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I was at Universal Orlando yesterday where they have a huge tribute store for Wicked with merch and many of the costumes and props and videos from the actual movie. I was shocked by how tiny the dresses were and how narrow the waists were. That was my main takeaway after looking at it all. Wow those women are tiny, and also short. They are like Karen Carpenter.
I know this is not the hill to die on BUT IT'S PHOTOSHOP NOT AI a fan put genuine work into altering the movie poster to look like the original poster and they did a great job.
I see where that is coming from. But I also see a perspective where as an actor your body, voice, movement, etc. is the tool of your trade. And for a movie poster if all you have is your face, the fact that someone hides a key tool of your trade is kind of disrespectful.
@@AmblingSoulCC No it's not, it's not disrespectful in the least. Plus her expression in the original poster looks like she's confused about why she's there.
As someone who had anor3xia up until last year, malnutrition severely effects your mind, hormones, and emotional state. The amount of depression and lack of serotonin made me have some truly horrible thoughts of myself and my life. It's a terrible feedback loop. I can't believe I genuinely felt that I was in my right mind. It was almost like being intoxicated. What's even worse in this situation, is that both of these actresses are both encouraging one another in this sickness. Misery loves company. I hope to see this situation turn around. But yes, that is why everyone is crying in these interviews.
they have to be doing coke to get through the day. when i was at bmi 16 i couldn’t really do anything. idk how someone who has a demanding work schedule, is bmi 14, and is past 30 can do anything.
Congratulations to your progress and achievement! Needing to lose weight I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum but the constant focus on your weight and what you're eating is difficult. Here's to your continued success. 👍🙏❤️
I was a different beast in that my Anorexia dulled my overwhelming emotions; and I could suppress autistic meltdowns while silencing the ADHD chatter. I completely lost my personality, which I’d always seen as too much. I think back on how I actually lost my sense of uniqueness, which I’m pretty proud of and always have been. I’ve known a lot of women with this illness who may be similar in some of their symptoms, but different in others. Girl I’m so proud of you for fighting for yourself and recovering. I can tell how intelligent you are and if you felt ‘dumber’ in your illness like I did, having a fully functioning brain when you reach recovery is the biggest gift you can give yourself. ❤
I feel as if I'm currently going through that. I see a nurse practitioner who helps with the physical affects but I have no support in other areas. I keep having to remind myself that my brain isn't functioning well in my current state and I can't believe everything that pops in my head or trust my intuition about my health or mental state. Especially when I'm upset. It's a scary place to be in not being able to fully believe reality and not even knowing exactly what "reality" truly is. I'm glad you're doing better on your journey. I hope to get there one day
The lack of nutrients is definitely contributing to the emotional break downs. I've met Ariana many times when I used to work in radio. She wasn't rude but she was overly touchy feely and then I mentioned to my co-worker he said she's def on X. She also was EXTREMELY insecure about how she looked and how she was filmed. So yeah I could see substance use and body image issues still being a thing.
When I was in high school, I had a friend that became my best friend FAST. We developed anorexia together and it wasn’t necessarily competitive, but we did encourage each other to starve and defended each other when people accused us of not eating. We also started practicing witchcraft together and created a psychic bond. That’s 1000% the vibes I get from them. I see the two of us at our worst in them
my auntie (3 years older) and i discovered bulimia when i was 16, i had gained a bit of weight and she was always bigger, so we started binging and throwing up. eventually she stopped but i kept it up for 20 years. now i've lost 80% of my stomach because of ED injury, and struggle to keep my weight up. as they say 'be careful what you wish for!'. i hope you are well.
Fan art should be appreciated. The fan art for Peaky Blinders was used for the adverts on the London underground. Incredible art work. Respect the fans, they pay your wages.
@@luc_01_luc But it seems to be true. They are also crying over every little thing because they are a step from starving to death. When you're starving, your brain cannot function properly so it would explain pretty well them being SO emotionally dysregulated
Didn’t mean to overstep or anything. At point in the video Michelle pointed out that maybe they were crying because they were hungry. That brought up the memory for me so I shared it. Might apply to them, might not🤷♀️
This is the first video I see from you. 3 points: 1. your humour is on point, love it! 2. your skits with the dolls are very funny and creative :D 3. GIRL, YOUR ARMS, YOUR HAIR, YOUR FACE 😍 You are genuinely beautiful! 😍😍
Honestly.... their bodies aside, they are so strange together. Like they have this really off vibe around them when they're together like two fake friends who have nothing whatsoever in common but they're trying to convince everyone that they do.... it's so off.
The OG poster is iconic because of the secretive smirk. It shows she's got attitude! In the new poster she's just listening to Arianna like 😐 and it gives us NOTHING.
@@FaithinChrist3xyes. The red lips and the smirk made that poster. I somewhat agree that her eyes could have been left visible but it’s not that big a deal, and she definitely could have just mentioned that she liked the version with her eyes visible and not take it as a personal attack.
The actress losing her shit at a fan who edited the movie poster to be more like the musical poster (which was iconic) because the fan hid her face! And it's all about MEEEEEE!
As a person who has had periods of extreme weight loss due to health issues, I can tell you that barely eating has made me emotional and very stressed. I used to have a lot of random meltdowns from it too.
I'm way too out of the loop to even be in this comment section let alone probably be evening clicking on this video but I feel like I've seen that before honestly, in real life. I can't even think about it it's just that much. I wish ppl didn't go through stuff like this. Hollywood and the media in general are just a bunch of cruel b!tches
THIS. I didn't even realize my ex best friend and I were competing with our ED's when we were at the peak of it until my now husband intervened about our friendship
It would make sense if that’s the case, but I hope it’s not true and that they just lost weight from intense work and stress on set. Not that either of those things are great
Do you know what year and how did anyone find out it was her. Personal opinion, I completely believe that she TRIES....HARD, to be that thin. And smyou could tell by how she poses, that that's her goal.
Judy Garland was killed by Hollywood. She had a beautiful talent and a wonderful stage presence. Every stage appearance left the audience full of delight and wonder. Dirty old men took her and made her into an idea of what they were attracted to. Her Mum, instead of defending her, pushed her harder into their arms. A true Hollywood tragedy.
They made her a drug addiction by giving her pills to keep her up, downers to help her sleep. It's no wonder she medicated her whole life. Bless Judy Garland. She was beautiful.
Michelle, not sure if you'll see this but thank you for making the content you do. I've struggled with weight loss/gain my whole life and I gave up on being healthy after I became so underweight due to an ED that I was almost put in the hospital. I've been at a healthy BMI for years but never fully felt healthy. I didn't exercise really at all, I didn't eat healthy, I just didn't overeat. I've been watching your content for about a year and a few months ago I decided to start working out, literally just 15 min every day but it has changed my life. You've helped me to realize that I can have a healthy approach to working out and eating healthy foods that just means I feel good and I can hike all of the trails I did as a teenager, I don't need to focus on how I look. Thank you, truly. You're doing so much good for so many people.
Wow! I feel super proud on you for this progress! I have had an eating disorder too in the past and even though it is difficult, you can find your way and I feel so glad that you are finding your way ❤ I wish you the best! You can do it!! ❤
She has a history of being problematic and unnecessarily dramatic so I was disappointed but absolutely not surprised by that whole fiasco. I seriously can’t stand her. She ended the great comets run on broadway because she said the new casting was racist
When have you ever seen a film poster that failed to show the actors in it? For an actor, getting their face and name out there is everything. To be known for their role. Yes an actor is playing a part and it's just a character to others, but it's still them as an individual behind it. It is wild to cover the face of a key actor in the show when the poster is meant to be promoting the show and cast. Not a single one of the original cast's posters covered their face because that would be disrespectful since they were a part of it. She is right even if she got really worked up about it.
@@MG-uz5mr they covered her eyes and added a red lip, they didn’t cover her whole face. Half of her face was still visible. The same way the edit also raised Ari’s hand to cover her nose and mouth. Also the original poster didn’t show the original cast at all. It was a stylized cartoon/illustration. 4:36 And there have been movie posters in the past (and present), that doesn’t feature any of the actors involved.But you know what always gets featured whether they’re on the poster or not? Their name.
Looks more like a addict bond to me. I have no idea how to explain it but in my experience I've seen two people who are or become addicts together kinda latch on to eachother. Its not always romantic or spicy relationship just one without boundaries and intimate in a very strange way.
@joshuahutton not a conspiracy theory I was just sharing that I've seen this type of behavior from people in my life who did this like this after or while they were addicts. It could be a friend or lover but the behavior with eachother looked very similar to how they act in interviews. Not saying thats happening here at all they could just be acting crazy for the camera they are actors after all. But again in the interviews I just got flooded with dejavu because I personally have seen this before with a certain group of people.
Yep. No addict bond is romantic or spicy anyway. Just miserable and pathetic. To me, they just seem to be practicing spiritualism together a lot and genuienly thought they were connected in a way, they feed into each others delusion and think that they have a special telepathic bond
I swear to God, the fan art of the poster was absolutely perfect. It captured so much drama, a mysterious atmosphere, and a touch of the unknown. The smirk was truly powerful, to be honest. You could still clearly see that the witch was represented as a Black woman. Cynthia's meltdown was completely over the top and absolutely dripping with a shattered ego. Honestly, it was so ridiculous.
Here is the big problem with Cynthia's POV: "you're trying to erase me"... ma'am, you were erased the moment the green makeup came out and the iconic black hat was placed on your head, you were replaced with Elphaba. This isn't the Cynthia show, it is all about Elphaba. The scene depicted in the original broadway poster is at a time when Galinda and Elphaba are bonding over secrets, starting their friendship. Elphaba is NOT brazen and bold at this point in her story and is shy to make direct eye contact with anyone in fear she will be wrongfully judged for her appearance so she kept herself guarded... directly looking into the camera as Elphaba is out of Elphaba's character. So no Cynthia, no one was trying to erase you, they were trying to stay true to the damn scene and character you were portraying!
My eating disorder therapist and I have been talking how irresponsible it is for Hollywood to be portraying them as if it’s normal and something to aspire to. Thank you for speaking out. I would never take my young daughter to see this movie. I feel like it’s going to be the origin story for so many future women with eating disorders.
This is what i was thinking about a lot when they were filming the movie and saw the underweight Ariana during it - so many young girls & women are going to see an underweight person in a normalized & idolized role
i think it's possible for young girls to watch this movie and not fall into eating disorders, as long as you take the time to have a discussion about it, and acknowledge that it's not ok. i loved the movie, but comparing the two leads to the background actors, and yeah something is very up with their weight.
@@user-yo5yr9yr2h my ED therapist was explaining how eating disorders is not an age appropriate topic for young girls. I think maybe after the age of 10 it would be more appropriate? But also, eating disorders run in families and with me having one I really want to protect my kids. I know I was triggered a lot growing up by idolizing Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton during their very thin era. I feel like Ariana is the new generation of this… and don’t get me started on Ozempic oh my God 😢
It’s really not, you disallowing your child to see something bc of that is kinda idiotic, your daughter will never worry about those things at her age now trust me, I’m a kid myself, I went to see the movie yesterday and it was glorious and AMAZING, and I went to see it with my mother and we had a blast, taking taking that kind of experience away from your kid is very sad, it’s unlikely your child will even be thinking those things if you show them a healthy lifestyle and tell them it’s ok to be them and show them many different movies or books
The original poster is artful and iconic and because of the clever inversion. We see Glinda's eyes but her lower face is covered. With Elphaba it's the inverse, we see her lower face but her eyes are covered. The promotion poster lost that key design element it had, the fan restored it.
