@@TimtheEnchanter25 No not really. I'm not saying let them go out of our way to let them go extinct, but what I am saying is humans are the only other species who would willingly give more help to them than our own species. Humans are the superior species of Earth and that isn't deniable it is fact. Lets focus on ourselves before a bunch of stupid monkeys. Without us many of them would die in the wild. If we work so hard to keep them alive they need to benefit us somehow or we are wasting time. There are humans out there who could grow up and cure cancer if we actually cared for their wellbeing but instead we are wasting billions on shit like cannibal monkies. Focus on human wellbeing first. Then maybe well have enough time to give a shit abiut some stupid monkies. In fact look at the country Jane was in for so long. You think most people in Tanzania give two shits about monkies or is their focus food on the table, water and a roof just like most humans? Think!
Lmao my middle aged teacher teaches almost strictly through youtube they need to pay attention to platforms we’re already familiar with since they want to “put the work on technology because thats where their attention is”
Ants happen to come across eachother and attack, but never attack their own colony's members. As for apes, they were actively seeking conflict and were attacking individuals who used to be part of their own group. An ant colony is a superorganism with very little individuality, meaning ant wars are simply two creatures attacking one another
@@lucasledford12 Insects don't count, their nervous systems are so simple - they don't even have brains. They are bio-robots running on pheromones. Higher forms of mammals and birds however are clearly both sapient and sentient. When they do stuff, it's not just raw instinct and biochemistry at work - It's choice. That's why Chimps are so scary. They share the same dark impulses as us. But unlike us, they didn't invent morality or religion yet. There's nothing whispering in the back of their heads "be good, or else...". Humans at their worst are like Chimps at their normal. The same capability for cruelty and malice, but with none of the brakes we invented.
"We like to think we've evolved and advanced. Because we can build a computer, fly an airplane, travel underwater, we can write a sonnet, paint a painting, compose an Opera. But you know something? We're barely out of the Jungle on this planet. Barely out of the f**king Jungle." George Carlin
@@joeybloey3631 Eh, I don't know the context behind the quote, but I think it was meant to express that we still have a ways to go. We definitely have made terrific strides forward, which Carlin represented as exiting the Jungle, it's just the he was probably looking further forward.
@@joeybloey3631 How is that related to anything ever said besides all republicans saying that all day? You forgot to cry about genderism. Must be gay lol.
@@joeybloey3631 I just read that interesting quote from Carlin and then you went: "Carlin is an idiot. I am the best because I'm right because I'm right". You decide how you may appear to others.
"They had personalities." My dog has an individual personality. All of the ones I've ever owned have. I refuse to believe true scientist would find that so ground breaking that a chimp would too.
it's sheer human arrogance, nothing more. You can discuss what it means to be "sentient" for hundreds of years and never reach a concensus, but literally every complex lifee form on this entire planet has the capacity for personality, and most of them do. Each of my 30 rats over a span of 8 years had an individual personality, some of them quite complex. As were my two gerbils and Syrian hamster. My dogs and cats over the years have been individuals. My friend's horses, his farmer neighbour's cows. Hell, if you're a pro wrestling fan, check out William Regal talk about his monitor lizards and how they behave. But noooooo, nothing can ever be as complex and evolved as a human.
Of course I know you're making a joke, but to be serious... the emus I think you're referring to (an embarrassing bit of Australian history) didn't actually go to war -- they were trying to evade slaughter by humans.
If you search for it you'll probably find it here on UA-cam but Ravens are capable of the same level of abstract thought. In the experiment I saw a raven essentially did the same thing with a stick to get a treat.
Ravens are not found in my country but I have observed crows doing some extraordinary things. There were 1-2 crows sitting on a wall, a lady threw some rice and pieces of bread for these crows. Now instead of eating the rice these crows started calling their other group members, they flew in air, went around while yelling Kaw kaw kaw..... In about a minute or so, the place was full of crows, there were about 10-12 crows there. I also witnessed them sharing food with each other. There were a few unlucky ones who didn't get to eat, so the crows started sharing food with each other. I was watching them from my balcony. Fascinating birds. They are so intelligent.
