Listen to Varian's scream when he is dying. Most of the time either the voice actor or the director of the voice actor has a death scream come out like a macho, ultra-deep scream. That way the character will be seen as 'tough' or some such. Varian starts there, almost as if he 's trying to put out a brave front but he is still only a human and his scream turns to one of pure pain. I know its not a MAJOR thing, but I think that slight detail really drives home the emotional impact of this scene. Varian was a human being like all of us and I think that slight aspect to this moment really brings this out. This is, honestly, the best cinematic I have seen so far. Great job, Blizzard!
Wow, you aren't kidding! He's also the voice of Thrall, wrote several of the WarCraft books among numerous others, and was instrumental in the development of all of Blizzard's three headliner series. I think I just found my new role model. XD
Dauntless3788 He is their senior story teller after all. He was story director of all Blizzard franchise since warcraft 3 up until he retired. After that each department begin to have their own story director instead of having like one guy writing all 3 story which I assumed have drained him and led to his retirement. He even wrote stort for overwatch until Michael chu take over.
2:03 I like the fact, that Greymane INSTANTLY understands Varian, when he takes the letter. Somelike he knew at any time this moment will come, when Varian will pass everything over to Anduin. Great Cinematic. I come back from time to time, just to enjoy it :)
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) because the alliance has been written poorly for the last 4 xpacks. they've been willing to bend over backwards for the horde and the horde keeps antagonizing them over and over and they're expected to take it. in seige of orgrimmar they help the horde take their own city back with no terms, sylvanas makes more forsaken out of alliance soldiers there, and nothing is done. the alliance should've occupied orgrimmar for the following patch and they didn't. the alliance is supposed to be written as a great superpower (Chris metzen calls them the captain america civilization) and they keep bending over backwards for a bunch of fucking chimps. the alliance has an armada of like 300 ships, several gunships, and a tightly knit group of historical allies. the horde has 3 races that sort of like each other, zombies that nobody really likes, a group of elves that consider leaving them every expansion, and goblins whose services could be turned by a large sum of gold. Now you tell me how that group of misfits actually defeats the former alliance of lordaeron, a 10,000 year old civilization, a 100,000 year old civilization that just happens to be refugees at the moment, and tame werewolves that are still technically human. why would the alliance ever want to fight for "azeroth" if the other guys keep fucking them over. sylvanas didn't tell the alliance to retreat as well, they just did it without telling them. they've used chemical weapons against entire cities and armies, raised their fallen dead, and they do nothing. fuck azeroth and fuck the horde.
Varian killed a big ass infernal and died vs felguards 1v5 and everyone lose their minds, but broxigar survived almost the WHOLE FCKING burning legion on Argus alone and died wounding Sargeras himselft and nobody gives a fck because "alliance wannabe fanboys" know only the in-game lore :D
thrall and varian always showed the best of each faction, as a 100% horde player since early TBC i only have to say, my respect to varian, great character and great leader
@@EdgeyStyle Thrall is basically going into the great denile and depression stages after losing all he tried to accomplish. He practically brought garrosh up to who he was, and was a mentor/father figure to him. After seeing all those wars and battles and the after math of everything, especially with the betraayal of garrosh becoming a psychotic power hungry old god infused chaos, and then killing garrosh, thrall felt like he was failing everyone. Like obi wan kenobi, he basically went into hermit in a cave on a distant land mode. It is a nice little throwback, but that is basically what thrall was doing for a while, and i think he still is. He feels like he has failed everyone, especially garrosh.
@@Spydabreej Because he was ruined by Blizzard.. Thrall in wc3, vanilla, TBC and WOTLK was an amazing leader. Benevolent and honorable, yet brutal and decisive against the enemies of the Horde.
@@Danneman92 What lead Thrall to break free from being, just a 'thrall' was his connection to the elements, it made him into an Orc. While I agree that Blizzard destroyed him, they made a compelling storyline as to why he chose his responsibility as a shaman to the world, over the Horde. He did think Garrosh would be alright since he had Cairne and Vol'jin's counsel. We knew how it turned out, but it also kinda justified why Garrosh turned to how he eventually became. He cut off dissent, and surrounded himself with like minded blokes, of course, he'd turn out broken.
Something very noteworthy during Varian's death: If you noticed Gul'dan's expression, he seemed somewhat frustrated as he was killing him. That's because he was not able to break Varian's spirit. Varian retained his honor in his final moments.
No, it REALLY doesn't. Fact is, Genn's in-game model manages to have even MORE problems than REGULAR player Worgen models, from a technical standpoint. Some of the teeth on his lower jaw stretch as his mouth opens, the tips remaining where they are while the rest of the tooth moves away, and his beard clips through his lower jaw when he opens his mouth. Cinematic Genn: Beautiful. In-game Genn: Not an improvement in the slightest.
As a Horde player, I've always respected Varian Wrynn. He truly was a noble and honorable warrior. Seeing him die like that was horrible for me. This cutscene definitely invoked some emotion.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
Varian is the Spirit of the Warrior class in WoW not Garrosh or Grom. Uncorrupted by magic, brutal to foes, benevolent to and protective of allies.. Defeated but Never Broken, Sacrifice for others. For the warriors of Alliance and For the warriors of Horde!
Kinda. Remeber, the horde had Broxigar. He sacrifice himself for Azaroth, was a friend of Malfurion and Tyrande, blessd by Cenarius, batteld solo the Legion and even Sageras. He saved the world, and if he would have still lived, he would have stayed there and hold the line but this time not alone but with Varian( who he would call Lo'Gosh most likely). They are the best of the warrior on both sides.
oh shit this comment come from person never play WC2 or WC3 Grommash slay Cenaruis demi God and Mannaroth one of the greatest Legion Demons you can go see Grom WC3 cinematic i know this is 1year old commant but i cant see my Grom disrespected and do nothnig :p
@@Raziel-zm3dv But only after he taisted demonblood a second time. And Mannaroth was killd by him and Thrall. Alternative Grom got the mommend of suprise against Mannaroth. Was is powerfull, but was alsow hotheaded, easy to manipiulate and savage.
Mannaroth is Stronger then Gul'dan ( the one who killed Varian ) and even non corrupted AU Grom killed him with surprise or not true Grommash not very smart but he good with wars tactics and strategies he very smart in fights and allways look for the enemies week points after all i want to say Grom is one of the strongest Warriors Azaroth have ever seen with Orgrim and Anduin Lothar ( the Forgotten hero of the Alliance ) and for sure Varian
Surfing a gigantic spaceship into the throat of an even more gigantic space monster was and still is the best and most epic way to go. This one was nice too though.
few years later and my favorite touch is still that Varian's eyes soften when he looks up at the ridge and sees the Legion's reinforcements from where the Horde was stationed. he at least didn't have to think that the Horde had betrayed him yet again right before he died-that expression change says it all: he saw the demons and knew they were set up, not that the Horde was double crossing him. I looooove this cinematic!!
you can loock all that answear in the audios blizzard putted on the oficial wow chanel on YT they tell the story of guldan on azzertoh and the sageras tomb
But by making this comment you're clearly not Horde. It kills me, every time someone says something like this. "Wah! I'm sad Varian died and I'm Horde! Wah!" If you're sad that he's dead then you're not Horde. You just play Horde characters. Because you're stupid.
@@Vgpl0 Not really. I play Alliance and I am Alliance with all my heart. But I can respect certain Horde characters and even feel bad for them. I respect Saurfang, Thrall to some extend and Lor'Themar has in interesting spot for me.
Its not a Horde thing, its an Orc thing. From all the people participant there (if we don't count Thrall ), Varian fighting in the arenas with orc's , having an orc for a mentor there and receiving the name Lo'Gosh - his mentality is closest to ,, Victory or death"' .
It's an orc thing, not a Horde one. As for Varian this had nothing to do with ''Victory or Death'', it was a calculated move with the intent of saving his army. Had he had any other option you can bet he wouldn't be stupid enough to not take it.
Farewell, Varian. You were not perfect, but you grew to become a true King. My king. You and your son learned a lot from each other, may he lead with honor as you did. I hope you find peace where you are now, with your dear wife, I'm sure she's really proud of what you've become. You will never be forgotten, Lo'gosh. For Azeroth.
My entire life playing WoW I've always been 100% for the Horde (and still am when it comes to alliance vs horde) but god damn Legion made me also love the Alliance.
Varians death scream still ranks as the best I've ever heard in any medium, be it movies, shows or games. The VA is really emptying his full lungs and letting his voice crack and go high. It's absolutely amazing.
