Biological Men Should Not Compete in Women's Sports (Part 3) | Change My Mind
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2022
- In this edition of Change My Mind, Steven Crowder heads to the University of North Texas (aka the Harvard of Denton County) to see what students think about biological males competing in women's sports. In the next installment of this contentious issue, Crowder sits down with someone who identifies as a "white male" and someone who identifies as a "f***ing idiot." Find out who attempted the best arguments.
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Who do you think made a better argument in this episode of Change My Mind & why?
These are infuriating. How can you change something that one doesn't have to begin with?
Crowder stated facts based in science and reality. I fear for the youth of today.
Today's guy had a man bun. Says it all
That guy should have stopped at " I don't think".
I think its obvious these guys have never played a sport in their life. They cannot argue women are not as strong as men. They dont really believe the garbage they speak, it's just the "cool" thing to do. They are Beta males and are followers, good job Crowder
"Biological men should not compete in women's sports."
The fact that this is even being argued about is astounding to me
West is declining :(
It's only getting worse and worse.
IKR??
It only gets worse from here. The Republicans are completely ineffectual. It's going to take regular people running for office to keep our society from falling into a hellscape
It is astonishing how such a simple truth has been utterly smashed and disregarded.
Women athletes want to win just as much as any male athlete.
Many have inferred that women should just enjoy participating and shouldn't concern themselves with such ridiculous ideas like winning. What utter tosh!
Women's sport can only be fair and meaningful if that 'fairness' is clearly understood and respected.
These debaters have dispensed with the ideas of fairness and competitiveness altogether.
The only people that say “sports aren’t about winning” are people that don’t know anything about sports..
Seriously. Or competition. I never did sports. But I competed in academic competition. Like Math team. Idk if that still exists. It's about winning always. See who is the best at whatever. I mean, even spelling bees! Have they never seen a sports/competition movie??
sports is literally about one thing and its winning lol
Ah yes, the floor isn't made of floor
“It should be about moving your arms in the water” ..you can do that. In any body of water. Outside of a competition.
I believe whole heartedly that this mess our society is in started with the participation trophy mentality.
Imagine telling a schizophrenic that they have lost touch with reality, and being labeled as schizophobic.
💯💯💯
Do I need to?
@@BadGamesHere To what?
@@epicbehaviorimagine it
I imagined it, what now? Is there a step 2? Does step 2 involve a toaster?
If a young adult is dealing with anorexia and tells others that they think they are fat, we don't affirm that and offer liposuction and gastric bypass surgery. Treating dysphoria with affirmation was never acceptable. What has changed?
This is actually terrifying. “I’m a white male so I can’t have an opinion” is an extremely slippery slope for kids coming out of college
It is so toxic, imagine 5 years from now, what will come out of their mouths then? If this happened in a few years
Mission Accomplished.
-Klaus Schwab
It’s racist
Had this happen more than once when conversing with former friends who are branch covidian.
Reminds me of a vid i saw of white guilters literally kissing a blaxk supremacists boots. It genuinely came as close to making me want to murder someone as watchinf pedos on tcap
As a black man, I feel bad for that last guy. He doesn't even realize he's been castrated.
He proudly states he has nothing valuable to say because of his race. Yet he called Crowder he is racist for pointing out general statistics.
The generation below me is in serious trouble.
Why does it matter if you are black
@@omensoffate The guy said he doesn't think his opinion as a white man matters. Just saying black people don't agree with that logic.
1: Are you really a child of Satan?
2: He's well aware of his castration
@@omensoffate …..keep up.
@@omensoffate really the white guy said his opinion doesnt matter as a wyite person what doesnt race have to do with this lol
I am completely astounded by the stupidity of people in our society.
its mind blowing
we need 5 categories, Bio Men, Bio Women, Trans Men, Trans Women, and Unlimited, with Unlimited being open to anybody doing whatever performance enhancers they want, max out and see who's REALLY the best in any given event.
Everyone would just watch the performance enhancer’s category! Why would you want to watch someone deadlift 800lbs compared to the guy who is lifting 1200lbs?
I am not saying it’s a bad idea but it would end all natural sportsmen and sportswomen careers!
That last category is the best idea ever, and I wouldwatch it every year
@@ProfessorPrel it already exists
"I don't have a solution I am a white male"
Dear God how much longer must we endure
This, and then "you're racist because you think most top athletes (in a given sport) are black". This guy is clearly a racist, just towards his own kind. If there is *reverse racism* that's what it is; hating yourself.
"Why are we still here...just to suffer?"
@@sensuscommunis2526 and by his same logic, saying that males are stronger than females is sexist, another ridiculous way of thinking
With that mentality he/she should just end they self
If I heard my son talk like that I’d slap the shit outta him and pull him from that school. Cut off every single dime!
I love watching these people twist themselves into knots attempting to justify their nonsense.
Yes it's hilarious. Also sad to see where these peoples minds are.
It's quite easy to justify it. Equality.
Men and women are equal now.
I predict that someone would reply equality =/= equal rights
They dont have facts or real reason its all emotional
simping so they lose it when the curtain it pulled back
on their blind SJW-ing.
The mental gymnastics is something they can’t even understand. These types will fight for any cause of the week that culture puts into their brains.
@@chuckysmaria6466 equality =/= equal rights
It's nice to see someone who's prepared to have a conversation
I love how civil, professional and rationale that the speaker.
I am a final year medical student and brought this topic up with other medical students the other day. Not a single one of them voiced their opinion when I stated basic arguments against men competing in female sports. They have been scared into silence and it was incredibly disturbing to witness. I was told to change the subject and treated like my referencing of basic biology was akin to racism. I fear for the next generation, I really do.