@@scarscarscarwu I said the same thing when I was deep in my ED in order for people to not suspect... i actually took it as a compliment when people said how skinny i was because that meant i was "successful" in my weight loss... it really is a mental problem.
Honestly, I don’t know how celebrities don’t cry more often. I could never imagine doing a movie press tour in different time, zones being exhausted and dehydrated from flying, and then expected to put on a smile.
Tbh if I got to play my dream role of all dream roles in the movie version of Wicked, which has been soooo long in the making and which so many theatre kids grew up loving, I'd probably never STOP crying on the press tour lol. Hell, I saw it today and was an absolutely embarrassing (but quietly, lol) mess. Wicked was a big reason a lot of folks pursued musical theatre as a career... I was 17 when it opened on broadway, and it was definitely one of the main pushes for me. I watch them getting emotional and am like "yes of course you're both crying all the time, I would be too." 😂🤦🏼♀️
It's a part of the media campaign…if someone was genuinely crying that much, it would be a sign that they're on their verge on a mental breakdown. Especially if just looking at one another set them off. Actors gonna act.
@@jordinibabini what the hell are you talking about? i'm supposed to contact the actors involved, and wait for their response, before doing a fan edit of a movie poster? lol, lmao
It breaks my heart that Hollywood and pop culture in general has circled back to ED culture so intensely. I’m working to heal my relationship with food and achieve a healthy weight and I try not to let it get to me, but damn. Did someone send us through a Time Machine back to 2014 Tumblr? Anyways, to every person reading this: you are more than your weight! Take care of yourself, mind and body- food is fuel! I promise it’s so worth it to nourish yourself properly.
Her eyes showed zero emotion in the poster. The edit was way better and she knew that and felt embarrassed that her expression wasn’t giving as much as she thought it was
Best theory I heard is that producers *wanted* it to be closer to the original, Cynthia fought them tooth and nail over it because she wanted her whole face to be seen (she is known as a bit of diva in broadway circles, to put it lightly) and then got incredibly pissed off that someone created the poster she didn't want anyway and - even worse - that people *preferred it* , thus proving her wrong.
Judy Garland’s story is so sad :( I wanted to cry hearing them calling her “piggy” when she was 14 years old and not even fat?!? Hollywood really must be rotten to the core… and I hope Ariana and Cynthia can recover, to me it clearly reads as the ED bonding mentioned. It’s all so concerning 😭
@ right. I guess you want them to end up like Karen Carpenter. Really sad that you’re letting your admiration for their talents cloud reality. Anyone with eyes can see that they do not appear physically healthy. Especially when compared with just a few years ago. I hope they seek treatment and are able to recover. They’re incredibly talented but they need to work on their self image.
What i dont get is why they made the cast look so old. These characters are supposed to be freshmen in college. (That is where Wicked takes place). But i find it so weird how these women both look at least over 35 when they're supposed to be around 18.
@gabrielasouza7745 there is a novel and a Broadway play about it. The story is about young adults first navigating the world and learning to embrace each other's differences. Unless if 35 is the new young adult then....
@@gabrielasouza7745they are early 20s at most, since its a movie they couldve literally shown the changes in age (more than just having a child version and an adult version) you cant rly do that on stage unless you go the shrek route, but i wish movies werent so reliant on the previous fame of actors because it would have been nice to have some completely new people in these roles (movie is great tho!)
@gabrielasouza7745 i also never said it was going to be a bad movie or that it will ruin the movie. I was just saying that since both the book and the play are based on younger characters the movie could have went that route. I'm also not bent out of shape over this. This won't make or break the movie for me. You seem to be the one you is very upset about it. Not sure why. It is just an option on the internet.
Cynthia has some deep seated insecurities and beliefs which have been brought to the surface because of this movie. Which Cynthia has taught Ariana to believe that it is Ariana's responsibility to regulate Cynthias emotions for her instead, of letting Cynthia do it herself. This is dangerous toxic codependency which won't end well.
While its possible that both actresses could be on drugs/suffering from an ailment - I have to wonder if most of this speculation is related to their styling: niether of them have eybrows, cythinia is bald, ariana's new coloring washes her out ...I think the stylist was going for an otherworldly look but eneded up making them look sick.
@@yaderincrimin2973 Neither of them really look childlike, though. Ariana looked more childish and cute before she got super skinny and the sickly blonde hair. Cynthia, not to be mean, I'm a black woman myself, but her features are just simply too strong for her to come across as childish. I agree with OP that they were trying to create an otherworldly vibe, but instead made them look....off. They just look sick.
i was malnourished for a long time due to health issues and it really messes you up. it turns you into a completely different person. it’s no surprise to me that they’re behaving like this.
@@luc_01_lucdon’t put words into my mouth. i’m not claiming they have eating disorders nor am i projecting onto them, i’m sharing my view as someone who experienced something similar (albeit for different reasons). it’s incredibly clear that there is something wrong, this is not normal or reasonable behavior by any means. pretending like that’s not the case and defending them for behaving like this won’t change that fact.
The fan edited poster was made with photoshop too, not AI. Not sure why Cynthia kept claiming that. People photoshop things all the time in their fandom, it’s all for fun.
It's because of the AI memes that were going around of her and Ari fighting but uh... That's got nothing to do with the fan poster so. I don't know why they even lump them together. The media is ironically media illiterate. The ones giving us our media are media illiterate.
@@sinestesianestesia9079 I can tell it's not AI, here's how: take the original poster, upload it to ChatGPT, and try to convince ChatGPT to produce anything close to that fan-edited poster. Without it randomly changing parts or turning it into another unrelated image. Good luck!
Im a 5 foot 10 size 0. I get emotional when I’m tired. I can’t imagine having to be a celebrity and then doing a press tour in different time zones I would be exhausted.
apparently they got 10 matching tattoos during the course of filming, and one of them is on the palm of their hands so they touch when they hold hands 😭 these girls are just so weird
@@Chelseabellsiee I mean the word gay doesn’t really convey good or bad, your statements kind of a nothing-burger so we can’t tell what your saying, better try next time
@@IshaanArya-tu9uk, that's completely incorrect an almost a more ignorant statement than the original one you're replying to. Gay does have an original definition that came before the one we know now. It originally was another word for happy or joyous. The statement above could be taken as a positive one. Also everyone knows the negative connotation as well so your comment makes zero sense.
As someone who has ED, seeing people say that those people don't look ok and are sick helps me, because, by myself, I think they look extremely good. Listen everyone saying it's not good, it's not healthy and ok helps me to pay more attention to how's my mental health and how twisted my vision might be
It's not just their bodies. You can tell by the way that they act in interviews, and by the way that they melt down on social media over very minor things, that the ED is also severely affecting their mental health.
As someone who suffered from ED since 13 (I'm 33 now), seeing this new wave of pro@nas in the media makes me sick, and it's very triggering. Keep strong girl, theres nothing better than to be healthy!!! You are beautiful, and your body is your home. We need to love ourselves, our natural and unique beauty ❤ Keep strong
Licking donuts is something a starving person would do. Grande has looked and acted like she's struggling with anorexia for a long long time. It's sad.
13:53 I dunno why anyone is surprised by her behavior. She had a song saying “break up with your girlfriend” years ago. She’s not a girls girl. I don’t like her music or style, so all this behavior justifies that I ain’t missing nothin.
She’s not but her behavior has been celebrated as women empowerment by too many. Personally, I believe if the woman knew, both parties are guilty. 🙂↔️🙂↔️equal opportunity to catch these hands for putting my health and womb in danger
I dunno what’s going on but I came tod ya I would never let my kids, especially my daughters, watch this movie. Only because Ariana looks terrible. I say this with concern, she looks like she has a serious ED and we all know she needs mental health help.
Well of course there is a time and a place where it's wrong to comment on someone else's body, like going up to strangers in the grocery store and critiquing their cart based on their body size or something. But she is a public figure who is being shoved into the faces of everyone, even kids in a movie that is rated PG, so I'm not saying this is one of those times where we have to be quiet.
@@frankfrank366 this is what i'm saying like i think we /should/ call out celebrities on unhealthy behavior when we see it. obviously we shouldn't be mocking them or being cruel but as a public figure their influence is undeniable
@@frankfrank366 Yep. As someone who had EDs for decades, I can say putting a woman that thin in a movie that is in part meant for kids is going to send a message. I know what message I would have received when I was young.
Right? I am severely underweight. Always have been, longer than my memory even serves me. I've been like this my entire life. I get Ari, in some way. I truly get it. BUT, I get so annoyed when the conversation gets brought up, and people are quick to not utter it towards me out of fear of hurting my feelings. I'm aware of my condition and I'm not offended by it, but in this case, feeling DO need to be hurt. The truth DOES need to be spoken. This isn't about an ugly pair of shoes that you grin and bear and pretend are nice, this is someone's life. Being this thin is a SERIOUS health risk. It needs to be talked about. I don't mind when people talk about my body. It's a cause for concern, I'd rather someone be fucking honest than being fake happy all the time.
Exactly, they scream "skinny shaming" and "oh my god stop talking about women's bodies! leave our queen Ari alone." Their "queen" could die before she's 40 and the hill they want to die on is "she's always been skinny! god!!!!" It's so much projection and denial it's concerning. How many of these fans have eating disorders themselves and don't like getting called out, even when it's not directed at them? There's a difference between shaming and actual concern. I think she's a terrible role model but I still don't want anything to happen to her.
Someone on TikTok said they had a codependent ED friendship so they know one when they see it. I truly believe Ariana and Cynthia are like this. Like spiraling out together and heavily codependent.
Honestly I liked the fanart edit better than the actual poster bc it teases the viewer instead of giving everything away. Having a meltdown over a fan edit only served to sour the experience of the film for me
The og artist took it really well, fortunately. They're a good sport about it, but if some weirdo celebrity sent their army after me with death threats and calling me racist over something I made in good faith I don't think I would have been nearly as nice as this poor artist was.
Thank you for covering this cause everyone has been just making excuses for Arianna and her cast. It’s crazy work how much she gaslights everyone. I’m honestly sick of it.
Absolutely. I was so sick and emotionally unstable, and I was only 18. To top it off I was crushing my adderall up and snorting it making me a manic mess. My nursing school teacher made me go to treatment bro 😳
My sympathy is reserved for those who do not brag about stealing a married man away from his wife and newborn in a song, to make money off of the humiliation of another woman and the destruction of a family unit. I won't extend sympathy to a detached elite who thinks her image being edited is worse than the tr_fficking of underage persons, or other atrocities currently happening on a global scale. They have the money and connections to be better people. They choose not to be.
Flash news, nobody "steals" anybody. He made a choice. And for how ugly it is, if he fell in love with another person what was he supposed to do? Stay unhappy in an unhappy marriage?