"live to fight another day" That's the main theme of this and the Horde side. The alliance lacked the oversight of the battle, yet the Horde made the call for retreat cause they knew they were outmatched.
People who see this, please don't watch it with feelings but with the eyes of warfare. The tactical retreat the Horde made was a clear message even for the alliance, yet they stayed because they lacked the overview of the battlefield and thought that they were winning. Therefor varian sacrificed himself so that others may live to fight another day.
There is one difference. Varian died with his dignity and his sacrifice having meaning. Gul'dan died broken and having accomplished nothing. One's a hero. The other is a footnote.
I love how if you don't see both cinematics you don't realize why the archers pulled back. It's very realistic to see the events from both sides. It makes the conflict between hoard and alliance very realistic
@@richardshiflett5181so by your logic, the alliance are cowards to? They also ran. If the horde stayed they would have ALL died. Not just Varian and Voljin.
No he went there to stop Guldan from corrupting the horde and obtain the Horde for himself and make them into the Iron Horde, he gave them advanced technology that OU Horde didn't have when they came to invade. He went there specifically to stop Guldan and be made Warchief.
When he sacrifices himself it reminds me of the scene betweem him and his son at Siege of Orgrimmar. Anduin: Father, what are you doing?! Varian: What a king must do
I love the look on Gul'dan's face after Varian says "For the Alliance". Gul'dan was furious that he wasn't able to break Varian's spirit. In the end Varian still stood by his principles and who he was.
Almost four years later and I still absolutely love this cinematic. Varian's screams as he's being destroyed by fel energy, Genn yelling at the end, Shalamayne being left in the dirt with the light going out. Always been a Horde player but damn this was and is so epic.
Thank you my king for showing me why Aliance is so bloody awesome... first char in vanilla was an aliance warrior and you just reminded me how awesome we are... this is the 2nd time I cried. Last time was when Arthas died :( . Being Aliance makes me even more proud. PS: The way they killed Tirion is just pathetic... He is one of the greatest paladins and they made him die in such a stupid way...
I know he dies... but that happens during the Retribution Paladin questline. And personally, I don't mind that we all get the Ashbringer, not at all. For a start, it wasn't a Legendary Weapon like Shadowmourne or Thunderfury, but an NPC weapon; and secondly, you can always opt out and get sword and shield or the hammer instead :) I have a fair few palas and I'll have one of them get the Ashbringer, another will be full on tank and I'll have a Holy Pala. :)
TenDisks It is ok to be able to have it ... but it should be a rare drop hard to obtain... now every random casual player can have it... back in the day you had to prove your worth for such great weapons :) corrupted Ashrbinger was a privilege
Scourgeborne well I don't really wanna get into all this too deeply - every casual player is going the leader of his order hall and all that - personally. as I said, I don't mind it. Each to their own, I guess :)
Varian stood true to his words! "What a King must do!" He knew,when he saw the fel reaver, that its either his sacrifice or his people dead, and he made his choice.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
Weeaboos Hunter Vol’jin fulfilled his duty to his people by surviving a battle neither faction could win long enough to name a worthy successor to look after them once he was gone. Varian chose to ignore the signal to retreat and paid the ultimate pride for his foolish pride. Worse yet, he left his people in the hands of two self-serving, corrupt warmongers who are using his own son as a puppet. If anyone went out like a bitch and left a legacy stained with failure, it’s definitely Varian.
@@weeabooshunter4759 Yeah, Vol'jin for sure after being mortally wounded and giving orders to save the rest as his death was going the make the Horde leaderless, said ''Oh, and please take me to the safety'' He fell uncouncious and Silvanas just dragged him along . On a hopeless battle he was just the unlucky leader that fell first.
My father taught me many things; strength, devotion, courage, but the most important thing he taught me was sacrifice. Without his sacrifice, the Alliance wouldn't have survived and our world wouldn't have been saved. His actions will echo throughout the ages and his roar will strike fear into our greatest adversaries.
The only gnome I like. Mekkatorque is awesome! And this also shows why there are no gnomes in any other cinematic, because if there were, the game would consist of nothing but gnomes.
Lmao, wow really bro? They had to leave because they were being overrun. Varian did the same thing to defend his people except Varian would sacrifice himself whereas the Horde would retreat to fight another day. There's no cowardice in that my friend. Mind You, nothing was stopping Varian from getting on that ship with Genn, he thought it best to sacrifice himself their just in case Gul'dan launched another meteor blast. Then again, who knew if he could even fire off another one of those things and hit his mark seeing as he completely missed the first time.
+Alcaedus yes varian could've fled, so everyone would've died. the robot caught the ship, they wouldn't be able to go anywhere unless someone destroys that thing.
That's true, considering if Varian's sword was enough to destroy it, then theoretically one of Mekkatorque's Blast would've been able to do the trick as well no? Come on man, this is all written this way for plot, but we know that more could've been done man. It's just amazing how ppl know why the Horde had to leave, but still gets mad and calls them cowards. PPl eat this stuff up haha
+Alcaedus "Its been written this way" this is what people need to understand yeah. we know that logically it could've happen in a totally different, a better way, but thats the plot we were given, there is nothing to argue about.
Lol I wasn't arguing bro. I simply stated why I felt this dude was wrong to say the Horde were cowards. You didnt see me insult anyone did you? There's no argument, just a vivid defense for the horde since they weren't showing cowardice at all. If Vol'jin and Thrall weren't hurt, they would've stayed and fight, plain and simple.
Vol'jins Befehl - "Lasst die Horde nicht sterben". Siehe Zwischensequenz auf Hordenseite. His question: "Why did Sylvanas leave???" "Vol'jin's command: 'Do not let de Horde die.' - as seen in the Horde cinematic."
That's the saying of the Orcs, not the Horde as a whole. That is why I still prefer the Horde from Wc3 (tauren trolls orcs) which were 10x badass as this Horde is
As if the entire horde sacrifices itself only that the Alliance can carry their victory away and most likely take over Azeroth after that. There is a difference between bravery and stupidity.
one other note, why does the horde see 90% of this, but the alliance is told almost nothing of why the horde fell back? if you havent seen it already, i highly advise it.
Wrathgate 2.0 probably. Also Mekkatorque is the exact opposite of the gnome stereotype. Damn shame his people are seena s comic reliefs when in fact they're the most advanced race in terms of technology in the World (SoO displays that very well). I wish more gnomes would be able (lorewise) to take down 3 troggs at once like Mekkatorque once did....
By far THE best cinematic for a new wow addon! The broken shore was so freaking god damn good and top of that this was just a PREPATCH! They did this all just for generating a hype for the next addon, they never did this effort before or after legion. And the cinematic nailed it so hard, everywhere is danger and regardless what we do the legion was stronger at this point and really felt like a serious danger to us and azeroth. peak writing
Seeing this from the Alliance perspective after going through it as Horde really makes it seem as if "we" abandoned the Alliance in that battle, but from the perspective of the Alliance they didn`t see the endless tide of demons flanking the Horde forces. If the Horde had stayed it would have changed nothing except adding more corpses on the ground. I tip my hat off to Varian though, he went out like a true hero.
@thin vo & mrantidk If the horde wouldn't retreat, the expansion would be over soon after that battle. And you wouldn't even get to play it. Because the legion would face no real resistance if all azeroth forces were dead. It was a foolish attempt to rush down to tomb of sargeras without any knowlage of enemy power at the first place. You are a clueless fool if you think otherwise.
Oh yes. Let us all die at the Broken Shore so that the Legion can overrun everything else because all leaders are dead! That seems like a logical decision.
The fact that Gul'dan was the one who willed Garona to kill King Llane all those years ago makes Varian's last stand that much more powerful. Face to face with his most hated enemy. He gave his all and failed. Just like his father did, but there's still a certain peace about it, killed by the same person who killed his father. Llane was a good king, but no warrior. Varian was a good king and a warrior, but the fact that they couldnt defeat the same enemy brings about a sense of comfort I think. Varian achieved so much in his life, much more than his father did, so when he didn't do more than Llane in this situation, I can imagine Varian feeling like a child again, comforted by a parent. Back when he wasn't stronger than him at anything, it could've brought him a sense of nostalgia and again, comfort, had Varian felt this during his last moments. And the fact that Varian was so devastated after Stormwind's Fall once he made it to Lordaeron, he still peaked over the balcony in the Capital City's throne room to witness the formation of the Alliance of Lordaeron. Years later, he fights beside two of its original members - Genn Greymane and Gelbin Mekkatorque, against a shade of the same enemy, Gul'dan. Of course Varian's last words were "For the Alliance"... brilliant, just so fucking brilliant.
