Nintendo Sues Palworld - Here's Why I Hope They Lose

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  • Nintendo is suing Pocketpair, the creator of Palworld for patent infringement and it could get bloody. Here's what we know so far.
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  • @DestinL
    @DestinL  9 днів тому +8

    Do you think Nintendo will win? Let me know and please consider subscribing! ua-cam.com/users/thedestinchannel
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    • @likeaboss3160
      @likeaboss3160 9 днів тому +4

      I hope not, I love palworld.

    • @Jason_Bover9000
      @Jason_Bover9000 9 днів тому +3

      ​@@likeaboss3160same reason now im not buying a Nintendo palworld for life

    • @reiswindy
      @reiswindy 9 днів тому

      If Capcom won a patent lawsuit about having the controller vibrate in response to game mechanics, then it's almost a given that Nintendo will win this.

    • @frankkent5567
      @frankkent5567 8 днів тому

      Yes.

    • @likeaboss3160
      @likeaboss3160 8 днів тому

      @@frankkent5567 So if Nintendo wins do you think they will take palworld off the store or not make it available :/?

  • @malikfoxen2045
    @malikfoxen2045 9 днів тому +35

    The patents that Nintendo has secured are pretty broad,, possibly too broad. A Nintendo win stifles creativity to a ridiculous degree.

    • @kampfer91
      @kampfer91 9 днів тому

      Trademark of crooked lawyer at work , they make everything super vague so they can use it or bail out from it if thing not go theirs way .

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 3 дні тому

      @@malikfoxen2045 nope look up craftopia the original game mechanics idea for palworld. That game came out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics and patent rights. This lawsuit is dumb

    • @malikfoxen2045
      @malikfoxen2045 3 дні тому

      @@outlawstar2090 I think you were responding to the wrong person, or didnt understand what I said.

  • @joantonio6331
    @joantonio6331 9 днів тому +26

    I will patent character putting one leg in front of the other to walk and sue anyone who dare infringe this

    • @TRVPHAUS
      @TRVPHAUS 7 днів тому

      sure you will poor boy.

  • @mikevegas87
    @mikevegas87 9 днів тому +12

    Geez. Corporate greed knows no limits. Fucking disgusting. I get the characters etc but mechanics, phew.

  • @kidlimitless
    @kidlimitless 9 днів тому +29

    I Will Definitely Buy Palworld Now. Nintendo Sucks

    • @TheSpeedfoever
      @TheSpeedfoever 9 днів тому +1

      No Nintendo is better come on

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 8 днів тому +8

      @@TheSpeedfoever they may have great games but this crossed a line that should not have been crossed

    • @Praying_Light_Force
      @Praying_Light_Force 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@TheSpeedfoever You're A Fascist, Just Like Hideki_Tojo.

    • @Coco1477
      @Coco1477 6 днів тому +1

      ​@@TheSpeedfoeverstop licking their toes, they don't care about you

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 6 днів тому +1

      @@TheSpeedfoever No, Nintendo really isn't better.

  • @fishyfinthing8854
    @fishyfinthing8854 9 днів тому +20

    I find patent suing for a game mechanic is a scummy law practice.
    It's like making a mine field and hope someone trigger even if they didn't even mean to.
    I hope Nintendo will lose more than they can get from this law suit.

  • @VampireGUK
    @VampireGUK 9 днів тому +72

    Perhaps if Nintendo made a good Pokémon game and stopped regurgitating the same rubbish, then there would have not been a market for a new "Catch a monster" game in the first place.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 9 днів тому +13

      It isn't even on the same system it isn't the same market

    • @s0sa1ty
      @s0sa1ty 9 днів тому +1

      not true lol

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 9 днів тому +3

      @@VampireGUK also what logic is that PlayStation and Xbox players can't play Pokemon so they would want something of that genre anyway regardless of pokemon

    • @TheSpeedfoever
      @TheSpeedfoever 9 днів тому +2

      They already made good ones even ZA is gonna be awesome

    • @VampireGUK
      @VampireGUK 9 днів тому +4

      @@lightdarksoul2097 Sorry my logic is, that the last few Pokemon have been a bit rubbish and samey in my view. I appreciate there is a massive market for Xbox, PS and PC for a Pokemon type game and Palworld has filled that void. However the platform that they do pokemon on ie the switch, they are lacking any real innovation, I love the fact Palworld has filled a space for other platforms, but Nintendo Pokemon games currently are lacking and I think Palworld has obviously made them worry.

  • @Ghotet
    @Ghotet 8 днів тому +4

    They won't lose. We shouldn't be allowing them to patent game mechanics. That's the real problem here.

    • @zeng58
      @zeng58 3 дні тому

      Explain how they won't lose

  • @drtyboy
    @drtyboy 8 днів тому +3

    The friendly, smiling face of Myamoto, as he stands knee deep in scumbaggery.
    Nintendo has been involved in so many lawsuits, eventually they have to lose, i hope this will be the time.

  • @0981-o4s
    @0981-o4s 6 днів тому +2

    私はPalworldの味方です。
    日本の特許の問題点は、誰でも考えつくようなシステムが含まれている点とそれらが大量にあることです。
    だから、面白いゲームを作ろうとすると必ず何かの特許に抵触することになります。

  • @MrNikoSrb
    @MrNikoSrb 9 днів тому +7

    Destin you should have had a chat with someone with Patent law knowledge because I don't think you're knowledgeable enough like saying stuff like " no one can use this idea forever etc " man patents are not forever. Patents generally have a limited duration, and after that period, the invention enters the public domain, meaning anyone can use it without permission from the patent holder.

    • @Soroosh.S83
      @Soroosh.S83 9 днів тому +1

      Stfu 20 years is too much is more than two generation it takes forever not to mention it was public domain at first you didn't made anything out of the thin air you probably got inspired by real life and implemented in game

    • @theredknight9314
      @theredknight9314 8 днів тому

      @@Soroosh.S83cope and seethe

    • @Kloyster2010
      @Kloyster2010 6 днів тому +1

      japan laws are different so you need one with japan patent law knowledge

  • @ATAndreiThomas
    @ATAndreiThomas 4 дні тому +1

    As much as I Love Nintendo and Pokemon but I will NOT GOING TO TOLERATE THEIR BULLYING TACTICS against small indie gaming companies like Pocketpair and Palworld and suing them for patent infringement, I've already downloaded Palworld on my PS5 to show some Love and support to Pocketpair.

