20D engine.
lol get better tyres then. tyres makes a much bigger difference than drive train. a 4wd car on summer tyres will have less grip and control than a 2wd car on proper tyres for the conditions
@@hamdanali2036 already factored that in, X-Drive simply gives you grip where RWD doesn’t. You can’t argue with basic physics and engineering. RWD is more dynamic, but you trade off on stability/traction.
I picked up the new g20 320d sportline with xdrive,and i watched your video because i heard that the driving experience is About the same.Really enjoyed this pov video,beautiful road.
Thank you very much, love to hear this sort of feedback! Happy new year! I actually did a review on the G20 320d xDrive on my channel last summer. It’s literally the perfect all rounder, great choice!
Ninnam just watched your 320d video and the quality of your review got even better,im getting mine thursday.Hope i have as much fun in the sportline as you did in the M paket.I live in slovakia and the roads here arent the best,thats why i Didnt want the M suspension and also why i only got 18 inch wheels
@@petermelicher6908 Thank you! You’re going to love it honestly! My only advice don’t get run flat tyres, it makes the car worse. Get some Michelin’s on the car and you’re ready to go :)
Liam Clarke Yeah its a hot hatch killer in terms of performance, not bad for a 4 cylinder diesel hatch! Thanks, I was meant to get videos out sooner but things got in the way. I have got some more videos lined up for this channel, but with this pandemic being around I’m not really allowed to film 😉
@@NathanMannin Yeah it sucks at the moment being stuck in. Can't wait for more content to come out, you're definitely on to something. I love your real talk and style of videos, not sounding like a boring TV presenter!
Liam Clarke oh whoops, I thought this comment was about my 125d video! That was what my comment was referring to, sorry 🤣 Thank you so much really appreciate those comments, I’m still new to all of this and hoping to improve and glad you enjoyed the video! :)
@@NathanMannin Ah thats ok. Honestly that video on your 125d is fantastic, I'm going to get a new car next year and I think I'm sold on a 125d. Either that or a 435d! Stay safe :)
Liam Clarke Cheers:) interesting choice there as in terms of cars they’re two worlds apart, depending how deep your pockets are I would love the 435d. 435d has the inline 6 cylinder engine which actually sounds decent for a diesel. Mega performance with a 0 to 60 time near 4.5 seconds, 470ftlb, 313 bhp and it’s a super smooth and refined engine with effortless low down torque. M sport variants on 4 series come with pro nav, Harman kardon, heated seats, electric seats and the sliding seatbelt pushing thing. So you get a lot more kit as standard with the 4 as apposed to the 125d. Obviously running costs will be more with the 4 though. Both are great cars, but in terms of value the 435d’s are as low as £13k on autotrader which is an absolute steal in my opinion. Depends how much mileage you’re looking at when buying one:)
how are the 19inch wheels to drive? do they feel rough? Im thinking of going from 18 inch to 19 but worried it will ruin drive comfort especially on the rough roads around me.
If you can then I would definitely try driving both with 18’s and 19’s. From memory it wasn’t a bad ride and my roads aren’t perfect either, the 19’s also look so much better and well suited to the 4 series. Also, what tyres are you using? They can help with ride comfort a lot as well!
