AMAZING ALVIS TD21 etc barn find cars & parts collection | Chris Prince
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2023
- Barns full of Alvis TD21, TE21 and TF21 parts and restoration projects greeted me recently on a trip over to Chris Prince Ltd, a specialist of many decades in the supply of parts to suit post-war Alvis cars. A huge thanks to Chris for taking time out in his day to walk me around his impressive new and used parts stores, plus his own collection of assorted restoration projects. I admit to being very taken by several of the "barn find" Alvis TD21 fixed head cars that were dotted around his buildings and would happily have brought one or two home with me, perhaps fortunately funds and space put paid to that notion for the timebeing.
As well as complete restorable examples of the Alvis TD, TE and TF range, there were quite a few cars in Chris' collection that were well beyond economical restoration but could still yield useful parts to help keep other examples of these fine classic cars on the road. Several of the earlier Alvis TA21 saloons were also in evidence. I don't think I've ever visited an establishment with such a vast assortment of new and use parts in stock, especially bearing in mind that these fine motor-cars were not produced in huge numbers in the first place.
Thanks also to Chris for sharing some Alvis TD21 etc buyer's tips on where to look for rot, both in the extensive ash framing incorporated within these cars but also in the chassis box sections, illustrated in this video by a close look at a bare rolling chassis that happened to be accessible.
Overall, a very interesting morning. To find out more about Chris' spare parts service for the post-war Alvis, please see his website: www.chrisprince.co.uk/
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What an incredible place. It's great to know that in today's world there are still beacons of yesterday shining bright.
Good to see that Elvis hasn't quite left the building yet! Puts me in mind of many years ago a friend had a TD21 drop-head and some of the antics we got up to... possibly not best talked about on a public forum! Keep up the good work and look forward to more 'finds'....
Lovely old Alvi. Henry was the star of the show wanting to be petted.
Growing up in the fifties and sixties the Alvis was a rare sight,in my area at least.
Fantastic video. All we need now is for you or your youthful assistant to go and see how the continuation models are made. Love the Red Triangle 😊
What a great film love your channel, pity Chris didn’t have a full resto for us to lust over . Keep up
The good work
Thanks, there are some restored beauties in this compilation I did a while back: ua-cam.com/video/EujodsJ90lw/v-deo.html
Great video RJ, fascinating place and Chris seems to be a nice guy and he knows exactly what he has there.
I have ordered parts from Chris Prince before for my TD21 but had no idea what his place looks like. Thank you for this video, it's great to see all these cars and parts. Indeed, he's the reason so many Alvis' are still running
Glad it was of interest!
What a stunning place ! 60 years ago, when I was a school boy, a friends Dad had an Alvis, and I was always envious of him, even then, thinking what beautiful cars they were. What an excellent service Chris is providing - you need it, Chris will have it - somewhere. Great video Rick, and so interesting to learn about the cars construction. Thanks for sharing, and yes - more of this type of video would be fun too. Take care 🙂
who dosen't love an Alvis. The age old question is what is a collective of Alivs called " Alvi" maybe😅
Try to find a stash of prewar Alvis!
This was another enjoyable episode, thanks!
JIM ❤
Years ago when I was buying a green Volvo 122S from a retired couple, there was an Alvis 12/50 chassis and various other parts stashed down the side of their garage. I wish I'd asked about them, that's the closest I got to pre-war Alvis discoverin'.
I think the word obsession comes to mind . The TD bodywork is so complex and prohibitively expensive to repair l think the greater part of this collection will never see the light of day . And alas , the same can be said for the collection of parts . Thanks Richard
Welllll they survive, that's the main thing, and all the viable projects are in reasonably dry storage. Parts get shipped all over the world which helps keep existing examples on the road.
That was very interesting thanks Rick, something you don't see every day on a make of car that was undeservedly underappreciated by the general public. I first became aware of these cars through my late father who always wanted one. I owned a TC 21/100 Grey Lady in the 90's for about 5 years. For a low production car quite a lot came to NZ in the 50's, many bought by sheep station farmers who became "rich" due to the price of the wool clip at the time. Not as many TD to TF came here though, but a bloke I knew in the Alvis club restored a beautiful TD series 1 fixed head and painted BRG. Great to see the chassis "unclothed" as I only ever saw mine as a complete unit. The engine had the heaviest valve cover I have ever pulled. It was cast metal, heavily enameled and this was said to have contributed to the quietness of the unit. Sold my one to return to flathead v8's which has always been my passion ( my father was sad on this).