  • @BeersYourFriend
    @BeersYourFriend 8 днів тому +1

    it took 28 years to patent an animal going into a ball? it took 28 years to patent a ball being thrown with an animal coming out of a ball? it took 28 years to patent animals fighting other animals in a video game? this is so ridiculous. Edit coming up on 3 decades in 2 years...

  • @livingart2405
    @livingart2405 6 днів тому +1

    Nintendo is gonna get a lot of hate for being so petty, they're just mad because they didn't create Pokeworld first. And there were other similar games like Digimon...

  • @Kakachi07
    @Kakachi07 6 днів тому +1

    Nintendo is so blinded by its own ego that it can’t see the obvious pr damage this lawsuit will do to them. There is absolutely zero scenario where they are the good guy in this situation. All these companies are so obsessed with business that they forgot what gets them money in the first place.

    • @ausgod538
      @ausgod538 2 дні тому

      ??? Nintendo has been like this for decades and it never affected them lmao the internet isn't the world just look at their sales

    • @Kakachi07
      @Kakachi07 2 дні тому

      @@ausgod538 You can only con someone so long before they stop falling for your BS. It's not so easy to hide their BS these days like it was decades ago. Regardless of your opinion or mine, this is not going to go well for Nintendo regardless of whether they win or lose that is fact, there are people willing to stop buying their products over this and that is bad for business if you are a Business like they are. And like you said, the Internet isn't the world, there are dozens of millions of people that keep their opinions to themselves. There will be a time where this lawsuit comes back to bite them in the ass.

  • @stuartmcfarlane6705
    @stuartmcfarlane6705 7 днів тому +1

    Nintendo and Pokémon need to step out from their little bubble of “nice, family friendly” games and develop games that can challenge AAA games globally. Imagine an actual Pokémon version of palworld, with big money behind it? Not a little child running around in shorts with a friendly rival doing lessons.

    • @alexs29
      @alexs29 5 днів тому

      Why do that when they can still make big money with cheap, indie-level games on shitty hardware though.

  • @TheTimePostChannel
    @TheTimePostChannel 6 днів тому

    I knew this day would come, pocket pair wasn't cautious enough for this sort of thing

  • @Coco1477
    @Coco1477 6 днів тому

    Playstation could literally win their fans back right now if they joined palworld and defended this, nintendo likes to pick on the smaller guys its about time somebody humbles them.

  • @TheSoxor123
    @TheSoxor123 9 днів тому +1

    If Nintendo's next console isn't BC then I see the downfall of Nintendo.

  • @MatthewMoreau
    @MatthewMoreau 8 днів тому

    That is just utterly bullshit. I hope Nintendo wins.

  • @Sparticulous
    @Sparticulous 9 днів тому +1

    Boycot switch 2

  • @snip3r416
    @snip3r416 6 днів тому

    Everyone saying this is dirty this shouldn’t be happening, but my question is
    What’s Pokémon’s Nintendo’s damages?
    Don’t get me wrong I love Pokémon we all do but it’s pretty much all the same thing but now if they can make a Pokémon for all platforms that could be a game changer but what is the damages.

  • @The_Wuffler
    @The_Wuffler 5 днів тому

    Any judge worth his grain of alt should throw this shit out.
    Nintendo only damages its own Reputation as a greedy Corporation who holds a MONOPOLY on gaming industry. If Nintendo wins this. Like Ubisoft I am done. No more buying their lame 1 note games that really haven't evolved in the last 20 years. Really wish people would sit down and realize that. Stories are bland, the ideas and mechanics behind their games are bland. Its like re releasing Bethesda's Skyrim over and over again with zero to little change. and in the end Nintendo Pokemon stole their own designs from original Dragon Quest but no one ever looks back on that either.

  • @Toastcat890
    @Toastcat890 9 днів тому

    I hope Sony steps in because it has even more money than Nintendo and might be able to get Nintendo to back down

    • @theredknight9314
      @theredknight9314 8 днів тому +2

      Sony cannot. Because they are not poket pair

  • @jmroz311
    @jmroz311 8 днів тому

    Yeah so annoying. Anyone who plays the game can see it's so different from ANYTHING Nintendo does. If pocket pair loses then that proves there is a huge problem with the legal system. Well a bigger problem than it already is lol.

  • @matthewowens1451
    @matthewowens1451 7 днів тому

    to many lawsuits

  • @ventura1555
    @ventura1555 9 днів тому

    The original dragon quest (and also dragon quest 2, which came out before pokemon) still had monsters in it, whose designs were blatantly ripped off by pokemon. Nintendo is the pot calling the kettle black. SQUARE ENIX should sue Nintendo for stealing their designs. Like products are a thing this would be the equivalent of jif peanut butter suing Skippy because they to were successful selling peanut butter too. Imagine going to the supermarket and only having one option of any product because the company behind them had patents to make them the only provider.

  • @RavagHer
    @RavagHer 9 днів тому +1

    nintendo doesnt sue someone unless they know they can win. let be real throwing a ball to capture a creature and making it yours is something pokemon created and made known. u instantly think pokemon when someone says that to you cuz that doesnt make sense unless ur talking about pokemon. u dont throw a ball to capture a creature and make it yours. u also dont have that ball movement showing capturing process. palword could of gone the throw a lasso and snare a pal to capture it but then it wouldnt be enough pokemon for the "pokemon with guns" fans. come on. its like when everyone took Bethesda's lock picking mini game cuz no one else could make a better one.