Thank you! I would say the 420d is definitely the better comfort cruiser and I would say looks better internally and externally. Better practicality, comfort, looks, Harmon/kardon sounds better than the lower models like the 1/2 series. Let’s not forget about the sliding seatbelt which is brilliant! I had xdrive which was amazing for the snow and helps in the wet, but better tyres can also help in the wet. Depending on your driving style could decide whether xdrive is a necessity for you or not. If you’re on the A5 a lot driving to Milton Keynes then I wouldn’t be too fussed about not having it. You can get it sideways on each of those million roundabouts they have going through MK 😉
@@Samuel18r Fantastic, thank you very much! I’m really glad I could help, I suppose the 2 series being shorter wheel base and being lighter would make it more nimble and fun to drive. But I suppose it’s what floats your boat I guess! There’s more positives to the 4 than there is with the 2 in my opinion : )
Cheers let me see 420d using a bit of power which is what I was worried about but seems good, as I'm buying one blind in lockdown tomorrow, thanks for your vid 👍
Due to budget I’m deliberating between getting either 4 series 420d gran coupe or 1 series 118d shadow edition. What would you recommend after driving two similar cars yourself? I’m looking to save some money through fuel costs as currently have a 1.6 petrol focus which is also £210 to tax per year where I see the 4 series is only £30. Just worried having a longer saloon style bmw may be a bit much for someone in their 20’s like myself or may look a bit flash lol. But the 4 series I’ve seen does come with the shadow edition alloys, leather seats, Harmon kardon audio and m sport trim and has better fuel economy and bhp than the 118d 1 series. Also are you parked at summerleaze beach in bude in your thumbnail by any chance? Cheers buddy
I think if they’re both financially similar then I would get the 420d. You get a lot more standard equipment in the 4 series especially if it’s an a M sport or M sport plus! I think they look great and much classier than the 1 series, love the way the tailgate is like a hatchback in the gran coupe. If you can I would test drive both, it’s been so long since I drove that 4 series so I can’t remember exactly. But I’m pretty sure it rides a bit better and is a little quieter in the cabin. I don’t think looking flashy for being in their 20’s is a bad thing, I loved it ;) I think with a m sport models on 4 series you also get heated seats and the big Pro nav screen as standard, front and rear parking sensors. So a lot more standard equipment compared to the 1 series, more practical, faster and looks better. I hope that makes your decision easier! I can’t remember the name of the beach but it was in Bude so you’re probably right! That’s amazing how you’ve managed to notice that :D
@@NathanMannin awesome thanks for the detailed response mate! Will take it all into consideration and hopefully try to test drive a couple cars not we’re heading out the other side of COVID! Yeh seeing the car parked in bude was so weird haha small world! Cheers
I just turned adult and got my full license, I’d like to receive suggestions in the start of year 2025 whether if I should buy a private used 2017 BMW 4 Series 430i M Sport F32 Auto with 67000km or 2017 BMW 2 Series 230i M Sport F22 Auto with 53312km for comfort and practicality with a kick of performance into it.
@@spectre5982 it depends what you want in a car I suppose? The 2 series being smaller will be slightly quicker and slightly more agile. Whilst the 4 series will be more practical, comfortable and more compliant on the road, you can’t go wrong with either, it depends what’s more of priority to you.
it hurts my brain watchin how you drive on the left side of the road (I come from a place where it's opposite), and it's funny how you do it so easily (ofc becasuse it's normal in your country to drive like that)
@@haki3353 I like interiors that stand out, got to live a little too! Black is way too mainstream. Why would I buy to think about how much I’d get from selling it? I chose it so I can enjoy it for my needs, not for everyone else’s. Besides, there’ll always be some people in the market for this interior choice.
@@NathanMannin Im not saying its for others you can have your fun-time but sometimes that fun takes an end eventually and you have to think outside the box.. when its time to sell it majority of people are looking for black interior you need a specific person to like interiors that ”sticks out” Also If you sell it to a car dealership they’re thinking the same because they cant have a car that sits there forever to have to wait for few special buyers to Come look at the car it takes time and theyre wasting money on it by just Sitting there. Im just giving some heads up no need to feel i attack you or some sort Im just explaining always think 2 times before making a drastic decision 👍🏻
@@haki3353 Ah no worries I know what you’re saying I understand where you’re coming from, I appreciate it! As with most cars I’ve owned, more so on this channel, they’ve all had crazy interiors. Such as my Volvo S80, my Cayenne Turbo, my W204 C63, I always get the interiors I like because I just want to enjoy the car for my needs. I know it’ll be harder to sell, but it’s no problem for me as I’ve been able to enjoy the car I’ve exactly wanted. After all you do spend the majority of the time in the interior, so it’s got to be a place you enjoy being in, in my opinion.