I genuinely don't think this whole issue will be taken so seriously, especially in medical fields but if does we're all doomed.
@@mariabou7178 I didn’t either, but these guys I was talking to are going to be doctors in the next new months. I’d have expected them to have firmer, more logical viewpoints. I was made to feel like I was the radical one. I’m still taken aback when I think about it.
Yes, I think this is scary too.
@@zed3063 That's honestly terrifying. Its amazing how smart and stupid someone can be at the same time.
@@zed3063 This is a Western curse. Not really happening anywhere around the world. Thank God.
Everyone wants to focus on what everyone else “feels” except for the women who have this moment taken from them. 10 years ago, I would have NEVER thought this would be possible. Much less a subject for debate. Our country is literally destroying itself from the inside. We’re allowing our very foundation to be burned to the ground. This is insane!!
Women started this being allies for the gay agenda and bitching about equality . You reap what you sow.
@Tanner False. Tucker had one on the other day. We've been asking them for their insight bit the organizations are telling them to keep it hush hush or else they lose their spot. Their livelihood, the sport they've sacrificed their lives for, is being threatened from them over this in more ways than one, and they're barely adults being thrust onto a precipice that decides the history of sports. Can't blame them for keeping quiet, but claiming no one's asking how they feel is ignorance and literally not keeping tabs on the story.
@Tanner the women who lost their spot due to the fact that a biological male took it from them… yea. Most of these women have spent the majority of their lives training for that moment. Putting in hours and hours a day just to have a chance at an opportunity. An opportunity that could literally be taken from them because they’re physical biological differences can’t compete with a biological male.
I sit and think about how that 2nd place finisher must of felt, to know that if that "female" swimmer hadn't of been there they would of been 1st place. Imagine how she felt to know that everything was within reach and she would of earned all of those acolytes if our world was more of a sane place.
It's going to get worse because Crowder and other Conservatives keep saying "biologicial" males.
God bless your patience Steven!!!!!
This is just a reminder of how you are legally an adult at 18 but not necessarily a reasonable adult
What's most concerning is "I can't have opinion because I'm a white male." Imagine coming out of college thinking that. After paying tens of thousands of dollars and years of your life. How far we have fallen.
What a deluded pansy boy Hugh is. Wow.
This is a point that has been bothering me for years now. It's such a ridiculous catchall point that these SJWs can fall back on when their points are trash and they can't do anything but debate based on feelings.
You mean hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Higher Ed is bogus tbh
Do you know why that particular opinion is being pushed on white men?
As a woman, I really want to know what these people mean when they say that they "feel like a woman." I was born female and I can truly say that there is no distinct "feeling" of being a woman; it's really just a state of being. Sure, there was a transformation from girlhood to womanhood, where puberty was involved in that change, but there's not a day that goes by of me having an internal dialogue about feeling any specific way just because I'm a woman. I'm just a human who happens to be female...
exactly right. I am a man and could not tell you what it feels like to be a man, I just am.
Dislike for responsibility and accountability
It's exactly because it can't be quantified that they use it as an excuse. It's a "God of the gaps" argument, in a sense, but one they know to be bullshit as well.
From one woman to another 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
They're making a joke out of you women
Thank you for adding references into video. Great addition.
40:10
“ They should all be legal, LET THE GAMES BEGIN! “
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My jaw hit the ground when Jackson said “ I don’t have a solution because I’m a white male”? I thought college was to teach one critical thinking skills. I truly in my heart felt pain for this kid.
He said it was if his interpretation of "white males can't have an opinion" is "sweet, I don't have to give a shit. That's tomorrow's problem." Like white males now have a pass on contributing to society.
College is about collecting tuition and handing out useless degrees.
To make such a statement he seems to be excusing himself from having to exert the effort involved in critical thinking.
“I don’t know” has always been a valid response because no one is born knowing everything, but to refuse to put in the effort to find out is just refusing to use your brain and letting yourself stay dumb.
@@PeteMD well put good sir
Allowing a biological man beating up women in boxing and destroy their world records left and right without even trying is the most anti-women thing i've ever seen
left and right.... solid pun
@@chasecoursey1921 ches
Male privilege exists now, you can thank the left for that! I thought they were against that. Huh, they threw me for a loop.
These college students are so delusional..
They don’t even realize how unfair it is while speaking about fairness..
That’s how badly they wish to conform.
Pathetic. Miserable.
Inexcusable. I don’t like people who can’t even understand the simplicity of fixing this issue.
DONT LET TRANSGENDERS PLAY AGAINST WOMEN.
Until I see one transgender who acts like a male win against men. I really don’t understand the complexity of understanding this simple ass issue…
Yet somehow some women support it.
You can see the guy have to convince himself of his own argument several times in the discussion. Crazy this even has to happen
It’s called the backfire effect. You make an argument, realize it doesn’t make sense, get embarrassed, and then vigorously try to validate your argument for the sake of arguing rather than using any logic. (The real definition is not accepting evidence going against your beliefs but I prefer my definition)
This is a brilliant conversation x
it is actually pleasant..
2 guys who sit down and calmly debate... they don't agree but they are more than happy to present their points to eachother... and not shout scream or pout when they don't get their way....
Imagine being so detached from reality you think that sports is not about winning.
They think the Olympics is the same as 3rd grade soccer team.
Because that argument fits their narrative
He said himself he doesn’t watch sports. He clearly doesn’t compete in sports himself. So he is talking like it’s a game, like a local soccer game or something. In reality it’s peoples life work we are talking about, he doesn’t mean bad he’s just a bit out of touch in my opinion.