  • @Sweet18gee
    @Sweet18gee 9 днів тому

    Good morning, Destin. Great coverage on what’s trending. This may be a spur of the moment type shit….how about a Fire Team Chat video tonight? Bring Paul in the mix. 😅

  • @adrian_veidt
    @adrian_veidt 9 днів тому +42

    Man, pokemon stole from shin megami tensei and Dragon quest. They stole a lot of designs from DQ.
    Yet they act as if they invented this game mechanic

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 2 дні тому

      @adrian_veidt look up craftopia that was made in 2020 and palworld use that game mechanics and the game was meant to be released in 2021 but they postponed it to use unreal engine for amp up the graphics to make it to be released in 2024 but still this is not going to be in Nintendo favor since pocket pair had this patent years before pokemon had their chance to use it lol.

    • @supersaiyan3456
      @supersaiyan3456 День тому +2

      Even the pokeballs where taken from a game called Robotrek, this is complete hypocrisy from them.

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 День тому +1

      @@supersaiyan3456 indeed. But for pocketpair they both games with the same game mechanics that is craftopia in 2020 and palworld which was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to move from unity to unreal engine. They had advertised their game in 2020 and 2021 for palworld and they had this game in development in 2016. Pokemon Arceus started their's in 2018 and bearly got their patent right in 2024, yeah this is far too late for Nintendo to do anything against them and very embarrassing as well.

  • @gregoryrousseau5155
    @gregoryrousseau5155 8 днів тому +58

    "Nintendo has never lost a lawsuit..."
    There is a first time for everything.

    • @reiswindy
      @reiswindy 8 днів тому

      @@gregoryrousseau5155 look into the Emblem Saga lawsuit, Nintendo lost there

    • @Bryanneo1
      @Bryanneo1 8 днів тому +8

      Never forget the Game Genie

    • @focabox5594
      @focabox5594 7 днів тому +6

      Never forget Blockbuster

    • @JeyKorey
      @JeyKorey 6 днів тому +1

      @@Bryanneo1 ah the game genie.

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 2 дні тому

      Look up craftopia that's where palworld game mechanics came from and funny thing is they had that patent first years before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. Also palworld game was meant to be released in 2021 but postponed to upgrade with unreal engine to amp up the graphics which came out in 2024. Yeah this lawsuit won't work lol

  • @David_Cerkez
    @David_Cerkez 9 днів тому +31

    This reminds me of PUBG suing Fortnite.

    • @fishyfinthing8854
      @fishyfinthing8854 9 днів тому +12

      May that history repeat. Scummy law practice should be abolished.

  • @erMKSA
    @erMKSA 9 днів тому +28

    I hope Nitendo loses!!!! I really do, because it will set a very dangerous precedent in the industry. Imagine someone patenting the mechanic where you hit a character in a game and the damage is displayed as a number, it would be crazy!!! This is so wrong!!!

    • @DarkBirgon
      @DarkBirgon 6 днів тому

      Or buy used.

    • @andres20111996
      @andres20111996 4 дні тому

      It's happened before, I don't know why this is news.

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 3 дні тому

      @@erMKSA they won't win palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics that was out in 2022. This lawsuit won't go in their favor. @erMKSA

    • @erMKSA
      @erMKSA 3 дні тому

      @@outlawstar2090 Hopefully, because these laws sometimes don't make any sense.

  • @nightmarearcade2663
    @nightmarearcade2663 9 днів тому +172

    I don't think Nintendo realizes how this is gonna turn out for them if they win. Like if they're actually trying to use their patents to sue this game...what's stopping any other company doing the exact same thing to them and to other companies they are competing with. It's gonna get to the point where the standard genre tropes are suddenly gonna be grounds for a lawsuit if you use them.

    • @kampfer91
      @kampfer91 9 днів тому +36

      I hope a patent war will break out in which every studio , who now realize Nintendo can't be trust with the current honorary system , start to patent any basic game mechanic that Nintendo haven't patented and use it to sue each other who happen to have something that is similar.

    • @gregoryrousseau5155
      @gregoryrousseau5155 8 днів тому +7

      If that happens it will be a complete disaster!

    • @erickeating300
      @erickeating300 8 днів тому +9

      Well PubG sued Fortnite for using their battle royale game mode and they lost because it was a game mode and not a copy of the game.

    • @trevormoney8126
      @trevormoney8126 8 днів тому +6

      @@erickeating300 PubG's developers aren't based on Japan. This is a Japanese issue.

    • @Ghotet
      @Ghotet 8 днів тому +3

      @@erickeating300 PUBG didn't patent it.

  • @joshh_889
    @joshh_889 9 днів тому +11

    Has anyone ever heard of Digimon?

    • @bms2010
      @bms2010 День тому

      Different properties and didgimon was technically first

  • @joantonio6331
    @joantonio6331 9 днів тому +51

    How in hell do those patens even accepted in the first place

    • @seraphlord
      @seraphlord 9 днів тому

      thats what i would like to know... why was this even allowed to begin with... especially after such a long time... like if they did this in the late 90s when the games came out... then maybe.... but the fact that they can patent it 20+ years later? fuck off

    • @theredknight9314
      @theredknight9314 8 днів тому +2

      Thats the point of a patent

    • @MillenniumEarl014
      @MillenniumEarl014 7 днів тому +2

      Money.

    • @0981-o4s
      @0981-o4s 6 днів тому

      ​......and a time.

    • @ErynnDBuck
      @ErynnDBuck 6 днів тому +3

      Bribes.

  • @zerva8142
    @zerva8142 9 днів тому +18

    Everyone seems to be getting caught up on it being a sphere or ball. If you read the patent it doesn't mention this all it says is an item. So it wouldn't matter if it was a ball, a cube or even a net.

    • @azuretiger-kfpmarketingstr6018
      @azuretiger-kfpmarketingstr6018 4 дні тому +1

      Yeah. Considering how many pet monster games are out there now that use something similar, like Coromon, this would be damaging to the genre as a whole. Not to mention how this could extend to other genres like Zelda-likes and various Mario inspired platformers.

  • @bryanmerel
    @bryanmerel 9 днів тому +18

    Now that i think about it...imagine, JUST IMAGINE, If this issue finally put X-Box and Play Station into a truce to joint forces and help Palworld? XD

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 8 днів тому +7

      i would PAY to see that

    • @sirmcpablo7349
      @sirmcpablo7349 8 днів тому +5

      Considering Sony and Microsoft both back pocketpair that may happen

    • @Fenyxclips
      @Fenyxclips 8 днів тому +5

      I am keeping a close eye in hopes this happens.

