Chaco Canyon: Indigenous Astronomy in the American Southwest

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024

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  • @darcyschneider8525
    @darcyschneider8525 Рік тому +4

    I'm so impressed with the ease and accuracy of pronunciations in this video. I really appreciate it because mispronunciations or awkwardly overemphasized pronunciations are distracting. Thanks!

  • @LemonDove
    @LemonDove Рік тому +6

    Growing up in New Mexico, Chaco Canyon has always fascinated me

  • @gloomgaar7636
    @gloomgaar7636 Рік тому +7

    My grandma lives on the reservation legit like 10 minutes away from this. It’s pretty much her backyard. This video only shows a tiny bit of the ruins, the entire surrounding area is covered with broken pottery from them, more housing, and even more carvings. Super cool but according my the Navajo culture we’re not supposed to visit those sacred sites or touch their broken pottery’s around the area bc it’ll affect you in the future

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +1

      Very cool, thank you for sharing!

    • @PeteKiefer
      @PeteKiefer 10 місяців тому

      Your grandmother and her friends hold some very valuable stories. I’m so glad your culture lives on through you, through her and I hope your children.
      It’s is so nice to see the wisdom of the native tribes finally being recognized.
      Thanks for your story,
      Pete

    • @pinchevulpes
      @pinchevulpes 2 місяці тому

      @@gloomgaar7636 this shit bird doesn’t care about your heritage, says he knows more than your grandma.

  • @KeyanGootkin
    @KeyanGootkin Рік тому +11

    Great video!! i’m an astronomy phd student who has helped teach a class on archeoastronomy and chaco canyon is definitely one of my favorite examples of so called “primitive” societies having some of the most advanced understandings of the night sky. honestly it would take at least one astro phd to have a chance at doing something similarly complex today. and if they didn’t have access to computers it would probably take them a long while 😅
    if you’re interested in doing more archeoastronomy videos i would look into polynesian wayfinding techniques. there’s some great documentaries on the voyage of Hōkūle’a to give you an overview :-)

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому

      Thank you, and thanks for the suggestion!

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Рік тому +8

    The whole Humanity really seems to share a common fascination with the celestial cycles.
    As is usual with your videos, it looks like you really put some work into it.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +5

      It's noteworthy that in the days before electric lighting, people all across the globe would have been able to see a lot more in the sky. The American Southwest is one of the best places to go stargazing today, because there's a lot of wide open space without any big cities.
      And thank you!

  • @GiffysChannel
    @GiffysChannel 7 місяців тому

    This subject is so interesting and vastly under studied. This was a great video and you put everyting together very well. I've gotten into this topic mainly because of Randall Carlson so I look forward when he brings up Chaco Canyon in his podcast.

  • @willmorris574
    @willmorris574 Рік тому +1

    I've listened to Barnhart's "Ancient Civilizations of North America" audio series, which I highly recommend. Your video complements the Chaco Canyon episode nicely. Thank you!

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому

      I'll check it out sometime, thanks for the recommendation!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory Рік тому +1

    interesting, never saw anyone cover this topic before and congrats on 1000 subs!