Honestly thought this was a great review. You’re quite naturally funny too which makes it more entertaining. I’m on the cusp of buying a 2019 420d MSport plus in Alpine white. No wireless charging and no X-drive. This has reassured me, cheers!
royceyraa Thank you, I appreciate the feedback and I’m glad my review helped! So if you go for the alpine white with the M sport plus package it’ll be somewhat identical to mine in this video. But from what I’ve seen, the 2019 4 series have this rear diffuser (not sure if it does anything) but aesthetically improves the rear a lot in my opinion. I’ve also seen some 2019 with the smoked taillights which I also think looks good, so maybe your 2019 4 series will have it 😁
Ninnam hey man, no worries. Yeah I just checked it now and it does have the diffuser and smoked lights which look good (I didn’t even notice in comparison to yours! 😂) I think otherwise it is pretty much the same car, mine just has the black leather. Did you find it fun to drive? Enough power etc? Thanks for the reply
royceyraa Ah sweet, I think the lights and diffuser improves the backend so much so good on you! It’s sporty to drive and the more engaging when you compare it to the Audi A5 and Mercedes C class Coupe. Then of course you’ll have RWD as well. Not only that but it’s a comfortable experience especially when you’re cruising in the comfort setting. As for performance the 420d has plenty enough shove and punch for your daily needs. The instant low down torque will be enough for most situations when you want a quick overtake. Then the economy was alright, think I’ve averaged 45mpg : )
BMW 428i, most unreliable car I have owned. Vibration problem after 6 mths, even BMW couldn't fix. Car became undriveable. Got fobbed off by the dealer and BMW customer services. Complete joke.
@@MrShaetown Could have been the universal joint. It was replaced under warranty which seemed to fix the problem. But the problem returned. I tried putting in another used univeral shaft. But didn't make a difference. Dealer then said it was the diff. Swapped the diff, didn't work. In the end got rid of the car. Too many problems.
Din Phu well i think i know what the problem was, when you change the universal joint you have to mount it the ”right” way because if you not do that, the universal joint will get destroyed quickly as the other one or they didnt put back the cardan shaft the right way, these things are balanced in a certain way and has to be put back in place as it was original
Just trying to capitalise on the heavily discounted pre-lockdown, pre-registered stock that needs shifting quickly before the new lower production volumes arrive in the showrooms. Unfortunately it’s more or less impossible to book a short-notice test drive at the dealerships at the moment so am having to buy ‘blind’. There are plenty of reviews of these on YT, but I just wanted to say yours is extremely helpful - an honest, unblinkered, real world assessment of the ownership experience.
The 420d M Sport in Sapphire Black arrives in 2 weeks - your review helped settle any lingering anxieties and now can hardly wait.
Thanks again, it was invaluable.
Cam Wat that’s one of the best comments I’ve received so thank you and I appreciate it! I’m glad my review had some sort of value and helped you out. It’s a good choice you’ve got there, so much better looking than the upcoming model too!
Never seen a vid on UA-cam we’re anyone breaks down normal cars like you did so respect thanks.
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated!
Love the video, great work man keep it up. Picking up my 420D M Sport Coupe tomorrow
KING seanzor thank you very much! I’m glad I was able to help you, excellent choice :)
Believe me in the rain and ice, the X-drive does come in handy. The RWD on a rainy day doesn’t even keep straight under acceleration, and that’s with a 20D engine.
lol get better tyres then. tyres makes a much bigger difference than drive train. a 4wd car on summer tyres will have less grip and control than a 2wd car on proper tyres for the conditions
@@hamdanali2036 already factored that in, X-Drive simply gives you grip where RWD doesn’t. You can’t argue with basic physics and engineering. RWD is more dynamic, but you trade off on stability/traction.
I picked up the new g20 320d sportline with xdrive,and i watched your video because i heard that the driving experience is About the same.Really enjoyed this pov video,beautiful road.
Thank you very much, love to hear this sort of feedback! Happy new year! I actually did a review on the G20 320d xDrive on my channel last summer. It’s literally the perfect all rounder, great choice!
