00:40 Freeze the vid here and isn't that a great shot purely from an aesthetic perspective? The nice cold bluish white balance, the moutain, the trees, the blue sky with white clouds, and multiple F1 cars 320km/h going through a corner. I've see too many F1 onboards but this is one of prettiest shots among all.
Tbh this is the bus stop chicane that is like the middle child that everyone forgets, only lasted for 3 years from 2004-06 Provided more opportunities to overtake than the old old bus stop chicane but imo wasn’t as fun fast and daring as the original bus stop chicane Better than the current bus stop chicane though imo
@@dhkdlhdyodyoclydtkd96494to Provide space for the new pit lane and to create a “better” overtaking opportunity but mostly the first reason Bus Stop and La Source was changed in 2007 as part of the renovation works with bus stop moved backwards and La Source forwards
@@dhkdlhdyodyoclydtkd96494 Spa had renovations works to build a new bigger pit lane on the main straight so as a result Bus stop was pushed backwards and La Source was moved forwards to create more space Then the awkward design we got was to promote overtaking I believe Tilke designed the chicane I do miss the original bus stop chicane really tested the brave and daring and you had to be super committed
Never say never mate, there are talks of getting this sound back, all is betting hope into those bio fuels, if they truly reach net carbon zero, there's no reason to keep the turbo which is what kills the engine noise, and they would have to bring back at least a V8 natural aspirated. They will still keep the battery engine, but the turbos could go bye bye.
@@espiao7343 yes of course, but right now what's hurting the sound are 3 things, The Turbo mainly, the engine block being a V6, and the MGU H. Luckily the MGU-H is being removed from 2026 onwards, that will help the sound. But we need a bigger engine to reach higher RPMs to have a screaming sound. I'm hopeful they at least bring back the V8, ditch the turbo and keep it a Natural Aspirated hybrid. The engines we have today are way too complicated, expensive and can't even apply the technology to road cars, which was the excuse to make them smaller and to reduce cost and they thought all these components were gonna be adapted to sports cars, that back fired massively, none of the Constructor teams that sell cars have these crap engines. They still use big V8, V10 and V12, just some add a battery engine to give the vehicle AWD, like the V10 N/A Aston Martin Valkyrie.
"awww" was my reaction when i saw that final clip. and you know it's not like a "haha peace loser" it's just a friendly "bye-bye have a good one mate". you love to see it.
@@hachiko2692Just because the RB20 was untouchable in the early phases of the season. If you can count only the last 8 races, he managed to score just 15 points over Hamilton and Piastri
It is well known that Schumacher suffered from a strange blindness that prevented him from seeing Montoya's car during the entire 2004 season, even when he was right next to him. That is why he cannot defend his position.
Spa used to be basically a street circuit look at how close the barriers are in 2004!! Also notice how the outside of blanchimont is basically a ramp if you go wide...
@@lilibordei721 it was in the stage of where it stopped being a public road in 2001ish but before major renovations in 06/07 The renovations in 06/07 really gave Spa a more permanent track feel in the run from Stavelot to Les Combes
Max and JP really feel the same in some ways- like they are both drivers that don’t sugarcoat what they say and really could care less how you react to what they said. They are aggressive when battling someone too.
When I first saw Max I thought he would end up as a Montoya. Good that he gradually improved throughout and stayed level headed when he needed to be. I think Max has more raw pace than Montoya similarities apart.
The wave! Haha I would love to know the personal dynamics behind that. I'm guessing just friendship, respect and joy but ya a little more detail would be cool
@@AyushMo I'd say there wasn't much chance to begin with because of differences between the cars. So drivers choose not to defend and save their tires for another battle. Then there is just the question of how to let the other driver pass. Alonso gave max the inside line and max thanked him. Just my take.
Excellent videos and very insightful content. I like how you leave enough time for everyone to read your comments before continuing the video as well. Keep up the great work! THIS is the kind of YT content F1 should be about, not fake headlines to generate clicks with 1000 different loud mouths.
@@MyRealName yeah its sad. They really need to figure out how to reduce dirty air or its effects, a track like Spa has so many opportunities for wheel to wheel battles.