    • @Kratos7560
      @Kratos7560 6 днів тому +3

      What a divine force of retribution that would be. Given both companies have skin in the game, it might be a great opportunity for them to get some dirt on Nintendo. Maybe Ubisoft should join in since their tower navigation game mechanic was copied from Assasins Creed to Breath of the Wild.

    • @JeyKorey
      @JeyKorey 6 днів тому +2

      @@bryanmerel that’s a PPV event right there.

  • @jurassictyrantkingYT
    @jurassictyrantkingYT 9 днів тому +11

    Basically Nintendo is suing Palworld inorder to get rid of their competition by any means necessary which is very malicious of Nintendo to do considering that this court case seems sus to me, what else does Nintendo gain from suing the developers of Palworld? Let's just be honest Nintendo is more afraid of losing to an actual competitor that is actually making people choose Xbox and PC and possibly very soon PlayStation over Nintendo because people have been asking for a more mature version of Pokemon but obviously they didn't do it so a competitor actually Rises to fill in that Gap, but then Nintendo pretty much goes overboard and decides no we're not going to have competition let's sue them so we can get rid of our competition to shut down the game and force those 23 million players to play Pokemon instead.
    Let's just be honest Nintendo pretty much doesn't want competition at all when it comes to Pokemon so yeah it seems kind of sus when you see what the lawsuit is actually about and to be honest it seems ridiculous and at the same time very suspicious indeed on why Nintendo is suing.

  • @robertwampler6053
    @robertwampler6053 9 днів тому +17

    Change the ball to a cube

    • @geordieryle1237
      @geordieryle1237 6 днів тому

      Nah, don’t think that’s what they’re suing for. It’s the principle of throwing an object at a creature to catch it.

  • @GottiEss
    @GottiEss 9 днів тому +97

    pocketpair made a game where i actually care about my monsters, pokemon lost its spirit years ago

    • @malikfoxen2045
      @malikfoxen2045 9 днів тому +25

      This is true, whenever one of my pals got sick Id always stop what I was doing to make medicine for them, even if I was out exploring, because I didnt want my cute monsters to be depressed.

    • @greschenglin-dz7wj
      @greschenglin-dz7wj 9 днів тому +16

      Heck. The game lets you be diabolical towards them or even people.

    • @JDReC100
      @JDReC100 8 днів тому +14

      @@greschenglin-dz7wj its the great equalizer. it shows the kind of person you really are.

    • @BikiniLongjarhorn
      @BikiniLongjarhorn 6 днів тому

      Pokemon meanwhile to afraid to be a little bit mature​@@JDReC100

    • @MrJinRoh
      @MrJinRoh 6 днів тому

      Pokemon scarlet is the game of the year

  • @crackedblack1410
    @crackedblack1410 9 днів тому +52

    I just wanna make Nintendo lose all their money somehow

  • @treyrachal3013
    @treyrachal3013 9 днів тому +61

    This is terrible I hope Palworld beats Pokemon in the lawsuit

    • @MrJinRoh
      @MrJinRoh 6 днів тому +1

      Then they will get a new court. They copied too much. There is no chance of surviving with this attitude at making games.

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 6 днів тому +3

      @@MrJinRoh Pocket Pair didn't copy shit...except for grass type cinderace, that one is legit the only thing they could get pocket pair on, nothing a simple redesign can't fix though.
      But yeah, no. Nintendo's lawyers checked out palworld before the game launched and gave pocketpair the green light, so this whole "they copied" shit is just that, bullshit, nonsensical, an incorrect statement if you will.

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 3 дні тому

      @@MrJinRoh palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They can't take that way from them

  • @Fydril
    @Fydril 9 днів тому +14

    This is why I stopped supporting Nintendo Years ago. They should not even have made this patent. Notice this was patent was submitted in 2023. After they new about Palworld. Can you patent something that someone else already has developed?

    • @TheIssac1070
      @TheIssac1070 7 днів тому +3

      I believe the patent was submitted in Japan in 2021, while in America it was 2023. And I believe this was specifically for when Legends Arceus was coming out(I could be wrong). Now, the reason the 2021 date is important(if I’m not wrong) is because the lawsuit was filed in Japan, not the US. Either way, it’s a messy situation. I’ll be honest, this is just my opinion, but Pocketpair knew what they were doing with this game, not even trying to hide their “inspiration”however, if they would have used any other shape other than a spherical ball, there would be no lawsuit.

    • @Kakachi07
      @Kakachi07 6 днів тому

      @@TheIssac1070PalWorld was revealed back in 2020 as a teaser trailer with game mechanic footage already.

    • @Fydril
      @Fydril 6 днів тому

      @@TheIssac1070 Thanks for the clarification. I just think that it is so scummy that nintendo has these patents. I know some other game companies do the same. Should not be able to patent game mechanics.

    • @apieceoftoast768
      @apieceoftoast768 5 днів тому

      I gave up on Nintendo the moment they tried putting a digital tollbooth on our own internet.
      They're just lazy now. It's just that they have so much money and fame to be able to continue to.

  • @addidaswguy
    @addidaswguy 9 днів тому +143

    I hope they lose this lawsuit SOO badly. Ever since WB patented the nemesis system I have absolutely despised this practice and Nintendo MUST lose. If they don't, this will snowball and it will affect games forever. Companies will start doing this, and it will hamper game development in a BIG way. F Nintendo.

    • @TheSpeedfoever
      @TheSpeedfoever 9 днів тому +2

      No they must win

    • @hittkid6312
      @hittkid6312 9 днів тому +7

      The thing from Shadow of Mordor? I didn't realize it was such an innovation to be patentable.

    • @addidaswguy
      @addidaswguy 9 днів тому +6

      @@hittkid6312 apparently they can patent a lot of things nowadays unfortunately 😩

    • @infinitysynthesis
      @infinitysynthesis 9 днів тому +1

      @@hittkid6312 That just shows you know nothing about that system. Look it up.