Ninnam just watched your 320d video and the quality of your review got even better,im getting mine thursday.Hope i have as much fun in the sportline as you did in the M paket.I live in slovakia and the roads here arent the best,thats why i Didnt want the M suspension and also why i only got 18 inch wheels
@@petermelicher6908 Thank you! You’re going to love it honestly! My only advice don’t get run flat tyres, it makes the car worse. Get some Michelin’s on the car and you’re ready to go :)
Mate I really enjoyed the video and you were good in explaining and everything 😂👍🏻
Thank you so much!
Haha oh jeez, put your foot down and you already caught up with the golf straight away. Awesome reviews man, keep them coming!
Liam Clarke Yeah its a hot hatch killer in terms of performance, not bad for a 4 cylinder diesel hatch! Thanks, I was meant to get videos out sooner but things got in the way. I have got some more videos lined up for this channel, but with this pandemic being around I’m not really allowed to film 😉
@@NathanMannin Yeah it sucks at the moment being stuck in. Can't wait for more content to come out, you're definitely on to something. I love your real talk and style of videos, not sounding like a boring TV presenter!
Liam Clarke oh whoops, I thought this comment was about my 125d video! That was what my comment was referring to, sorry 🤣 Thank you so much really appreciate those comments, I’m still new to all of this and hoping to improve and glad you enjoyed the video! :)
@@NathanMannin Ah thats ok. Honestly that video on your 125d is fantastic, I'm going to get a new car next year and I think I'm sold on a 125d. Either that or a 435d! Stay safe :)
Liam Clarke Cheers:) interesting choice there as in terms of cars they’re two worlds apart, depending how deep your pockets are I would love the 435d. 435d has the inline 6 cylinder engine which actually sounds decent for a diesel. Mega performance with a 0 to 60 time near 4.5 seconds, 470ftlb, 313 bhp and it’s a super smooth and refined engine with effortless low down torque. M sport variants on 4 series come with pro nav, Harman kardon, heated seats, electric seats and the sliding seatbelt pushing thing. So you get a lot more kit as standard with the 4 as apposed to the 125d. Obviously running costs will be more with the 4 though. Both are great cars, but in terms of value the 435d’s are as low as £13k on autotrader which is an absolute steal in my opinion. Depends how much mileage you’re looking at when buying one:)
done really well pal..... keep it up.....
Thank you! : )
Can I ask you please? How did you film this? Camera in mouth?
Noo Hall 😂 it’s a POV video so I have a head strap that holds my go pro onto my forehead, pretty sweet eh? 😉
lmfaooooo!
how are the 19inch wheels to drive? do they feel rough? Im thinking of going from 18 inch to 19 but worried it will ruin drive comfort especially on the rough roads around me.
If you can then I would definitely try driving both with 18’s and 19’s. From memory it wasn’t a bad ride and my roads aren’t perfect either, the 19’s also look so much better and well suited to the 4 series. Also, what tyres are you using? They can help with ride comfort a lot as well!
@@NathanMannin thanks for this. yes the 19 inch look amazing especially on those 704M wheels.
Loved the video! stuck between the 420d and 220d! I drive to MK on a daily through the a5, not sure whether to get xdrive
Thank you! I would say the 420d is definitely the better comfort cruiser and I would say looks better internally and externally. Better practicality, comfort, looks, Harmon/kardon sounds better than the lower models like the 1/2 series. Let’s not forget about the sliding seatbelt which is brilliant! I had xdrive which was amazing for the snow and helps in the wet, but better tyres can also help in the wet. Depending on your driving style could decide whether xdrive is a necessity for you or not. If you’re on the A5 a lot driving to Milton Keynes then I wouldn’t be too fussed about not having it. You can get it sideways on each of those million roundabouts they have going through MK 😉
@@NathanMannin Haha thanks for the reply mate! You've definitely helped me decide to get the 4 series! My dream car 😍 Subbed to your channel ✌️
@@Samuel18r Fantastic, thank you very much! I’m really glad I could help, I suppose the 2 series being shorter wheel base and being lighter would make it more nimble and fun to drive. But I suppose it’s what floats your boat I guess! There’s more positives to the 4 than there is with the 2 in my opinion : )
Try the 435d.... will blow your socks off! Need the xdrive then to put all the power down!