@@Richardson_mma But you have to put this into a bigger picture! Namely the feminist movement of "If men can do it, we can do it too". In a sense of just my and your opinion, I think OP and your opinion of just a bit of touch and it is about winning is 100 percent correct. What also real is the fact feminist demand borderless equal treatment. In this world, you can't just put things into perspective of your own opinion, it needs to be matched by the other gender's perspective demand, which in this case quite childish IMO, because apparently female wants equal with male, but at the same time demand that they are woman when they can't compete with the so called "fake woman"? The being this real woman competed so far is not even "real man" since this "fake woman" already undergoes alteration!
These are the ppl who couldn't accel or just sucked at sports
I love it when people say I am "not educated on this topic" but have no problem spitting out their BS for 30 minutes.
That’s one of the reasons why this segment is awesome. Seeing people work through an issue they have an opinion on but little knowledge is fascinating.
Actually I'll take "not educated" to be a positive these days, since as it turns out, when the education itself just consists of ideological brainwashing on nebulous sociological concepts rather than practical in-the-field study, it's probably better to know NOTHING than less than nothing.
Also all of these people have also never played a sport or done anything physical in their entire lives. I've never seen someone who's even went to the gym a few times claim that men and women are biologically equal. All of the dudes who claim so are fat soyboy types who, to be fair, are probably about as strong as the avg woman so maybe that's how they come to their conclusions.
Why do you have to be formally educated on a topic to have an opinion? Why announce that ?
that's the majority of people though. Even if we aren't educated on a topic. We have core opinions and thoughts on the topic regardless. And it's good for this segment, to sit down with more open minded people, that can shift through their opinions and work through it to gain a better formulated opinion as facts are introduced.
Imagine being the parents of a little girl who worked hard in her sport, training, sacrificing time and other activities to only focus on the success of the sport to take her to college and participate and be known as one of the best of her sport, to only be beating by a biological male who identifies as a woman who entered the same sport because they aka he can't have record setting status playing the sport within his group.
I’ve watched a lot of these… the Kat Williams “bent back paper clips” reference genuinely made me laugh out out 🤣🤣
As a female athlete who played many sports ... some contact and some non-contact ... I know first hand that it is dangerous to let this continue. And the fact that female safety is being casted aside shocks me the most. Not to mention the stolen opportunities. We have come so far in female sports to take this enormous step back is disappointing. Feelings don’t change biology. It’s a unfair advantage period!
Exactly.
Facts. That swimmer recently really enrages me he was poor in the men’s transitions to the woman’s and he’s a winner? So stupid
Boundaries Must Exist. Bible
The unfair part is that every single one of the female athletes being knocked off the podium by a trans female (biological male) athlete began their career in athletics with the assumption that they would only ever compete against biological females.
How many female athletes would pursue a career in athletics knowing that any middling male athlete could simply switch divisions (after failing to be competitive in the male division) and beat them without much effort? Answer: not many.
Bro where all the feminists at, they should be outraged at the fact that women will no longer be able to safely compete in sports.
It’s so sad how terrified Jackson was to say the wrong thing. You can clearly see how carefully he tries to be “politically correct”.
I know and it's kind of shitty beacuse behind all the bullshit I bet he probably has a logical opinion and probably not a bad person seemed like a cool dude just to worried about saying the wrong thing
Yup. He knew the repercussions from his “tribe” would been extreme…
its because he has low testosterone ... schools have destroyed young adults and they don't even realize it
He is so scared of his white male privilege
His nit picking was so petty and useless.
It is so interested that you are so right and the guy constantly comes back to hes first standpoint. So interested.
The end of the first conversation is exactly what should happen in a conversation/debate on a topic that typically carries a lot of emotion…2 people who don’t have that much common ground having a civil chat and parting company with no hard feelings.
For those that argue sports is not just about winning and the competition, then why don't trans athletes go swim laps in a rec pool or cycle cross country by themselves?
This comment deserves all the likes!!!!!!
I keep seeing the belief that purpose of sports for serious athletes are the same as the purpose of sports for very small children (fun, team building, basic physical and mental development)
When did the crazy childless, unmarried, feminist kindergarten teachers take over the freaking world?
Lol 😂😂😂😂🔥
Right, and I’m sure this has been mentioned, but there really should be the same amount of biological women transitioning to being a man, that go and play men’s sports.
If I were to give the benefit of the doubt of “people just wanting to be themselves” in sport, there wouldn’t be more biological men going to play women’s sports than the other way around. Would there?
It doesn’t seem honest. Like you said, it almost seems like people who just want to go win… achieve glory, etc.
@@caseyjudson1062 there might be but we don't hear about because they don't win. Which shows how there is a difference between men and women.
Plain and simple, you can't call it "women's sports" if men are involved.
Yes they can.
They can't define the word woman. 🤣🤣🤣
@@christine3938 If they cannot be defined, then they do not exist. Therefore we can go back to calling everything man (manhole cover, mankind, etc). Do a Change my Mind on that and watch the SJW heads explode. They cannot have it both ways.
@@christine3938
Yes you can, if your a woman. That simple
I'm a woman. Simple
@@christine3938 yea our freaking newest Supreme Court rep can’t tell us what a woman is😅. We are living in trying trying times
It must be miserable to not be able to think how you want
Yesss...literally!🙌🏽 It's no wonder the world is currently full of miserable humans.💔 We live in an overly controlled and conditioned environment that is being dominated by small (but loud) groups of narcissistic people who display all the typical behaviours that cult leaders possess.