Ariana Grande can bomb a country and people will still find a way to defend her 💀 it’s getting ridiculous. Can’t wait to see the day when awful people aren’t being idolized
@@DaniL-hr9xonews flash, home wrecking and CHEATING with a man who is ALSO CHEATING on his wife who JUST GAVE BIRTH. Is disgusting. Sure, someone shouldn’t stay in an unhappy marriage. But they both are cheaters which is absolutely shameable, and SpongeBob didn’t even give his family a CHANCE. Couldn’t even wait for the baby to be a few months old.
to be fair, the movie made me cry several times. as a theatre kid who loves wicked seeing two people who, despite their real life personalities, very clearly care about wicked and treated with the respect it deserves makes me emotional too, even watching the interviews. but i am a theatre rat
It's weird to me how they all refer to the fanmade poster as "AI-generated." Like, no...the edit is kind of obviously made by a person. It seems like some sort of way to discredit the fan even further and rewrite the story, imo.
I feel like the word “AI”was used by the media to make it sound worse because “AI bad”. And I do think AI making an entire piece of work when you can hire an artist is bad, but AI was used at most as a tool.
or maybe she has BPD and had a breakdown and discreetly admitted to that coming from someone with bipolar it isn’t easy to admit to messing up, sometimes.
YES! I agree. I was told I was being a hater but as someone who's had an ED, and has been "friends" with other people with ED's (because in the end we only enabled each other and to recover we had to part ways. Devastating, but it had to be done).
@@ellaelliott4415as someone who has been there too it’s heartbreaking but change and distance is for the better. I hope someone close to them will say something.
@@luc_01_lucyou don’t seem to be in the right place to be talking about the importance of mental health. I have nothing against their friendship but after working with people who have acted the exact same way all the signs are obvious. They need some time apart (not forever) to get healthy. Once they are healthy they can make the decision to see each other again. A good therapist is going to say the exact same thing. I saw clients who were inpatients together start copying each other’s ticks, reactions to things, and movements. The proof is there. They were healthy weights going into this movie and after they are scarily thin. I’m not shaming them in any way before you go and say something about that. Having first hand experience and later on working with others who have EDs it’s hard to pretend nothing is wrong. Please think before you speak.
@@luc_01_lucokay that is your opinion and I respect your opinion, however you are on a UA-cam channel (1 of many mind you) that breaks down clips and over analyzes people, drama, and world issues. If you don’t like people doing that then why are you here trolling? There are even licensed clinical psychologists on UA-cam who do the same thing. If this triggers you in anyway please refrain from reading comments. Also i noticed you changed your name from Joshua Hutton to gibberish. Not sure why.
ET literally just regurgitates the celebrities publicists talking points, they don't care about journalistic integrity. Thats how they keep getting exclusive interviews
The hidden eyes from the poster were ALSO in the book cover. Cynthia disrespected a character, source material, author, and artist. Like girl, you're an actress. You don't own the character.
well the whole point of the movie is that it is an adaption rather than a copy of the book and musical, so ig following your logic, the movie itself is ingerently disrespectful as it doesnt fully follow the book and musical to a T
Cynthia Erivo is the only celebrity who, every time I hear about her, it’s for being obnoxious. I don’t actually know much about her so I’m trying not to judge or write her off, but I never hear anything pleasant and that causes me to just avoid anything involving her.
She has spoken about her struggles with mental illness in the past. I think that having BPD is probably part of what makes her such a great actress, but it's not an easy disorder to have or treat. In the future, the people in charge just need to put something in her contract about running social media posts and public statements by an approved publicist before sending them out into the world.
It’s such a shame because she is wildly talented. One of the best Celie’s to ever do the Color Purple the musical but she seems so insufferable and she’s very weird about black Americans
She's been in a few things....The Outsiders on Max, Bad Times at the El Royal and of course Broadway. She's good and a good belter of song, so she just needs to stick to the script and let the PR people do the talking.
@@racheeerach Ahhhhhhh. BPD would explain it. Better PR management sounds like a good and necessary idea. If she’s as talented as I’m hearing, it’s a waste to let over-exposure to the public ruin that. Unless she’s doing real harm, it’s fine to just keep her more problematic impulses in the group chat.
I worked on marketing shoots and press junket for Wicked. I can confirm they both don’t eat. Usually people are sent out to get food for the actors where ever they want. But both always “pushed through” lunch. My first thought was they are helping each other’s ED. They have no concentration at all. And they do act like they have huge brain fog. And I do think it’s because they don’t eat. I had an ED as a kid and younger adult. And I picked up on it right away.
HAHAHA ikr i was like, girl u can't be for real. It's like she's faking her entire personality at this point or just to deep on the train of substance consumption, ED and method acting.
Degrading their image?? Their doll had a link to a porn website on the back of the box. Maybe they need to focus on that and not be so angry at fan art
Mistake from manufacturer lol. I totally forgot about that but I remember it happening. Wicked dolls merch and there was a misprint or something for a website link on the box and the site wasn’t uh… child friendly Honestly the more I find out about these two and the goings on here behind the scenes of this movie production I’m just like wow this shit is wild. I hadn’t seen those skinny pics and press recently until this video but I knew something was off… for sure. Didn’t want to watch any interviews after like the first one and they both seemed like too egoic and off kilter… and weird in their emotionality and friendship. I hope they get some help and therapy for the ED soon. Really scary to see. I’m trying to get abs myself and doing intermittent fasting and have been wondering if I’ve been going into ed territory and where the line is,,, so it is definitely chilling for me.
And to echo Elvira, I friend of mine ran into Ariana in a hotel several years ago and she said Ariana was extremely rude and condescending to my friend who was a fan of her. Basically treated her like she was a disease and less than human, laughed in her face for even speaking to her. It really crushed my friend and we both have a very bad opinion of her now so I’m not surprised when I hear others say the same.
So you’re saying she ran into her and Ariana laughed in her face for trying to talk to her, then left? Or Ariana stopped to have a conversation with her… for some reason… where she acted condescending…?
All them acting like they care about AI being bad when the fan poster isn’t even ai, it’s basic photoshop is baffling me Edit/additional context: There was an AI video edit as well, separate from the fan edit this video is discussing, and I’m assuming the interview clips mentioning AI are about that going by replies
There was a separate edit to the poster, where someone animated it (with AI) to have them start fighting. But you're right in that people are often starting to call things AI that are just normal old-fashioned editing.
The editor needs to throw a fit about how their work is being erased by everyone calling it an AI poster. They need to stop denying the artist's humanity it's so offensive.
@@hellokittyblunts the context given in that whole section of this video was about the original edited photo that got the meltdown response, no need to be passive aggressive when the video was only ever referring to the edited photo. Another reply also is mentioning the ai video so people can see that added info now
Everything they say or do looks so performative. I have no idea how anyone could be moved by this. And to think that they’ll do this all over again for part II…… exhausting
Ariana Grande once mentioned that her vocal change was because she is getting older and wants to keep her voice warm at all times. Basically if she speaks on a higher tone, her singing voice will be safe in her current singing range. This is actually true as a technique, our choir teacher used to tell us to do it for a few hours every morning as we got older, but doing it 24/7 is an overkill... Despite being a good vocal exercise, I am not sure how damaging it is for her vocal chords.
No, she has always spoken in a form of impression/fake voice, which is actually very stressful on the voice! And HOW would her voice get HIGHER from getting older??! That doesn’t make any sense! And didn’t you see the recent clips of her forgetting to do the voice for a phrase while talking and then picking up the fake voice again? The most recent one was during her podcast or interview with the actor who plays the stalker from You.
OMG, you are hillarious! What an amazing episode - thank you! It was entertaining AF. Especially loved the part about Arriana and Spongebob LMAO and the role play with the dolls was epic
Same. Maybe some day I'll be sitting at home, when it's on Netflix or something, and I'll try to watch it out of curiosity, but the chances of me going to a theater full of people to see it is near 0%.
@@kandi668 his family better without him he should be forced to pay alimony and child support but stay away from them his wife deserves a sexier nicer man with a big D
I think at least Arianna’s look is to look, sound and act childlike as much as possible so she doesn’t loose relevance. Probably a warped adaptation of loosing her childhood acting. It’s creepy and honestly alarming how much she portrays a 13 year old
Thinking about it, don’t they say that going through childhood abu5e and an ED kinda freezes you in a childlike state..? As much as I cringe at her latest persona & accent, I do feel bad for her and everything she’s gone through that we do and don’t know for sure.
@@GrungeGalacticawhat kind of abuse did she suffer as a child? She was a rich and privileged stage kid. She didn’t suffer nothing except her parents divorcing, which millions of kids deal with everyday.
I think Ariana is creepy af. I only found out about her existence a few months ago (I'm not the target audience) but her eyes Look perpetually bored and the Rest ... Alien. Idk ... I can't really say why, but she physically repells me...
I love that Cynthia got to just laugh off her mistake with no true apology directly to the creator of the poster edit, who had to suffer through extreme threats and accusations. “Tee-hee I just had a bad day, silly me!” She only addressed the situation once people called her out for her nonsense. Cynthia is basically Eric Cartman! Just because you’re talented, doesn’t mean you should be an overly-dramatic nut
You know I think it's inappropriate to compare Cynthia to a fictional character known for his antisemitism, misogyny, & racism...that one time he got a kid to eat his own parents.
Ben Starr who is an actor from the UK and also he played the protagonist in the newest Final Fantasy (he just hosted the golden joystick awards actually) said something along those lines at a con I saw him at during an interview 😂 His dad died and he took three days off work, then came back and had to record lines with his character at his dads grave as his first takes. He said that you need to be professional as an actor and that at the end of the day it is a job and it’s not fair to take things out on other people who are there working.
@TheEverGrowingRosey-333 that isn’t the point of the comparison. what this means is that she didn’t take responsibility for her little outburst and didn’t think it was wrong. just like the character, even if rarely, she only said something because people took notice and didn’t like it. she came to her own defense
If we found out that Ariana goes through so many relationships with men because she's actually gay so she's never really been into them beyond friendship but had to be hetero for her brand like Whitney Houston was forced to be, the world would suddenly make a lot more sense. I'm here for gay Ariana.
I’m so glad you brought this up. I saw their photos and they remind me eating-disordered patients. They seem like they are trauma-bonded and likely on drugs (to perform, etc.). It’s sad to see what it takes to be at the “top”.
I thought the SAME thing about the "they are f**king!!!!" Comments. They are two women with "main character syndrome"😂😂 They are destined to either be mortal enemies or THE ABSOLUTE BESTEST OF FRIENDS- NO!!!!! SPIRIT SISTERS!!!!😭😭😭😭 and they play up the friendship as dramatic and as emotional as possible. The hand holding, face touching, constant crying is textbook in the highscool theater community. The real them comes out in things like the poster incident where their true personality shows (again main character syndrome) but when they get backlash they go on camera and are dainty and "hehe oops!! Sowwy" sweet again.