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek 7 місяців тому +2

    Part 2:
    There's a geologist who posts a lot of videos on You Tube, who stood in front of a wall showing a bathtub ring (see Lake Mead, and Lake Powell canyon walls), in the Bisti area, pointing to hoodoos in an ancient stream bed, talking about "wind" carving them. Wind erosion is very different from water erosion, and a professional SHOULD be able to tell the difference, but, because of the region's aridity, he convinced himself (common in the field, of "other means"). Religion plays a role, too, as the 800-pound-gorilla "arbiter" of history, science, and beliefs.
    So, eventually, circa 500BC-300BC, the Anasazi arrive in the Southwestern US, rounded up all those logs (logs will remain usable for long, long periods if left in water--sawmills do it all the time, and the Southwest may have been more temperate, in those times), and all that rock (anyone ever ask "Where are the tailings--the chips broken off the "square" or flatten the tens of thousands of rocks used by the ancients--that should be everywhere there are ruins?"), to start building their cities. The water lasted until around the 1st Millennium AD, when it began seeping away.
    I suspect some of them had itchy feet, after their ancestors long trek, continued south, probably when their leaders figured out it was only a matter of time before life-giving water disappeared, intermarried with the Olmecs (people from a different direction, but a very similar story), founded the Toltecs as a satellite group, and the Aztecs, as their own version with local survivors, then, a century before the arrival of Cortez, traveled back north, eventually founding the Navajo, Hopi, Zuni, and other tribes, much as their distant cousins, who'd broken off from the main group headed south, to travel east, founded the other Native American tribes, except those in Florida, and close to it, like the Choctaw and Creeks.
    The events I describe shattered mountains (take I-8 west from El Centro, to see entire mountains shattered in place, alongside the freeway), displaced seas, and probably wiped out up to 90% of ALL life on Earth, several times, during Noah, Exodus, Jonah, the triple whammy of II Samuel, II Kings/Chronicles/I Isaiah, and Ezekiel, and possibly Jeremiah/Lamentations. Other times were "bad", but those times brought life to its lowest ebb in our slice of recorded history, the last 5,000 years. It was a time that tried "men's souls", in truth, left us with countless phobias (xenophobia and its evil twin racism), weird beliefs and customs, and organized religion (Jews became monotheistic in the middle of that "triple whammy" I mentioned above), scattering the tribes of Man to the far corners of the world, now covered with giant oceans.
    I believe, before there had only been large inland seas, with far more land area, and one ocean, the South Pacific, west of Chile, north of Antarctica, west of Micronesia/New Zealand, and south of Hawaii. If so, the theory offers a better solution to the far-flung destinations where Man made his home. As the water poured off the landforms that would become the continents we know today, the plates beneath the rest of the ocean areas would slowly settle, from the weight (at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, the weight of water, alone, amounts to a quarter-million pounds per square foot). Until the events of Exodus, the "continental shelves" were above sea level, too, but by the 12th Century BC "triple whammy", the modern appearance of Earth was all but set, leaving only plate movements to shuttle any remaining bodies of water into one of the oceans.
    I've wandered far afield, but it is important to note, the arrival, and disappearance of the Anasazi were connected to larger events, the kind that makes the actions of the PIE people/Survivors/Fremont peoples/Anasazi make far more sense. They acted rationally, but utter survival is a tough gig, so other than their not making any effort to take advantage of the wealth of minerals and raw materials to advance beyond that level, we cannot fault them overmuch for living in Hózhó with their environment for perhaps a millennium. Our ancient past is very different from what we are told, but there is a narrative that links it all together. We know this, because we are here, in this moment.
    ©BW2023 02/19/2024
    anarchitek™

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  7 місяців тому

      ...Oh okay so it's that kind of comment.

    • @TheAnarchitek
      @TheAnarchitek 7 місяців тому

      I gave it some thought.@@SomasAcademy

  • @GnosticPath
    @GnosticPath 9 місяців тому +1

    extremely informative video! more informative than the ancient aliens episodes on this subject, thanks for the video!

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  9 місяців тому

      That's a low bar to clear but thank you lol

    • @GnosticPath
      @GnosticPath 9 місяців тому

      @@SomasAcademy 😂

  • @williamreeder3660
    @williamreeder3660 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for a great video

  • @StanKindly
    @StanKindly Рік тому +1

    Incidentally "Anasazi" is a Navajo word meaning "enemy of our ancestors"
    Presumably referring to the Chacoans

  • @kimberlyboldt5213
    @kimberlyboldt5213 10 місяців тому +7

    The Ancestors of the Pueblo did not build Chaco Canyon, and they will tell you this. The word "Anastasi" simply means "the ancient ones". They were there before the Pueblan peoples. You can tell by the building styles. The Pueblo didn't build like this. The Anisazi mysteriously disappeared. And even the Pueblo don't know what happened to them. If you know anything about Native Americans they keep meticulous records of their ancestry through their elders. The Anisazi are not their ancestors.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  10 місяців тому +4

