Why Does Salvation Matter Now? | Thinking Through Salvation | Episode 9
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2023
- For the final video in our series “Thinking Through Salvation,” we revisit our opening assumptions about the link between salvation and common conceptions of heaven. If our standard idea of an other-wordly, disembodied heaven isn’t the biblical picture, is there anything wrong with hoping for something of that sort? What might we be missing out on by concentrating on that picture?
THINKING THROUGH SALVATION
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Words can’t express my gratitude for this life changing series. I am the daughter of a Baptist preacher…”saved” since age 5. After being diagnosed with cancer 8 yrs ago my foundation of faith began to crack. I wasn’t sure if/when I died that I would really go to “heaven”. Since that day,8 yrs ago, I have been on a soul wrenching spiritual journey. The number of hours I have spent reading the Bible,listening to sermons, praying, and seeking counsel would blow a sane persons mind. I got tangled up in Calvinistic theology which convinced me even more that perhaps, even though I wanted to accept Jesus and follow Him, that maybe I just couldn’t because He didn’t choose me. My life spiraled into a deep, anxiety filled existence…living in constant fear of death and hell. Mr.Wright, you have made sense of so much chaos. God led me to Tim Mackie, then you and nothing I have read, studied, listened to up to this point made sense. Tonight, my soul feels at peace. It all makes sense now. Eternally grateful. ❤
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. We're grateful to hear how N.T. Wright's teachings have encouraged you to think in ways that bring life. It's a joy to share this journey with you. Your feedback means a lot to us. --NTW Online Team
In the age of dispensationalism, this is a very important message about the kingdom of God.
Dr Wright's teaching takes away my thought of "self-absorbed-easy- salvation-into-heaven" and replaces it with what salvation entails for the Messiah's people now, whilst eagerly waiting for the final resurrection.
Such clarity of thought about God’s promise of salvation and restoration for humankind! Dr Wright gives significant insight concerning eschatological hope, beautifully presented and clearly stated!
I’d love to hear Dr. Wright’s thoughts on what it might mean when we speak of Jesus “returning” or “the second coming”. A super-natural event revealed to a natural world? It was imminent in the New Testament. Here we are in 2023. Thank you for your posts.
Wow! So amazing. I do not know how you cover all of this so succinctly in one place, but thank you! I am so glad to be a stone that my Lord is working on, so He can fit me in the right place to build up this whole body of the church, which is here to share God’s love and salvation to the whole world! ✨✨✨💫💫💫❤️🔥❤️🔥🙏💛
So exciting! Thank you!
Love the quote from William Temple.
Enjoyed this Salvation series, easy to listen to, well presented.
Thank you so much. We're happy to hear that you enjoyed the Salvation series. We appreciate your support, and we're excited to bring you more engaging series in the future!
Thank you. Yes, Heaven is our home, but there is ultimate joy in experiencing Heaven in us now.
That is a message of hope. Yes. The church is there for those outside the church. We members are to build for the Kingdom. In the now for the kingdom to come on earth as it is in heaven.
And then we don’t worry about who is in and who is out, but trust that God will use our participation where and when and how it is needed.
I often think it is far more about trusting, then believing.
So nowadays I say I trust in God, not I believe in God
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Meaning all our hope rests on Him. Our salvation rests on Him. My trust is in Him, or I trust on Him. Believing in Him is believing on Him. Believing that Jesus is my savior or believing on Jesus for salvation. You can say the same thing in different ways. As long as the meaning comes from the heart with each saying. “For with the heart one believes & is justified & with the mouth one confesses & is saved.”
It's absolutely amazing. Thank you, Dr. Wright.
Absolutely so helpful. It opens up the world of meaning in God’s kingdom and our place in it. Thank you!
Thank you!!!!
❤ Amazing!
"New creation" akin to Bonhoeffers the "new humanity" via Christ.
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Can Dr. Wright please speak on how he views The Millennial Kingdom? ❤
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Can you point out which bible scriptures in correct context show that all this will come to an end in the future,
I have been blessed by this salvation series. Yet, I have one question. How would you deal with the identity of Christians written in 1 Peter 1:1 as sojourners? I get your point which encourage people to avoid escapism. But Isn't there also some benefits in escapism also? Not to be amoral on earth but to have some hope, some transcendent hope in eternity in heaven, not only on earth. Often, I sense that you are insisting that everything will come back to on earth and there will be nothing left in the heaven.
Our team loves reading the interaction with the videos and the concepts, thank you.
The value of holding onto some transcendent hope in eternity is significant. In considering the New Testament's emphasis on bodily resurrection, how do you see resurrection fitting into the concept of eternity in heaven?
Exploring the shift in understanding from the traditional view of heaven to the New Creation, where heaven and earth join together, opens up possibilities. God initially created humans in connection to the earth, intending them to reflect His image in the world and entrusting them with the vocation to govern the earth as his stewards. How might our understanding of hope change if we envision a resurrected and redeemed earth, with resurrected and redeemed humans fulfilling their intended purpose? And how would this differ from the hope typically associated with "heaven"?
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People are having to leave parts of South Africa because of the violence
How has the church been instrumental in the initiation of salvation on Earth, particularly in relation to the end of apartheid, the abolition of slavery, working hand in hand with war and bombs? In this context, can individuals who are not Christians, such as atheists who contribute to ending immoral practices, be considered as part of the kingdom of God, for instance, a Muslim who helps feed the poor?
@dynamicloveministries334 Thank you for your excellent thoughts and questions, our team at N.T. Wright Online appreciates gracious dialogue. In N.T. Wright's online course, "Suprised by the God of Hope" there is a quote that touches on one of your questions. In that course, Wright says, "We will discover, because God's New Creation is new creation, that there are many people in the world outside the church who, following the best dreams they have of justice, and beauty, and freedom, and truth, are actually in all sorts of ways working in the same directions as we are. We can link arms with them, we can make partnerships." We welcome your thoughts on this or any other topic. You can post further reflections here: www.admirato.org/products/communities/discussion
@@NTWrightOnline Thanks. I will see you in the discussion room.
Christ has already been resurrected from the dead for my sake, and I believe that I will also resurrect after I die. This is faith in the God that saves me from death, and does what he says (1 Cor 15:1-4).
Is creation a prison or an untended garden? Seems to me our understanding of salvation emerges from one or the other.