The intro said it all 😂
Insane how people just live their lives in blatant arrogance
Even worse that these people have combined their arrogance with ignorance. That's the most deadly combination.
ignorance?
Insane how people just live their lives in blatant IGNORANCE!... there fixed it for ya....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Arrogance implies they know better...
And in blatant ignorance
Second kid claiming it’s “debatable” that men and women are different and everyone is “equal” is utter lunacy.
He's hard to listen to
@@Panda41433 i sadly switched off. words were spoken but nothing was said.
Not sure that these two were even men, biologically . . .
We're all only equal in terms of lifeforms, we're all humans but thats it. We're different in in biology.
@@fletcherhamilton3177 they’re not men. Just males with their virtue signaling opinion in hopes that a 4/10 will sleep with them for their ‘brave & heroic’ antics.
I wish someone would've told me, my teammates, and our coaches, "sports aren't just about winning" back when I played football. The losses were always so devastating... i didn't know that was supposed to matter at all... weird that we even kept score, then.
Regardless of you side of the conversation.... This guy actually debated. Didn't get into his emotions and just discussed the issues. Hats off to ya
*dude that has never competed in sport ever in his life:* “sport isn’t all about winning”
Yes, yes it is
Right?? Lol, some of these people twist their words and they are repeating themselves that get them no where.
They seem to lump competitive sport in as all sport which can be used for fun. Competing is literally about winning.
You could make the argument that at some point it becomes more about the payday than it does about the aspect of the sport or the desire to win. I'd wager a lot of pro-sports athletes are in it for the money and that winning is a close second for them if not 3rd on their list.
@@charleshill1906 oh yeah totally! I forgot about the money and the greed.
@@charleshill1906 winning is what gets them the money in most sports. Combat sports especially and almost all non team sports get paid by their place in the competition not just to turn up
“College privilege” is the luxury of never having to come up with real world solutions. This was one of the best things Steven said.
The level of arrogance they have without any real merit is insane... Even making excuses for if he gets fired for poor performance... Absolutely nothing is about accountability. Ughhh
They learn it from the Professors. In college right now, all the Professors do is complain, but they never offer a single solution. Do you want to know why? It's because the problems they have aren't real problems; you can't solve a problem you don't have.
Steven hit a huge point with that. I'm so glad you hit the point with that.
Indeed it is. an i love how the college kid is like "well it's not up to you (the employer)' about firing someone who fails at their job.
First he's ignoring many states are "at will" which means.. a boss could totally fire someone for arbitrary reasons.
But as I have seen how some companies are.. He's also hiding behind the fact that most companies (unless severely egregious and damaging to the company.. which security of information systems is that so this really doesn't equate for him as Crowder was stating) have a three strike you're out. Some companies are so desperate they will extend that to 30 strikes as they just need the body there to monitor a situation. Those kinds of companies are horrible and definitely don't care about their employees *cough* 7-11 and Speedway *cough* let alone the customers they have.
but don´t start a college students discrimination pls, not everyone is like that. I´m a very humble student for example :)
The first kid is the poster child of "tell me what to say and think please, professor."
2:05 that burp though!
The fact that, there are kids these days that refuse to give their opinion because they think they don't have the right to, is ridiculous.
It's not ridiculous. It's terrifying.
My daughter is in a wonderful private Christian school, one I graduated from, and she's lucky to have to freedom to speak her mind. However, on social media, she's completely stifled, and she's starting to understand how horrifying it is.
Well they're not biologists! 😉
It's because we have built our educational system around the notion that "you repeat what I tell you" rather than "you think for yourself and find your own answers"
@@Robert-xn3dc Agreed. I'd bet we all had experiences with those teachers. My 2nd grade history book had Chrstopher Colombus "discovering America" in the front of the book and Amerigo Vespucci doing the same in the back of the book. When someone asked our teacher about it she snapped at him for interrupting and assigned us more homework. She never answered his question.
I used to have joking conversations with my pals 15 years ago about becoming a woman in order to get into and dominate professional sports, and now we’re here, and now it’s 100% not a joke. Wow.
Twilight zone
Juwanna man was prophecy
@@JamalW239 haha. Holy crap! I forgot about that movie! LadyBug (with Rodney Dangerfield) is another one (but it was teenagers playing ⚽)
So you are going to get into woman's sports?
You started it! Fired!!! 😂
The fact we’re even having this conversation is wild. 😂
12:06 Well I totally agree with JC's point there,definitely has merit!! Have to say that I've watched many debates on this topic yet not once have I heard someone say that.
Which is why I love to watch & Respect JC from time to time. He's always blunt & to the point regardless of how others may feel. Which is how a properly functioning Debate or conversation should go.
Too many are afraid to say what they feel cause they can never seem to find the right words to do so without hurting someone's feelings or offending.
So most just chose to 'Stay out of it' which only lets these issues fester & grow. Nope it's time for people to put on their big boy/girl pants and realize that this is how a properly functioning Democracy works.
It's not easy. Do we think it was easy for the 13 colonies to ban the red coats & form their own country? No it took 'Generations' of heated debate & conversation between individuals that had dramatically different views,to manage a way to come to some sort of an agreement for the betterment of the colonies as a whole!!!
The way these people can say "If you're a woman with a penis" with a straight face and no hint of irony just boggles my mind.
If they can get you to believe absurdities they can get you to commit atrocities.
Love this comment, Matt.
They're saying what they think they're supposed to be saying.
This is what modern Western education looks like. Honestly our society is a joke.
This comment. 👍🏾
I thought the she with a beard was talking about women that get a transition like they did, so a faux penis.
