This old guides were very good. I remember the fury warrior done in Ulduar and the narrator says "we will update it if necesary" and it wasn't necesary
Right now I am working on getting better at tanking in bear form. I'm getting closer to getting the gear I need. My main problem is I can't hold aggro. I'm assuming this is due to the fact that someone in my group has more threat than me or are able to pull them off me. I found this video helpful and I'm going to continue practicing to bear tank. Thank you!
i know that but i assume this guide is for druids new to tanking so the 2 advices a) start with demo and b) don't gem /agi for hit/dodg but for stam gear are not working for newcomers or for il200 gear.bear gear start to shine later on in regards to other tanks. It will be more helpful if he had demonstrated aoe pulling.
I don't recall him ever saying not to use maul. In fact he said you will pretty much always want to have maul up. I'll add to this though there are some bosses in Uld that you dont want to maul everytime as you cant build up rage fast enough.
An Exellent guide for raid tanking, however in most cases for heroic tanking, swipe is more than enough to hold threat, and if yove got a problem, glyph maul. druids complaining of tanks pulling off them should be aware that they do not possess anywhere close to the AoE threat of any of the tanking classes, if both tanks are in simular gear (including weapons) single target threat shouldn't be a problem, as said in the video
demo is our weaker threat ability i don't recommend starting with it specially when multitanking unless you and your raid know what you doing. if your healers can keep you up i suggest enrage swipe maul macro and if it's possible berserk mangle.
@skylerruin Okei fair enough. But you got advise on what kind of gear i shoul use? like i have now some gear thats for prot pala,warr and dk. With strength, defence rating and stuff. it's the gear with most stamina and gives dodge rating aswell. Would you go for it? im not sure if that what i really should use :)
@hudders123 If your healers are that worried about ~500 melee damage, then they probably shouldn't be healing that encounter. Look, it's fine to have up. It's less important than Lacerate x5, Mangle or Faerie Fire.
Demo roar should not be the first thing you apply unless you actually have a good shot at dying off the bat. If thats the case, you probably shouldn't be tanking that boss, because you're undergeared. Do the high threat first, and once everything is up, roar.
On fights like general vezax and lord jaraxxus it will significantly and negatively affect your threat. Also on a fight like northrend beasts when icehowl is stunned you want to keep your normal rotation going but you are wasting all your rage by doing nothing but mauling the entire stun, same goes for xt during a tantrium.
kinda strange, the only reason why I'd use FF if I end up running out of rage, which is really rare, and that'd be from me spamming maul a tad much, but still haven't had problems losing threat. and multimob pulls I'm really never running out of rage, spamming swipe and maul.
i got a tank druid with 5.4k gs and 45k health. But sometimes i have shit aggro. i mean it's not possible to keep aggro on multiple mobbs. any advise there? mabye gem agi or expertise?
i never use swipe on single target, i get lacerate to 5/5 on a boss and spamm mangle / maul i mean cmon the " u lose rage u would get with a white swing " really? when u are tanking anything on lvl 80 ur rage bar is nearly full at all times so rage should never be an issue
Ive literally had ppl tell me to not use mangle. Playing on dalaran wow 3.3.5. I always use it tho. This vid is old so I hope someone sees this lol and responds perhaps
@NaRuToCrUsHeR Use your roar etc abilities all the time. Also, I've seen that dps's these days are really cocky and pulls alot and casts aggro-magnetic spells.
I see a lot of comments saying they want a paladin tank. All you paladins out there, do you truly think you need one? Our rotation is the easiest out there and you damn well know it. We have 0 threat problems, 0 damage problems, and 0 utility problems.
Since WotLK Launch; Stack stam, no rage talents like omen of clarity and this rotation... /startattack /castsequence reset=target Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Lacerate, Lacerate /cast Maul /cancelaura Hand of Protection
Look for ht user here TribunalXhunter he is only beastmaster and has a dual spec for a specialised BM tank spec that allowed him slowly to solo UK regular. ( yes he did die a few times while learning but he did it still ) Make sure you get the brewfest stam trinkets because they will help alot!!!