Disagree, it made the fight for the win more unpredictable and there were longer fights in general. In previous years the cars just sailed past eachother without much resistance as the run up to Le Combes had a longer DRS straight.
So sad that Montoya left F1. Who knows what moments he could have provided. Crossing the line backwards in German quali, like Senna in France for example.
@@Klont123 Possible. And/or the thing Lando and Carlos had going with all the waving. Alonso/Verstappen is nearly the same because they spend time together and share the same interests (racing, racing and racing).
Somehow, I failed to notice the little wave on Kemmel straight, although I don't recall that pass getting shown in the T-cam view on the world feed coverage. On a side note, even though less than two weeks have passed since the most recent race, it already feels like something that happened forever ago due to the summer break.
Okay, I love your vids but here's a thing: At 1:12 you use "of cause" when it should be "of course". You have done this in multiple videos, that's why I have noticed Keep up the great work
I feel max kinda wishes the AM kept on an upward trajectory, at the start of last year it felt like we might get to see those two battle and instead their terrible upgrade path robbed us of that
You don't take the inside line at the chicane. Not defending would be keeping the racingline and let Max pass on the inside. Drivers are not compromising there raceline to favour somebody.
@@rick1901 ........ and pick up marbles from the dirty side of the track....... certainly in a high braking zone , like the chicane.......BS. ALO did in on the straight.
To those of you sayinng alonso defends everyone but verstappen, in this situation his car was far worse and also verstappen was on his bumper already at the start of the straight with drs, there was nothing alonso could do.
He didn’t wave, he apologised. For what. I don’t know. He didn’t apologised to Hamilton when he drove into him, like madman. Crashtappen one day, Crashtappen everyday.
The Best Driver in Formula One. Sad for him, that he wasn't born in the United Kingdom, so he has to deal with being discredited and does not get praised enough.
Max gets plenty of praise, it’s like people seek out the few who might critique him from time to time and use that as confirmation bias to think he doesn’t get any praise
It's not even that, it's the fact that he beat LH which happens to have the most toxic fanbase. Not surprising, considering all the woke BS from him personally. A certain type of fans just gang up naturally around people like that and you get toxic behavior towards anyone who isn't "one of them".
Looks like Albon was smart enough to know he wasn't racing Verstappen and tried to prevent losing time to other drivers behind by battling too hard. This was basically the same move that lead to Verstappen crashing into Hamilton at Monza T1/2 in 21'.
@@Eric-rf1isalbon could have easily crowded verstappen to the left after the apex but it would ruin both of their lines so it’s a much smarter play to let verstappen go and get his drs for the next 1/3 of a lap
@@chris_b44 Yeh, that's what you think. An F1 friver however, would stay left, on the racing line to let another driver by, staying on the racing line, NOT picking up rubbish........but ok, if YOU know better...🤣🤣
2004: Juan Pablo Montoya -> Michael Schumacher 2022: Esteban Ocon -> Daniel Ricciardo & Nicholas Latifi 2024: Max Verstappen -> Alexander Albon No Fears At The Bus Stop Chicane 🚏🚌🚍🔥💪⚡ #2004BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #2004Nostalgia #V10sNostalgia #2022BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #2022Nostalgia #2024BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #CircuitDeSpaFrancorchamps🇧🇪 #SpaFrancorchamps🇧🇪 #Francorchamps🇧🇪 #Stavelot🇧🇪 #Wallonia🇧🇪 30/07/2024 17:18 Or 05:18 PM At My Local Time.
I like all your videos but you did Ocon dirty this one. You are clearly biased towards liking Alonso, and it's sort of rude and not gentleman like to name drop Alonso when Ocon is the focus getting a double pass.
00:40 Freeze the vid here and isn't that a great shot purely from an aesthetic perspective? The nice cold bluish white balance, the moutain, the trees, the blue sky with white clouds, and multiple F1 cars 320km/h going through a corner. I've see too many F1 onboards but this is one of prettiest shots among all.
Fr. Looks like a painting.
Looks like a scene from Race Driver GRID games
@@PinkPlume That gorgeous white... it's "'bone" !