One thing is actually sort of missing from this story. After the Kasakela wiped out the Kahama, they tried to expand their territory in the opposite direction due to their confidence. Their plans didn't go as they intended and were wiped out by the neighbor community.
I've read about this story before and here's what interests me, not that they executed a premeditated attack but that somehow Humphrey was able to communicate his intentions to his leutentants. They must have a sophisticated language of some sort that we have not even noticed.
If aliens are real and are observing us, I'd like to think that somewhere out there there is an alien version of Thoughty2 making videos such as this, but about us and our history.
Wow.. as soon as I read this comment I had to comment. 1 year ago, exactly 1 year ago, in April 2022 I became seriously ill, stayed sick for days on end.. I could do nothing but just lie on bed take meds wait for treatment.. and watching videos from Thoughty2 really made me feel better even in that terrible state of my health...
It's surprising that by the 1970's they didn't understand animals had their own personality. I knew this by the time I was 10 years old and had my 2nd dog. Every dog I've ever owned had his own personality. I don't think Jane Goodall learned this on that trip, and if so, these people have no conception of anything around them. Obviously if their dogs have a different personality, then the 2nd smartest animal on earth would too.
I thought it was going to be about how if the universe is infinite then mathematically, somewhere out there, is a planet where chimps are the dominant species.
I watched her documentary... I'm pretty sure the chimps would attack their camp on the regular. And she actually has a pretty tragic love story, unfortunately she put chimp research above her family
Not to discount the chimps, or any other apes for that matter, but Ravens use tools as well. If you're in the part of the world where Ravens live, you can see for yourself. Put some food under a wire cage in your front yard. The birds will sense it, but can't get to it directly. They will get a stick or anything like it, put it in their beak and push or pull it the the edge of said cage until they can reach it and eat it. So apes aren't the only ones to use tools
“Humans may be innately predisposed to war…but the doesn’t mean it’s true.” The entirety of human history disagrees and would like a word with your leader…
@@jadencole8278 We can obtain it if liberals are in power around the world and democracy is strengthened. Liberals have a better neurological ability to feel the pain of others. It's these Right Wingers and Communists who are always causing conflicts.
what really brought humans into conflict was farming, before the Neolithic, groups of people generally avoided each other, but once they started farming they have a territory that they have to defend, they can't just move elsewhere.
i'm 53 and i've been a wildlife fanatic since i was a kid back in the early 70's and i never thought chimps were peaceful and harmless. i was just a boy and even i could sense that they were nothing to fuck with.
sounds more like genocide than a war to me. But the way they were startled to see them have personalities reminds me of my middle school biology teacher. It took me years to take biology serious after the damage that muppet caused :-D
Yeah, I remember our High School biology textbook had about 5 pages on Evolution. Wasn't until College when my Father saw his favorite Professor was still teaching and insisted that I take his History of Science class that I learned about Evolution. I was shocked to learn that Biology textbooks are just as bad today when I read my nieces High School textbook. Many things that were just flat out wrong. Calling Fungi non vascular plants. Fungi are in their own Kingdom, just like Plants and Animals. How could they get that wrong?
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 What are you two Talking about? It‘s not a GENocide and neither is it more like a democide. Or do chimps run a government? It‘s chimp warfare no need to overthink it
@@communistcomputergod6449 > _...do chimps run a government?_ So to say, yes. In this case, it was Humphrey who ran his group, whereas the brothers ran the other. But I don't understand your argument: Why should a genocide or democide require a government and a war not?
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 democide requires a government. Obviously. Look The chimp war Argument was in reference To the fact That you were otherthinking it. as in “it’s just chimps killing each other don’t try to otherthink it” doesn’t mean that it’s actually that simple but I thought that you would get it. Forgot that Germans just don’t get subtly.
Now we know all sorts of animals use tools. All mammals have personalities. You just have to spend time with them. Birds too. Science still needs to discover the human mind and how it is different than the brain.