Excellent vid. It makes perfect sense that these two are crying in all their interviews and clutching each other for reassurance if they're starved half to death. Cynthia's meltdown over the poster makes perfect sense in that context, and she sounds like she's trying to apologise in later interviews. Thank you for such an excellent, well researched and brilliantly entertaining video!
well researched video = making random correlations to EDS and crying even though theres a much clearer explanation that ari has literally been dreaming of this role since her childhood days of broadway and this role for cynthia will catapult her into the mainstream? you guys just love clinging to the more interesting yet convulsive narratives because as you claim they are “entertaining”
What's probably my biggest issue with this movie is its run time....what do you mean it's almost 3h and it's only half of the musical?!! Who's sitting through that only to see a half....at this point just go and see the original musical that's not cut in half and is only 2h max Edit: The OG musical is also almost 3h but at least it's the entire story and you get breaks in between acts so I still prefer the musical over the movie in that regard
Wow I did not know that there is definitely no way I can watch a six hour movie even in 2 parts. Confirms my worst fears about a musical being drawn out
To be fair, I've heard they're adding in content from the book, and just giving the story more breathing room. I recently rewatched the actual stage show, and I was surprised at how lightning fast the pacing is, especially in the second half. Plus, act one is basically its own self-contained story, so even if people choose to not go see Part 2, they'll still be left with a satisfying narrative, no frustrating cliffhangers like a lot of the other two part movies that come out recently
Because money. Someone crunched the numbers and they make more splitting it into 2 parts. People will definitely come though because they mass marketed it as just one movie and they’ll get enough people committed to come back for part 2
That comment from Cynthia about the edited poster just shows that she has low self esteem and no self worth which is all a struggle in itself. When someone is not sure of themselves, everything is so horribly offensive. Things dont have power until you give them power. I hope that she is able to build herself up in a way that an edited poster or whatever else does not make her feel so angry and hurt.
And how do you think the person who made the fan edit was feeling with the response Cynthia, an actress with a lead role in an upcoming Hollywood film, is feeling?
I mean, I get it. She probably has been erased so many times in Hollywood that she’s extra sensitive to it. I mean it’s Hollywood. Let’s be honest we know it’s happening. Not saying her outrage was appropriate. Because the fan doesn’t know that.
@@HulaMask Even if the fan did know how erased she felt, it's clear that their art was meant to be a compliment, so they likely would have done it anyway since the average person would be thinking about the poster quality as a whole and believe their work was going to lift her up, not thinking "erasing her eyes will trigger her trauma." As many have pointed out, that stylistic is well known in art. Cynthia's the one with the outlying opinion...one that the average person wouldn't come to even if they empathized with her past grievances.
@@cryptic1999 they didn't say they don't care about the fan, they said they hope Cynthia grows. this is like when someone says "I like pancakes" and you come in like "waffles are not trash!!" like nobody said that homie
I think if they ate normally, they wouldn't all be so hangry, sad, crying... There's quite seriously something to say about their extreme weight losses though, as it can affect serotonin levels.
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I was at Universal Orlando yesterday where they have a huge tribute store for Wicked with merch and many of the costumes and props and videos from the actual movie. I was shocked by how tiny the dresses were and how narrow the waists were. That was my main takeaway after looking at it all. Wow those women are tiny, and also short. They are like Karen Carpenter.
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wtf is Michelle on about! Ariana has always been tiny. Get your facts straight homegirl.
I know this is not the hill to die on BUT IT'S PHOTOSHOP NOT AI a fan put genuine work into altering the movie poster to look like the original poster and they did a great job.
This was my exact thought, so thank you for mentioning it!
You cannot have inspiration and be creative these days without someone crying. The world is so sad.
Its cute fanart, stat
yes, it's funny before all edited images were called photoshopped, now it's AI
are you all fckg hearing yourselves !!?? you guys wont understand all this because you are not actors!
The eyes being a window is the whole point of hiding them in original poster
Ikr? Kind of awkward she didn’t know that. 🥴
Wow what kind of professional is that i though she was a broadway singer?
I see where that is coming from. But I also see a perspective where as an actor your body, voice, movement, etc. is the tool of your trade. And for a movie poster if all you have is your face, the fact that someone hides a key tool of your trade is kind of disrespectful.
@@Lppt87 LOL neither are
@@AmblingSoulCC No it's not, it's not disrespectful in the least. Plus her expression in the original poster looks like she's confused about why she's there.
As someone who had anor3xia up until last year, malnutrition severely effects your mind, hormones, and emotional state. The amount of depression and lack of serotonin made me have some truly horrible thoughts of myself and my life. It's a terrible feedback loop. I can't believe I genuinely felt that I was in my right mind. It was almost like being intoxicated. What's even worse in this situation, is that both of these actresses are both encouraging one another in this sickness. Misery loves company. I hope to see this situation turn around. But yes, that is why everyone is crying in these interviews.
they have to be doing coke to get through the day. when i was at bmi 16 i couldn’t really do anything. idk how someone who has a demanding work schedule, is bmi 14, and is past 30 can do anything.
Congratulations to your progress and achievement! Needing to lose weight I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum but the constant focus on your weight and what you're eating is difficult. Here's to your continued success. 👍🙏❤️
I was a different beast in that my Anorexia dulled my overwhelming emotions; and I could suppress autistic meltdowns while silencing the ADHD chatter. I completely lost my personality, which I’d always seen as too much. I think back on how I actually lost my sense of uniqueness, which I’m pretty proud of and always have been. I’ve known a lot of women with this illness who may be similar in some of their symptoms, but different in others.
Girl I’m so proud of you for fighting for yourself and recovering. I can tell how intelligent you are and if you felt ‘dumber’ in your illness like I did, having a fully functioning brain when you reach recovery is the biggest gift you can give yourself. ❤
I feel as if I'm currently going through that. I see a nurse practitioner who helps with the physical affects but I have no support in other areas. I keep having to remind myself that my brain isn't functioning well in my current state and I can't believe everything that pops in my head or trust my intuition about my health or mental state. Especially when I'm upset. It's a scary place to be in not being able to fully believe reality and not even knowing exactly what "reality" truly is. I'm glad you're doing better on your journey. I hope to get there one day
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The lack of nutrients is definitely contributing to the emotional break downs. I've met Ariana many times when I used to work in radio. She wasn't rude but she was overly touchy feely and then I mentioned to my co-worker he said she's def on X. She also was EXTREMELY insecure about how she looked and how she was filmed. So yeah I could see substance use and body image issues still being a thing.
Ecstasy?
@@uhmwhat158 xanax
what is x btw
@@karma-616 the "X" is short for xænãx
Yeah what's X?
The Wizard of Ozempic literally made me laugh out loud and choke on my coffee. Instant sub.
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I was literally crying
😂😂 I'm glad i wasn't the only one who thought ariana was using it
I personally don’t think it’s ozempic. I fully believe it was snowing on the Wicked set. Their eyes are all insane lmao.
@devananderlitch5868 No white substance would do that in such a short time.
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You just described every movie set in history
Yeah that's a possibility.
@@ewe392 LOL I guess that’s true. This is just the first time I’ve been privy to it.
When I was in high school, I had a friend that became my best friend FAST. We developed anorexia together and it wasn’t necessarily competitive, but we did encourage each other to starve and defended each other when people accused us of not eating. We also started practicing witchcraft together and created a psychic bond. That’s 1000% the vibes I get from them. I see the two of us at our worst in them
I hope you’re in a better place now
How exactly does someone create a psychic bond? Did yall cast some type of spell?
@@fairyfalls2386lots of drugs and a psychotic temperament, most likely
my auntie (3 years older) and i discovered bulimia when i was 16, i had gained a bit of weight and she was always bigger, so we started binging and throwing up. eventually she stopped but i kept it up for 20 years. now i've lost 80% of my stomach because of ED injury, and struggle to keep my weight up. as they say 'be careful what you wish for!'. i hope you are well.
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Fan art should be appreciated.
The fan art for Peaky Blinders was used for the adverts on the London underground. Incredible art work. Respect the fans, they pay your wages.
Nifty tidbit! Now I gotta find the art!
SHE WAS PISSED BECAUSE SHE WAS HANGRY, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU STARVE YOURSELF FOR A ROLE
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@@luc_01_luc but where's the lie? do you see how ariana looks? don't be dumb
@@luc_01_luc But it seems to be true. They are also crying over every little thing because they are a step from starving to death. When you're starving, your brain cannot function properly so it would explain pretty well them being SO emotionally dysregulated
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What’s weird is idk why her role needed her to be any skinnier than she already was so if she lost weight for it, it was her decision
Can confirm about the crying part, as an anorexic girlie the hunger meltdowns were frequent for me, even over small things
@@luc_01_lucit also doesn’t invalidate her experience. Sit down.
Didn’t mean to overstep or anything. At point in the video Michelle pointed out that maybe they were crying because they were hungry. That brought up the memory for me so I shared it. Might apply to them, might not🤷♀️
Disagree. Personal opinion that applies to probably many but not all. Many anorexics feel but NUMB because of the hunger, which makes them NOT cry
@@luc_01_lucWe know your big ass doesn’t know anything about being ana
No idea why the replies are so incendiary, thanks for sharing
The one with the hat over her eyes looks better because its mysterious and more witchy.
Ikr
I like that one too. The smirk 😏 was instantly intriguing! Bravo to the top notch graphics designers! I’m looking forward to watching Wicked!
Exactly
This is the first video I see from you. 3 points:
1. your humour is on point, love it!
2. your skits with the dolls are very funny and creative :D
3. GIRL, YOUR ARMS, YOUR HAIR, YOUR FACE 😍 You are genuinely beautiful! 😍😍
Honestly.... their bodies aside, they are so strange together. Like they have this really off vibe around them when they're together like two fake friends who have nothing whatsoever in common but they're trying to convince everyone that they do.... it's so off.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that
It’s so strange !! I thought it was just me
Reminds me of Charlie’s Angels movie when the women were all touchy and hanging all over each other like instant besties, cringy behavior.
Their vibe gives me ‚Heavenly Creatures‘
Literally every vid I see of them is the two fangirling over musical theatre wdym
The OG poster is iconic because of the secretive smirk. It shows she's got attitude! In the new poster she's just listening to Arianna like 😐 and it gives us NOTHING.
yasss, give us nothing 👏🏼👏🏼
I'm not sticking up for her but imo it sounds like she's taken that wayyyy too personally
It's a shame, the photoshppped poster was a league above the original movie poster.
@@FaithinChrist3xyes. The red lips and the smirk made that poster. I somewhat agree that her eyes could have been left visible but it’s not that big a deal, and she definitely could have just mentioned that she liked the version with her eyes visible and not take it as a personal attack.
Said it before and I'll say it again- it's giving Oblivion NPC
The actress losing her shit at a fan who edited the movie poster to be more like the musical poster (which was iconic) because the fan hid her face! And it's all about MEEEEEE!
Yeah and completely nuts! Must be painful to be in her sick head! Poor fan❤
Give me the same energy as demi lovato and froyo shop drama. Hollywood life mus be boring with all the sparkle and money
I saw the movie and she’s not bad but… it’s not the career defining performance she says it is
wtf??? what a cunt you cant even appreciate a gift
@@japanesesnack I have never been able to respect her since then. She just became soo unlikeable
As a person who has had periods of extreme weight loss due to health issues, I can tell you that barely eating has made me emotional and very stressed. I used to have a lot of random meltdowns from it too.
