🪵These Logs Are Worth How Much⁉️
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- I have started running some numbers on this log and what I have found may or may not surprise you.. But it did me!! We go over how much firewood is in these logs, how much they'll bring at the sawmill, and how much we can get out of the lumber if we mill them ourselves!!
Thanks for the information Brandon. You did some great research man. I’ve often wondered how much certain logs would be worth in firewood but never ran the numbers on it.
Very much enjoyed it!!
My curiosity got the best of me for sure! I was quite surprised at the outcome both ways. I did get confirmation from a local sawyer to me that I gave some logs to that he got $2.50/bf out of red oak green right off the mill. Appreciate ya Jacob 👍🏻🪓🪵
Hi Brandon, the lumber question has always been on my mind. I wish you lots of luck with the saw mill . Great info and interesting video. Brandon you did receive a sticker from us right? I’m showing I send one out. Let me know if
Thanks Allen. I was really curious, so I just set down and did a little homework. Kinda surprised at the results! I did get your stickers and I’m pretty sure I sent you one as well. Let me know if you didn’t get it. I think I saw where you’ll be at Hoosier Firewood Hysteria? If so I’ll see you there 👍🏻
@@McKameyFarms Brandon looking forward to meeting you.
That is an awesome looking log . Good logs are always worth more selling them than turning em into firewood . Now turn them into lumber yourself an it really pays off . As long as you have the market to sell fresh cut lumber that’s the way to go . You can always stick it an let it air dry first and a yr or 2 later it’s ready to be planed out an used but you risk the lumber cupping and twisting an an then it’s baisicaly worthless . I prefer to sell all our lumber fresh cut and for oak around here it averages 2 bd ft for fresh cut .
I think on this Red Oak, it’s definitely better to sell green especially if the buyer is going to be using it for outdoor projects. So with it being green, I feel like $2/bf is a good selling price on green red oak 👍🏻 I definitely think having a mill is the only way to come out on harvesting logs. Keep as much of it in-house as possible
Great information there bud. Take care.
Thank you. I was really hopeful it would be useful to some. It opened my eyes up on a few things for sure
Take care,
Brandon
Hey Brandon , you have done your homework . Can’t wait to see the mill in operation !! 👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks Del, yea I might have got a little deep in my math! I had smoke coming’s out of my ears 🤣🤣 Hadn’t done that much calculating since High School. All jokes aside, I was really surprised at the price jump from raw log form selling to the log yard versus lumber after milling it!
Have a good week Del 🪵🪵🇺🇸
Great info. Thank you!
I appreciate it! It opened my eyes for sure!
Very interesting Brandon! Crazy how much the lumber is worth👍👍
That’s what I thought as well Jeremiah. I know that those estimates are in the higher side and for kiln dried lumber, but even at $2/bf for green lumber it’s still a pretty good profit. I think the key in a smaller scale is just having your own mill. That’s the only way to come out on it
Take care and have a good week
Good information. Looking forward to seeing you get your mill going.
Thanks Joe. I’m getting closer everyday. Just all the fine detail/finishing step things that take time. I definitely feel like having your own mill is the only way to come out with logs! On a small scale anyway
Great info there bud . Apparently I messed up , dang I did it again.
Thank you Don. It was definitely an eye opener on quite a few things when I started running numbers. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
That's some great info. It's interesting to hear the difference in value between firewood and lumber. Looking forward to see that big red oak slabbed up. Take care my friend
It was really an eye opener when I started running numbers. I was pretty shocked at what the log yard was paying versus what the lumber could be sold for! Even at $2/bf, it’s still a huge difference in value from log form to lumber form
Good info Brandon. I get told all the time on the channel “ you need to send that log to the mill” I found out that unless you have a whole bunch of logs to sell, in my area most mills don’t want to mess with it. Single logs here and there are best to find the right person who wants live edge slabs for table making🤷♂️ I have a couple walnut logs I’m debating on right now. Take care! See ya in a couple weeks👊🏻
You’re exactly right Todd. It seems like unless you have a mill to turn the logs into lumber yourself, then the sawmills and log yards are going to give you bare bones money on the logs. Even logs on a smaller size are still hard to handle, load and haul.
Great Job! Thank you!
Appreciate it Stephen.. I know it’s like everything else, you’ll only get out of it what someone is willing to pay you for it. But I feel like the only way to really profit from it on a smaller level is to have a mill and mill the lumber yourself. Take care and have a great week 👍🏻
I’ve had similar results with saw mills, they pay so low by the time I load it up, drop it, and wait on a check, I’d rather just make firewood out of it. Cant wait to see your mill in action!
I’d be really frustrated as a logger. I’m sure since they provide material frequently they get treated a little better (maybe)? But either way, the sawmills are definitely getting the bigger piece of the pie in my opinion.
@@McKameyFarms no doubt, if that huge log is only worth 3-500$ that’s alot of work and equipment for a logger to make any money, plus the chunk of money to the land owner.
Great video and good info. I have a woodland mills and it’s a fun little mill. I just use it for my own use but nice to know there is some money to be made if you do the work. Thanks
@@billerwin3772Thank you! Yes, it seems there’s money to be made if you have the demand for it. I just got a comment from a local guy to me that is getting $2.75/bf-8’ L and $3/bf-10’ L red oak that’s green right off the mill 👍🏻
@@McKameyFarms Not a bad price and no waiting for a kiln.