There are other animals that use tools but they use them in a different way to us. Most animals, they don't manipulate what they use for a tool to make it more useful; they just use the tool; and a lot of it is done by instinct instead of further thought being put into it. So like, there's primates that will take a stick and use it to measure how deep the water in a river is, or there are monkeys that use a rock to crack their nuts: all of these are examples of tool usage but they are using the tool in it's most simplest form and aren't manipulating the tool to make it more functionable. An example of this would be sharpening a stick against something to make it more useful so now you aren't just ONLY using the stick as a tool but you are manipulating said tool to make it more useful. You could say the chimps have already learned this type of elevated tool usage by removing all of the leaves off of their stick before sticking it into a hole for termite fishing. I can't speak for other animals but maybe some of them also have a goal to manipulate their tools in order to get better usage out of them. Also how do we know that these animals were using these tools millions of years ago or if they are just now recently(ish) evolving too; albeit at a slower and different rate than us. There isn't one definite answer to say what makes us, us; it's more of a recipe of different things and making intelligent tools is a maybe smaller part of it than we used to think.
@@TheSkullConfernece I challenge you to watch some NDE stories here on youtube and then explain how Dr. Eben Alexander's experience fits within your tidy materialist cubbyhole.
I accidentally watched the *Gombe War* documentary/footage when I was quite young....yeah it’s disturbing... to say the least. Fascinating-but disturbing. 😳
@Thomas Buchovecky yeah I hate he sometimes he only show stock images and videos, but the storytelling is so successful. Like that bald guy who I always struggle to remember his name.
@@dr.floridaman4805 what you mean then you mention covid it is a virus how is any of it settled? The degree of our influence and its long term consequences is not settled. The last one i dont get at all.
@@sargonyami4292 bezos wants humans to cut down their carbon footprint. Jeff Bezos launched his rocket the other day for a sight seeing space flight. In the trip he produced more carbon in one day than a small african nation does in a year. Globalist elites have rules for you and a separate set for themselves. They claim the settled science is they need to, you dont.
I'm near a single species study that's been going on for forty years. One can learn a lot over multiple decades. A seminar by its leader, a local professor, was fun and enlightening.
Regular smart crow: I just figured out how to use a twig to draw termites out of this tree trunk! Genius smart crow: Hey, guys! Look what happens when I set fire to gunpowder!
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc they also pass down memories to offspring. I've seen stress test that produce adverse reactions to the same mask. Yet the offspring has never been aware of the danger. Only associates it through memories passed down. It's pretty phenomenal.
funny cause the existance of aliens are just assumed by some scientist because there are planets that are ASSUMED to sustain life like earth, but no real proof whatsoever
"our peace loving hippie..." me, though I already know there will be more to it: "mjeah actually...did you ever listen to the emergency call where a chimpanse eats the ladies' face Arran?":/
Doubtful. I have photographic memory. I can relate my memories into real world actions. Drawing, writing, schematics. If their long term memory was better then they would do better. The human brain is the most complex matter in the universe. Not an apes.
@@dr.floridaman4805 We ARE apes. And if you have a photographic memory, you're definitely in the minority. Our brains are bigger and more evolved, but that doesn't mean they don't do some things better and more efficient than us. We absolutely lost some things when we developed our bigger, more modern brain.
Memory isn’t THAT trade-off, it’s more about reducing our cognitive fixations of loss: revisiting trauma and reflecting dulls a memory, changing it slightly.
Man i keep seeing comments saying ants do war too, they do but they dont war with their own species there are different species that have war with eachother but an ant will never attack an ant of its own species
That would be her approach. Not yours, right? It’s why Dr Leaky sent her out to the jungles, because all the belligerent arrogance of men was missing huge chunks of their behavior.
As you were re-calling the story (that I admittedly have heard before once or twice) I still could feel my respiration, and heartbeat increase. Well done!
@Robert Stallard Hmm… just a couple of things to throw in the hopper with that… in no particular order. Starting a war is inherently immoral. Entering a war that’s already started may or may not be, depending on circumstances. Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good (take Rabies for example: existed in nature long before we did, but you would be absolutely mad to wish you had it). All of those things that you mentioned do proceed without a war… but having a spear digging into your back does tend to put urgency into the situation. It only takes one party to start a war; but it takes everyone to have peace. If you are defenseless, sooner or later somebody is going to attack you. Note that passive defenses do apply (being completely unreachable does go a long way, for example). 🤔
@@ItzMike5 On occasion, that has been known to happen. P.s. Personally, I have nothing but deep respect for all the Allied forces who turned back the sea of darkness during WWII.