Cheers let me see 420d using a bit of power which is what I was worried about but seems good, as I'm buying one blind in lockdown tomorrow, thanks for your vid 👍
Glad I could help! Enjoy the car : )
Did you buy it after?
Due to budget I’m deliberating between getting either 4 series 420d gran coupe or 1 series 118d shadow edition. What would you recommend after driving two similar cars yourself? I’m looking to save some money through fuel costs as currently have a 1.6 petrol focus which is also £210 to tax per year where I see the 4 series is only £30. Just worried having a longer saloon style bmw may be a bit much for someone in their 20’s like myself or may look a bit flash lol. But the 4 series I’ve seen does come with the shadow edition alloys, leather seats, Harmon kardon audio and m sport trim and has better fuel economy and bhp than the 118d 1 series. Also are you parked at summerleaze beach in bude in your thumbnail by any chance? Cheers buddy
I think if they’re both financially similar then I would get the 420d. You get a lot more standard equipment in the 4 series especially if it’s an a M sport or M sport plus! I think they look great and much classier than the 1 series, love the way the tailgate is like a hatchback in the gran coupe. If you can I would test drive both, it’s been so long since I drove that 4 series so I can’t remember exactly. But I’m pretty sure it rides a bit better and is a little quieter in the cabin. I don’t think looking flashy for being in their 20’s is a bad thing, I loved it ;) I think with a m sport models on 4 series you also get heated seats and the big Pro nav screen as standard, front and rear parking sensors. So a lot more standard equipment compared to the 1 series, more practical, faster and looks better. I hope that makes your decision easier! I can’t remember the name of the beach but it was in Bude so you’re probably right! That’s amazing how you’ve managed to notice that :D
@@NathanMannin awesome thanks for the detailed response mate! Will take it all into consideration and hopefully try to test drive a couple cars not we’re heading out the other side of COVID! Yeh seeing the car parked in bude was so weird haha small world! Cheers
@@1056944 awesome! Please do comment which one you choose in the end and what spec you get :)
I just turned adult and got my full license, I’d like to receive suggestions in the start of year 2025 whether if I should buy a private used 2017 BMW 4 Series 430i M Sport F32 Auto with 67000km or 2017 BMW 2 Series 230i M Sport F22 Auto with 53312km for comfort and practicality with a kick of performance into it.
@@spectre5982 it depends what you want in a car I suppose? The 2 series being smaller will be slightly quicker and slightly more agile. Whilst the 4 series will be more practical, comfortable and more compliant on the road, you can’t go wrong with either, it depends what’s more of priority to you.
it hurts my brain watchin how you drive on the left side of the road (I come from a place where it's opposite), and it's funny how you do it so easily (ofc becasuse it's normal in your country to drive like that)
I understand, I’m the same when I had to drive on the right side in Sweden and Canada 😆
What size alloys have you got because I’ve just ordered a 420 i msport coupe and got the 18 inch
Ben Laycock they are 19 inch alloys, is yours M Sport plus?
No I didn’t get the sport plus just the bmw 420i coupe m sport auto 8 speed
Ben Laycock that’s maybe why you didn’t get 19 inch alloys then
Ninnam probably
Did you have this on finance? Pcp?
No I didn’t : )
Good video man. Just the one I am looking at getting next 😎 currently have 320d 🖤
420 d or 420i?
Definitely 420d!
I am loving mine in Alpine White!!❤
Nice video mate!
Can I ask how much it was and was it a 1 year lease deal?
Adnaan Javaid This was through work so it wasn’t a lease : (
Aw ok, I was wondering how you got it for such a short time
Where about do you work?
No HUD?
Nope!
Why red interior though?