For those saying Varian's death hurt. No. Do not mourn him. Celebrate him and celebrate that any character in lore could be given this amazing of a sendoff. His was one of the best deaths in all of Warcraft's history. He went out in an actual blaze of glory the likes of which you'd have to bring up MU Grom, Broxigar or Anduin Lothar to equal. Fearless in the face of certain death, taking as many of his enemies with him as he possibly could. Defiant to the last. Compare how Varian went out to Saurfang just one expansion later if you want the hurt to come back. Also.. the short exchange between Genn and Varian before Varian takes his leap into history and legends. That small knowing nod and look as Genn realized exactly what he intended to do and said nothing to try and dissuade him, knowing it was painfully, horribly necessary... that might be one of the manliest moments I've ever seen in a video game. It's actually perfect.
Exactly. although it still hurts to this day THIS is how you kill a beloved character. You send them off at their highest. Not only with cool action scenes but with their personalities and values coming out in full form. This cinematic alone cements what Varian Wrynn has been up until that point.
Rest in Peace, King Varian Wrynn, the most badass king Azeroth has ever known... *Takes my draenic warhammer in hand* Death to the cowards of the Forsaken! This is the last time they betrayed us! We demand justice!
Has no one noticed what Varian did? The 2nd time Varian looks where the Horde was, he saw the Legion was exactly where the Horde was. He knew they didn't retreat to "betray" the Alliance. They retreated because if they stayed, nothing would have been gained from this outcome, and the Horde would of lost several critically important members of the Horde.
@@adskuydrochula Not really. They are allies, with a leader that saw no hope in battle and ordered the retreat, deserters defy orders of battle and the alliance doesn't decide their actions, still as allies there wasn't time to ask the alliance for a retreat as they were separated. Both sides were battling with courage yet still losing. The bad luck for the horde was that their leader was injured first (For the alliance it was bound to happen at some point) so he, fully knowing what his death would bring, decided to give a ''last order''. As much as the conflict between Horde and Alliance exist, both sides can agree that this was a hopeless fight, at some point one side will retreat first. The alliance was just the lucky one that didn't suffer first and was allowed to be the ones that ''fought even when the other side retired''
Steve Urkel Yes. Its because I suck. Its not like I have an Alt on horde with the same class , specc etc.. but smh I win with my horde character but lose with my Alliance.
Alternate Ending... King Varian: “GET WINDRUNNER’S ARCHERS TO CLEAR THE SKY...” *Horde messenger arrives.* Messenger: “Lord Varian. Our WarChief Vol'jin is in critical condition and we need to regroup. Lady Sylvanas is aware that the Alliance will be out gunned without the Horde and is willing to give you enough cover fire to successfully fallback.” King Varian: (Processes this for a moment.) “Very well. In return, I will send some of our best healers to tend for your WarChief.” *Both sides begin retreat in unison. Less casualties in the retreat. King Varian and Vol'jin survive. Jaina Proudmoore stops being a paranoid bitch. And everyone is chill.*
Its a point I been bringing up for two years now. The Horde left the Alliance for dead on the Broken Shore, leaving Varian no choice but to sacrifice himself to save everyone else. Instead of retreating together as a unified force, the cowards simply booked it and left them there. Hadn't they deduced the cowards left them for dead with the sound of the horn, all of them would have been wiped out. Its why Genn and Jaina have a right to be angry at the Horde's cowardice.
@@Ghoffman91 Good to know that after two years, the fact that Horde was fighting on two fronts while Alliance held one still didn't sink in. How dare they, cowards, should've lasted even longer in this slaughter for glorious Alliance to acknowledge and organize a retreat... by a gunship no less. And THEN they can go back to their normal ships on foot with the Legion breathing down their backs, once the Alliance finally got its shit together.
Because the Horde couldn't even clear trash mobs? Gets "ambushed" according to all the horde players, on the high ground? Loses their gunship, again? She pussied out because the Horde is a faction of failures.
yeah it is, yet you see alliance players complaining about how the horde is favored at everything yet a fucking thrash mob killed vol'jin and they made varyan look like a real hero
Maybe you should watch both, the Legion planed that battle, those demons that 'died' will be back as they didn't die in the twisted nether. The Legion drew out the leaders of both factions to deal huge blows to both sides. I'm calling it, Varian is going to come back. Sylvanas was getting over run herself, broken shore was a lost cause the moment they attacked.
That is the beauty of it, the 'Perspective'. That said your 'Warchief' and his forces routed, ours fought on till our King decided to order them off. That is Honor, Discipline and Loyalty, to the bitter end. That is Alliance!
2:10 That split second of emotion shown, that he would miss his friend Gedd, that he would never see his son or his empire again. Only for a split second, then another split second of resignation " This is what I must Do", followed by the destruction of both previous emotions with the fire of bravery and martyrdom. I cried at this moment. As should you.
After studying the alliance and the horde cinematics I came to this conclusion: The horde faced dreadguards, doomguards, 1 dread infernal and a portal. Their leader died because he did not pay attention and they where not to able to hold ground. The alliance faced felguards, doomguards 1 dread infernal, 1 pit lord, Lord Jaraxxus (the red giant one) and the main portal. they where able to hold the ground so far, but decided to retreat after the horde bailed. Their leader died to let the rest escape and killed 1 fel reaver and several dreadguards before he was killed. Just let this sink in, and you should find out what faction is the superior one.
The Horde was facing 4x as many demons and was being bombarded by at least 3 Legion spaceships. It’s pretty clear they had the tougher fight from the get-go.
I know this is way later, but when Varian closed his eyes @1:57 he new he had to scarify himself to save Genn and the Alliance's ship. That literally brought me to tears during the Cinematic, and still now. Great work as always!
I'm crying, Lo'gosh will always be my favorite character.... Our leader died a hero's death, while the Horde pussies were running away. He's a true king, just like Llane and Lothar.
You guys are all dumb both the horde and the alliance suffered greatly, and both warchiefs made a decision better for their own faction, voljin was gonna die and he knew that if he died right there the horde would have been weak and died among him, thats why he retreated, varian made the decision of saving his troops by sacraficing himself to save others, Both are heroes of azeroth
Actually, no they didn't. I've played both scenarios. The Horde actually fight much more demons in the final stage and in larger groups. Both factions are dealing with a lot, but the ones fighting the Alliance come in smaller waves whereas the demons up on the ridge fighting the Horde come in ridiculously big groups to the point they're overrun because they can't get near the portal constantly spewing them out. The Horde have no choice but to retreat, Vol'jin gets stabbed, Thrall is down on the ground and Baine is beginning to get surrounded. All these arguments between the factions players, especially the "horde are pussies" one, is ridiculous because if the positions were switched the Alliance would have retreated too because they would have known the battle was lost and there was no point in staying just to die. If the Horde stayed they all would have died and then the Alliance would have died soon after. It would make no sense for either faction to stay and lose several of their leaders and most powerful heroes in the very first battle. The Legion had the far superior force because both factions only took a small force because they didn't realise that the Legion had an army, they thought it was just a vanguard.
Gul'dan's villainy is so frustrating, and Varian's courage and tenacity is really inspiring. Cinematics have always been a strong point of Blizzard and they really lived up to the occasion here. Still love watching these (even in the year 2022) even though I no longer play.
That was a dick move from Sylvanas, eh? ( I watched the Horde Cinematic, i'm horde too, but was a "How to be a pussy" tutorial ) JK, she saved everyone
The Horde was outnumbered by the legion one to infinite, Sylvanas had no such choice either fight and die or save the rest of the horde from being massacred. In a battle where you losing and outnumbered, it is always the wise choice to retreat and fight another day. There is no such thing as cowardice in a battle like this.
Aodaic There, was it so hard, guys? This man just rocked the cinematics. Comment-bait like mine are not to be trusted ( Yes, i was trolling you guys, but for a good purpose ) Lesson learned, good day *Bows and leaves*
Even after 5 Year my tears running down my face for Varian. It is the emotionally cinematic what blizzard has done. I grow with Varian so I had a deep connection to him.
5 years later, and this cinematic still brings me to tears. Every single time.
Remembering the good times when WoW made us feel emotions beside anger and frustration
I wish they had done my man Tirion the same justice, not even a small cinematic, just a scream and being thrown into a fel pit.