Crowder: explains over 13 scientific facts
Response: "the problem is we just don't know enough"
Yeah that one had me laughing. I mean maybe try listening when someone is giving you information. That guy was all I’m not allowed to have an opinion, so um how bout in the future people become chemically altered so that everyone can compete together… because that’s the answer.
30 years from now, shocker the kid was right. 😳
You gotta be real tho that guy was just having a discussion even tho he didn’t have all the proof to back him up crowder kept interrupting him And it felt like he didn’t show him a lot of respect I wish crowder done this more with stupid feminists that don’t know how to shut up instead of that guy
Crowder: 13 scientific facts and truths
Response: uhh... I don't know, what is sports, oh let me stick my nose where it doesn't belong... let me digress the debate and call you a hateful person therefore I am right.
@@ultamata9516 The guy was very wrong...but crowder was rude and didn't let him elaborate too much.
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It confuses me that when most people are confronted with new information that they currently don't know, instead of saying "I don't know", or "I'm not aware", they jump to "why are you attacking me?"
The bass at 2:05 😂😂😂
The obsession with racism is exhausting. The mere fact that you can’t point out obvious differences in human beings without fear of being “racist” is ridiculous.
It's even more ridiculous when these very same people project it upon everyone else. It truly is like dealing with mental asylum inmates - no awareness or responsibility for how they behave.
All by design
@Macysond or maybe using these differences to pint out that there ARE differences ? You know , the same way we classify planets , stars , objects , vegetables , animals , etc ? Yes son , despite what your super virtuous activist professor told you in gender class... most people in this world ain't thinking about "muh superiority" from the moment they wake up. Shocking , i know
@Macysond pointing out differences does not mean the person is bigoted.
@Macysond saying that black people are better at sports than white people is an expression of white superiority? Do you know the definition of the word superiority?
The last guy was a perfect example of everything that is wrong with society today.
Agreed; he's been stripped of his ability to make important decisions and has 0 confidence in his own abilities. To make it even _worse_ is that the mental tools he needs to gain it in the future have been gutted by a false sense of guilt because of _what_ he is rather than _who_ he is.
What's even worse than all that is his future potential employers may see this video. Would _you_ hire someone to safeguard your network who has no mental fortitude whatsoever? I sure as hell wouldn't.
@@evilblackcat6357 Unless his future employer turns out to be just as much of a drip as he is....which given the rate at which this kind of stupidity is spreading is probably a distinct possibility.
You could practically have titled his section "millennial meets gen z" - communication becomes complicated when everything is relative.
@@lyntallon6325 Who do you think taught gen Z all this crap? Don’t make this black and white .
Is it just me or was anyone else completely baffled as to what point he was trying to make!? Everything he is saying is totally nonsensical and truly confusing 🤔
People say: "we'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
I ask: "what happens when you get there, and the bridge is on fire."
22:06 The Office vibes I love it 😂
As a biological female athlete who now coaches both males and females this movement for a minority group is killing women’s sports. Talk to any of my athlete’s and they all agree that we should stay in our own lane i.e biological males against biological males and biological females against biological females. To even be having this conversation is bizarre to me. Common sense has literally gone out the window.
Yes , my brother is a former athlete and he had a lit of female friends ( same sport) they practiced together all the time , he couches girls basketball his daughter's team . He agrees with you . When i say practice i mean he and couple of other guys would play practice games to help them before a competition,
Oh je has couched them from 10 to under 15 currently,
The reason why this is an issue is because right wing commentators like Steven Crowder make it an issue, and then create battle lines for you to get mad at and then somehow turn it into Republican policy.
Theres nothing wrong with accepting your biology. Sure change your gender. 'ThEy'Re SePerAte'. So why is it so difficult.
ITS THE MEDIAS FAULT
The second kid really said: " I don't know, the news changes everyday " as if it's his morning ritual to turn on CNN to see what narrative he should be following that particular day. 🤦 What a time to be alive.
It's like "What can I pretend to care about today?"
No kidding, the mentally I’ll are bullying their way into total dominance.
Follow the current thing !
@@okay8136 I've never heard this phrase. What is a "George *Floyd conservative"? Is it conservatives that believe the cops were in the wrong in that case? Or is it about something else?
Right? Way to admit you’re a shill for whatever legacy media tells you to.
A beautiful conversation
There was a moment in Stevens eyes w the 2nd college student, where he gazes at the guy longingly w helplessness and you can almost for a second *feel* his defeat, and I don't mean as though he lost the debate, but like he's now becoming acutely aware that it's indefinite we're going to lose our future.... everything we once knew and stood for is fading away.... like that part in the Giver where they have the ceremony of remembrance and everyone chants the 'released' individual's name, saying it softer and softer each time until the name faded away and became nothing more than just an echo in the breeze.
Love when a non-athlete tries to explain what a sports goal ultimately is. When he said "its not about winning" I knew he was full of it.
“It’s not about winning it should be about the competition” 😂😂😂😂
Exactly. Lol
On some level they aren't wrong. It's not physical but I personally was part of an esports division for many years of my life. And 90% of what drove me was competition, and the drive to be better, not be better than others but be better to myself, but it was all in service to the goal of winning. So in a way it is about winning. But it's also about a lot of surrounding things that help you win.
@@gagekellstrom3978 Yyeah but you still wouldn't want one of your opponents to have like -30% buff in all the most important skills.
@@gagekellstrom3978 I can tell you playing college sports, it really sucks losing in every way
I like how Stephen actually makes these kids struggles through their own points out loud. They are thinking about it for the first time actually but they haven't realized it until this moment
Fact
a rare bit of intellectual conversation really shows how lacking these kids are in anything other than repeating platitudes
Steven*
True, it’s what their professors need to be doing
I made a very similar comment. These folks lives (thoughts and feelings) are unexamined.