    • @hittkid6312
      @hittkid6312 9 днів тому

      @@infinitysynthesis Game records interaction with enemies and then uses said interaction to make adjustments to the game. Said adjustments were VERY rarely relevant in any ways other than a few dialogue change and some minor gameplay changes like immunity to certain damage types. Never made any of them memorable. Definitely didn't stop making Shadow of Mordor and War being mid games

  • @OfficialSSMunitions
    @OfficialSSMunitions 9 днів тому +91

    Why do i have a feeling that Nintendo will sue the entire gaming industry just by their mere existence.

    • @aviatedviewssound4798
      @aviatedviewssound4798 9 днів тому +4

      They would lose the ability to breathe.

    • @fishyfinthing8854
      @fishyfinthing8854 9 днів тому +9

      If they do, prepare to face many many counter sue.

    • @zappli45
      @zappli45 8 днів тому +10

      They know they cannot do that.
      Pocketpair is a relatively small indie company that has become nintendo's competition.
      And nintendo don't like that, so they're basically maliciously filing a lawsuit in hopes to get rid of the competition.
      I damn well hope nintendo fails.

    • @sarahsturgill9262
      @sarahsturgill9262 8 днів тому +6

      @@zappli45 Sadly Nintendo wins either way. Either Pocket Pair fights and goes bankrupt, or they settle. Nintendo gets money and intimidates smaller companies from coming up with even a remotely similar concept.

    • @zappli45
      @zappli45 8 днів тому +5

      @@sarahsturgill9262 that would highly depend on the lawyers and importantly, the judge.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 5 днів тому +5

    The second a company actually starts competing with them and they throw a fit... They're too afraid to let this monopoly crumble.

  • @LordSerEdwin
    @LordSerEdwin 9 днів тому +7

    Little guy is doing well and the big guy is being a dick about it.

  • @spartacus18954
    @spartacus18954 9 днів тому +68

    fun fact. the developer put out a game called craftopia that used the same exact mechanic. game was released in 2020. a year before nintendo filed any patents.

    • @Ventus777777
      @Ventus777777 9 днів тому +6

      Yes but you don't throw a sphere shaped object in Craftopia. Its diamond shaped and in palworld they behave identically to pokeballs, which was the point. I have always been against Nintendo's penchant for excessive lawsuits, but no matter how I see it, Nintendo may be in the right on this one.

    • @Xparkman30
      @Xparkman30 9 днів тому +25

      ​@@Ventus777777I guess baseball better stop throwing sphere shaped objects as a main part of their sport, otherwise Nintendo might get mad.

    • @Yoshizuyuner
      @Yoshizuyuner 9 днів тому +9

      @@Xparkman30 yeah because you can totally capture other players in a ball while playing baseball

    • @Ventus777777
      @Ventus777777 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@Xparkman30 the better example would have been they better not make another Mario Baseball/Wii Sports game or the MLB would be mad. Which is still a stupid analogy.

    • @spartacus18954
      @spartacus18954 9 днів тому +17

      @@Ventus777777 regardless the mechanic existed prior to 2021. Nintendo waited until the developer made as much money as possible and then sued them. Nintendo will never be in the right. They are a billion dollar company and i couldn't care less for em.

  • @-TriP-
    @-TriP- 8 днів тому +29

    Never forget that Nintendo began life as a Yakuza racket.
    Never forget what Nintendo did to Argonaut Software.

    • @shadowplayer8738
      @shadowplayer8738 6 днів тому +1

      What did they do?

    • @jamesthomas2410
      @jamesthomas2410 6 днів тому

      @@-TriP- and "adult" hotels as wells Nintendo known for far more than just gaming especially in Japan

    • @hamiltondouglas7954
      @hamiltondouglas7954 5 днів тому

      Maybe the plan on losing the battle but winning the war. I mean they could bankrupt the with legal fees in court with lawyers and extending the court time.

  • @likeaboss3160
    @likeaboss3160 9 днів тому +8

    Okay what about ark? You can put your dinosaurs in balls can't you, pretty much. I remember they added that a while back.

    • @matthewmenteer5673
      @matthewmenteer5673 9 днів тому +2

      Palworld is more similar to Ark than Pokémon...
      The pokeball thing is funny, pretty sure square has a game where they capture monsters with cubes.
      There are many games where they capture creatures with throwable traps. It's basically prior art at this point

  • @jamesthomas2410
    @jamesthomas2410 9 днів тому +42

    Just imagine if Nintendo patented platforming or 1ups(extra lives) this is crazy smh

    • @thaneros
      @thaneros 9 днів тому +7

      I wouldn't be surprised if they tried back in the day.

    • @andrewtomashaska4985
      @andrewtomashaska4985 9 днів тому +3

      It wouldn't matter now. Japanese patents last 20 years.

    • @DivineHand125
      @DivineHand125 9 днів тому +2

      Most games use a checkpoint system now so it wouldn't be such a big deal.

    • @jamesthomas2410
      @jamesthomas2410 9 днів тому +2

      @@DivineHand125 it's just the thought of what we think of basic mechanics being weaponized or the possibility of such

    • @kampfer91
      @kampfer91 9 днів тому +1

      @@DivineHand125 But are they the first one to come to a lawfirm and patent it ? Hmm ?

  • @zeekay9941
    @zeekay9941 9 днів тому +59

    I think Nintendo is doing this because this is easier than trying to make better games. Having no competition allows gamefreak to release broken, buggy mess game after game and give a middle finger to everyone wanting them to do better. Having a competitor would force them to actually learn how to program games.

    • @outlawstar2090
      @outlawstar2090 3 дні тому

      @@zeekay9941 yet palworld game mechanics came from craftopia that was out in 2020 way before pokemon did their own open world game mechanics. They will have no choice but to accept that palworld has the right like any other games @zeekay9941

  • @inkdreaper874
    @inkdreaper874 9 днів тому +9

    Nintendo stole the Pokémon idea from Dragon Quest. I guess Dragod Quest didn't have the money to sue Nintendo, or they just didn't care.