      The term "Anasazi" is Navajo, not Puebloan. The Navajo migrated into the Southwest around 1400 CE, centuries after Chaco Canyon was abandoned, so their claims about the people of Chaco Canyon were not based on direct oral traditions but on speculation about the old sites they found around them, somewhat similar to Ancient Greeks attributing the abandoned remains of Mycenean cities to Cyclopes. The Pueblo peoples themselves firmly reject the narrative that the people of Chaco Canyon "mysteriously disappeared," maintaining oral traditions that they migrated out of the Chaco area and blended with surrounding populations to become their ancestors, and different Pueblo populations even trace their descent to specific Ancestral Puebloan sites. They take the Navajo term "Anasazi" as meaning "Ancient Enemies" (though some Navajo people contest this translation) and consider it a pejorative for their ancestors, hence why the term "Ancestral Puebloans" is preferred. So yes, "if you know anything about Native Americans they keep meticulous records of their ancestors," and according to the records of the Puebloans, the "Anasazi" WERE their ancestors.

    • @kimberlyboldt5213
      @kimberlyboldt5213 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SomasAcademy I have to disagree with you being married to a Native American myself. Do you think somehow the Pueblo peoples forgot how to build in the style of Chaco? How come their villages do not resemble anything like Chaco? The truth is the Pueblo aren't related to the Anisazi in any way shape or form. You are jumping to conclusions like most people who jump on this bandwagon without doing proper reasearch. Then you lead people astray.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  10 місяців тому +4

      @@kimberlyboldt5213 The race of the person you're married to doesn't give you even a little bit of authority. English houses today don't look anything like they did 1,000 years ago either. Hell, "Anasazi" cliff dwellings don't look anything like "Anasazi" Great Houses, and the individual people who built the first of them probably literally grew up in Great Houses. Native American houses in my area went from being round with no distinction between walls and roof to being rectangular with separate wall and roof sections in less than 100 years, while being made of the same materials and maintaining the same uses. The English who came to this same region started out building their houses of Wattle and Daub with thatched roofs and switched over to building them almost entirely of wooden boards and shingles in the same time frame. Cultures change over time, such is history. I'm not "jumping on a bandwagon," I'm listening to Pueblo oral traditions, which you pretended to care about in your first comment. I did proper research, and cited my sources. You, meanwhile, think marrying a Native American gives you some innate insight into the diverse cultures of an entire continent, yet still maintain the colonialist idea that Native cultures are somehow unchanging. I'm not leading anyone astray, you are with your racist nonsense, and you should apologize to your spouse for using them as a prop immediately.

    • @kimberlyboldt5213
      @kimberlyboldt5213 10 місяців тому +1

      @@SomasAcademy You are lying that you've listened to oral traditions of the Pueblo, then you obfuscate the object of this discussion by going off on a tangent of how the English build houses which has nothing to with this discussion. You agree that the Pueblo kept meticulous records passed down by oral tradition, yet there are no records as to how and why Chaco Canyon buildings were built by the Pueblo. Why is that? HOW COME we are in the dark as to what the Chaco site is about? Point being, you cannot admit you don't know what you're talking about. The Pueblo do not know what the Chaco site is, or how or why it was built. Somehow that disappears from their oral tradition? It was never in their oral tradition in the first place. You are ASSUMING this the case by popular teaching, and haven't done your homework. Anyone can cut and paste from Wiki and Google. But no one knows how to do real reasearch anymore.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  10 місяців тому +3

      @@kimberlyboldt5213 Yes I do know how to do real research and have done my homework in the most literal sense lol, I have a BA in History and Anthropology and an MA in History, and wrote the script for this video as an academic paper while taking a class about the Indigenous Cultures of the American Southwest. Feel free to send me sources other than "I'm married to a Native American."

  • @TheXDanilo
    @TheXDanilo Рік тому +1

    Great video!