That G1 jacket is on point Steven!
Science and objective reality won this discussion/debate. Good job Mr. Crowder.
That second guy is a prime example of the problem with our society. He’s petrified of saying anything that he believes would hurt someone’s feelings or get him labeled as a bigot, even if what he says is backed by facts and data.
Yep, he’s constantly walking around eggshells it’s painfully embarrassing
if you dont stand for something you stand for nothing. this guy will stand up for whatever is on snapchats, internet browser, title on the news of the week. every. single. week. this guys view can be influenced. its pathetic.
He's not a man.. he's a neutered male
@@CB-rv2lj Lol this child actually used the excuse ‘bc I’m a white male’ to explain away why he couldn’t offer up any viable solutions hahahaha
Absolutely
“Sports aren’t about winning” sounds like something with a shelf full of participation awards would say.
That's like saying "working isn't about the paycheck." Professional sports is a job, if you're not winning, you'll be fired.
@Tobekang or now in College
Lmao
Now we have to have non competition events, un competition or dis competition or what? What's the point of a competition?
"something". LOL
That first student with the pony tail made an great effort❤
I was hoping this episode would be less than 3 min because no one in their right mind would argue that
"I'm not saying the statistics are racist, I'm saying your statement about the statistics is racist." Is THE most mind numbing thing I've ever heard.
I can't believe people actually talk like that I thought it was just twitter people
@@fahoodxx3205 you mean Twitter "people?"
the dude couldnt evem give a simple answer after that either, like whats the point of arguing this if your not going to explain what you find unpleasing about what he said like bro
It gave me a pain in my chest. I think I need one of Stephen's titanium rods.
“We knew that there was some black speed and power my friend” is the statement that the white boy perceived to be racist. Which, idk, that statement was in kind of poor taste on Crowder’s part lol.
But the white boy was too chicken to repeat it back to Crowder because he is a pussy and scared of getting “cancelled”. So it made his point irrelevant cause he has no spine lol.
There was opportunity to slightly get an edge on crowder for that comment and he failed completely because he’s scared to say anything. He spent a whole 30-40 minutes saying nothing and suggesting nothing and wasting everyone’s time.
Guy said to himself, “I’m going to sit down with Steven Crowder and argue my position that sports will change and eventually if a woman wants a fair shake she can undergo medical treatments”. College is making our country stupid as fuck.
Lol I know right? I was shaking my head at that thought.
Guy: "In 50 years time, women can just have surgery to be as good as men".
Steven: "Cool, then we can get rid of the sex divisions and just play sport, but until then, what do we do?"
Guy: "I dunno, I don't have the opinion for that..."
We need to do something now, not in 50 years time when a magical cure all MIGHT be available...
"I feel like we have to conform to the minority because science and technology will be so advance, that it wont matter in the future"
This kid's head is in the clouds. Someone, slap him into reality.
I really don’t know how Steven keeps it together. It’s like talking to my 4yo daughter about sports
59:12 lol see I like him because he makes so much sense, I swear.
I’ve been learning and binge watching this channel ima fan for sure
They have scared these young adults into being afraid to even acknowledge reality! That was excruciating to sit through.
They scared them of expressing their own opinions if they are white and/or males. It's all easy to make fun of them, but who's really to blame...?
Always remember that these shows highlight people of opposing opinions however, the majority of the crowd agrees with Crowder! We are not entirely lost.
It's how Marxism works
It can't allow people to be able to make there own choices and clear thoughts
So they make it so that reality is the enemy, and the only way to fight against it, is to ignore it.
It's why every time Marxism has been used, it always causes a collapse.
What really is interesting is the mental gymnastics they go through to try to make their point. Another case of but but my professor said!!
An hours worth of cringe ,& anxiety. These gentlepeople ( no quite men ) are stupid smart .
"I don't have a solution because I'm a white male" was the most racist thing said on this ep!
Wow. That's just...
How can someone live and think like that about himself? 🤷♂️
THANK YOU. Jesus. These people are SO oblivious to their own hypocrisy! I was shaking my head most of this episode.
2:05 that burp though
"I understand that" he in fact did not understand that.
“If you tolerate everything, you stand for nothing”
what an extraordinarily banal and vague quote.
@@clamchowderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr If you do NOT make a choice on which side to support you are NEUTRAL but you canNOT support both sides and say you support them EQUALLY theres a video on where was discussion about pro life or choice where dude said to he support both but in the end he actually supported choice.
@@unknownweirdo077 i dunno man, like every one is all freedom freedom freedom and then people be all acting free and stuff and then mf's panties get all twisted. like if you were all like are you pro life i'd be like yes i am for living, but it's all confusing and stuff cause pro life is just a euphemism for anti abortion/personal choice so its all confusing. like i dunno why you gotta be choosing sides all the time, like you could just mind your own business and let people be but i guess some people just wanna throw a fit about things that ultimately really don't effect them. but like i think it's a tactic for some people to be vague and confusing because actually they don't really know what they stand for themselves. i think there is like so much nuance and like grey area and people wanna be all black and white and just like follow what some other person thinks and stuff and like not really think for themselves.
@@clamchowderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr What happense if it does affect you in life and there is a grey area thats spoken about both this video and life or choice video. where if it hurts women to carry a child then yea abortion is ok because if you don't you tehnically kill both or more lives (mother's + amount of babies) inside mother but a lot of people do not do it because its necessery its because they want sexual liberation so they can sleep with lot of partners without having any responsibilites for child(ren) they have also abortion, god forbid, but could lead to woman not able to carry children anymore in case she did because CURRENTLY she does not have enough resources (money) to raise a child. Also even if both parents do not want child there is adoptation that leaves child choice to live, and other people who cannot have child adopt it.