    • @bethstockton28
      @bethstockton28 8 днів тому

      Nintendo won't go for company's that ain't competition since both pokemon and dragon quest are both on Nintendo platform games even though there made by different companies which is also why there aiming at palworld right now since its on a completely different platform that rivals Nintendo

  • @mattmanley7118
    @mattmanley7118 9 днів тому +13

    This certainly would set a dangerous precedent if Nintendo were to win really seems like they know they can’t win on copyright grounds so they are going this patent infringement route. Scummy if you ask me.

  • @1982xcalibur
    @1982xcalibur 9 днів тому +5

    Nintendo waited till 2021 to put in the pattern request. The first Pokémon game came out in 1996. They should have tried to pattern it back then if it mattered that much. Hopefully Pocket Pair, Inc can use the fact they waited so long as a defence. Plus Nintendo should not have been able to Patten it cause of such a long delay from when it was first used. Time of it just seems so dirty and is showing Nintendo in a bad light to me.

  • @lazydgsf7429
    @lazydgsf7429 9 днів тому +46

    People will just keep kissing Nintendo’s mediocre ass. We will be doomed to Nintendo’s one cartoon aesthetic and awful stories.

    • @alexmaxwell3708
      @alexmaxwell3708 8 днів тому +4

      just like splatoon's story modes. hardly that impactful. just petty and lack of contents and missing potentials.

    • @oldtype45234
      @oldtype45234 8 днів тому +1

      The silent majority disagrees with you, tick tock!

    • @andyfox4484
      @andyfox4484 8 днів тому

      Nah, i won't. I don't care about their shit games they never seeimg my money again.

    • @Mario123007
      @Mario123007 8 днів тому +1

      You know in Japan there's people who dont like Nintendo also dislike how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit right? Most ytber never report how Palworld reacts to the lawsuit and be on their side when all they do is try to play victim on twitter. Which doesn't go well with Japanese gamers.

    • @dumkunt6869
      @dumkunt6869 6 днів тому

      ​@@Mario123007nintendrone detected, opinion discarded.

  • @anthonyduffy6953
    @anthonyduffy6953 7 днів тому +7

    Atari should sue nintendo for stealing their jump mechanic

    • @andres20111996
      @andres20111996 4 дні тому +1

      In which Atari game can you jump? I'm not asking to refute you haha Ironically the first game I know where you can jump is Donkey Kong haha that's why I ask, I got curious

    • @anthonyduffy6953
      @anthonyduffy6953 4 дні тому

      @@andres20111996 steeplechase - 1975

    • @anthonyduffy6953
      @anthonyduffy6953 3 дні тому

      @@andres20111996 steeplechase - 1975

  • @SinbadNaiver
    @SinbadNaiver 7 днів тому +3

    This is officially making me hate nintendo more and more.

  • @GrimTeacup
    @GrimTeacup 9 днів тому +5

    Unfortunately I do think Nintendo has enough of a case to bury them in legal fees or at least make them so miserable they give in. The gamer in me hopes they can survive this though because we need far more just straight up FUN games like this. Their overnight success proves that.

  • @Supersteam09
    @Supersteam09 8 днів тому +4

    Nintendo needs to lose. I don’t get why game mechanics need to be patented. Not only does it stifle creativity, it alone is whats preventing the game industry from being any better.

  • @pc6963
    @pc6963 9 днів тому +29

    Let's not forget when Nintendo ripped off King Kong and was sued for it in 1983 😭 they've been copying others since the beginning

    • @DictatePM
      @DictatePM 8 днів тому +3

      iirc they won the lawsuit and for a fair reason because it was impossible to confuse king kong with donkey kong, the games were pretty different

    • @pc6963
      @pc6963 8 днів тому

      @@DictatePM they did win the lawsuit, it was over the characters likeness and not the game though

  • @Zaela_Zhezzaia
    @Zaela_Zhezzaia 9 днів тому +3

    I hope they lose this lawsuit. I hope people start boycotting Nintendo. Nintendo is a black company.

  • @jamesthomas2410
    @jamesthomas2410 9 днів тому +48

    Let's not forget Pokemon originally stole dragon quest monster likenesses the irony is too prevalent

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 9 днів тому +4

      I don't think slime looks like a pokemon

    • @malikfoxen2045
      @malikfoxen2045 9 днів тому

      @@lightdarksoul2097 slimes arent the only monsters in dragonquest and you can find the monsters theyre referring to with an easy google search. Go look.

    • @jesseritchie9282
      @jesseritchie9282 9 днів тому +8

      ​@@lightdarksoul2097You don't know what you're talking about

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 9 днів тому +5

      @@jesseritchie9282 isnt that dragon quests most famous monster or do you not know dragon quest

    • @seraphlord
      @seraphlord 9 днів тому

      @@lightdarksoul2097 just google image search "dragonquest vs pokemon" it should be the first thing that comes up

  • @BlahBlahBlahBlah69
    @BlahBlahBlahBlah69 9 днів тому +6

    Im curious what this means for sony since they partnered with pocketpair to make palworld entertainment.

    • @TheFirstRealChewy
      @TheFirstRealChewy 9 днів тому +1

      Nintendo is trying to crush Palworld before it gets more traction to compete with Pokémon.

    • @ivanklaric5341
      @ivanklaric5341 9 днів тому +1

      ​@TheFirstRealChewy would Sony be able to back them up? or is palworld on its own now?

    • @BlahBlahBlahBlah69
      @BlahBlahBlahBlah69 9 днів тому

      ​@@ivanklaric5341 that's what I'm curious about because together they made palworld entertainment. Which they either back pocketpair or back away from something they helped create being palworld entertainment.

    • @shadowplayer8738
      @shadowplayer8738 6 днів тому

      @@ivanklaric5341don’t forget, Sony just lost 400M cause of concord. If they are gonna bet on Palworld and fight against Nintendo, they gonna need to believe Palworld is worth it. Worst case scenario, Nintendo would also lose another competitor in the console battle.

  • @thegamingnating6446
    @thegamingnating6446 9 днів тому +63

    This is why it's Morally okay to pirate anything nintendo

    • @TheSpeedfoever
      @TheSpeedfoever 9 днів тому +6

      Fuck pirating

    • @GaymerGirl-
      @GaymerGirl- 9 днів тому

      ​@@TheSpeedfoever fuck nintendo.