Looks amazing, black makes the interior too dark and had it in so many other cars.
@@NathanMannin red is sticking out like a sore thumb Also its harder to sell the car too
@@haki3353 I like interiors that stand out, got to live a little too! Black is way too mainstream. Why would I buy to think about how much I’d get from selling it? I chose it so I can enjoy it for my needs, not for everyone else’s. Besides, there’ll always be some people in the market for this interior choice.
@@NathanMannin Im not saying its for others you can have your fun-time but sometimes that fun takes an end eventually and you have to think outside the box.. when its time to sell it majority of people are looking for black interior you need a specific person to like interiors that ”sticks out” Also If you sell it to a car dealership they’re thinking the same because they cant have a car that sits there forever to have to wait for few special buyers to Come look at the car it takes time and theyre wasting money on it by just Sitting there. Im just giving some heads up no need to feel i attack you or some sort Im just explaining always think 2 times before making a drastic decision 👍🏻
@@haki3353 Ah no worries I know what you’re saying I understand where you’re coming from, I appreciate it! As with most cars I’ve owned, more so on this channel, they’ve all had crazy interiors. Such as my Volvo S80, my Cayenne Turbo, my W204 C63, I always get the interiors I like because I just want to enjoy the car for my needs. I know it’ll be harder to sell, but it’s no problem for me as I’ve been able to enjoy the car I’ve exactly wanted. After all you do spend the majority of the time in the interior, so it’s got to be a place you enjoy being in, in my opinion.
Honestly thought this was a great review. You’re quite naturally funny too which makes it more entertaining. I’m on the cusp of buying a 2019 420d MSport plus in Alpine white. No wireless charging and no X-drive. This has reassured me, cheers!
royceyraa Thank you, I appreciate the feedback and I’m glad my review helped! So if you go for the alpine white with the M sport plus package it’ll be somewhat identical to mine in this video. But from what I’ve seen, the 2019 4 series have this rear diffuser (not sure if it does anything) but aesthetically improves the rear a lot in my opinion. I’ve also seen some 2019 with the smoked taillights which I also think looks good, so maybe your 2019 4 series will have it 😁
Ninnam hey man, no worries. Yeah I just checked it now and it does have the diffuser and smoked lights which look good (I didn’t even notice in comparison to yours! 😂) I think otherwise it is pretty much the same car, mine just has the black leather. Did you find it fun to drive? Enough power etc? Thanks for the reply
royceyraa Ah sweet, I think the lights and diffuser improves the backend so much so good on you!
It’s sporty to drive and the more engaging when you compare it to the Audi A5 and Mercedes C class Coupe. Then of course you’ll have RWD as well. Not only that but it’s a comfortable experience especially when you’re cruising in the comfort setting. As for performance the 420d has plenty enough shove and punch for your daily needs. The instant low down torque will be enough for most situations when you want a quick overtake. Then the economy was alright, think I’ve averaged 45mpg : )
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Glad to know the boot fits a watermelon
It’s great consumer advice! ;)
BMW 428i, most unreliable car I have owned. Vibration problem after 6 mths, even BMW couldn't fix. Car became undriveable. Got fobbed off by the dealer and BMW customer services. Complete joke.
Din Phu you had new tyres put on it recently?
@@matt4239 Wasn't the tyres. Was the same on the old tyres and brand new wheels and tyres. Seemed to coming from the drivetrain.
Din Phu i assume it was the universal joint and maybe the center mount with the bearing, im having this ”problem” also
@@MrShaetown Could have been the universal joint. It was replaced under warranty which seemed to fix the problem. But the problem returned. I tried putting in another used univeral shaft. But didn't make a difference. Dealer then said it was the diff. Swapped the diff, didn't work. In the end got rid of the car. Too many problems.
Din Phu well i think i know what the problem was, when you change the universal joint you have to mount it the ”right” way because if you not do that, the universal joint will get destroyed quickly as the other one or they didnt put back the cardan shaft the right way, these things are balanced in a certain way and has to be put back in place as it was original