Same. Legion had some of the best cinematics and saw a major shift in power on both sides. So much loss. Voljin was a hard hit.
Same haha
Yeah, every time...
Let appreciate that a gnome finally made it into the cinematic.
HAHAHA
only good thing in that cinematic. i'm so sad that Varian died.
lmao
Mekkatorque was completely bad ass in this cinematic.
Gnomes were in Wrathgate, the first in game cinematic
Listen to Varian's scream when he is dying. Most of the time either the voice actor or the director of the voice actor has a death scream come out like a macho, ultra-deep scream. That way the character will be seen as 'tough' or some such. Varian starts there, almost as if he 's trying to put out a brave front but he is still only a human and his scream turns to one of pure pain. I know its not a MAJOR thing, but I think that slight detail really drives home the emotional impact of this scene. Varian was a human being like all of us and I think that slight aspect to this moment really brings this out. This is, honestly, the best cinematic I have seen so far. Great job, Blizzard!
Dauntless3788 He voice by christ Metzen. The guy is so talented.
Wow, you aren't kidding! He's also the voice of Thrall, wrote several of the WarCraft books among numerous others, and was instrumental in the development of all of Blizzard's three headliner series. I think I just found my new role model. XD
Dauntless3788 He is their senior story teller after all. He was story director of all Blizzard franchise since warcraft 3 up until he retired. After that each department begin to have their own story director instead of having like one guy writing all 3 story which I assumed have drained him and led to his retirement. He even wrote stort for overwatch until Michael chu take over.
I know. It is a beautiful, glorious and magnificent sound. To this day I can’t help but smile as I watch and listen.
@@thinhvo3893 Not anymore dude
2:03 I like the fact, that Greymane INSTANTLY understands Varian, when he takes the letter. Somelike he knew at any time this moment will come, when Varian will pass everything over to Anduin. Great Cinematic. I come back from time to time, just to enjoy it :)
Greymane was definitely thinking of his own son in that moment
The fact that he said 'for the alliance' and not for Azeroth makes it so much better.
He fought for Azeroth but he died for the Alliance. It makes it so much better.
ChEILoZ why did so many alliance players hate it when he said for Azeroth in the cinematic?
Kargath Bladefist (WoD) because the alliance has been written poorly for the last 4 xpacks. they've been willing to bend over backwards for the horde and the horde keeps antagonizing them over and over and they're expected to take it. in seige of orgrimmar they help the horde take their own city back with no terms, sylvanas makes more forsaken out of alliance soldiers there, and nothing is done. the alliance should've occupied orgrimmar for the following patch and they didn't. the alliance is supposed to be written as a great superpower (Chris metzen calls them the captain america civilization) and they keep bending over backwards for a bunch of fucking chimps. the alliance has an armada of like 300 ships, several gunships, and a tightly knit group of historical allies. the horde has 3 races that sort of like each other, zombies that nobody really likes, a group of elves that consider leaving them every expansion, and goblins whose services could be turned by a large sum of gold. Now you tell me how that group of misfits actually defeats the former alliance of lordaeron, a 10,000 year old civilization, a 100,000 year old civilization that just happens to be refugees at the moment, and tame werewolves that are still technically human. why would the alliance ever want to fight for "azeroth" if the other guys keep fucking them over. sylvanas didn't tell the alliance to retreat as well, they just did it without telling them. they've used chemical weapons against entire cities and armies, raised their fallen dead, and they do nothing. fuck azeroth and fuck the horde.
bookplate someone sounds.....pissy.
FUCK THE HORDE
"You will be remembered as a king who sacrificed himself for nothing"
"For the alliance"
Bad ass way to die, mean while vol'jin dies In a chair
It would be better if he died on toilet chair :D
yeah bad ass, i was waiting on Varian to shout FOR AZEROTH just before he blow ups, like a last FUCK YOU Gul`dan,,,Azeroth is coming for you
lol!
I don't up-vote comments on UA-cam very often, but I did here.
Voljin isn't dead.
Varian killed a big ass infernal and died vs felguards 1v5 and everyone lose their minds, but broxigar survived almost the WHOLE FCKING burning legion on Argus alone and died wounding Sargeras himselft and nobody gives a fck because "alliance wannabe fanboys" know only the in-game lore :D
A gladiator, a king... A hero of Azeroth.
meanwhile Vol'jiin was just a stoner hippy to the end
Lvl58DeathKnight nah but not as good as Varian
GenericUsername
Alliance is a bunch of stoner hippies.
@@sigma1003 actually true xD
A hero of the Alliance!
thrall and varian always showed the best of each faction, as a 100% horde player since early TBC i only have to say, my respect to varian, great character and great leader
Thrall? I don't think so maybie before but now i really don't like him
Thrall is fkin freakin bad stupid ass
@@EdgeyStyle Thrall is basically going into the great denile and depression stages after losing all he tried to accomplish. He practically brought garrosh up to who he was, and was a mentor/father figure to him. After seeing all those wars and battles and the after math of everything, especially with the betraayal of garrosh becoming a psychotic power hungry old god infused chaos, and then killing garrosh, thrall felt like he was failing everyone. Like obi wan kenobi, he basically went into hermit in a cave on a distant land mode. It is a nice little throwback, but that is basically what thrall was doing for a while, and i think he still is. He feels like he has failed everyone, especially garrosh.
@@Spydabreej Because he was ruined by Blizzard.. Thrall in wc3, vanilla, TBC and WOTLK was an amazing leader. Benevolent and honorable, yet brutal and decisive against the enemies of the Horde.
@@Danneman92 What lead Thrall to break free from being, just a 'thrall' was his connection to the elements, it made him into an Orc. While I agree that Blizzard destroyed him, they made a compelling storyline as to why he chose his responsibility as a shaman to the world, over the Horde. He did think Garrosh would be alright since he had Cairne and Vol'jin's counsel. We knew how it turned out, but it also kinda justified why Garrosh turned to how he eventually became. He cut off dissent, and surrounded himself with like minded blokes, of course, he'd turn out broken.
Something very noteworthy during Varian's death: If you noticed Gul'dan's expression, he seemed somewhat frustrated as he was killing him. That's because he was not able to break Varian's spirit. Varian retained his honor in his final moments.
Colin Meenan Finally someone who noticed that too!
TIL King Varian is Sean Bean. RIP Ned Stark.
It wasnt that hard to notice lol. Pretty obvious.
Colin Meenan
Didn't Gul'dan order Garona to kill his dad?
also cuz varian exploded slower than expected
2:30 That still only counts as one!
This needs to be a top comment.
omg lol u deserve more likes in this epic coment.
best comment
hilarious
ROFL
1:56 The moment a King accepted the ultimate sacrifice for his people
"For the Alliance,bitch." - Varian,King of Chad City
Holy fuck Genn is badass in this love his model.
Too bad in game he is fucking shirtless.
That just makes it better ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
No, it REALLY doesn't. Fact is, Genn's in-game model manages to have even MORE problems than REGULAR player Worgen models, from a technical standpoint. Some of the teeth on his lower jaw stretch as his mouth opens, the tips remaining where they are while the rest of the tooth moves away, and his beard clips through his lower jaw when he opens his mouth.
Cinematic Genn: Beautiful. In-game Genn: Not an improvement in the slightest.
+Blazieth Exactly, he look bad ass in that outfit. In game is seemly a massive what the fuck are you doing Blizzard?
Man I just want his coat to be a transmog or an outfit we can wear over our armor, to quote the homeless man from Batman Begins: "It's a nice coat."
As a Horde player, I've always respected Varian Wrynn. He truly was a noble and honorable warrior. Seeing him die like that was horrible for me. This cutscene definitely invoked some emotion.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne
Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
@@weeabooshunter4759 orcs: "victory or death....unless Sylvanas is our raid leader"
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww This is not the Horde we all knew and joined back in Vanilla mate. This is now Sylvanas' Forsaken Cult.
@@weeabooshunter4759 kek noob you dont even know wow thats an orc saying.
Then you're no Horde player.
"Truly"
rofl.
Bad adverbs are bad.
Learn to write, teenager.
Solos and one shots a fel reaver, takes on a pack of felguards alone, and then explodes. Could you ask for a more metal death? Went out like a badass.
Varian is the Spirit of the Warrior class in WoW not Garrosh or Grom.
Uncorrupted by magic, brutal to foes, benevolent to and protective of allies..
Defeated but Never Broken, Sacrifice for others.
For the warriors of Alliance and For the warriors of Horde!