Fascinating video, certainly one of the most gorgeous post war British cars ever produced, especially the dropheads.I recall as a boy seeing a primrose -yellow Graber bodied TE 21 drophead with chrome wire wheels parked up in London which left such a lasting impression , one of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen .
Thanks, until just a few years ago there was a gent local to us that used to drive around in a drophead TE21 (alternating with his XJS convertible), I think both have found new homes now though.
A great video. More of this type would be greatly appreciated, if possible. Thanks.
Thanks, I'll see what I can do
As with all your videos there is always an item that drags me down memory lane, and this video is no exception as it has examples of a an Alvis drophead of which in the late '50s an uncle had a second hand one in two tone black and white which I remember fondly. Alvis cars were usually owned by people for their restrained quality and beauty that lacked of what is called 'show', just like Daimlers were owned by discerning people whereas spivs and nouveau riche had Rollers to show off in!
Thanks for another jem!
Rob
Thank you for another interesting day out no rain and home safely loved the video.
Went on a tour of the production line from Coventry Tech College in 61 or 62. Cannot recall the Ash frame being mentioned, but it was a long time ago. We then went onto the Stalwart line.
What a treat to have someone presenting a video that actually knows about the Alvis! Very many thanks for posting this excellent video, I used to have a lovely TD21 Ser II which I think was the best looking post war Alvis , the mystery to me is how Chris Prince has acquired so many of the magnificent vehicles, there were less that 200 TD 21s made, and most of them seem to be here, I have dealt with Chris Prince and found him to be an absolute fist class person ,full of enthusiasm and knowledge, but I had not realised that he had such a fantastic collection , I only hope that his knowledge and enthusiasm is passed on to someone for the future of this thoroughbred marque Chris B.
Glad it was of interest, yes it's a proper mine of parts and information that place and there was much temptation in the main barn
Well that was different and very enjoyable. People with such knowledge are sadly few and far between. If I had an Alvis I would know where to turn parts. I do like these cars, such lovely lines. Thanks Rick for the video and thanks to Chris for showing us around. Finally may the cats keep up their good work, nothing worse than mice in a classic car! 👍👍
What a great vid at a fasinating place, I love seeing collections like this. Well done 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
The Alvis TD21 is similar in style to the Facel Vega, Henry and Royston have the security sorted. 🙀 👍
Well Done! Rick, an excellent video I enjoyed the format. My love is Jaguar so maybe a visit to Barrats would be good
A great video fantastic place with top cars
Thank you
The web site is also very good
I think videos of other car specialists is a good idea
Thanks for your time another treat😊😊😮
In the past there were so many different makes of luxury cars to choose from, Alvis, Lanchester, Armstrong Siddeley, Humber, Bristol, Jaguar, Daimler, Rolls, Bentley etc.
Wonderful video, wonderful place, and a very stimulating conversation between two gentlemen. Nowadays, the kind of dedication it takes to become so financially and emotionally invested in one thing, ANY one thing, let alone an old motor marque, gets you looked at sideways.
Thanks for giving it a watch!
Wow I’ve just discovered this video! At 31.40 & 36.20 the Green TD21 Reg 329 KPB is my dad’s old car! Please let me know if you buy, we’ve got lots of old photos of it on family holidays. It was previously owned by the chairman of the Alvis club!
Cooooool!!! If that's the pale green one, yes it would probably be the one I'd go for, not sure I have the time, space and funds to do it justice, maybe one day!
Great vid. What an Aladdin’s cave of wonderful old cars
Thanks!
My name is Steven Alvis and I would love to have one of these cars
I’ve wanted a td21 for years and had no idea there was so much timber involved in the construction. 👍🏿
I'm not sure whether looking at all these examples made me want one more, or scared me off!
@@oldclassiccarUK or whether joinery is cheaper than welding.
Alvis is alive, and seen living in a shed in Shropshire !!!!😊
Ooops, wrong Elvis !!!!😅😂
Off to Belgium?
To be restored?
Good of the Belgians to help us out, in this tricky situation.
Thank you to Richard, and Chris, for this great video. As a long time lover of British cars, I am disappointed that I cannot recall seeing any of these later models in Australia. The earlier cars are quite common though.