Now compare that to the awful street courses...
this is one of the most beautiful circuit when it's not raining haha
Max waving at Alonso is just so cool😂❤
03:30-03:36 Goodbye, Fernando! See you when you comeback. 👋🫶
norris waving daniel will forever be iconic
He was saying thanks for letting him by 😂
@@smolmin7386 2021 Monaco Grand Prix, isn't it?
They are brothers in their irrational hate for Lewis
Old bus stop schicane was superb!
Tbh this is the bus stop chicane that is like the middle child that everyone forgets, only lasted for 3 years from 2004-06
Provided more opportunities to overtake than the old old bus stop chicane but imo wasn’t as fun fast and daring as the original bus stop chicane
Better than the current bus stop chicane though imo
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 why'd they change it to the new one?
@@dhkdlhdyodyoclydtkd96494to Provide space for the new pit lane and to create a “better” overtaking opportunity but mostly the first reason Bus Stop and La Source was changed in 2007 as part of the renovation works with bus stop moved backwards and La Source forwards
@@dhkdlhdyodyoclydtkd96494 Spa had renovations works to build a new bigger pit lane on the main straight so as a result Bus stop was pushed backwards and La Source was moved forwards to create more space
Then the awkward design we got was to promote overtaking I believe Tilke designed the chicane
I do miss the original bus stop chicane really tested the brave and daring and you had to be super committed
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Never forget. From 2004 to 2005 & 2007 correction. ;) But old Bus Stop from 2002 and before was THE ORIGINAL!
Montoyas move was actually unreal
Second after Brazil as the best Schumacher-schooled moments
Tire wars baby !
Michelin vs Bridgestone differences made this happen.
@@Vamanos46 No
That 2004 sound man.. sad we will never get to witness, experience or hear the high pitched roar of those engines again
Never say never mate, there are talks of getting this sound back, all is betting hope into those bio fuels, if they truly reach net carbon zero, there's no reason to keep the turbo which is what kills the engine noise, and they would have to bring back at least a V8 natural aspirated. They will still keep the battery engine, but the turbos could go bye bye.
@@georgesantana3888give them more rpm with the turbos and the sound would be incredible! Need 20k rpm again!!
@@georgesantana3888it's not just the turbo. 80's turbo f1 cars sounded really good, not as good as a V10 but still much better than nowadays
@@rsxingaz that's gonna be hard on a V6
@@espiao7343 yes of course, but right now what's hurting the sound are 3 things, The Turbo mainly, the engine block being a V6, and the MGU H. Luckily the MGU-H is being removed from 2026 onwards, that will help the sound. But we need a bigger engine to reach higher RPMs to have a screaming sound. I'm hopeful they at least bring back the V8, ditch the turbo and keep it a Natural Aspirated hybrid. The engines we have today are way too complicated, expensive and can't even apply the technology to road cars, which was the excuse to make them smaller and to reduce cost and they thought all these components were gonna be adapted to sports cars, that back fired massively, none of the Constructor teams that sell cars have these crap engines. They still use big V8, V10 and V12, just some add a battery engine to give the vehicle AWD, like the V10 N/A Aston Martin Valkyrie.
"awww" was my reaction when i saw that final clip. and you know it's not like a "haha peace loser" it's just a friendly "bye-bye have a good one mate". you love to see it.
Exactly. Clearly the first word that comes in mind when thinking about Max in a racing context is "friendly".
@@BaguenaudeurIt does when the other driver involved is Alonso. They get along each other.
I thinks it’s a thanks for letting him by instead of defending the inside
Alonso went to the left and left him space, because he knew he doesn't stand a chance. Max waved to say thank you and that's it.
Max waving a thank you to Alonso for not going defensive is actually really cute
i think not only did he not defended the position he also gave him slipstream so that was the thanks
Aww you crybabies are just too funny
? @@bjrnchrstn
I can picture max being like hello Fernando, bye Fernando
bye bye driver 😂
forget bout dutch peasant, look how Montoya destroyed Schumi like Schumi was nobody.
that BMW engine sounds so violent, holy shit
The good ole days 🥲
Beasty Mad Wagon
Max and fernando are two wonderful champ drivers and good friend❤
verstrappen does the goofiest and hardest shit back to back
Without a rocketship like in 2022 and 23 he could only manage p4 😂😂😂
@@andrewmelton2686 you have to be trolling
@@2sabatdw man he's still trying to come to terms that Verstappen is locked in for 4x WDC this year
@@hachiko2692Just because the RB20 was untouchable in the early phases of the season. If you can count only the last 8 races, he managed to score just 15 points over Hamilton and Piastri
@@pe-peron8441 perhaps because RBR is focused on next years car? They got shit locked up. Relax son.