Wishing you luck working on getting to 1k
Thank you Stan! I appreciate everyone’s support. Very grateful
I’ve being thinking of the hobby side of it, maybe this year, good job 👍,🪵🔥🚜🏰🇨🇦🇱🇷
I’m really lookin forward to it Len. Just the thought of turning raw logs into usable lumber makes me feel that I’ll have a sense of accomplishment. Have a great week 🔥🪵🪓
Good video Brandon. You and I being in the same town, I get $2.75/bdft for 8' red oak, $3/bdft for anything longer. Green straight off my sawmill. I sold all the lumber from those red oaks I got from you that time for that price. So you can feel confident that it'll bring that price.
Thanks Buddy! I appreciate you commenting and confirming that I was in the ball park anyway 😊 Those chestnut oak slabs you just milled were very nice!! Some good looking stuff 👌🏻Hope you and the family are doing good.
Nice!
Appreciate you watching and commenting 👍🏻 Take care
Hi,
Your thought processes contemplating what you might do with your logs was interesting. As you've found out, the more people involved in a business, the higher the cost, for some reason, everyone wants a profit on their time and equipment! It might be helpful to talk more with some of the folks in your area that have small scale lumber making mills, see if they think they're in a good business which might better help you decide whether the investment cost, your time requirements, etc., is something you really want to get involved in?
I didn’t really know what the pricing was in lumber till I started researching it and then I quickly realized that the mills were really getting a big part of the pie! At least from a small contributor. They might pay more for outfits that bring them truckloads of logs? Like you said, the more hands that touch it, the thinner the margin. I appreciate you watching and commenting David
I'm on the hobby side of milling. Because of the pandemic lumber prices, I decided to buy a Alaskan sawmill. It's more for personal use at this point in time. Can't do woodworking without wood.
Covid definitely sent wood prices through the roof! I’ve wanted to build a sawmill for the last 6-7 years and this past fall, I finally pulled the trigger and started on it. I’m looking forward to putting it to use soon hopefully 🤞🏻 you’re right, got to have wood to do woodworking 😊
Hey buddy still working with wood 🪵 on your channel. Remember STICK on the ICE 🧊, SAW in the WOOD 🪵 and RUBBER on the ROAD . 😊
Appreciate it buddy 👍🏻🪵
Better build yourself another building to start stock piling the lumber you make. Finish the mill and get to work and start stacking the cash! Good stuff.
Boy isn’t that the truth! There’s never enough covered space. Ever! I think that’s definitely the key if I plan on selling the lumber (stacked good and flat and dry)
Have a good week, I appreciate ya
I have just found your channel and it starts with a weather report. Who care about the weather when you're attracted to the video by the title, you might just as well tell me what you had for breakfast.
I hope it gets better.
You tell about your area, where is it you are located?
Well, I have to say weather is a big part of life for farming and for us that do work outside, especially this time of year with crops it’s a pretty important thing. I’m in East TN
Around here red oak brings 40 cents a bf. So it would be a 50.00 log maybe or 300 for the cord if you split and sold. Most that buy logs here for fire wood production just buy saw mill logs since it's worth it when delivered to your yard
You did get a lesson on how the sawmills rob the logger. It's not because the sawmill has more money invested. They don't have close to the dollar invested in it as the logger does
That’s crazy! I’d say everyone would just cut logs for firewood at that cost. Like i mentioned in the video, people with small sawmills around me are charging .50-$1.00/bf just to saw folks logs for them.
@@McKameyFarms they charge close to that here to saw for people. I don't just 50 a hour since have almost nothing into milling it up. What a gallon of gas and resharpen a blade. If I hit metal they do but a blade. Right now mills give 40 cents for oak and 75 for red cedar. No walnut market close so they don't want generally. The 75 cents on cedar puts a 10 inch 8 foot log at about 25.00 then they sell at 4.00 bf. Pretty simple on who gets srewd. Land owner get a percentage then gass oil equipment and hauling. Logger might bring home 20 cents bf while mill passes 3.00
They are worth what someone will pay
You’re exactly right! I think that$3.50/bf is a little high (of course that is kiln dried) but I definitely feel getting $2/bf out of them green is definitely very achievable
I think your forgetting about the premium you can charge for custom length beams
Those beams are definitely worth a premium. These logs were too heavy for me to handle with my equipment, but I do have some smaller diameter Red Oaks I cut at 16’9” to make 16’ beams with 👌🏻
I appreciate you watching and commenting
Buddy look 👀 for Benjamin. Start grown WESTERN RED CEDAR now your into GOLD field in the logging business 🧑💼. 😊 BC Canada 🇨🇦 is 331 billion just in Western Red Cedar market.
Western cedar is definitely the cash cow!
Here my 2 cent with a grain of salt . Rough off the mill, with a lot of red oak I take $1 board / foot 🦶 still more them firewood 🪵 go to give you buddy . Still over $$$$ for that log . Now if it white oak it’s the best for whiskey 🥃 and wine 🍷 barrel premium money per / log 🪵. Hardwood easier on bandsaw mill them soft wood 🪵 buddy for cutting. Now you make your price start high because we know people like to try to knock down your price . For example start at $3 board foot 🦶 you know if drop to $2 for board foot 🦶 your still ahead in Benjamin. TAKE CARE stay with the bandsaw mill for making Benjamin.
I appreciate the comment Leonard. I would definitely feel like $2/bf is what these are worth in my area for rough cut green red oak 👍🏻 and I’m okay with that. Thats still a much higher profit margins than just selling the log. I sure do wish I had some logs this size in White Oak 🤩💰