Kinda. Remeber, the horde had Broxigar. He sacrifice himself for Azaroth, was a friend of Malfurion and Tyrande, blessd by Cenarius, batteld solo the Legion and even Sageras. He saved the world, and if he would have still lived, he would have stayed there and hold the line but this time not alone but with Varian( who he would call Lo'Gosh most likely). They are the best of the warrior on both sides.
@@pile-o-nonsense3688 Words of visdom..
oh shit this comment come from person never play WC2 or WC3
Grommash slay Cenaruis demi God and Mannaroth one of the greatest Legion Demons you can go see Grom WC3 cinematic
i know this is 1year old commant but i cant see my Grom disrespected and do nothnig :p
@@Raziel-zm3dv But only after he taisted demonblood a second time. And Mannaroth was killd by him and Thrall. Alternative Grom got the mommend of suprise against Mannaroth. Was is powerfull, but was alsow hotheaded, easy to manipiulate and savage.
Mannaroth is Stronger then Gul'dan ( the one who killed Varian ) and even non corrupted AU Grom killed him with surprise or not
true Grommash not very smart but he good with wars tactics and strategies he very smart in fights and allways look for the enemies week points
after all i want to say Grom is one of the strongest Warriors Azaroth have ever seen with Orgrim and Anduin Lothar ( the Forgotten hero of the Alliance ) and for sure Varian
I think we can all agree that this is the best death cinematic Blizzard has ever created.
Bolvar and Saurfang died as heroes, but Varian went out like a boss!
grommash hellscream mate but this was fucking badass aswell
Surfing a gigantic spaceship into the throat of an even more gigantic space monster was and still is the best and most epic way to go.
This one was nice too though.
I take Grom death over Varian any day.
Agreed!! 100%
None of us were ready for Legion.
None of us.
Sooooo? We were not prepared?
But Illidan told me that we are prepared !
The Illidari are prepared, but everyone else.
illidan tell himself "im going to bang tyrande" and that never happens.
i cant trust him.
Ned stark died also
few years later and my favorite touch is still that Varian's eyes soften when he looks up at the ridge and sees the Legion's reinforcements from where the Horde was stationed. he at least didn't have to think that the Horde had betrayed him yet again right before he died-that expression change says it all: he saw the demons and knew they were set up, not that the Horde was double crossing him. I looooove this cinematic!!
The horde ran like little bitches
@@richardshiflett5181 Because they were losing, lol. It's running or dying and losing ALL leaders of the Horde. Not a a tough call.
@@Danneman92ye the horde are just cowards one leader stayed to die and the other run’d away like a mouse
Such a powerful scene. The emotion that you feel when Varian let’s go of the ship, combined with the music. True artistry.
And after this glorious XP...bfa came..and then SL ...:< +deep sigh+..
Probably the most darkest death and cinematic in Warcraft history. Absolutely heartwrenching.
Also, how come Gul'dan gets all the cool warlock spells, and what was that he used to kill Varian?
Well, he IS the most powerful Mortal Warlock to ever live...
you can loock all that answear in the audios blizzard putted on the oficial wow chanel on YT
they tell the story of guldan on azzertoh and the sageras tomb
i hate gul'dan as a character but i love him as a warlock it would be great if he could teach warlocks some badass spells
Hardcore Freak I think you mean "i hate him as a villain but I love him as a character" which is pretty much the hallmark of a good villain.
Please tell me I'm not the only one crying...
You're not my friend... You're not alone..
Not alone mate.
For the Horde !!! Alliance s*ck
You definitely aren't the only one
This is the saddest moment of the entire world of warcraft cinematic history for me, even if i'm a horde,
FOR THE ALLIANCEEEEEEE
I felt a bit less too when Highlord fordragon died at Angrathar.
Liar, you ain't horde. Shut up alliance dog
Baine is this you?
But by making this comment you're clearly not Horde.
It kills me, every time someone says something like this.
"Wah! I'm sad Varian died and I'm Horde! Wah!"
If you're sad that he's dead then you're not Horde. You just play Horde characters.
Because you're stupid.
@@Vgpl0 Not really. I play Alliance and I am Alliance with all my heart. But I can respect certain Horde characters and even feel bad for them. I respect Saurfang, Thrall to some extend and Lor'Themar has in interesting spot for me.
Re-watching this I realize now. That's not a fel reaver... THAT'S A GAROTHI WORLDBREAKER!! Varian one hit the first boss of Antorus.
Supercritical hit!
Fun fact Varian is the reason the Garothi Worldbreaker has a reinforced head. To stop stuff like that from happening.
It's funny how the Horde's thing is "VICTORY OR DEATH" yet it's Varian who exemplified that better than anyone on the Horde.
That's because Vol'jin died on the Horde side during battle (well mostly) so windrunner decided to retreat
Its not a Horde thing, its an Orc thing. From all the people participant there (if we don't count Thrall ), Varian fighting in the arenas with orc's , having an orc for a mentor there and receiving the name Lo'Gosh - his mentality is closest to ,, Victory or death"' .
It's an orc thing, not a Horde one. As for Varian this had nothing to do with ''Victory or Death'', it was a calculated move with the intent of saving his army. Had he had any other option you can bet he wouldn't be stupid enough to not take it.
That's what happens when u give the reins to a troll.
Uchihasmok3 couldn't be more true Brother. Good thing they gave the leadership to a ud belf. .... wait. what?? !
Farewell, Varian. You were not perfect, but you grew to become a true King. My king. You and your son learned a lot from each other, may he lead with honor as you did. I hope you find peace where you are now, with your dear wife, I'm sure she's really proud of what you've become. You will never be forgotten, Lo'gosh. For Azeroth.
Proudmoore Paladin
My entire life playing WoW I've always been 100% for the Horde (and still am when it comes to alliance vs horde) but god damn Legion made me also love the Alliance.
Varians death scream still ranks as the best I've ever heard in any medium, be it movies, shows or games. The VA is really emptying his full lungs and letting his voice crack and go high. It's absolutely amazing.
We are alliance. We will not forget what transpired this day.
Remember the words of new king "Alliance will not fall because of dead of one leader"
+mitre991 I admit, their cowardice sure helped thing to go south as quickly as it did.
Things like this are why Voljin never trusted Windrunner
"live to fight another day"
That's the main theme of this and the Horde side. The alliance lacked the oversight of the battle, yet the Horde made the call for retreat cause they knew they were outmatched.
cowardice? lol good thing you mongrel aren't leading anyone.
People who see this, please don't watch it with feelings but with the eyes of warfare. The tactical retreat the Horde made was a clear message even for the alliance, yet they stayed because they lacked the overview of the battlefield and thought that they were winning.
Therefor varian sacrificed himself so that others may live to fight another day.
And Gul'Dan died like he killed Varian, that's some poetic justice =)
yeah,what goes around comes around,lol
So he will be remembered as the Warlock who sacrificed his life for NOTHING.
Lol
There is one difference. Varian died with his dignity and his sacrifice having meaning. Gul'dan died broken and having accomplished nothing. One's a hero. The other is a footnote.
Still haha Gul dan killed many hero’s with him summoning the legion , haha team gul dan , Varian such a bitch anyways
Came here after the Ny'alotha cinematic just to remember how REAL in game cinematics should are made.
I love how if you don't see both cinematics you don't realize why the archers pulled back. It's very realistic to see the events from both sides. It makes the conflict between hoard and alliance very realistic
The horde ran. Cowards, always
@@richardshiflett5181 Alliance had more the advantages to flee than the horde. Even if the horde stayed, they'll all die. Silly alliance
@@Bardock059so much for “Lok’tar Ogar” I guess.
@@richardshiflett5181so by your logic, the alliance are cowards to? They also ran. If the horde stayed they would have ALL died. Not just Varian and Voljin.
if you think about it Garrosh finally took his revenge on both varian and vol'jin.
revenge from beyond the grave!
That is just stupid.
AU Gul'dan or burning legion wouldn't be here on azeroth if it wasn't garrosh going to alternate timeline in first place.
+undead4500 But isn't that what Garrosh try to stop in the first place? Hence the whole Iron Horde?
No he went there to stop Guldan from corrupting the horde and obtain the Horde for himself and make them into the Iron Horde, he gave them advanced technology that OU Horde didn't have when they came to invade.
He went there specifically to stop Guldan and be made Warchief.
He never intended for the Legion to invade Azeroth, though. He pretty much hated everything related to fel magic.
"You will be remembered... as the king who sacrificed his life, for nothing..."