This shit ain't the bus-stop anymore. It's just a chicane.
The Montoya overtake was actually at the classic bus stop. (mostly)
Max & Fernando always respecting each other on track
Its strange that Schumacher was so unconfident with breaking on his best track, but still a great move from montoya
Different tyres from Montoya
Michelin were switching on better and faster than Bridgestones that day
And JPM is one of the best ever on the brakes like he’s insanely good
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 He tried it again later in that race and it ended in tears ...
@@Blue_Monkey but it enabled Pizzonia (teammate) to get thru to P3 while he maintained his position. Unfortunatelly both DNF cause tech issues
It is well known that Schumacher suffered from a strange blindness that prevented him from seeing Montoya's car during the entire 2004 season, even when he was right next to him. That is why he cannot defend his position.
Alonso moved aside and Max thanked him. The lifting Max had to do to reduce wear is crazy
That was awesome, fxk me the sound of Montoyas BMer sounded unfxknbelivable 🥇🏆😎🏆
Spa used to be basically a street circuit look at how close the barriers are in 2004!! Also notice how the outside of blanchimont is basically a ramp if you go wide...
@@lilibordei721 it was in the stage of where it stopped being a public road in 2001ish but before major renovations in 06/07
The renovations in 06/07 really gave Spa a more permanent track feel in the run from Stavelot to Les Combes
A vintage clip on yelistener's channel?
Hell yeah!
Max and JP really feel the same in some ways- like they are both drivers that don’t sugarcoat what they say and really could care less how you react to what they said. They are aggressive when battling someone too.
When I first saw Max I thought he would end up as a Montoya. Good that he gradually improved throughout and stayed level headed when he needed to be. I think Max has more raw pace than Montoya similarities apart.
Montoya could've been WDC if he wasn't such a c*nt
(I am Colombian and was a fan of his btw.)
Also leclerc does this move at perez at the end of 1st lap in 2020.
thanks for the last one bro, these details are awesome and the f1 channel has no idea
The wave! Haha I would love to know the personal dynamics behind that. I'm guessing just friendship, respect and joy but ya a little more detail would be cool
There isn’t any other than thank you for giving me the inside line. Hamilton also did the same with Leclerc in 2021 brazil
@gorgor1252 But.. doesn't that mean he gives up his shot at winning over him? Noob question I know, but I am really curious
@@AyushMo I'd say there wasn't much chance to begin with because of differences between the cars. So drivers choose not to defend and save their tires for another battle. Then there is just the question of how to let the other driver pass. Alonso gave max the inside line and max thanked him. Just my take.
Excellent videos and very insightful content. I like how you leave enough time for everyone to read your comments before continuing the video as well. Keep up the great work! THIS is the kind of YT content F1 should be about, not fake headlines to generate clicks with 1000 different loud mouths.
That ocon move was beautiful, 10 places penalty for him next race
And that ol busstop chicane must come back
Reducing the DRS zone really made the race boring
It also showed how much they rely on it. It's just terrible all around what they did with the cars and racing i last 10-12 years.
@@MyRealName yeah its sad. They really need to figure out how to reduce dirty air or its effects, a track like Spa has so many opportunities for wheel to wheel battles.
Disagree, it made the fight for the win more unpredictable and there were longer fights in general.
In previous years the cars just sailed past eachother without much resistance as the run up to Le Combes had a longer DRS straight.
@TonyUnderscore Most of the team are using low df setup here which makes drs less effective. And FIA shortened it...
Still better Than stupid DRS overtakes
Montoya's overtakes in 2004 and 2001 at Spa are as epic as Ocon in 2022.
So sad that Montoya left F1. Who knows what moments he could have provided. Crossing the line backwards in German quali, like Senna in France for example.