    • @evildead9047
      @evildead9047 9 днів тому +4

      @@TheSpeedfoevernope there are a bunch of people pirating and selling there games rn who cares if there this greedy so will we

    • @ferrite1707
      @ferrite1707 8 днів тому +1

      It is never ok to steal. Just because the higher ups of a company is garbage doesn't make actions that you do that negatively impact the actual workers.
      People who talk about things like this as an excuse to be a thief are just using it to justify their deplorable activities. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.

    • @nathanbraun2067
      @nathanbraun2067 8 днів тому +3

      why pirate shitty pokemon games when you could just play palworld?

  • @mrfishmon5517
    @mrfishmon5517 9 днів тому +3

    Damn i have so many great memories of Nintendo going back since the mid 80’s but they are tough to like at times.

  • @OfficialToxicCat
    @OfficialToxicCat 9 днів тому +4

    Its gonna be so bad if another studio ever decides to make their own monster hunting / card game or franchise inho...

  • @AsherEntropic
    @AsherEntropic 9 днів тому +9

    Where the hell was all this bluster when TemTem was coming up? What? TemTem wasn't successful enough for you to care? Is Game Freak crying about the possibility that they might have to innovate so Daddy Nintendo is sending their army of lawyers? 😂

    • @GottiEss
      @GottiEss 9 днів тому +4

      thats exactly it, theres alot of mon catching games that have just never done well, palworld did and nintendo took the nuclear option.

    • @BikiniLongjarhorn
      @BikiniLongjarhorn 6 днів тому

      Yes gamefreak, the golden poop child of nintendo

    • @alexs29
      @alexs29 5 днів тому

      Yeah, that's pretty much it.
      They would rather use money to bribe lawyers than make a genuinely good game utilizing the most successful and lucrative entertainment IP in history, lol. Absolutely lazy and deplorable company.

  • @Sugurain
    @Sugurain 9 днів тому +2

    Sony and Microsoft must have a huge interest in Pal World. I sincerely hope they help Pocket Pair fucking destroy Nintendo in the court.

  • @ShadowKnight309
    @ShadowKnight309 9 днів тому +12

    The fact Nintendo thinks capturing monsters with a pokeball is new says allot about how dumb that company has got. A pokeball is no different than using a trap on a creature. If Nintendo actually spent time trying to make a good pokemon game they wouldn't be loosing out to somebody who does it better than them.

    • @lightdarksoul2097
      @lightdarksoul2097 9 днів тому

      Losing out? They have more sales and at a higher price

    • @Jason_Bover9000
      @Jason_Bover9000 9 днів тому

      Ok I like palworld more I need to fish the achievements before it happens

    • @Jason_Bover9000
      @Jason_Bover9000 9 днів тому

      I think its coming to wonder woman also nemesis

  • @FreakDude69
    @FreakDude69 9 днів тому +3

    I am pretty sure Nintendo has loss a lawsuit they started they just don't lose often.

  • @PandaMuse
    @PandaMuse 9 днів тому +23

    Pocketpair can win by bringing examples of nintendo not sueing other game devs that use the same system.
    I certainly hope they do win because patents like these stifle game innovation and make the industry worse. People already hate AAA game dev companies, and this just makes folks hate them more.

    • @ShinAk1raSama
      @ShinAk1raSama 3 дні тому

      It doesn't help Nintendo that they're effectively suing Pocketpair retroactively, considering Craftopia existed before the filing of the patent. However, Nintendo lawyers are notorious, and Japan is Japan.

    • @PandaMuse
      @PandaMuse 3 дні тому

      @@ShinAk1raSama Yep you're right. Would the judge tribunal know of pocketpair? Probably not. Would they know of nintendo? Almost certainly. That's all it'd likely come down to in the end.

  • @JustaGuy_Gaming
    @JustaGuy_Gaming 3 дні тому +1

    A key part with the Shadow of Mordor Nemesis system is it was patented before the game came out I believe. Pokemon is trying to patent mechanics decades after they came out, and strangely depending on which patent is being sued over months after Palworld was released. Retroactively trying to sue for Patents over long existing mechanics seems wrong. But as the video mentioned, this is only in Japan right now and they heavily favor Nintendo. It would be like trying to get a ruling against Amazon in the US.

  • @zeng58
    @zeng58 3 дні тому +1

    They are gonna loose what I notice when a company gets bigger than them they tend to bite. This patent lawsuit is unprofessional and seriously stupid I really dislike Nintendo now

  • @austinwilson5341
    @austinwilson5341 4 дні тому +1

    Im a huge pokemon fan im going for team pal world. Ive been needing a good monster collector that you interact with mons. Pokemon feels not alive.

  • @jasonroberson3447
    @jasonroberson3447 6 днів тому +1

    why would that kind of patent even be allowed in the first place? 20 years is ridiculous, how about like 2, maybe

  • @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
    @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ 7 днів тому +1

    If that's the case Capcom wouldn't allow any other fighting game than their own. Also there were some that tried that shit and didn't work in the past. Nintendo DID lost minor cases and swept them under the rag, and more than likely Nintendo try to bleed them money before getting even bigger but Sony stepped in.
    Nintendo also fked up with their attitude towards the consumers driving them to unsavoury tactics to play their games. They're pretty much digging their own grave little by little

  • @Cloud3214
    @Cloud3214 9 днів тому +5

    I hope this is the first L they get this is ridiculous. Secondly change the Balls to discs or a laser leash that reels them into a trap. God this is beyond petty and Nintendo is feeling the heat I bet.

  • @Timshivemind
    @Timshivemind 8 днів тому +1

    This just shouldn’t be a thing like couldn’t any billion dollar company just say I created this mechanic no one else is able to use it I think we should pirate all Nintendo games

  • @snonyabeeswax
    @snonyabeeswax 7 днів тому +1

    i hopevpalworld win who patents a game mechanic like that? wtf seriously

  • @MdrnGmngScks
    @MdrnGmngScks 8 днів тому +2

    If Nintendo were smart and wanted to make some money they would have sent a Switch 2 devkit instead of a legal letter.