@MrShadowkid95 I'd rather see a sense of professionalism, it lets you know that you're taking reasonable talants that will improve your gameplay, thus bringing more enjoyment to your play-time.
hey im going feral tank and im already an epic healerso im just going around in groups saying "im only taking feral tank gear, and if u dont let me then u can look for another healer who can actually not fail and can down the confessor for the next half hour :) " so of course every1 agrees (on my server its hard to find a tank or heals who wants to do a dungeun and didnt just hit lvl 80 5mins ago...) and today i got marrow strike :) and im wondering... what should i enchant on it... plz reply.
Dude just enter with swipe, While you press swipe keep maul up and keep doing the same thing if you lose aggro use growl or feral fearie.. You can use lacerate on trash but you just wasting rage. I use lacerate + mangle on bosses so dps can do more dps without tanking my aggro out
im not gunna lie, when i tank as bear (and i rarely do, as i raid as boomkin) i seriously pretty much faceroll. i make sure lacerate is at 5 stacks, and make sure mangle is used on CD and what not, but i tank fine w/o a rotation lol. i tanked ulduar 10 man in mostly naxx10 and 5 man heoric gear fine, held threat like a champ against geared as fuck dps. i dunno how people have threat issues, i dont lol and i havent upgraded my gear at all.
My main is a druid and although I find this guide complete, it is in my opinion overly complicated. You can do your tanking duty without coodinating abilities down to the second.
I'm sorry, but I'm NOT taking advice from a Bear Tank that DOESN'T use Barkskin every 1min. Again 1min CD and reduces ALL dmg takin by 20% for 12sec. Totally worth it.Sorry, again, but I never lose threat by ONLY Faerie Fire, Charge, Swipe/Maul spam, Glyph of Maul hits 2 targets too. And IF I lose aggro, just Growl. If you're in a Raid and Rogues aren't using TotT, they fail, same for any class, that it's available to, not using Aggro reducing abilities, but IMO they shouldn't have to either
This old guides were very good. I remember the fury warrior done in Ulduar and the narrator says "we will update it if necesary" and it wasn't necesary
you can use maul anny time you want it doesnt affect other skills
Right now I am working on getting better at tanking in bear form. I'm getting closer to getting the gear I need. My main problem is I can't hold aggro. I'm assuming this is due to the fact that someone in my group has more threat than me or are able to pull them off me. I found this video helpful and I'm going to continue practicing to bear tank. Thank you!
WTF is the Death's Demise title?
i know that but i assume this guide is for druids new to tanking so the 2 advices a) start with demo and b) don't gem /agi for hit/dodg but for stam gear are not working for newcomers or for il200 gear.bear gear start to shine later on in regards to other tanks. It will be more helpful if he had demonstrated aoe pulling.
I don't recall him ever saying not to use maul. In fact he said you will pretty much always want to have maul up.
I'll add to this though there are some bosses in Uld that you dont want to maul everytime as you cant build up rage fast enough.
Perfect! I've been looking for something like this for a while now. Thanks
What addon is it that show what abillity u should use next time?
It seems awesome. The guide is a big help for me that just have start tank as druid
Whats the addon for showing the attacks which to use? The small cube in his screen, around the middle of his screen..
Thanks for the video! Makes me a little geeked to try out feral now.
Great guide what is that addon u use in middle of screen for your mangle/ff cds?
will you guys be releasing similar video guides in the future for other classes/roles ?
ignore OoC procs, half the time you won't need it anyway, just keep the rotation going.
The volume is fine for me.
An Exellent guide for raid tanking, however in most cases for heroic tanking, swipe is more than enough to hold threat, and if yove got a problem, glyph maul.
druids complaining of tanks pulling off them should be aware that they do not possess anywhere close to the AoE threat of any of the tanking classes, if both tanks are in simular gear (including weapons) single target threat shouldn't be a problem, as said in the video
Any chance you can post that Macro you where useing ??
demo is our weaker threat ability i don't recommend starting with it specially when multitanking unless you and your raid know what you doing.
if your healers can keep you up i suggest enrage swipe maul macro and if it's possible berserk mangle.
what addon is that that displays the yellow rage points?
What is the add-on or interface option that shows+crit, dodge etc. on the weapon tooltip, around 9:00.