No Gul'dan, he died as he lived:
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
GeneticAlgorithm11111001000 YES!!
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I'm a horde player but yeah FOR THE ALLIANCE
MY KING!!!!
Hands down one of the best ingame cinematics Blizzard has ever created.
3:55 is how every alliance player felt
YUS!!
I probably screamed noooo louder tbh
And Horde players who have honor.
I am a horde player(saurfang and thrall's horde)
I felt the same way when king varian died.
@@jellalfernandes1309 The Real Horde, brother.
When he sacrifices himself it reminds me of the scene betweem him and his son at Siege of Orgrimmar.
Anduin: Father, what are you doing?!
Varian: What a king must do
WAIT, that's what Varian says when Anduin sees him after picking up Shalamayne.
I just blew my own damn mind
Damn im good.
And reminds me for how much I hate that scene and most of Pandara for destroying the likability of Jaina's character!
Mad respect for Varian now, now to watch the horde side.
Meh broxigar would have survive :DDDDDDD
+Loquendero Amv Doesn't change the fact that this is still a heroic death.
Thinh Vo Meh it was fun to watch him get chaos bolted :D
+Loquendero Amv it was also fun seeing Vol'jin die by one stab from a. Random Felguards and died in his chair like a wuss
It is fel that made him die, he could recover from even worse wounds before.
I love the look on Gul'dan's face after Varian says "For the Alliance". Gul'dan was furious that he wasn't able to break Varian's spirit. In the end Varian still stood by his principles and who he was.
this
Almost four years later and I still absolutely love this cinematic. Varian's screams as he's being destroyed by fel energy, Genn yelling at the end, Shalamayne being left in the dirt with the light going out. Always been a Horde player but damn this was and is so epic.
Im gon keep killing guldan even during the loockout ....
lmfao.. The feels mate
I shall join you!
The legion will know this as the day, they truly fucked up
All of this could have been prevented if we execute Gul'dan instead of freeing him
But what if gul'dan kills you?
Thank you my king for showing me why Aliance is so bloody awesome... first char in vanilla was an aliance warrior and you just reminded me how awesome we are... this is the 2nd time I cried. Last time was when Arthas died :( . Being Aliance makes me even more proud. PS: The way they killed Tirion is just pathetic... He is one of the greatest paladins and they made him die in such a stupid way...
Tirion is not dead... yet.
TenDisks Since everyone runs with Ashbringer in alpha... he pretty much is :D artifact system with everyone receiving legendaries is so stupid :D
I know he dies... but that happens during the Retribution Paladin questline. And personally, I don't mind that we all get the Ashbringer, not at all. For a start, it wasn't a Legendary Weapon like Shadowmourne or Thunderfury, but an NPC weapon; and secondly, you can always opt out and get sword and shield or the hammer instead :) I have a fair few palas and I'll have one of them get the Ashbringer, another will be full on tank and I'll have a Holy Pala. :)
TenDisks It is ok to be able to have it ... but it should be a rare drop hard to obtain... now every random casual player can have it... back in the day you had to prove your worth for such great weapons :) corrupted Ashrbinger was a privilege
Scourgeborne
well I don't really wanna get into all this too deeply - every casual player is going the leader of his order hall and all that - personally. as I said, I don't mind it. Each to their own, I guess :)
Varian stood true to his words! "What a King must do!" He knew,when he saw the fel reaver, that its either his sacrifice or his people dead, and he made his choice.
indeed, unlike Vol'jin who retreated and died like a bitch on the throne
Remember Victory or Death? The Alliance was more horde than the horde itself that day
Weeaboos Hunter Vol’jin fulfilled his duty to his people by surviving a battle neither faction could win long enough to name a worthy successor to look after them once he was gone.
Varian chose to ignore the signal to retreat and paid the ultimate pride for his foolish pride. Worse yet, he left his people in the hands of two self-serving, corrupt warmongers who are using his own son as a puppet. If anyone went out like a bitch and left a legacy stained with failure, it’s definitely Varian.
@@weeabooshunter4759 did you actually just copy and paste that same exact reply on 3+ other comments
As many times as needed. Its my own comment so i don't see any problem.
If 5 people are bullshiting about the same subject il give the same answer
@@weeabooshunter4759 Yeah, Vol'jin for sure after being mortally wounded and giving orders to save the rest as his death was going the make the Horde leaderless, said ''Oh, and please take me to the safety'' He fell uncouncious and Silvanas just dragged him along . On a hopeless battle he was just the unlucky leader that fell first.
My father taught me many things; strength, devotion, courage, but the most important thing he taught me was sacrifice. Without his sacrifice, the Alliance wouldn't have survived and our world wouldn't have been saved. His actions will echo throughout the ages and his roar will strike fear into our greatest adversaries.
Anduin Wrynn, The Lion of Stormwind We will defeat Sylvanas,High King!
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
Victory.
For Sylvanas.
Go away, traitor king. You sacrificed the nelves without remorse. THIS is what the Alliance really is.
Varian would have survived if he wasn't enraged and taking 30% more damage. Gul'dan didn't kill him, bad class design did.
summoner's rift in nutshell, atleast genn- I mean warwick is doing his job. this is not world of warcraft, just new league of legends graphics pls.
should have popped enraged regeneration and self healed a bit with bloodthirst
Also, how could he respec from Arms into SMF Fury while being in combat ffs
he didn't let the tank do his job and aggro'd too much trash. off the tank. SMH
Should've bubble hearthed.
"Father, what are you doing?"
"What a King must do!"
The Alliance with always be my favorite faction. FOR THE ALLIANCE!
I stopped playing a while ago. But my heart still lies with the Alliance. I can't not tear at this. It was such a major part of my life.
Can we just appreciate Mekkatorque slaughtering that Doom Lord at 0:17?
I was looking for a comment like this,
First gnome in an actual cinematic! Fell the love :)
The only gnome I like. Mekkatorque is awesome!
And this also shows why there are no gnomes in any other cinematic, because if there were, the game would consist of nothing but gnomes.
Thats a fel lord.
www.strawpoll.me/10992362/r please help me pick a class for legion
You can always count on the horde to be cowards.
Lmao, wow really bro? They had to leave because they were being overrun. Varian did the same thing to defend his people except Varian would sacrifice himself whereas the Horde would retreat to fight another day. There's no cowardice in that my friend. Mind You, nothing was stopping Varian from getting on that ship with Genn, he thought it best to sacrifice himself their just in case Gul'dan launched another meteor blast. Then again, who knew if he could even fire off another one of those things and hit his mark seeing as he completely missed the first time.
+Alcaedus yes varian could've fled, so everyone would've died. the robot caught the ship, they wouldn't be able to go anywhere unless someone destroys that thing.
That's true, considering if Varian's sword was enough to destroy it, then theoretically one of Mekkatorque's Blast would've been able to do the trick as well no? Come on man, this is all written this way for plot, but we know that more could've been done man. It's just amazing how ppl know why the Horde had to leave, but still gets mad and calls them cowards. PPl eat this stuff up haha
+Alcaedus "Its been written this way" this is what people need to understand yeah. we know that logically it could've happen in a totally different, a better way, but thats the plot we were given, there is nothing to argue about.
Lol I wasn't arguing bro. I simply stated why I felt this dude was wrong to say the Horde were cowards. You didnt see me insult anyone did you? There's no argument, just a vivid defense for the horde since they weren't showing cowardice at all. If Vol'jin and Thrall weren't hurt, they would've stayed and fight, plain and simple.
"For the alliance." Fuckin chills dude.
Even years later this still gives me goosebumps. Varian will always be one of my favorite Alliance characters.
The feels. omfg
Agreed. Varian was kind of a d--k on occasion, but this made me weep. The feels :(
aber warum ist sylvanas gegangen ???
Weil sie eine Verräterin ist? Man kann der Horde eben nicht Trauen
Digga ich bin nur Horde spieler die Horde hat schon öfters die Welt gerettet pff
Vol'jins Befehl - "Lasst die Horde nicht sterben". Siehe Zwischensequenz auf Hordenseite.
His question: "Why did Sylvanas leave???"
"Vol'jin's command: 'Do not let de Horde die.' - as seen in the Horde cinematic."
Hey Horde, probably shouldn't make your battlecry "victory or death" if you're gonna run away as soon as you're losing. Just a suggestion.
That's the saying of the Orcs, not the Horde as a whole. That is why I still prefer the Horde from Wc3 (tauren trolls orcs) which were 10x badass as this Horde is
Odd, that's what the Alliance was doing in this cinematic as well. Selective outrage, much?