Same.
True but coupled with Cynthia's angry outbursts and Arianas history with drugs cough if you know you know I think they're both honestly on cocaine
Restrictive EDs are so competitive, so I wonder if they’re just making each other worse, wether its conscious or not.
I'm way too out of the loop to even be in this comment section let alone probably be evening clicking on this video but I feel like I've seen that before honestly, in real life. I can't even think about it it's just that much. I wish ppl didn't go through stuff like this. Hollywood and the media in general are just a bunch of cruel b!tches
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It’s absolutely on purpose
THIS. I didn't even realize my ex best friend and I were competing with our ED's when we were at the peak of it until my now husband intervened about our friendship
It would make sense if that’s the case, but I hope it’s not true and that they just lost weight from intense work and stress on set. Not that either of those things are great
Ariana used to have an ED blog on Tumblr, she’s absolutely relapsed and I’m tired of everyone acting like we have to dance around it
Huh?? Do you have proof of that?
Do you know what year and how did anyone find out it was her. Personal opinion, I completely believe that she TRIES....HARD, to be that thin. And smyou could tell by how she poses, that that's her goal.
I feel like I vaguely recall this.
@@DB-xo6xh people with ED try hard to be thin. Too hard. That's the kinda the point?
her trying to gaslight the public into believing she hasn't had any work done + the obvious an.a appearance
Judy Garland was killed by Hollywood. She had a beautiful talent and a wonderful stage presence. Every stage appearance left the audience full of delight and wonder. Dirty old men took her and made her into an idea of what they were attracted to. Her Mum, instead of defending her, pushed her harder into their arms. A true Hollywood tragedy.
Ariana Grande was a child actress in Hollywood - we can only imagine... Very sad.
They made her a drug addiction by giving her pills to keep her up, downers to help her sleep. It's no wonder she medicated her whole life. Bless Judy Garland. She was beautiful.
Agreed. Same thing with Shirley Temple.
And they do it with all the young actors and singers, look at Justin Bieber. We as a society need to keep our kids out of mass media productions.
Judy Garland also had an amazing free 5:58 range pitch hitting voice that still registers with audience today in Somewhere Under the Rainbow.
Michelle, not sure if you'll see this but thank you for making the content you do. I've struggled with weight loss/gain my whole life and I gave up on being healthy after I became so underweight due to an ED that I was almost put in the hospital. I've been at a healthy BMI for years but never fully felt healthy. I didn't exercise really at all, I didn't eat healthy, I just didn't overeat. I've been watching your content for about a year and a few months ago I decided to start working out, literally just 15 min every day but it has changed my life. You've helped me to realize that I can have a healthy approach to working out and eating healthy foods that just means I feel good and I can hike all of the trails I did as a teenager, I don't need to focus on how I look. Thank you, truly. You're doing so much good for so many people.
That's wonderful! I hope Michelle sees your comment.😊❤
Wow! I feel super proud on you for this progress! I have had an eating disorder too in the past and even though it is difficult, you can find your way and I feel so glad that you are finding your way ❤ I wish you the best! You can do it!! ❤
Cynthia, you're an actress. Your job is to pretend to be someone else. No one erasing you. "You're" technically not even there.
She has a history of being problematic and unnecessarily dramatic so I was disappointed but absolutely not surprised by that whole fiasco. I seriously can’t stand her. She ended the great comets run on broadway because she said the new casting was racist
When have you ever seen a film poster that failed to show the actors in it? For an actor, getting their face and name out there is everything. To be known for their role. Yes an actor is playing a part and it's just a character to others, but it's still them as an individual behind it. It is wild to cover the face of a key actor in the show when the poster is meant to be promoting the show and cast. Not a single one of the original cast's posters covered their face because that would be disrespectful since they were a part of it. She is right even if she got really worked up about it.
@@MG-uz5mr they covered her eyes and added a red lip, they didn’t cover her whole face. Half of her face was still visible. The same way the edit also raised Ari’s hand to cover her nose and mouth.
Also the original poster didn’t show the original cast at all. It was a stylized cartoon/illustration. 4:36
And there have been movie posters in the past (and present), that doesn’t feature any of the actors involved.But you know what always gets featured whether they’re on the poster or not? Their name.
@maya6562 what other problematic stuff has she done??
Jim carrey talks about this topic
Looks more like a addict bond to me. I have no idea how to explain it but in my experience I've seen two people who are or become addicts together kinda latch on to eachother. Its not always romantic or spicy relationship just one without boundaries and intimate in a very strange way.
@joshuahutton not a conspiracy theory I was just sharing that I've seen this type of behavior from people in my life who did this like this after or while they were addicts.
It could be a friend or lover but the behavior with eachother looked very similar to how they act in interviews. Not saying thats happening here at all they could just be acting crazy for the camera they are actors after all. But again in the interviews I just got flooded with dejavu because I personally have seen this before with a certain group of people.
I believe that's what they were referring to with the "mutually destructive competitive ED friendship"
Yep. No addict bond is romantic or spicy anyway. Just miserable and pathetic. To me, they just seem to be practicing spiritualism together a lot and genuienly thought they were connected in a way, they feed into each others delusion and think that they have a special telepathic bond
@@luc_01_lucit’s not far fetched. Virtually everyone in Hollywood has been on something at one point or another
An ED can be pretty addictive so even if they aren't doing drugs, I still think that's pretty accurate
Ariana had vocal changes, face changes, race changes. You never know which Ariana you're gonna get!
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I hope they all come with a gift receipt. I don't need to know the cost, just want to return it.
I don't think that's even her voice. Sounds like Kristen Chenowith
@nineteenfortyeight I think it's her trying to sound like Kristin Chenowith...Kristin sounds much better!
I was just saying to someone remember when Ariana was a black girl for one album lol
I swear to God, the fan art of the poster was absolutely perfect. It captured so much drama, a mysterious atmosphere, and a touch of the unknown. The smirk was truly powerful, to be honest. You could still clearly see that the witch was represented as a Black woman. Cynthia's meltdown was completely over the top and absolutely dripping with a shattered ego. Honestly, it was so ridiculous.
"To hide my eyes is to erase me."
Well, throughout the entire movie, her real skin colour is hidden, but she didn't have a meltdown about that.
Professional victims will Professional victim
@@GigglewithFelix321 Didn't feel very professional though.
Umm you lost the point, if you don't get it don't comment, this comment was embarrassing honestly
Her real eyes are covered by colored contacts too. Just a narcissist having a breakdown over her narrative not being completely in her control
@ and what exactly is the point white knight?
Here is the big problem with Cynthia's POV: "you're trying to erase me"... ma'am, you were erased the moment the green makeup came out and the iconic black hat was placed on your head, you were replaced with Elphaba. This isn't the Cynthia show, it is all about Elphaba. The scene depicted in the original broadway poster is at a time when Galinda and Elphaba are bonding over secrets, starting their friendship. Elphaba is NOT brazen and bold at this point in her story and is shy to make direct eye contact with anyone in fear she will be wrongfully judged for her appearance so she kept herself guarded... directly looking into the camera as Elphaba is out of Elphaba's character. So no Cynthia, no one was trying to erase you, they were trying to stay true to the damn scene and character you were portraying!
And, honestly, the original is just creepy. Her eyes look like Ariana just stuck her tongue in her ear.
@@refinnej5302Nah not really it just looks AI generated.
Get over it, the poster thing doesn’t matter anymore
She tries too hard to be deep
“You were erased the moment the green makeup came out and the black hat was placed on your head…” EXACTLY 👏🏽👏🏽
My eating disorder therapist and I have been talking how irresponsible it is for Hollywood to be portraying them as if it’s normal and something to aspire to. Thank you for speaking out. I would never take my young daughter to see this movie. I feel like it’s going to be the origin story for so many future women with eating disorders.
This is what i was thinking about a lot when they were filming the movie and saw the underweight Ariana during it - so many young girls & women are going to see an underweight person in a normalized & idolized role
i think it's possible for young girls to watch this movie and not fall into eating disorders, as long as you take the time to have a discussion about it, and acknowledge that it's not ok. i loved the movie, but comparing the two leads to the background actors, and yeah something is very up with their weight.
@@user-yo5yr9yr2h my ED therapist was explaining how eating disorders is not an age appropriate topic for young girls. I think maybe after the age of 10 it would be more appropriate? But also, eating disorders run in families and with me having one I really want to protect my kids. I know I was triggered a lot growing up by idolizing Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton during their very thin era. I feel like Ariana is the new generation of this… and don’t get me started on Ozempic oh my God 😢
@@vildekm a lot of teenage girls that I was in ED treatment with follow Ariana on Instagram and it makes me so sad 😞
It’s really not, you disallowing your child to see something bc of that is kinda idiotic, your daughter will never worry about those things at her age now trust me, I’m a kid myself, I went to see the movie yesterday and it was glorious and AMAZING, and I went to see it with my mother and we had a blast, taking taking that kind of experience away from your kid is very sad, it’s unlikely your child will even be thinking those things if you show them a healthy lifestyle and tell them it’s ok to be them and show them many different movies or books
The original poster is artful and iconic and because of the clever inversion. We see Glinda's eyes but her lower face is covered. With Elphaba it's the inverse, we see her lower face but her eyes are covered. The promotion poster lost that key design element it had, the fan restored it.
They are bonding over their shared eating disorder.
Exactly
100%. That's mia. You can tell by the jaw & neck.
Yup 🎯
As an underweight person myself, she literally said that she’s the healthiest she’s ever been… Well that was a damn lie.😂
@@scarscarscarwu I said the same thing when I was deep in my ED in order for people to not suspect... i actually took it as a compliment when people said how skinny i was because that meant i was "successful" in my weight loss... it really is a mental problem.
The best part is Cynthia posted a picture on her insta of the poster but with her eyes closed. Her eyes CLOSED 🤦🏽♀️
@@mishelixchel omg no way😂. That’s perfect because I felt this was a weird put on state of feeling “attacked”.👨🍳💋
Girl was having the weirdest moment genuinely hope she apologized
@@oreochocolate_lavacake9960apparently she said on a red carpet for the movie that she did overreact
Why are they crying so much for THIS movie?? Cynthia played Harriet freaking Tubman. What. Is. Going. On???
Honestly, I don’t know how celebrities don’t cry more often. I could never imagine doing a movie press tour in different time, zones being exhausted and dehydrated from flying, and then expected to put on a smile.
Tbh if I got to play my dream role of all dream roles in the movie version of Wicked, which has been soooo long in the making and which so many theatre kids grew up loving, I'd probably never STOP crying on the press tour lol. Hell, I saw it today and was an absolutely embarrassing (but quietly, lol) mess. Wicked was a big reason a lot of folks pursued musical theatre as a career... I was 17 when it opened on broadway, and it was definitely one of the main pushes for me. I watch them getting emotional and am like "yes of course you're both crying all the time, I would be too." 😂🤦🏼♀️
I know it's just ridiculous. And I absolutely LOVED her as Harriet!