Just bind maul to everything Ffs
@skylerruin Okei fair enough. But you got advise on what kind of gear i shoul use? like i have now some gear thats for prot pala,warr and dk. With strength, defence rating and stuff. it's the gear with most stamina and gives dodge rating aswell. Would you go for it? im not sure if that what i really should use :)
@hudders123 If your healers are that worried about ~500 melee damage, then they probably shouldn't be healing that encounter. Look, it's fine to have up. It's less important than Lacerate x5, Mangle or Faerie Fire.
Can u do a paladin tanking rotation video?
How do you make dat 1 macro button And you press it on and on you get mangle mangle lacerate ferier fire mangle How ?
What do I blow OoC procs on? Or do I just go through my rotation as normal and my next global is just free?
i'm nearly always maxed out on rage, sooo, does it really matter that maul costs more than 10 rage?
err he told you why you'd use it. when your general abliities are on cooldown and when lacerate has 5 stacks you use it to fill out the gap
Demo roar should not be the first thing you apply unless you actually have a good shot at dying off the bat. If thats the case, you probably shouldn't be tanking that boss, because you're undergeared. Do the high threat first, and once everything is up, roar.
wow. you really have to do one of these videos for combat rogues
On fights like general vezax and lord jaraxxus it will significantly and negatively affect your threat. Also on a fight like northrend beasts when icehowl is stunned you want to keep your normal rotation going but you are wasting all your rage by doing nothing but mauling the entire stun, same goes for xt during a tantrium.
@rocflpn08 Zerging stamina is only for those that are very quickly progressing through new content, like the guild "Paragon".
kinda strange, the only reason why I'd use FF if I end up running out of rage, which is really rare, and that'd be from me spamming maul a tad much, but still haven't had problems losing threat. and multimob pulls I'm really never running out of rage, spamming swipe and maul.
i dont get why he doesnt use maul?
thanks for the guide
Update please ... patch 3,3 changed lots of things
i got a tank druid with 5.4k gs and 45k health. But sometimes i have shit aggro. i mean it's not possible to keep aggro on multiple mobbs. any advise there? mabye gem agi or expertise?
He's not using it because he'd run out of rage on a test dummy, he's still telling u to use it as much as possible on a boss
I like this Type of Vids, keep them comming
all your gear is stam-gemmed?
That's what I thought too. Please someone explain why to use it in a tank rotation.
That came with one of the new patchs i think
i never use swipe on single target, i get lacerate to 5/5 on a boss and spamm mangle / maul
i mean cmon the " u lose rage u would get with a white swing " really? when u are tanking anything on lvl 80 ur rage bar is nearly full at all times so rage should never be an issue
Ive literally had ppl tell me to not use mangle. Playing on dalaran wow 3.3.5. I always use it tho. This vid is old so I hope someone sees this lol and responds perhaps
@Ciderhelm How much dmg does your armor reduces?
Hey this is pretty damn cool. Hopefully other videos of this nature someday for the different classes.
bear tanking is macroing maul to every normal move (there's like 4 of them :O) and faceroll your keyboard? that's how i do it at least
My brain hurts now..
had to turn the volume up really loud to hear.
@NaRuToCrUsHeR Use your roar etc abilities all the time. Also, I've seen that dps's these days are really cocky and pulls alot and casts aggro-magnetic spells.
what do most tanks stack? stamina... stamina... stamina...
I see a lot of comments saying they want a paladin tank.
All you paladins out there, do you truly think you need one? Our rotation is the easiest out there and you damn well know it. We have 0 threat problems, 0 damage problems, and 0 utility problems.
Effective Health is the best stat for a Tank, stack Stam
WTB better sound I have it up to full blast and I still can't really hear
@KrmtDfrog no but its going to help the healers
i just realized, since when are you alli? i remember you being a tauren
where's the soothing music!
@vuniqirinor
Have a 6k Hunter and Rogue go against a 5.5k Bear Tank, and they don't use MD/FD or ToT, they will EASILY take aggro.
WHEN YOU USEING BERSAKING, YOU CAN ALSO KEEP USEING MAUL!!!
Just keep clicking on maul and mangle.
Since WotLK Launch; Stack stam, no rage talents like omen of clarity and this rotation...