Old Bus Stop was beautiful
Mate you've crossed 100k subs
Congrats on that!
Why did he waved him 😂😂
Looks more like a thank you sign. For whatever reason, like not defending or thanking for using their mirrors.
@@Klont123 Possible. And/or the thing Lando and Carlos had going with all the waving. Alonso/Verstappen is nearly the same because they spend time together and share the same interests (racing, racing and racing).
Max waved out of respect to the man, saying thank you!
Alonso moved far left letting him confortably pass.
That's some great racing right there.
While Yuki, on the sister RB, defending like crazy! She also did the same thing many times too and that's why she won't get to pair with Max.
That's a thank you for not fighting the overtake.
thats a move you can rarely make in a video game
I still dont understand why 2004 looks so much faster... FOV? FPS? resolution? sound?
Montoya's move looks wild compared to modern ones.
Somehow, I failed to notice the little wave on Kemmel straight, although I don't recall that pass getting shown in the T-cam view on the world feed coverage.
On a side note, even though less than two weeks have passed since the most recent race, it already feels like something that happened forever ago due to the summer break.
that williams with BMW POWWAAAHHHHHHH
Wow that 2004 engine sounds fantastic compared to the crappy droning V6 of today.
best f1 channel
Did not even knew that the bus stop from 2024 was that different
Okay, I love your vids but here's a thing:
At 1:12 you use "of cause" when it should be "of course".
You have done this in multiple videos, that's why I have noticed
Keep up the great work
Once Montoya's onbaord comes on, it reminds me how much we have lost with these dyson engines
Montoya just braked way later than any other driver I've seen.
Explanation video on Russell's disqualification?
JPM move was the best but you can hear max keeping his foot in it which was awesome
Imagine your fingers *not* flying off while sticking them in the air at 330+ 😂
Williams sounds good
The title lol🤣
What's so funny?
@@HussainKhan-ux3il The title, duh.
@@Jejking cheers Einstein 🤯🤯🤯🔥
I feel max kinda wishes the AM kept on an upward trajectory, at the start of last year it felt like we might get to see those two battle and instead their terrible upgrade path robbed us of that
Hahaha Max is SO cheeky😂
With the car size of today's it was basically too hard for that to work out but it worked out perfectly. I was flabbergasted
Looks to me like Albon let him through to keep his own race alive. No point defending a faster car. That outside was wide open. Nobody does that.
Yeah wouldn’t say Albon defended hard exactly all the teams outside the top4 teams were defo in run your own race mode and don’t battle Max
You don't take the inside line at the chicane. Not defending would be keeping the racingline and let Max pass on the inside. Drivers are not compromising there raceline to favour somebody.
@@Eric-rf1isye like Alonso did, because that way he loses less speed moving off the racing line
@@rick1901 ........ and pick up marbles from the dirty side of the track....... certainly in a high braking zone , like the chicane.......BS. ALO did in on the straight.
@@Eric-rf1is ? i meant that Alonso kept the racing line so he lost a tiny bit less time than if he made max pass on the racing line
Hi - how do you use all this footage and avoid copyright?
That v10 car looks so much faster then the 24 Cars
2004 sound > 2024 sound
Wrong
how did you find the old onboards? they look just amazing!
I always saaid it, the old busstop was just epic.
I swear i thought that was Assetto Corsa for a second
v10 era, that sound 💦💦💦
Maybe max was also just saying hi since he rarely sees him in other races haha
can you do telemetry on saudi 2021 for verstappen? to see if he brake checked
The truth prevails Montoyeah 😂😂
Mr Round the Outside gets overtaken from... Round the outside
Please make more videos of Max and Alonso
Thanks ❤
I thought after a first couple of seasons with new regs that F1 was dead. This year as chaned my mind.
Here's a video of the top speeds of the Belgian GP, Stroll, Norris, all reaching above 350kph
Explanation video on Mercedes’ Error63 > 44 2 racing tracks
Every video supports the next
Chicane was much smoother back in 2004. when and why was this layout changed ?
"Bye, have a great time!" Verstappen, probably.
The old bus stop was a lot better.