PR stunt
It's a part of the media campaign…if someone was genuinely crying that much, it would be a sign that they're on their verge on a mental breakdown. Especially if just looking at one another set them off. Actors gonna act.
18:46 why is this movie being treated like it’s a true life story of a strong woman overcoming tragedies or soemthing jeee
It’s actually horrific how much Spongebob man looks exactly like her brother. Sick.
Like TWINS
Freud???
@@unaestheticarri6487Literally uncanny how similar they are
he should get dna tested😭
Yall who is that I need a legal name
I was shocked at how emaciated Ariana looked in this movie- she looks so sick and snowed out in so many photos during filming too!
She's always been tiny but I agree this is definitely giving ED
She needs to apologize directly to the person who made the fan edit
Fancy meeting you here
I disagree. if she needs to apologize, the fan should’ve gotten her approval first
@@jordinibabini Nga What ? For a fan edit??
@@blue-vv3rd please edit the “nga” out of your comment.
@@jordinibabini what the hell are you talking about? i'm supposed to contact the actors involved, and wait for their response, before doing a fan edit of a movie poster? lol, lmao
It breaks my heart that Hollywood and pop culture in general has circled back to ED culture so intensely. I’m working to heal my relationship with food and achieve a healthy weight and I try not to let it get to me, but damn. Did someone send us through a Time Machine back to 2014 Tumblr?
Anyways, to every person reading this: you are more than your weight! Take care of yourself, mind and body- food is fuel! I promise it’s so worth it to nourish yourself properly.
Her eyes showed zero emotion in the poster. The edit was way better and she knew that and felt embarrassed that her expression wasn’t giving as much as she thought it was
Grande or Cynthia???
@@minhoisbbg Cynthia
@@minhoisbbgcynthia
@@minhoisbbgCynthia
Best theory I heard is that producers *wanted* it to be closer to the original, Cynthia fought them tooth and nail over it because she wanted her whole face to be seen (she is known as a bit of diva in broadway circles, to put it lightly) and then got incredibly pissed off that someone created the poster she didn't want anyway and - even worse - that people *preferred it* , thus proving her wrong.
Judy Garland’s story is so sad :( I wanted to cry hearing them calling her “piggy” when she was 14 years old and not even fat?!? Hollywood really must be rotten to the core… and I hope Ariana and Cynthia can recover, to me it clearly reads as the ED bonding mentioned. It’s all so concerning 😭
They also called her "my little hunchback"
I admire what a good mother she was to Liza Minnelli despite her own awful mother.
@@luc_01_luc having genuine concern for someone’s health and wellbeing is not the same thing, sweetie.
@ right. I guess you want them to end up like Karen Carpenter.
Really sad that you’re letting your admiration for their talents cloud reality. Anyone with eyes can see that they do not appear physically healthy. Especially when compared with just a few years ago.
I hope they seek treatment and are able to recover. They’re incredibly talented but they need to work on their self image.
@ delusional, toxic fan.
What i dont get is why they made the cast look so old. These characters are supposed to be freshmen in college. (That is where Wicked takes place). But i find it so weird how these women both look at least over 35 when they're supposed to be around 18.
Yeah if they were going to use an older cast they should have just used the original broadway cast
@gabrielasouza7745 there is a novel and a Broadway play about it. The story is about young adults first navigating the world and learning to embrace each other's differences. Unless if 35 is the new young adult then....
@@gabrielasouza7745they are early 20s at most, since its a movie they couldve literally shown the changes in age (more than just having a child version and an adult version) you cant rly do that on stage unless you go the shrek route, but i wish movies werent so reliant on the previous fame of actors because it would have been nice to have some completely new people in these roles (movie is great tho!)
@gabrielasouza7745 i also never said it was going to be a bad movie or that it will ruin the movie. I was just saying that since both the book and the play are based on younger characters the movie could have went that route. I'm also not bent out of shape over this. This won't make or break the movie for me. You seem to be the one you is very upset about it. Not sure why. It is just an option on the internet.
@@emilyplewes7817 épraler ? typical white woman shit
Cynthia has some deep seated insecurities and beliefs which have been brought to the surface because of this movie.
Which Cynthia has taught Ariana to believe that it is Ariana's responsibility to regulate Cynthias emotions for her instead, of letting Cynthia do it herself.
This is dangerous toxic codependency which won't end well.
While its possible that both actresses could be on drugs/suffering from an ailment - I have to wonder if most of this speculation is related to their styling: niether of them have eybrows, cythinia is bald, ariana's new coloring washes her out ...I think the stylist was going for an otherworldly look but eneded up making them look sick.
Yeah I thought maybe they where going for a childlike look tbh, which is creepy
Mmm no they look sick because they’re sick. Lack of nutrients will do that to you.
@@yaderincrimin2973 Neither of them really look childlike, though. Ariana looked more childish and cute before she got super skinny and the sickly blonde hair. Cynthia, not to be mean, I'm a black woman myself, but her features are just simply too strong for her to come across as childish. I agree with OP that they were trying to create an otherworldly vibe, but instead made them look....off. They just look sick.
Ariana's bones stick out from every part of her body. It's not styling.
Lol, no, they're thinner, it's not about style which didn't change.
i was malnourished for a long time due to health issues and it really messes you up. it turns you into a completely different person. it’s no surprise to me that they’re behaving like this.
@joshuahutton all your comments are weird and obtuse.
@@elizaonmarsright they are trying SO HARD to defend this
@@luc_01_lucdon’t put words into my mouth. i’m not claiming they have eating disorders nor am i projecting onto them, i’m sharing my view as someone who experienced something similar (albeit for different reasons). it’s incredibly clear that there is something wrong, this is not normal or reasonable behavior by any means. pretending like that’s not the case and defending them for behaving like this won’t change that fact.
The fan edited poster was made with photoshop too, not AI. Not sure why Cynthia kept claiming that. People photoshop things all the time in their fandom, it’s all for fun.
Very curious: how can you tell? I really wouldnt know the difference 😅
@@sinestesianestesia9079I’m pretty sure the original person who posted it said it was photoshop
Fr it was never that deep she will live
It's because of the AI memes that were going around of her and Ari fighting but uh... That's got nothing to do with the fan poster so. I don't know why they even lump them together. The media is ironically media illiterate. The ones giving us our media are media illiterate.
@@sinestesianestesia9079 I can tell it's not AI, here's how: take the original poster, upload it to ChatGPT, and try to convince ChatGPT to produce anything close to that fan-edited poster. Without it randomly changing parts or turning it into another unrelated image. Good luck!
Slater is responsible for leaving his wife and child, not Ariana. Men actually has some responsibility too.
I also cry constantly when malnourished
Edit: the SpongeBob in the corner took me out 😂
@@feathersprinkles yeah hot or hungry I’m a much worse person!
The doll scenes are always the best, but that almost killed me. 😂
Man!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Im a 5 foot 10 size 0. I get emotional when I’m tired. I can’t imagine having to be a celebrity and then doing a press tour in different time zones I would be exhausted.
True😂
apparently they got 10 matching tattoos during the course of filming, and one of them is on the palm of their hands so they touch when they hold hands 😭 these girls are just so weird
that’s the sweetest thing I’ve ever heard
super gay
@@Chelseabellsiee I mean the word gay doesn’t really convey good or bad, your statements kind of a nothing-burger so we can’t tell what your saying, better try next time
@@IshaanArya-tu9uk, that's completely incorrect an almost a more ignorant statement than the original one you're replying to. Gay does have an original definition that came before the one we know now. It originally was another word for happy or joyous. The statement above could be taken as a positive one. Also everyone knows the negative connotation as well so your comment makes zero sense.
@ ok so which are you using, the negative connotation or the original textbook definition?
As someone who has ED, seeing people say that those people don't look ok and are sick helps me, because, by myself, I think they look extremely good.
Listen everyone saying it's not good, it's not healthy and ok helps me to pay more attention to how's my mental health and how twisted my vision might be
SAME. I have to check myself sometimes.
It's not just their bodies. You can tell by the way that they act in interviews, and by the way that they melt down on social media over very minor things, that the ED is also severely affecting their mental health.
As someone who suffered from ED since 13 (I'm 33 now), seeing this new wave of pro@nas in the media makes me sick, and it's very triggering. Keep strong girl, theres nothing better than to be healthy!!! You are beautiful, and your body is your home. We need to love ourselves, our natural and unique beauty ❤ Keep strong
The relationship between the witches is merely gay fishing for all the Friends Of Dorothy.
Fight me.
Licking donuts is something a starving person would do. Grande has looked and acted like she's struggling with anorexia for a long long time. It's sad.
Yes and continues to gaslight all her followers and normalizing it
@@bluehairedvixen yeah people have been defending her as naturally skinny. Those people are straight up delusional.
I like her music and honestly only really recently noticed when I started seeing more videos of her. I feel bad tbh
She was being a brat when she licked the donuts. I think she even spit in one. I’m still not over it lol
@ yeah it was gross as hell. Some of her other behavior does make it seem like she has an ed though
13:53 I dunno why anyone is surprised by her behavior. She had a song saying “break up with your girlfriend” years ago. She’s not a girls girl. I don’t like her music or style, so all this behavior justifies that I ain’t missing nothin.
She’s not but her behavior has been celebrated as women empowerment by too many. Personally, I believe if the woman knew, both parties are guilty. 🙂↔️🙂↔️equal opportunity to catch these hands for putting my health and womb in danger
I feel the same way
She's not and I don't care for her singing either so I highly pass.
Glad someones talking about this cuz somethings up 😭
fr fr im here like are we supposed to act like this is normal?
wdym everyone in twitter is talking about this
Right skeletal? Break downs something’s wrong even for hollyweird!
@luisabonilla9094 I don't have Twitter my bad 😅
I dunno what’s going on but I came tod ya I would never let my kids, especially my daughters, watch this movie. Only because Ariana looks terrible. I say this with concern, she looks like she has a serious ED and we all know she needs mental health help.
I’m very impressed with the effort that went into the doll sketch
The set design in particular was amazing
I’ve heard the story of Judy Garland, but, wow! Had no idea she was only 47 when she died. She looked so old.
Drugs will do that to you, unfortunately. It's a shame really, she was incredibly talented.
Yeah the whole situation with Garland is really sad. Her life was tragic
The whole situation with Garland and on the entire set (the cast too), is about sad and disgusting
She was put through the ringer in Hollywood
Hard living and drugs will do that to ya
tbf ariana has been looking *gaunt* for a minute. And I resent when people say we cant comment on someone elses body like girl I am concerned.
Well of course there is a time and a place where it's wrong to comment on someone else's body, like going up to strangers in the grocery store and critiquing their cart based on their body size or something. But she is a public figure who is being shoved into the faces of everyone, even kids in a movie that is rated PG, so I'm not saying this is one of those times where we have to be quiet.
@@frankfrank366 this is what i'm saying like i think we /should/ call out celebrities on unhealthy behavior when we see it. obviously we shouldn't be mocking them or being cruel but as a public figure their influence is undeniable
@@frankfrank366 Yep. As someone who had EDs for decades, I can say putting a woman that thin in a movie that is in part meant for kids is going to send a message. I know what message I would have received when I was young.