/startattack
/castsequence reset=target Mangle (Bear)(), Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Faerie Fire (Feral), Lacerate, Mangle (Bear)(), Lacerate, Lacerate, Lacerate
/cast Maul
/cancelaura Hand of Protection
good video this helps me out a lot. Thanks!
awesome guide m8, so happy I'm prot warr atm xP
they have one for tanking.
Look for ht user here TribunalXhunter he is only beastmaster and has a dual spec for a specialised BM tank spec that allowed him slowly to solo UK regular. ( yes he did die a few times while learning but he did it still )
Make sure you get the brewfest stam trinkets because they will help alot!!!
i just smash my fist on the key board while tanking occasionaly i have to chase a button that pops off but it works fine for me
@fiskisdabajs
feral anything marrowstrike is amazing.
@MrShadowkid95 I'd rather see a sense of professionalism, it lets you know that you're taking reasonable talants that will improve your gameplay, thus bringing more enjoyment to your play-time.
Excellent vid, thanks. Always wondered how to play a bear :D
Darksend and ciderhelm and lore for the fricking win have them do movies xD
yes it is, and it drops off the confesor
nice i dont use a druid good info i use pally and war for tanking but if i had a druid it would be a healer
If you're having threat problems, I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems, and threat ain't one
Fail. FF is Boosting Treath Gain by ALOT, it also boosts DSP in early raids/HC. So if you want to keep agro, FF is a nice addition.
Itz a idol that procs bonus agility there are different ones dont kno which one he has
Cool vid!
no maul in basic rotation? O.O the hell?
hey im going feral tank and im already an epic healerso im just going around in groups saying "im only taking feral tank gear, and if u dont let me then u can look for another healer who can actually not fail and can down the confessor for the next half hour :) "
so of course every1 agrees (on my server its hard to find a tank or heals who wants to do a dungeun and didnt just hit lvl 80 5mins ago...) and today i got marrow strike :) and im wondering... what should i enchant on it... plz reply.
make A Guide To Warrior tank and DPS :D plz
What do u call a dead tank without a shield? Deathknight - every real tank has either a shield or fur.
its the t8 feral set bonus, gives u that muhc:P
Dude just enter with swipe, While you press swipe keep maul up and keep doing the same thing if you lose aggro use growl or feral fearie.. You can use lacerate on trash but you just wasting rage. I use lacerate + mangle on bosses so dps can do more dps without tanking my aggro out
yes
thx
@NaRuToCrUsHeR Have a rogue or hunter transfer threat to u and get a good weap.
Are you deaf? Maul is like heroic strike, you queue it with other abilities to generate more threat per special ability used.
If you would've listened, he told you why he's using it.
thats because your tanking heroic doungens. not 25 ToC hardmodes....
thank you for the vid
@KrmtDfrog true
im not gunna lie, when i tank as bear (and i rarely do, as i raid as boomkin) i seriously pretty much faceroll. i make sure lacerate is at 5 stacks, and make sure mangle is used on CD and what not, but i tank fine w/o a rotation lol.
i tanked ulduar 10 man in mostly naxx10 and 5 man heoric gear fine, held threat like a champ against geared as fuck dps. i dunno how people have threat issues, i dont lol and i havent upgraded my gear at all.
blackdragonflight, look them up on amory
My main is a druid and although I find this guide complete, it is in my opinion overly complicated. You can do your tanking duty without coodinating abilities down to the second.
if your having threat problems i feel bad for you son i got 99 problems but threat ent 1.
should be "rating buster"
Why skip maul.. in raid u allways got rage up... so
I'm sorry, but I'm NOT taking advice from a Bear Tank that DOESN'T use Barkskin every 1min. Again 1min CD and reduces ALL dmg takin by 20% for 12sec. Totally worth it.Sorry, again, but I never lose threat by ONLY Faerie Fire, Charge, Swipe/Maul spam, Glyph of Maul hits 2 targets too. And IF I lose aggro, just Growl. If you're in a Raid and Rogues aren't using TotT, they fail, same for any class, that it's available to, not using Aggro reducing abilities, but IMO they shouldn't have to either
You get it from killing yogg with 0 keepers helping.
the science guy?
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@MrShadowkid95 Lol I actually prefer it for some reason.
WTB epic tankspot music