Mulliner is Mulliner of Birmingham, rather than HJ Mulliner. They also made the standard bodies for the Daimler 15
Indeed, the same M of B also did the body on my big green truck
Fantastic place for an iconic car. Very interesting to see how theses greats were put together. ore of the same would be nice. All the best Bob
All I can Say is WOW! What a place. Those post war Alvii (?) are so great looking. Here in the US they are a very rare sight and then only at concours or the Hershey, PA Fall meet. Thanks to Chris for letting you have a look around his pile. Yes, if possible, I'd like to see more of this kind of visit on the OCC network.
Pleased that you found it interesting!
It's very sad to see quality vehicles end up so neglected and rotted, but nonetheless a fascinating video. I detected a definite twitching of your credit card, but remember there's still that A40 project to finish!🙂The cats were the stars of the show!
Very true, I daren't get another big job although there was a great deal of temptation in those barns ...
Really enjoyable
I like to see more videos like this
If I can find suitable collections, ideally residing in dusty barns, then I'll be there in a jiffy
😁👍
I hope Mrs OCC is on board with the upcoming Alvis project coming to the channel shortly !!! 😂
I think I'd be living in it if I took on something else!!!!!
I have a lovely photo of my parents with there Alvis I believe it was a speed twenty ,love to have it now
Sounds great
I Hate to say this as a British Car Enthusiast but mostly what i see in the video is a Goldmine of parts and Peices that could be turned into some Worthy and desired Items but it would take a lot of time and money to do so of course the beauty of the parts would be not only Alvis Enthusiasts but that British Leyland used many of the same parts for other Makes and Models like Lucas Guages,Suspension Parts and many other interior and exterior Accessories I personally Enjoy more of the T Series and The XKE and several of the 2 Seater Convertibles of several of the Brands i’d be interested in maybe knowing if any of the Frames in this Hoard could be salvaged and possibly Rebodied ?
They've survived, that's the main thing, and will either be used for parts or rebuilt at some point. The alternative would have been for them to be scrapped years ago, and they'd be gone forever, so to see them stored in the dry for now is fine by me. Thanks for watching.
Sad to see that so many had been left to rot in the rain. Inevitable, probably, as parts ceased to be available and repair costs would have exceeded the value of the cars.
The ones outside were rough when they were found, I guess in the 70s they wouldn't have been worth much so gradually deteriorated
Are those wire wheels 15 inch diameter ? looking for 14 × 6 wheels.
I didn't check at the time of filming, I was too amazed at how many cars were there
Pardan my ignorance, but whats the difference between a drop head and fixed head ?
A drop head has a folding roof (like a convertible), a fixed head has a solid metal roof
Nice video would of liked a bit of info on that steam engine, my grandad s younger brother had a couple of Alvis second one in mid sixties when i was small kid
I forget what the steamer was called, I know it was a portable job rather than being self-propelled
Thanks maybe next time you talk to him
The discovery is a future classic as well.
I guess so, although as a former Disco 2 owner I'd quite happily leave it where it is :-) When it was working, it was great though.
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Tip for interviewing: Let the man talk.
That first Alvis, only needed a bit of filler. Always enjoy your enthusiasm for four wheel transport. Ride on Old Classic Car.
Even I'm not that creative with the Isopon! Thanks for looking in
I love an Alvis, especially the elegant TC21 'Grey Lady'. Great to see there's stock available at Chris's place but I fear that his stock will outstrip the demand in the long term unless a lot of young enthusiasts suddenly develop an interest in Alvis cars. Found the video interesting and sad in equal measure.
I agree that the vast stock of bonnets may take a while to find new homes, thanks for watching
Why does this interviewer ask the expert a question and then talk and interrupt all the way through the answer/explanation?
Do you complain about everything? Thanks for watching.
A gray lady perhaps
He may be an enthusiast and a restores BUY Why One Earth would anyone leave such rare cars outside to rot away and turn to dust, Just for the sake a £10 tarp
The ones outside were already in very poor state when they were acquired, anything with potential for restoration went undercover. Thanks for watching.
@@oldclassiccarUK Yes, I get that but on so many videos and even classic cars show like Bangers and Cash cars are left to rot But a £10 sheet of plastic could save it for the future. Keep up the good work and I hope to see you at a show sometime in 2024