Happy tears looking at the slim cars and the howling of the V10 🥲
Nah that wave was disrespectful
You forgot Leclerc in 2020
To those of you sayinng alonso defends everyone but verstappen, in this situation his car was far worse and also verstappen was on his bumper already at the start of the straight with drs, there was nothing alonso could do.
Outside line is way faster on bus chicane actually.
Didn't know the old car have to lift at t18
Montoya 😂
???
This is just Albon letting Max through, nothing else.
I prefer the previous bust stop.
so similar too..two cars with similar speed from the past and the fastest today, the rb vs a williams. loool at the sad attempt of a comparasion.
V10 ❤
He didn’t wave, he apologised. For what. I don’t know.
He didn’t apologised to Hamilton when he drove into him, like madman.
Crashtappen one day, Crashtappen everyday.
How do you even remember what had happened in 2004?
i was wondering why is a mclaren fighting with an alpine and albon then i saw the liveries.
i like the old shicane more
Diff lock braking system. Red Bull having been exploiting for years..
The Best Driver in Formula One. Sad for him, that he wasn't born in the United Kingdom, so he has to deal with being discredited and does not get praised enough.
Albon is great.
There's plenty of Verstappen shaggers. DC still is and the cancer that is Di Resta was the biggest one.
Max gets plenty of praise, it’s like people seek out the few who might critique him from time to time and use that as confirmation bias to think he doesn’t get any praise
It's not even that, it's the fact that he beat LH which happens to have the most toxic fanbase. Not surprising, considering all the woke BS from him personally. A certain type of fans just gang up naturally around people like that and you get toxic behavior towards anyone who isn't "one of them".
Max gets plenty of praise. People not liking him has nothing to do with his nationality. It's mostly that he's an unlikable, hypocritical asshole.
Ans Montoya havind the 4th or 5th car of the 2004 grid was very stunning🔥
Against a Williams 😂
Looks like Albon was smart enough to know he wasn't racing Verstappen and tried to prevent losing time to other drivers behind by battling too hard. This was basically the same move that lead to Verstappen crashing into Hamilton at Monza T1/2 in 21'.
Nope, you don't take the insideline at the chicane to favour somebody.
@@Eric-rf1isalbon could have easily crowded verstappen to the left after the apex but it would ruin both of their lines so it’s a much smarter play to let verstappen go and get his drs for the next 1/3 of a lap
@@chris_b44 Yeh, that's what you think. An F1 friver however, would stay left, on the racing line to let another driver by, staying on the racing line, NOT picking up rubbish........but ok, if YOU know better...🤣🤣
if verstappen farts you make a video about it hahah such a fanboy. Top 10 max swearing and being childish next, please!
A much faster redbull😂🤣 max doesnt gain on the straight he out brakes him
Verstappen: "peace out alonso"
Schumi must've been blind or stupid to give Montoya this overtake
2004: Juan Pablo Montoya -> Michael Schumacher
2022: Esteban Ocon -> Daniel Ricciardo & Nicholas Latifi
2024: Max Verstappen -> Alexander Albon
No Fears At The Bus Stop Chicane 🚏🚌🚍🔥💪⚡
#2004BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #2004Nostalgia #V10sNostalgia #2022BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #2022Nostalgia #2024BelgianGrandPrix🇧🇪 #CircuitDeSpaFrancorchamps🇧🇪 #SpaFrancorchamps🇧🇪 #Francorchamps🇧🇪 #Stavelot🇧🇪 #Wallonia🇧🇪
30/07/2024 17:18 Or 05:18 PM At My Local Time.
Tbf Albon put on no defence and let him go because he was in a redbull
I like all your videos but you did Ocon dirty this one.
You are clearly biased towards liking Alonso, and it's sort of rude and not gentleman like to name drop Alonso when Ocon is the focus getting a double pass.
Albon zero defence bcs of that he will be forever in williams.Fast driver on clean air but only that.washed
Max🤣🤣
Drivers nowadays put on the fake ass DRS and wave at each other. What a lame time for motorsports.
F verstappen. If both of them are verstappen, the outside verstappen will be forced out the track.
You're obsessed and should feel embarrassed.
cry
you look emotional mate
@@ivorojvar you look emotional mate
@@walltje ok ni ga
Is there a story on why he waved?