Right? I am severely underweight. Always have been, longer than my memory even serves me. I've been like this my entire life. I get Ari, in some way. I truly get it. BUT, I get so annoyed when the conversation gets brought up, and people are quick to not utter it towards me out of fear of hurting my feelings. I'm aware of my condition and I'm not offended by it, but in this case, feeling DO need to be hurt. The truth DOES need to be spoken. This isn't about an ugly pair of shoes that you grin and bear and pretend are nice, this is someone's life. Being this thin is a SERIOUS health risk. It needs to be talked about. I don't mind when people talk about my body. It's a cause for concern, I'd rather someone be fucking honest than being fake happy all the time.
Exactly, they scream "skinny shaming" and "oh my god stop talking about women's bodies! leave our queen Ari alone." Their "queen" could die before she's 40 and the hill they want to die on is "she's always been skinny! god!!!!" It's so much projection and denial it's concerning. How many of these fans have eating disorders themselves and don't like getting called out, even when it's not directed at them? There's a difference between shaming and actual concern.
I think she's a terrible role model but I still don't want anything to happen to her.
Someone on TikTok said they had a codependent ED friendship so they know one when they see it. I truly believe Ariana and Cynthia are like this. Like spiraling out together and heavily codependent.
You are really good at this! What a bright talent. You keep it real.
Honestly I liked the fanart edit better than the actual poster bc it teases the viewer instead of giving everything away.
Having a meltdown over a fan edit only served to sour the experience of the film for me
Cynthia Erivo rant about a fan art poster was really ridiculous i feel really bad for the original artist
Me too
the original artists was literally laughing about it on stan twt… unlike this creator who is trying to push a different narrative
Istg She is so dramatic, the poster actually looked so pretty.
The og artist took it really well, fortunately. They're a good sport about it, but if some weirdo celebrity sent their army after me with death threats and calling me racist over something I made in good faith I don't think I would have been nearly as nice as this poor artist was.
Thank you for covering this cause everyone has been just making excuses for Arianna and her cast. It’s crazy work how much she gaslights everyone. I’m honestly sick of it.
if she’s sick then no sh- she will…that’s not something to be mad about, but something to be concerned about…
if she has an ED, then do you think she wouldn’t possible be in denial…?
@@mystic5663concern can turn to annoyance very easily when u mention being concerned and get gaslit for months and months about it
Your gym regimen is killing it girl 💜
“How was the food on set?”
Cynthia: 😭😭😭😭
that’s concerning not funny
@ I know that’s why I wrote it?
Time stamp?
@@Teemo654421:46
In the height of my ED i was very emotional stress, sadness, and happiness all made me bawl like a baby 😅
I am a recovered ED but I am still emotional af, I still bawl at everything😂
Can confirm. That honestly explains a lot abt their behavior
Can confirm, my anxiety was so terrible in the peak of my ED as a teen. Wishing you all peace and happiness. ❤
Starvation does a number on the body and mind!
Absolutely. I was so sick and emotionally unstable, and I was only 18. To top it off I was crushing my adderall up and snorting it making me a manic mess.
My nursing school teacher made me go to treatment bro 😳
My sympathy is reserved for those who do not brag about stealing a married man away from his wife and newborn in a song, to make money off of the humiliation of another woman and the destruction of a family unit.
I won't extend sympathy to a detached elite who thinks her image being edited is worse than the tr_fficking of underage persons, or other atrocities currently happening on a global scale.
They have the money and connections to be better people. They choose not to be.
Flash news, nobody "steals" anybody. He made a choice. And for how ugly it is, if he fell in love with another person what was he supposed to do? Stay unhappy in an unhappy marriage?
and your source of all of this is page six lmfao
@@DaniL-hr9xothey are both hacks
Ariana Grande can bomb a country and people will still find a way to defend her 💀 it’s getting ridiculous. Can’t wait to see the day when awful people aren’t being idolized
@@DaniL-hr9xonews flash, home wrecking and CHEATING with a man who is ALSO CHEATING on his wife who JUST GAVE BIRTH. Is disgusting. Sure, someone shouldn’t stay in an unhappy marriage. But they both are cheaters which is absolutely shameable, and SpongeBob didn’t even give his family a CHANCE. Couldn’t even wait for the baby to be a few months old.
to be fair, the movie made me cry several times. as a theatre kid who loves wicked seeing two people who, despite their real life personalities, very clearly care about wicked and treated with the respect it deserves makes me emotional too, even watching the interviews. but i am a theatre rat
It's weird to me how they all refer to the fanmade poster as "AI-generated." Like, no...the edit is kind of obviously made by a person. It seems like some sort of way to discredit the fan even further and rewrite the story, imo.
I feel like the word “AI”was used by the media to make it sound worse because “AI bad”. And I do think AI making an entire piece of work when you can hire an artist is bad, but AI was used at most as a tool.
I think they were referring to all the AI animated clips of the poster.
@@SunnyAndSharehe said “ai poster”
@@SunnyAndShareyes exactly because there were multiple innapropriate ai posters simultaneously being posted at the time of the other poster
or maybe she has BPD and had a breakdown and discreetly admitted to that coming from someone with bipolar it isn’t easy to admit to messing up, sometimes.
I work in mental health and they are literally in a unhealthy relationship and, no pun intended but, they are feeding off each other.
YES! I agree. I was told I was being a hater but as someone who's had an ED, and has been "friends" with other people with ED's (because in the end we only enabled each other and to recover we had to part ways. Devastating, but it had to be done).
@@ellaelliott4415as someone who has been there too it’s heartbreaking but change and distance is for the better. I hope someone close to them will say something.
@@luc_01_lucyou don’t seem to be in the right place to be talking about the importance of mental health. I have nothing against their friendship but after working with people who have acted the exact same way all the signs are obvious. They need some time apart (not forever) to get healthy. Once they are healthy they can make the decision to see each other again. A good therapist is going to say the exact same thing. I saw clients who were inpatients together start copying each other’s ticks, reactions to things, and movements. The proof is there. They were healthy weights going into this movie and after they are scarily thin. I’m not shaming them in any way before you go and say something about that.
Having first hand experience and later on working with others who have EDs it’s hard to pretend nothing is wrong.
Please think before you speak.
@@luc_01_lucokay that is your opinion and I respect your opinion, however you are on a UA-cam channel (1 of many mind you) that breaks down clips and over analyzes people, drama, and world issues. If you don’t like people doing that then why are you here trolling? There are even licensed clinical psychologists on UA-cam who do the same thing. If this triggers you in anyway please refrain from reading comments. Also i noticed you changed your name from Joshua Hutton to gibberish. Not sure why.
i hate that people use "ai generated" as a synonym for "photoshopped" now
Fr
Right? Like photoshop can take hours of work. AI generated is done in seconds
People are literally idiots it’s exhausting
ET literally just regurgitates the celebrities publicists talking points, they don't care about journalistic integrity. Thats how they keep getting exclusive interviews
this has given me a whole new perspective on the vibe of them, thank u
Cynthia is just simply looking at the camera. She’s not showing any facial expressions for acting, no photogenic energy. She’s just like 🐸
👁 _👁
@ exactly 😂😂😂
@@JaredWilliams-l7j wait a minute 😅 your profile picture looks more accurate than the emojis hahah
LITERALLY!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@jalesaisbackDANG 😅
The hidden eyes from the poster were ALSO in the book cover. Cynthia disrespected a character, source material, author, and artist. Like girl, you're an actress. You don't own the character.
well the whole point of the movie is that it is an adaption rather than a copy of the book and musical, so ig following your logic, the movie itself is ingerently disrespectful as it doesnt fully follow the book and musical to a T
Cynthia Erivo is the only celebrity who, every time I hear about her, it’s for being obnoxious. I don’t actually know much about her so I’m trying not to judge or write her off, but I never hear anything pleasant and that causes me to just avoid anything involving her.
She has spoken about her struggles with mental illness in the past. I think that having BPD is probably part of what makes her such a great actress, but it's not an easy disorder to have or treat. In the future, the people in charge just need to put something in her contract about running social media posts and public statements by an approved publicist before sending them out into the world.
It’s such a shame because she is wildly talented. One of the best Celie’s to ever do the Color Purple the musical but she seems so insufferable and she’s very weird about black Americans
That would be such an amazing idea fr. @@racheeerach
She's been in a few things....The Outsiders on Max, Bad Times at the El Royal and of course Broadway. She's good and a good belter of song, so she just needs to stick to the script and let the PR people do the talking.
@@racheeerach Ahhhhhhh. BPD would explain it. Better PR management sounds like a good and necessary idea. If she’s as talented as I’m hearing, it’s a waste to let over-exposure to the public ruin that. Unless she’s doing real harm, it’s fine to just keep her more problematic impulses in the group chat.
I worked on marketing shoots and press junket for Wicked. I can confirm they both don’t eat. Usually people are sent out to get food for the actors where ever they want. But both always “pushed through” lunch. My first thought was they are helping each other’s ED. They have no concentration at all. And they do act like they have huge brain fog. And I do think it’s because they don’t eat. I had an ED as a kid and younger adult. And I picked up on it right away.
I now have multiple screenshots of Ariana looking like a dead eyed robot with the caption: "What a gift it is to feel." Thank you.
HAHAHA ikr i was like, girl u can't be for real. It's like she's faking her entire personality at this point or just to deep on the train of substance consumption, ED and method acting.
Degrading their image?? Their doll had a link to a porn website on the back of the box. Maybe they need to focus on that and not be so angry at fan art
WHAT
HUH
@@sal4538yup!! Look up the wicked doll controversy
Mistake from manufacturer lol. I totally forgot about that but I remember it happening. Wicked dolls merch and there was a misprint or something for a website link on the box and the site wasn’t uh… child friendly
Honestly the more I find out about these two and the goings on here behind the scenes of this movie production I’m just like wow this shit is wild. I hadn’t seen those skinny pics and press recently until this video but I knew something was off… for sure. Didn’t want to watch any interviews after like the first one and they both seemed like too egoic and off kilter… and weird in their emotionality and friendship.
I hope they get some help and therapy for the ED soon. Really scary to see. I’m trying to get abs myself and doing intermittent fasting and have been wondering if I’ve been going into ed territory and where the line is,,, so it is definitely chilling for me.
EXCUSE ME ???
And to echo Elvira, I friend of mine ran into Ariana in a hotel several years ago and she said Ariana was extremely rude and condescending to my friend who was a fan of her. Basically treated her like she was a disease and less than human, laughed in her face for even speaking to her. It really crushed my friend and we both have a very bad opinion of her now so I’m not surprised when I hear others say the same.
So you’re saying she ran into her and Ariana laughed in her face for trying to talk to her, then left? Or Ariana stopped to have a conversation with her… for some reason… where she acted condescending…?
@@alexbennet4195you can act rude and condescending without having a conversation
she's only nice to fans when cameras are filming
@alexbennet Ariana stan spotted.
@@HowToBeAlone yes. You do need to… speak to someone for that to come across though? So what actually happened?
Hey algorithm! She knows what shes doing!!