Bleeding Eye Watcher tf? The alliance stayed till the end, and sacrificed their king. The horde left as soon as the fight wasn't in there favor.
Bleeding Eye Watcher they did after you horde trash left FIRST!!!
As if the entire horde sacrifices itself only that the Alliance can carry their victory away and most likely take over Azeroth after that.
There is a difference between bravery and stupidity.
I 've never seen a video game depict the feeling of pain and agony so well before.. Look his face at 3:37... Unbelievable
8 years later, and this cinematic still brings me to tears. Every single time.
20240815
never thought i would say this, about any gnome or goblin... EVER. But Mekkatorque is a damned badass!
"Tell 'em to make it count." S-052 Jorge
one other note, why does the horde see 90% of this, but the alliance is told almost nothing of why the horde fell back? if you havent seen it already, i highly advise it.
Wrathgate 2.0 probably.
Also Mekkatorque is the exact opposite of the gnome stereotype. Damn shame his people are seena s comic reliefs when in fact they're the most advanced race in terms of technology in the World (SoO displays that very well). I wish more gnomes would be able (lorewise) to take down 3 troggs at once like Mekkatorque once did....
Vierynbryn all Goblins know that that is why they steal our Gnomish Technology. >:(
anyone else crying
yea
😭😭😭😭
no shit damnit horde if they didnt left the alliance varian had a chance to live!
nvm i just watched the horde cinematic...
LIKE DIS IF U CRY EVRTYM
By far THE best cinematic for a new wow addon! The broken shore was so freaking god damn good and top of that this was just a PREPATCH! They did this all just for generating a hype for the next addon, they never did this effort before or after legion. And the cinematic nailed it so hard, everywhere is danger and regardless what we do the legion was stronger at this point and really felt like a serious danger to us and azeroth. peak writing
Can we have a moment of silence for the soldier at 1:53 who goes face first into that reaver...atleast he went quickly
Seeing this from the Alliance perspective after going through it as Horde really makes it seem as if "we" abandoned the Alliance in that battle, but from the perspective of the Alliance they didn`t see the endless tide of demons flanking the Horde forces. If the Horde had stayed it would have changed nothing except adding more corpses on the ground.
I tip my hat off to Varian though, he went out like a true hero.
Blizzard wants to made another wrath gate 2.0
is it also true that Legion ships are assaulting the Horde on that ridge?
Vazruden Yeah. Thrall got nuked by 3 legion airships.
You did abandon us.
@thin vo & mrantidk If the horde wouldn't retreat, the expansion would be over soon after that battle. And you wouldn't even get to play it. Because the legion would face no real resistance if all azeroth forces were dead. It was a foolish attempt to rush down to tomb of sargeras without any knowlage of enemy power at the first place. You are a clueless fool if you think otherwise.
Victory or flee. Good ol horde.
This was logical lol. If they fell with Varian, Azeroth would be doomed. Sylvannas was smart enough to know this.
Let's wait for the horde one before we judge.
Oh yes. Let us all die at the Broken Shore so that the Legion can overrun everything else because all leaders are dead! That seems like a logical decision.
***** Watched it on stream it shows what happens it gives context to why they leave. It's pretty cool actually both factions lost two great leaders.
Good ol alliance kids. Never waiting for the Horde's side of the story. You are far from being the good guys lol
When you haven't run into it in a while but the Fel Reaver sound still makes you jump
0:44 Varian knows something is happening in the other side, he refuse to belive the horde is running away you can see it in his face, that's a king
Not sure that's how he felt, at least not 100%, if so he would have said for Azeroth before dying imo
*cough* Broxigar would've totally survived that *cough*
true
Broxigar is not a Canon character.
Nah, he is. He even has a tiny cameo in a flashback in one of the dungeons. I believe it is Black Rook Hold.
+Kerath
he is now, you can find him in the Illidan flashbacks.
He is
The fact that Gul'dan was the one who willed Garona to kill King Llane all those years ago makes Varian's last stand that much more powerful. Face to face with his most hated enemy. He gave his all and failed. Just like his father did, but there's still a certain peace about it, killed by the same person who killed his father. Llane was a good king, but no warrior. Varian was a good king and a warrior, but the fact that they couldnt defeat the same enemy brings about a sense of comfort I think. Varian achieved so much in his life, much more than his father did, so when he didn't do more than Llane in this situation, I can imagine Varian feeling like a child again, comforted by a parent. Back when he wasn't stronger than him at anything, it could've brought him a sense of nostalgia and again, comfort, had Varian felt this during his last moments.
And the fact that Varian was so devastated after Stormwind's Fall once he made it to Lordaeron, he still peaked over the balcony in the Capital City's throne room to witness the formation of the Alliance of Lordaeron. Years later, he fights beside two of its original members - Genn Greymane and Gelbin Mekkatorque, against a shade of the same enemy, Gul'dan. Of course Varian's last words were "For the Alliance"... brilliant, just so fucking brilliant.
Technically, he wasn't killed by Guldan, but rather by bunch of demons roaming around him. I guess Varian would wipe his ass with Guldan in 1v1.
Even if I'm pure Horde, Varian's scream at 2:52 broke my heart.
For those saying Varian's death hurt. No. Do not mourn him. Celebrate him and celebrate that any character in lore could be given this amazing of a sendoff.
His was one of the best deaths in all of Warcraft's history. He went out in an actual blaze of glory the likes of which you'd have to bring up MU Grom, Broxigar or Anduin Lothar to equal. Fearless in the face of certain death, taking as many of his enemies with him as he possibly could. Defiant to the last.
Compare how Varian went out to Saurfang just one expansion later if you want the hurt to come back.
Also.. the short exchange between Genn and Varian before Varian takes his leap into history and legends. That small knowing nod and look as Genn realized exactly what he intended to do and said nothing to try and dissuade him, knowing it was painfully, horribly necessary... that might be one of the manliest moments I've ever seen in a video game. It's actually perfect.
Exactly. although it still hurts to this day THIS is how you kill a beloved character. You send them off at their highest. Not only with cool action scenes but with their personalities and values coming out in full form. This cinematic alone cements what Varian Wrynn has been up until that point.
Best leader through all WoW series..rest in peace, Varian...FOR THE ALLIANCE!
At least they weren't stupid enough to make his last words "For Azeroth".
Actually, if you look at the lip sync when he says it, it looks like they redubbed it at the last minute. That was the right choice.
I went and rewatched that part. His lips very clearly say "For the Alliance".
Oh fuck you. World ending threat and everyone's like "FER THE HERD" or "FER THE ALLIENS", you lot are gonna die if you stay divided goddammit.
A little last minute racism for the hell of it :P
We don't need no Alliance, fuck em.
I had never felt so proud to be alliance until 3:29...
Farewell my king!
All hail the king ...The one and only alliance king... You will live In us forever brother... FOR THE ALLIANCE !!!
crying for movies ok, crying for an ingame cinematic, u know blizzards team did an amazing job, jesus christ this was good. rip varian
Rest in Peace, King Varian Wrynn, the most badass king Azeroth has ever known... *Takes my draenic warhammer in hand* Death to the cowards of the Forsaken! This is the last time they betrayed us! We demand justice!
More and that It the Legion we after.
Has no one noticed what Varian did? The 2nd time Varian looks where the Horde was, he saw the Legion was exactly where the Horde was. He knew they didn't retreat to "betray" the Alliance. They retreated because if they stayed, nothing would have been gained from this outcome, and the Horde would of lost several critically important members of the Horde.
Yep they all would have died then. Varian saw this, unlike the butthurt kids in the comment section
@@Jinny-Wa and Genn :)
They're deserters which is arguably the worst crime on battlefield
@@adskuydrochula Not really. They are allies, with a leader that saw no hope in battle and ordered the retreat, deserters defy orders of battle and the alliance doesn't decide their actions, still as allies there wasn't time to ask the alliance for a retreat as they were separated. Both sides were battling with courage yet still losing. The bad luck for the horde was that their leader was injured first (For the alliance it was bound to happen at some point) so he, fully knowing what his death would bring, decided to give a ''last order''. As much as the conflict between Horde and Alliance exist, both sides can agree that this was a hopeless fight, at some point one side will retreat first. The alliance was just the lucky one that didn't suffer first and was allowed to be the ones that ''fought even when the other side retired''
This shit made me want to play Alliance
Then do so, join us!
Prepare for a lot of BG losing.