Grey area for this video is making a third division for transgender people so biological female does not have any kind of disadvantages compared to biological male /transgender women. If you do not think to biological females has any disadvantages versus biological you should watch men vs women in sports. Sorry about writing in paragraphs hopefully this solves dilemma.
@@unknownweirdo077 hey thanks for your kind and thoughtful response. i really appreciate it. and although we probably don't necessarily agree on certain things politically or philosophically i can sense the humanity that you present. i suppose that mostly what i am getting at, to avoid specifics, is that there are people out there less compassionate than you or myself who may want to manipulate these sentiments to keep a certain group of people down. by diminishing the value of a certain group it becomes easier over generations to slip into a thought process that doesn't become ones own but that which is influenced by fear, misunderstanding or unwillingness to understand and greed, just to state a few. i dont doubt that some of the examples you presented may be true, however i hardly believe the reason people who reproduce and feel that mere access, let alone being criminalized, for a medically identified procedure that has so much nuance, is to use it frivolously. and even if that may be the case, to employ legislation making it illegal makes all our rights that much more delicate and up for debate by the governing body, who in my opinion, dont have our best interest in mind. for instance, i support and believe in the right to own firearms and i know that most people who have them dont commit violent acts of mass murder but of course the small percentage that do, trigger emotion and anger in those who may not understand the necessity of those tools. so essentially what im saying is that we learn to trust and respect each other in a way that recognizes our differences and similarities and that also allows for those differences to exist without jumping to knee jerk reactions that may or may not be just a regurgitation from an angry insecure person who has a large platform and following. peace and health to you.
"It shouldn't just be about trying to win." That's exactly what collegiate and professional sports are all about, kid.
Like this persons ever participated an any athletic activity in their life….😉
Its the old saying "if winning isn't important then why keep score".
If it isn't about trying to win, what's the point of sport? Sports are a competition. If it doesn't matter who wins, then it has no value besides being a hobby
@@chaserohwedder8852 it's not that he hasn't competed. It's more the case that he just doesn't care about the actual competition; just the feelings. Which is incorrect when they are competing for lots of money.
@@domskillet5744 exactly.
I love how there are people who claim they’re idiots that are actually the most well spoken, compared to people who claim they’re intelligent that refuse to even listen to other points of views!
I truly don’t know how crowder sits there and listens to these opposing arguments with a straight face. Some of the things they say has me laughing 😂
The last guy in the green shirt should be on a billboard as an advertisement as to why sending and paying for your children to attend any university is a cruel thing to do.
obviously intelligent and respectful buy got it wrong and doesn't have any capacity for seeing just how silly he sounds.
Granted, there are a few good universities left, but you really have to hunt for them. And parents out there, please don't make the huge mistake of assuming a university teaches values because it's labeled Catholic. Most of the Jesuit universities in the west should've been stripped of their Catholic designation years ago.
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@@zerkvoltago how the fuck did you pull intelligence out of this........ This kid is a muppet
I am in disbelief. This guy is nuts.
it’s honestly disgusting to hear the last guy, who appears intelligent and educated say he is not allowed to offer a solution because of his skin colour.
And what's worse is his arrogance in his ignorance! But what I got from him is to do nothing, let shit happen, and what will evolve will be the best outcome. Ha? He's living in 1st world problems!🤡
Let's see if he keeps that same energy when looking for a job bc unemployment is less of an issue for white males than for other people.
@@geoslabs7065 what does that have to do with him not feeling he is allowed to have an opinion because of his skin color?
@@invaderjaymz can Geo not have an opinion about his color then?
@@invaderjaymz well if he can't even speak on a topic bc he's a white male, than I wonder just how deeply that mentality effects his decision making. Ive never thought "this issue effects x people more than y people and bc I'm a y and not an x I can't even speak on it" and if I did feel that way I wonder how much I would let myself suffer for it...
Idk just to feel like your not even allowed to speak on something bc ur skin color I wonder how deeply that sentiment runs. Like if he was at a job interview and there was a black guy also waiting in the lobby to talk to the boss would he just leave bc he's stealing the job from the black guy in his mind? Also why can't he speak on something bc he's a white male when he was saying everyone can compete together in sports bc everyone is equal? Like how is everyone equal but he can't make a statement bc of something so trivial... Idk just trying to understand his mental and how he can contradict his own beliefs so frequently, it's just genuinely confusing to me. Unless he's just not being honest and only saying what he thinks he has to, to stay in favor of his social group, that would be one possible explanation of the mental loops and circles he ran in
Steve-o was being a sweetheart when he said “you’re not a moron”
Muscle attachment points can provide more mechanical advantage yielding more strength etc.
Imagine training as a woman your whole life for a sport that you genuinely take pride in... Only for a pair of balls to take the glory with significant less effort.
Men and woman are different - end of story. Humanity is truly falling.
Thats true. Trans men cant compete in men sports but trans women can.
@@thejtrax 🤡
The worst thing is , it that it WAS and IS the radical third wave feminists of the LGBTQ community, have championed and politically advocated for “ trans” LGBTQ special RIGHTS and politically protected RIGHTS..
What I’ve noticed is that these students are absolutely incapable of rational critical reasoning and lack the ability to problem solve and process information . They are only capable of simply parroting the far left racist, anti white, anti-woman LGBTQ trans talking points . They’re told WHAT to think, not taught HOW to think critically and rationally.