All them acting like they care about AI being bad when the fan poster isn’t even ai, it’s basic photoshop is baffling me
Edit/additional context: There was an AI video edit as well, separate from the fan edit this video is discussing, and I’m assuming the interview clips mentioning AI are about that going by replies
There was a separate edit to the poster, where someone animated it (with AI) to have them start fighting. But you're right in that people are often starting to call things AI that are just normal old-fashioned editing.
The editor needs to throw a fit about how their work is being erased by everyone calling it an AI poster. They need to stop denying the artist's humanity it's so offensive.
theres an AI video they’re referring to when they talk about AI being bad, so delete your comment now, thank you
@@hellokittyblunts the context given in that whole section of this video was about the original edited photo that got the meltdown response, no need to be passive aggressive when the video was only ever referring to the edited photo. Another reply also is mentioning the ai video so people can see that added info now
@@orirune3079”..if it involves a computer it’s Ai, DUHhh!”
Everything they say or do looks so performative. I have no idea how anyone could be moved by this. And to think that they’ll do this all over again for part II…… exhausting
I’ve felt this way about Ariana for years now I don’t think we’ve seen much of the real her.
Ariana Grande once mentioned that her vocal change was because she is getting older and wants to keep her voice warm at all times. Basically if she speaks on a higher tone, her singing voice will be safe in her current singing range.
This is actually true as a technique, our choir teacher used to tell us to do it for a few hours every morning as we got older, but doing it 24/7 is an overkill... Despite being a good vocal exercise, I am not sure how damaging it is for her vocal chords.
i think at this point her eating disorder is the most damaging thing she's doing.
No, she has always spoken in a form of impression/fake voice, which is actually very stressful on the voice! And HOW would her voice get HIGHER from getting older??! That doesn’t make any sense! And didn’t you see the recent clips of her forgetting to do the voice for a phrase while talking and then picking up the fake voice again? The most recent one was during her podcast or interview with the actor who plays the stalker from You.
@@winxclubstellamusaher voice is getting deeper and with talking higher she wants to make sure her high range is still attainable
Interesting! I did not know this.
Idk, Mariah Carey has a relatively deep speaking voice, but still has no problem hitting her whistle notes 🤷🏽♀️
OMG, you are hillarious! What an amazing episode - thank you! It was entertaining AF. Especially loved the part about Arriana and Spongebob LMAO and the role play with the dolls was epic
This is the closest im getting to watching Wicked, thank you!
Same. Maybe some day I'll be sitting at home, when it's on Netflix or something, and I'll try to watch it out of curiosity, but the chances of me going to a theater full of people to see it is near 0%.
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Yeah me too.. idk what the hype is about. The visual quality alone and Ariana Grande just being Ariana Grande looking didn't make me curious
@@aimeeinkling that's too much effort for me 😂
I love how Michelle has a doll for every situation
I lost it when SpongeBob was looking sadly into the dollhouse window while the witches did their thing 😭😭🤣. The edits are top tier 👌
That barbie doll impersonates Ariana better than anyone Ive ever seen 😂
I think Ethan & Ariana are matched in looks, personality & attitude! They deserve each other!
So eff his wife and kid?
@kandi668 I'm pretty sure that comment was a dig rather than a compliment. Lol
I thought they broke up (like three months after their affair went viral).
@@kandi668 they deserve wayyyyy better. Plus OP was insulting Ethan lol
@@kandi668 his family better without him he should be forced to pay alimony and child support but stay away from them his wife deserves a sexier nicer man with a big D
I think at least Arianna’s look is to look, sound and act childlike as much as possible so she doesn’t loose relevance. Probably a warped adaptation of loosing her childhood acting. It’s creepy and honestly alarming how much she portrays a 13 year old
If any of the hints in "I'm glad my mom died" are true, Ariana has always been a diva and has been abused as a child/teen actor.
Thinking about it, don’t they say that going through childhood abu5e and an ED kinda freezes you in a childlike state..? As much as I cringe at her latest persona & accent, I do feel bad for her and everything she’s gone through that we do and don’t know for sure.
@@GrungeGalacticawhat kind of abuse did she suffer as a child? She was a rich and privileged stage kid. She didn’t suffer nothing except her parents divorcing, which millions of kids deal with everyday.
@@AnneettaLife I think you have missed the child abuse accusations made against Nickelodeon, the place where she worked as minor.
I think Ariana is creepy af. I only found out about her existence a few months ago (I'm not the target audience) but her eyes Look perpetually bored and the Rest ... Alien. Idk ... I can't really say why, but she physically repells me...
I love that Cynthia got to just laugh off her mistake with no true apology directly to the creator of the poster edit, who had to suffer through extreme threats and accusations.
“Tee-hee I just had a bad day, silly me!” She only addressed the situation once people called her out for her nonsense. Cynthia is basically Eric Cartman!
Just because you’re talented, doesn’t mean you should be an overly-dramatic nut
exactly, she never even apologized for her rash reaction and still got away with it
You know I think it's inappropriate to compare Cynthia to a fictional character known for his antisemitism, misogyny, & racism...that one time he got a kid to eat his own parents.
Ben Starr who is an actor from the UK and also he played the protagonist in the newest Final Fantasy (he just hosted the golden joystick awards actually) said something along those lines at a con I saw him at during an interview 😂
His dad died and he took three days off work, then came back and had to record lines with his character at his dads grave as his first takes. He said that you need to be professional as an actor and that at the end of the day it is a job and it’s not fair to take things out on other people who are there working.
@TheEverGrowingRosey-333 that isn’t the point of the comparison. what this means is that she didn’t take responsibility for her little outburst and didn’t think it was wrong. just like the character, even if rarely, she only said something because people took notice and didn’t like it. she came to her own defense
So?
If we found out that Ariana goes through so many relationships with men because she's actually gay so she's never really been into them beyond friendship but had to be hetero for her brand like Whitney Houston was forced to be, the world would suddenly make a lot more sense. I'm here for gay Ariana.
I am very PARTICULAR about the people I follow.. babyyyyyyy Michelle has earned and continues to earn my loyalty as a subscriber… PERIOD 😭
Omg!! ♥️♥️♥️
Same
Same, I was reminded today.
Oh, my.
awww, same for me ❤
I’m so glad you brought this up. I saw their photos and they remind me eating-disordered patients. They seem like they are trauma-bonded and likely on drugs (to perform, etc.). It’s sad to see what it takes to be at the “top”.
Especially when….the original and Judy Garland
Reminds me of the movie Black Swan. Where the main character also puts herself in terrible situations just to convince herself she's good enough.
@@bronylexicon8485, I understand what you mean but that isn't really the point of Black Swan.
@@squatchit5700 No? Don't really remember much of it because I only saw it one time when it came out.
First time on the channel. First thing I watched when I woke up. Was not expecting the Miniverse-inspired production. 11/10
Thank you 😂😂😂
Omg you’re such a smart ass, I freaking love you!!!! Thank you for showing how petty these celebrities are!
I thought the SAME thing about the "they are f**king!!!!" Comments. They are two women with "main character syndrome"😂😂 They are destined to either be mortal enemies or THE ABSOLUTE BESTEST OF FRIENDS- NO!!!!! SPIRIT SISTERS!!!!😭😭😭😭 and they play up the friendship as dramatic and as emotional as possible. The hand holding, face touching, constant crying is textbook in the highscool theater community.
The real them comes out in things like the poster incident where their true personality shows (again main character syndrome) but when they get backlash they go on camera and are dainty and "hehe oops!! Sowwy" sweet again.
Excellent vid. It makes perfect sense that these two are crying in all their interviews and clutching each other for reassurance if they're starved half to death. Cynthia's meltdown over the poster makes perfect sense in that context, and she sounds like she's trying to apologise in later interviews. Thank you for such an excellent, well researched and brilliantly entertaining video!
well researched video = making random correlations to EDS and crying even though theres a much clearer explanation that ari has literally been dreaming of this role since her childhood days of broadway and this role for cynthia will catapult her into the mainstream? you guys just love clinging to the more interesting yet convulsive narratives because as you claim they are “entertaining”
I really think Cynthia was just hungry...when she went off about that poster❤😂😅...Michelle stay out of crazy-hunger people's heads😂
Lmfao! Hey I used to compete and know the feeling of losing it over nothing 😂😂😂
I'm currently trying to diet, and I can testify hangry is a thing...
She was HANGRY. Been there.
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@@OOL-UV2o-o-Ozempic
You knOoow.
*Allegedly* lmao
26:57 poor Judy 😢
Yessss!!!! The wizard of Oz is my absolute favorite and I hate this for my Judy!!
What's probably my biggest issue with this movie is its run time....what do you mean it's almost 3h and it's only half of the musical?!! Who's sitting through that only to see a half....at this point just go and see the original musical that's not cut in half and is only 2h max
Edit: The OG musical is also almost 3h but at least it's the entire story and you get breaks in between acts so I still prefer the musical over the movie in that regard
Wow I did not know that there is definitely no way I can watch a six hour movie even in 2 parts. Confirms my worst fears about a musical being drawn out
To be fair, I've heard they're adding in content from the book, and just giving the story more breathing room. I recently rewatched the actual stage show, and I was surprised at how lightning fast the pacing is, especially in the second half.
Plus, act one is basically its own self-contained story, so even if people choose to not go see Part 2, they'll still be left with a satisfying narrative, no frustrating cliffhangers like a lot of the other two part movies that come out recently
Also, the broadway show is nearly 3 hours as well, not 2 😅
Me ❤❤❤ Having read the book and seen the musical twice I will happily sit through it.
Because money. Someone crunched the numbers and they make more splitting it into 2 parts. People will definitely come though because they mass marketed it as just one movie and they’ll get enough people committed to come back for part 2
That comment from Cynthia about the edited poster just shows that she has low self esteem and no self worth which is all a struggle in itself. When someone is not sure of themselves, everything is so horribly offensive. Things dont have power until you give them power.
I hope that she is able to build herself up in a way that an edited poster or whatever else does not make her feel so angry and hurt.
And how do you think the person who made the fan edit was feeling with the response Cynthia, an actress with a lead role in an upcoming Hollywood film, is feeling?
Thank you. Finally seeing a comment with some degree of empathy and compassion.
I mean, I get it. She probably has been erased so many times in Hollywood that she’s extra sensitive to it. I mean it’s Hollywood. Let’s be honest we know it’s happening.
Not saying her outrage was appropriate. Because the fan doesn’t know that.
@@HulaMask Even if the fan did know how erased she felt, it's clear that their art was meant to be a compliment, so they likely would have done it anyway since the average person would be thinking about the poster quality as a whole and believe their work was going to lift her up, not thinking "erasing her eyes will trigger her trauma." As many have pointed out, that stylistic is well known in art. Cynthia's the one with the outlying opinion...one that the average person wouldn't come to even if they empathized with her past grievances.
@@cryptic1999 they didn't say they don't care about the fan, they said they hope Cynthia grows. this is like when someone says "I like pancakes" and you come in like "waffles are not trash!!" like nobody said that homie
I think if they ate normally, they wouldn't all be so hangry, sad, crying... There's quite seriously something to say about their extreme weight losses though, as it can affect serotonin levels.