  • @hugooliveira5578
    @hugooliveira5578 9 днів тому +210

    This is why i make sure to pirate anything related to Nintendo.

    • @robertomaldonado3454
      @robertomaldonado3454 9 днів тому +31

      A man of quality

    • @Torbero47
      @Torbero47 9 днів тому +13

      I wanna hack my switch so bad.

    • @Jolis_Parsec
      @Jolis_Parsec 9 днів тому +30

      Based. Watch the Nintendrones melt down over you saying that though. 😂

    • @Tavicx
      @Tavicx 9 днів тому +17

      I must admit I definitely have a love/hate relationship with Nintendo. The hate is so warranted!

    • @Spartan_83
      @Spartan_83 9 днів тому +8

      Switch games just play much better on PC anyway

  • @krazyd0nut404
    @krazyd0nut404 9 днів тому +4

    An open world server fill with up to a thousands pokemon trainers traveling and battle Pokémon’s together. We been waiting nintendo.

  • @joseespinoza9913
    @joseespinoza9913 4 дні тому +1

    I no longer will support anything Nintendo

  • @Yoshizuyuner
    @Yoshizuyuner 9 днів тому +1

    colopl lawsuit was about movement similar to the ds touch screen gameplay, i dont think it was do you want to keep playing yes or no thing that your talking about, thomas game docs explains it better in his video about it i wish i could link the video for better context but pretty sure your wrong

  • @mesmorrow
    @mesmorrow 8 днів тому +2

    Remember, every dime Pocket Pair spends in court against Nintendo is less content for you and me, Nintendo is winning either way.

  • @gariantroll2975
    @gariantroll2975 9 днів тому +1

    Read the diabolical history of Nintendo and realize how horrible these dudes are.

  • @EmperorDxD
    @EmperorDxD 8 днів тому +1

    They wont its Japan and its a patent

  • @focabox5594
    @focabox5594 7 днів тому +1

    Let's stop spreading fake news. Nintendo has sued and lost in at least two cases "Game Genie" and "Blockbuster"

  • @kay0tica
    @kay0tica 8 днів тому +1

    I haven't paid for a pokemon game in years. Emulation for life.

  • @legendaryhero90
    @legendaryhero90 9 днів тому +11

    Palworld just needs to change their monster capture device and make it so your character isnt throwing a ball.
    There. You're welcome, pocketpair.

    • @greschenglin-dz7wj
      @greschenglin-dz7wj 9 днів тому +5

      I'd like to think that would solve things but I believe that just opens the floodgates for them or someone else to patent *anything* retroactively to the effect of gutting any threat to their golden calf.
      So no.

    • @vaguedreams
      @vaguedreams 9 днів тому +2

      It's not a ball, it's a sphere, completely different. Even has pointy bits. 😛

    • @Lily-xl4hg
      @Lily-xl4hg 9 днів тому +1

      The problem with this is this lawsuit isn't about that it's about gutting a potential big name game.
      As of right now it has the signs of becoming a behemoth like Pokémon as it has multiple big name company partners is having a card game and anime in the works and the game is only getting better.
      Nintendo see's this and wants to crush it now vs the future when it's too big for them to crush.
      If Palworld gives in it sets a toxic permission system for this to happen again today it's palworld tomorrow it could be Monster hunter for its monster mounting mechanic(Pokémon also recently patented that too)
      Palworld needs to fight this and fortunately they have 2 new behemoth partners with Sony and one of the big name anime companies in Japan and I think they know Palworld is going to be a behemoth and could very likely help them.

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 6 днів тому

      @@Lily-xl4hg Yeah but Pocket Pair is also backed by Microsoft, who if they feel the need to get involved, have lawyers that would cripple Nintendo.

    • @alexs29
      @alexs29 5 днів тому

      @@megaman37456 Not only that, they're now backed by Sony as well. Sony partnered with them to get a multiplat deal, as well as an anime and merchandising line. Everyone thinks Nintendo has this lawsuit in the bag but if Sony and Microsoft get involved, then it's going to get bloody very quickly.

  • @flipyapd2321
    @flipyapd2321 9 днів тому +2

    The giant ego of Nintendo they think they own a game mechanic lmao

  • @jpjg86
    @jpjg86 8 днів тому +1

    You’re not wrong in your conclusion, but people could try and license those things. Whilst I agree that there should be limits on patenting game mechanics, being unable to use a patent, can lead to innovation too, because people are forced to figure out new ways of doing things. At the end of the day, it is perfectly clear that this game is based upon Pokémon’s IP - people literally call it Pokémon with guns. These parents, whilst I believe to be unfair in their granting, mean that everybody has to respect the hard work gone into their development etc. perhaps suggesting an amendment to patent law, where other companies can license it for a proportional/fair sum of money and the holder cannot refuse a request made in good faith?

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 9 днів тому +2

    You could have said slave if anybody gets offended by that that is stupid you're obviously talking about a video game I know what you were going to say but you cut yourself off I don't know this is why sometimes I don't like the internet people get offended over dumb crap and you have to be careful of what you say I find it completely stupid

  • @crystalknighthgaming
    @crystalknighthgaming 5 днів тому +1

    We should boycott Nintendo till they back off

  • @TheKingSalty
    @TheKingSalty 2 години тому

    Nintendo is the Lars Ulrich of the video game world.

  • @Poi_16811
    @Poi_16811 9 днів тому +2

    funny thing is i bought palworld the day before the lawsuit was announced.

  • @TheCobraKing209
    @TheCobraKing209 7 днів тому +1

    Given how most of the patents that Nintendo are (probably) sueing for were only APPLIED for AFTER Palworld’s release, Pocket pair has a decent defense that some of Nintendo’s claims may be illegitimate, unless they are spontaneously granted before any hearings start

  • @Pawsum1tiger
    @Pawsum1tiger 9 днів тому +2

    Imagine if Rock Star said naw we did car jacking first in video games and it's patented so you can't do that. Or if nintendo said we did Karting first in a video game.