Addendum: This white soy boy “ Jackson” who knows absolutely NOTHING, is embarrassing; his parents must be appalled , especially if they’re paying for his expensive college indoctrination and LACK of education ; supposing of course, that they’re normal reasonable people and not indoctrinated into the eyes wide shut , woke cult as well.
Damn skippy!
I'm hungry. End of story. The news is on end of story. Meat is good. End of story.
disagreeing with and criticizing a group of people DOES NOT EQUAL HATING THEM.
It does if you are a blinkered leftist because that's how they think. All they do is project.
You're right, time for the JQ...
Funny how feminist who scream male patriarchy. Are the same ones letting me say they are women and take over women’s sport.
@@MatthiasOfEvangelismos No, not just not necessarily, but always: disagreement does not equal hatred.
Normalize this
Jackson needs to make a decision... very good recap of the discussion. Bravo
Steven Crowder please keep it up! u will help establish justice and also prevent more suicides raising ppl’s awareness of what is righteous, true and factual.
As a women (biological, can’t believe I have to say that) I am thankful to men like Steven, who are standing up for our rights. I really can’t thank you enough.. ❤️
Bruh you don't need to say biological. You're a woman and that's it, a female adult human... that's it
@@thesilentman. low iq
@@thesilentman. In the context of this video talking about transgender, I’d think you would have to say that
@@thesilentman. This video is an argument that talks about trans women and biological women so they probably specified for that reason.
But what about feminine men who identify as woman laugh
“Trust the science” …until it’s inconvenient for your political positions.
"I AM THE SCIENCE!!!"
"I dont know the data or facts, but i feel......" that is the center point to every argument
"There's more to life than biology" ....... 😳🤭
So r u saying Global warming is racist?
So true.....the audacity of any leftist to say, "trust the science" is just ludicrous
49:40 aged like milk…. Lmao “keep your pimp hand strong man”😂😂😂
"Was that a Lady Gaga reference?" When he said he was born this way just broke me
As a girl who has played semi-pro football/soccer, biological men shouldn't be partaking in women's sports. I appreciate Steven for defending and respecting the integrity of women's sports.
100%
Brittney Griner did and that man has an Adam’s apple. The only people who don’t see it are delusional.
They should create a Trans men and Trans women team. Women worked hard to make a women's national soccer team, it wasn't easy but they got there, Trans people can get there too 💪
What makes you think that trans women are biological men?
@@BhlackBishop I disagree. Not everyone gets to do everything. If by 'they' you mean the trans people get together, raise the capital and build out a league of their own, then all the power to them.....Us creating it for them? Not a chance!!!
Up here in Canada, the brainiacs have now added a 'non binary' category for biathlon
I was talking to a girl recently who had a bunch of anxiety issues and a constant need for validation. I asked her if she had been validated a lot as a child or if she grew up doing things for herself. She said she had always been told she was amazing and special by everyone around her and now that she’s an adult she doesn’t hear those things anymore. This “everyone gets a trophy” attitude is quite literally ruining future generations.
I’m going to key 🔑 every purple truck i see
How old was she?
That’s why I tell my kids you have to earn everything in life and if it’s free or given it isn’t worth shit. Not everything is a competition but if you don’t have standards for yourself you won’t ever be able to compete.
@J B fr answer the question johnathan
@@revoltncock Its nice to get a gift once in a while to give yourself a break, hard work brings the fullness though.
I already know ima like this next hour
The guy in the green sweatshirt is off his rocker
"There's a lot more to sports and a lot more to life than just winning" said every kid who was chosen last at recess games
The statement is true however, if winning didn't matter, then neither would any of those other things. It's the competition (either against yourself or others) that's the driving force in sports. You don't have to be the best but you do have to want to to some degree to get anything out of it.
Nah, some of us who were chosen not last and such saw it as a competition and not solely the victory. Or we were in it for the sheer fun of it and just happened to be good. It is true that not everything is about winning, it's more about the journey and process and where you wind up is a symptom.
Also, someone that is intentionally ignoring sponsorship and scholarships.
@@Undomaranel I don't get the point you're trying to make here.
I thought that was the most shocking thing he said. But then he turns around and says it's about the sport and the people who love the sport. Ummm they love winning and showing they're the best at the sport. That made no sense. He also said he never competed in sports, which is sure we all assumed.
This is where “everyone gets a trophy”, has gotten us.
You'll be singing a different tune when the NBA establishes new rules which require players to jump a rope being swung by two of their teammates while dribbling down the court. Yep... You'll be eating your own words when each basket will be counted as two points only after it is confirmed that the ball passed through a one-time-use net that was just knitted and hung by players who are sitting on the, "needle bench," and/or manning the game's tapestry-mounting ladders.
*Stay tuned for updates regarding several California universities that have already begun phasing the usage of scrapbooking skills into NCAA wrestling matches!
every child wins a prize...lol
Let's not the forget about the amount of famous rock artists and bands that never won a grammy award. Trophies are useless most of the time outside of competitions.
OMGGGGG IVE BEEN SAYING THIS ALL YEAR! This is the generation they started that with. Now their in college and we’re seeing the damage it does. I remember how mad parents were in the early 2000’s when they found out that their kids weren’t playing for points and that there wasn’t a winner and loser, there was only winners
@@zedsterCH The point is not the trophy. The point is there is a winner and there is a loser. This teaches children about life. Because in life you lose more times than you win. And you need to learn how to be respectful when you do lose and to handle it right and how to handle when you win with Grace. This fits into many other aspects of life not just competitions.
I credit Hugh with actually sitting, listening, and actually coming around on a couple of strong points Crowder made on biological men competing in women's sports.