  • @prophetofbara1214
    @prophetofbara1214 Рік тому

    Such a great episode as always 😊

  • @alexgabriel5423
    @alexgabriel5423 8 місяців тому

    Great Presentation! 🎉Would it be possible to hold on the screen the lunar allignments instead of the little doll? Many Thanks!

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  8 місяців тому

      Thank you! The video is already made so it's a bit late to change the editing lol

    • @alexgabriel5423
      @alexgabriel5423 8 місяців тому

      @SomasAcademy maybe in the future...a new version☆ the diagrams☆☆☆you have are not even in the SAR presentation...your contribution is Commendable!

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  8 місяців тому

      @@alexgabriel5423 The SAR presentation?

  • @johnfalkenstine8377
    @johnfalkenstine8377 2 місяці тому

    The run-on digital voice is irritating and diminishes the presentation.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  2 місяці тому

      ..."Digital voice"? Bruh that's just how I sound, this video was uploaded before lifelike AI generated voices were even a thing lol

  • @johnpatz6197
    @johnpatz6197 Рік тому

    Outstanding content. I personally find the avatar really annoying. My opinion is that your visuak content is so good, that you don't need the cartoon. Just my $0.02

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I use the avatar because with the visual style of my videos, I can't linger on any shots for too long. It's really hard to find images that are suitable for every single part of the video, so the avatar gives me a way of filling in the blanks without pausing on an image for way too long or just throwing random images on screen.

    • @PeteKiefer
      @PeteKiefer 10 місяців тому

      I agree. I would prefer to see your face. It would be nice to be able to fade from you talking to a video of your subject matter.
      I think you underestimate the value we viewers place on seeing and getting to know the real you and not the cartoon
      you.
      Pete

  • @latriciabailey8359
    @latriciabailey8359 6 місяців тому

    Every ancient site, every country around the planet the people/natives or transplants did the labor work but the Gods actually built all the amazing structors?..........
    Chipper Bailey.

  • @az55544
    @az55544 Рік тому

    Pueblo has an e, not an a.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +1

      It's a Spanish word, that's how they pronounce E's.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +1

      @@no-km3vw Google translate pronounces it the same way I did lol
      Wiktionary gives the Spanish pronunciation as ˈpweblo (which is how I pronounced it - the e in IPA represents the vowel sound heard in the word "may," sound since that's how the letter is pronounced in most languages) or ˈpwe.β̞lo, and the English pronunciation as ˈpwɛbləʊ, with ɛ representing the E sound seen in English words like end, entrance, or Elmo, or in Spanish words like el, entrar, or electricidad.
      Anyway, tell your madre y padre and abuela y abuelo and maybe your vecina de Toledo and her perro Jose I said buenos dias, and that you'd like to eat an enchilada con carne y salsa verde and go to the zoo to see the elefantes. Be sure to pronounce all those e's the way you're telling me e's are consistently pronounced in Spanish, since as you say, every letter is pronounced as it's seen.

    • @az55544
      @az55544 Рік тому

      @@SomasAcademy I thought your pronunciation was off, too and here it is already in a comment. Go ask a native 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  Рік тому +1

      @@az55544 It's not a Native word, it's Spanish. Native pronunciation varies since it's a foreign word to them just like it is to other Americans; some use the Anglicized pronunciation of "Pweh-bloh," others stick to the Spanish pronunciation of "Pway-bloh." Neither is invalid.

  • @chrispile3878
    @chrispile3878 24 дні тому

    Your use of the animated female character is STOOPID, and adds nothing to the video.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  23 дні тому

      Female?

    • @chrispile3878
      @chrispile3878 23 дні тому

      @@SomasAcademy You telling me it's NOT female?

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  23 дні тому

      @@chrispile3878 It's a cartoon version of me and I'm not female so yeah lol

    • @chrispile3878
      @chrispile3878 23 дні тому

      @@SomasAcademy Then that cartoon is very unfortunately drawn. And still STOOPID.

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy  23 дні тому

      @@chrispile3878 With my editing style it's hard to fill every second of he video with visuals. The avatar lets me fill in the gaps.