I've never understood this. Is it that maybe you just suck? It is closer to 60/40 victories when I BG as Alliance.
Steve Urkel Yes. Its because I suck. Its not like I have an Alt on horde with the same class , specc etc.. but smh I win with my horde character but lose with my Alliance.
Pokerface ™ then try isle of conquest alliance have a big advantage horde doesn’t even play it much that’s how big the alliance advantage is
"You will be remembered as the king who sacraficed his life for nothing"
"FOR THE ALLIANCE !"
:(
can we take a moment and agree in HOW AWESOME GREYMANE LOOKS HERE
Even as Horde player, hearing Varian scream in pain like that shattered my heart.
Alternate Ending...
King Varian: “GET WINDRUNNER’S ARCHERS TO CLEAR THE SKY...”
*Horde messenger arrives.*
Messenger: “Lord Varian. Our WarChief Vol'jin is in critical condition and we need to regroup. Lady Sylvanas is aware that the Alliance will be out gunned without the Horde and is willing to give you enough cover fire to successfully fallback.”
King Varian: (Processes this for a moment.) “Very well. In return, I will send some of our best healers to tend for your WarChief.”
*Both sides begin retreat in unison. Less casualties in the retreat. King Varian and Vol'jin survive. Jaina Proudmoore stops being a paranoid bitch. And everyone is chill.*
Indeed.
Its a point I been bringing up for two years now. The Horde left the Alliance for dead on the Broken Shore, leaving Varian no choice but to sacrifice himself to save everyone else. Instead of retreating together as a unified force, the cowards simply booked it and left them there. Hadn't they deduced the cowards left them for dead with the sound of the horn, all of them would have been wiped out.
Its why Genn and Jaina have a right to be angry at the Horde's cowardice.
Jaina isn't a paranoid bitch. the Horde's literallt backstabbed her about six times.
Paranoid? Fuck the horde. Backstabbing cunts.
@@Ghoffman91 Good to know that after two years, the fact that Horde was fighting on two fronts while Alliance held one still didn't sink in.
How dare they, cowards, should've lasted even longer in this slaughter for glorious Alliance to acknowledge and organize a retreat... by a gunship no less. And THEN they can go back to their normal ships on foot with the Legion breathing down their backs, once the Alliance finally got its shit together.
His scream absolutely kills me.
i cant belive the horde leader pussied out and varian went out like chuck norris
you might wan't to take a look at the horde cinematic first and see why she "pussied" out
Because the Horde couldn't even clear trash mobs? Gets "ambushed" according to all the horde players, on the high ground? Loses their gunship, again? She pussied out because the Horde is a faction of failures.
yeah it is, yet you see alliance players complaining about how the horde is favored at everything yet a fucking thrash mob killed vol'jin and they made varyan look like a real hero
Maybe you should watch both, the Legion planed that battle, those demons that 'died' will be back as they didn't die in the twisted nether. The Legion drew out the leaders of both factions to deal huge blows to both sides.
I'm calling it, Varian is going to come back.
Sylvanas was getting over run herself, broken shore was a lost cause the moment they attacked.
Leeroy Jenkins'.
That is the beauty of it, the 'Perspective'. That said your 'Warchief' and his forces routed, ours fought on till our King decided to order them off. That is Honor, Discipline and Loyalty, to the bitter end.
That is Alliance!
2:10 That split second of emotion shown, that he would miss his friend Gedd, that he would never see his son or his empire again. Only for a split second, then another split second of resignation " This is what I must Do", followed by the destruction of both previous emotions with the fire of bravery and martyrdom. I cried at this moment. As should you.
FOR THE ALLIANCE!!!
Александр Лобзов YEAH!!!
FOR THE HORDE!!!! Go go go Broxxigar
FOE THE HORDE
LONG LIVE THE ALLIANCE!!!
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
After studying the alliance and the horde cinematics I came to this conclusion:
The horde faced dreadguards, doomguards, 1 dread infernal and a portal. Their leader died because he did not pay attention and they where not to able to hold ground.
The alliance faced felguards, doomguards 1 dread infernal, 1 pit lord, Lord Jaraxxus (the red giant one) and the main portal. they where able to hold the ground so far, but decided to retreat after the horde bailed. Their leader died to let the rest escape and killed 1 fel reaver and several dreadguards before he was killed.
Just let this sink in, and you should find out what faction is the superior one.
Not only Jaraxxus, the Dreadlord Trio, including Tichondrious himself, as well as Brutallius from Sunwell and many other named demons.
Also the eredar twins
The Horde was facing 4x as many demons and was being bombarded by at least 3 Legion spaceships. It’s pretty clear they had the tougher fight from the get-go.
It's almost like someone wrote these stories this way.. really makes you think
Shit poster says what?
The death of the last Great Leader in this game, the beggining of wow's death too.
I know this is way later, but when Varian closed his eyes @1:57 he new he had to scarify himself to save Genn and the Alliance's ship. That literally brought me to tears during the Cinematic, and still now. Great work as always!
Just saying but if Mathias Shaw hadn't fucked up and gotten himself captured, this whole thing could've been avoided. #roguecampaign
I'm crying, Lo'gosh will always be my favorite character.... Our leader died a hero's death, while the Horde pussies were running away. He's a true king, just like Llane and Lothar.
Compared to what the alliance was facing below , the horde had it it easy.
You guys are all dumb both the horde and the alliance suffered greatly, and both warchiefs made a decision better for their own faction, voljin was gonna die and he knew that if he died right there the horde would have been weak and died among him, thats why he retreated, varian made the decision of saving his troops by sacraficing himself to save others, Both are heroes of azeroth
... Lothar was never king.
SquirbToons He was basically a king, and if nothing else he was an amazing leader
Actually, no they didn't. I've played both scenarios. The Horde actually fight much more demons in the final stage and in larger groups. Both factions are dealing with a lot, but the ones fighting the Alliance come in smaller waves whereas the demons up on the ridge fighting the Horde come in ridiculously big groups to the point they're overrun because they can't get near the portal constantly spewing them out. The Horde have no choice but to retreat, Vol'jin gets stabbed, Thrall is down on the ground and Baine is beginning to get surrounded.
All these arguments between the factions players, especially the "horde are pussies" one, is ridiculous because if the positions were switched the Alliance would have retreated too because they would have known the battle was lost and there was no point in staying just to die. If the Horde stayed they all would have died and then the Alliance would have died soon after. It would make no sense for either faction to stay and lose several of their leaders and most powerful heroes in the very first battle. The Legion had the far superior force because both factions only took a small force because they didn't realise that the Legion had an army, they thought it was just a vanguard.
And that's why i always choose the Aliance over the horde
that power and freedom of the free will that Varian has is so inspirational
For Varian!
Well, it's official guys...
ALLIANCE > HORDE
Lol no, but nice try
No hes right horde are pussies voljin went out like a bitch thrall didnt do shit and sylvanas ran away varian was a badass
anduin ...
Lonely Jew Gaming 11 Likes to my 51. Admit defeat and we might just let your race join the Alliance
ElAshtonio So you're comparing youtube likes to try and say the alliance are better? Seems pretty fucking stupid to me.
almost 3 years later and its still giving me goosebumps
Gul'dan's villainy is so frustrating, and Varian's courage and tenacity is really inspiring. Cinematics have always been a strong point of Blizzard and they really lived up to the occasion here. Still love watching these (even in the year 2022) even though I no longer play.
I have to admit, I teared up at the end.
That was a dick move from Sylvanas, eh? ( I watched the Horde Cinematic, i'm horde too, but was a "How to be a pussy" tutorial )
JK, she saved everyone
sorry but Vol'jin is the one who told sylvanas to retreat.
undead4500 Understandable, but still :P
Yeah! How dare she try to get the warchief to safety. Fuck her man. Its not like the horde was getting attacked from every side possible, nooo.
The Horde was outnumbered by the legion one to infinite, Sylvanas had no such choice either fight and die or save the rest of the horde from being massacred. In a battle where you losing and outnumbered, it is always the wise choice to retreat and fight another day. There is no such thing as cowardice in a battle like this.
Aodaic There, was it so hard, guys?
This man just rocked the cinematics. Comment-bait like mine are not to be trusted ( Yes, i was trolling you guys, but for a good purpose )
Lesson learned, good day *Bows and leaves*
Even after 5 Year my tears running down my face for Varian. It is the emotionally cinematic what blizzard has done. I grow with Varian so I had a deep connection to him.
Horde player here. This guy didn't die only a hero. He died a fucking legend.