They are mostly by hot fans of Aaran, the presenter of this channel... I am not envious, neither a hot fan, just like him in some ways... I like how he speaks with humor and winks with one eye bigger than the other... I just have my own goals and friends from abroad and from my country, and this channel has not contacted me yet, so I guess, we are just staying put, some other fans did contact me though 😃
It must've been terrifying for Jane to witness this as first there she is bonding a little with these beautiful peaceful chimpanzees, then the next thing she witnessed them being killers & brutal killers at that. I wonder how she managed to stay safe studying them , as she may have been scared that if they turned on eachother, would they think nothing on turning on her? And she must've had a strong stomach to witness them tearing at the other chimps, drinking their blood etc. Ugh 😝
Yeah, know the feeling. I had to go there for a bogus traffic ticket. Luckily I knew enough to write a motion to dismiss, because the cop would not show up. I fired my defense attorney because she was talking with the prosecutor about a lunch date.
@@godsteeth1574 nothing racist about making a simple observation. Seems as though you should be clapping your hands instead of virtue signaling to satisfy your narcissistic needs.
So far, up until 5:35 , it sounds like a story on Humans: *Discovering their intelligence defined ego is overinflated or at least narrow-minded* Also humans: *Surprised Pikachu face*
I’ve noticed a very strange occurrence. Both Count Dankula and Thoughty2 use the same stories but with a decent difference in between. I really love having multiple perspectives on the same stories! Keep up the good work Thoughty2!
That’s the most dumbest thing I’ve ever heard . We did not come from Monkeys or chimpanzee . God created us . We are from the seed of Adam and women come from the seed of Eve ..
@@charleswilson9480 Humans are part of the great ape family. The same family that includes Gorilla’s, Chimps, orangutans and others. There is nothing disturbing about that. I stated a fact and that is Humans are apes.
CORRECTION @ 1:14 1st time another mammal was documented going to war not the first time another species was documented going to war. We've known ants war for a long time.
Wow, leave it to science to “discover” and declare something that anyone with common sense and eyes ALREADY KNEW (I.E., most individual animals have unique personalities let alone chimps). Humans had also observed animals using tools too. Only difference is they didn’t publish it in a scientific journal. It doesn’t take anthropomorphic projection to see this. I bet farmers and ranchers got a kick out of this amazing declaration. lol
“Apes together strong” Humphrey 1974
deservers 2k likes
Yes monke
I'm definitely an ape.
But family is stronger
Lol
Chimps are the only animals known to go to war besides humans.
Ants: am I a joke to you?
Regular bees and the big super Japanese bees....war?
Hold my beer 😂.....
i think their talking about war amongst themselves
Ants are insects
Not animals
@@mr.4959 Uh, what? Insects are animals
Chimps are absolutely terrifying. I don’t understand why anyone would want to own one as a pet.
Much less beg for funding to keep them alive?
@@elliotw4606 They're natural, living beings. Having them go extinct because of humans is unethical.
@@TimtheEnchanter25 No not really. I'm not saying let them go out of our way to let them go extinct, but what I am saying is humans are the only other species who would willingly give more help to them than our own species. Humans are the superior species of Earth and that isn't deniable it is fact. Lets focus on ourselves before a bunch of stupid monkeys. Without us many of them would die in the wild. If we work so hard to keep them alive they need to benefit us somehow or we are wasting time. There are humans out there who could grow up and cure cancer if we actually cared for their wellbeing but instead we are wasting billions on shit like cannibal monkies. Focus on human wellbeing first. Then maybe well have enough time to give a shit abiut some stupid monkies. In fact look at the country Jane was in for so long. You think most people in Tanzania give two shits about monkies or is their focus food on the table, water and a roof just like most humans? Think!
@@elliotw4606 actually, without us many of them would not be dying. They are going extinct because of human activity.
@@elliotw4606 But there are a disturbing, insect-like amount of humans on the planet already and we, too, are just murder monkeys but with more steps.
Feel like I’m back in high school in history class only difference is I’m actually paying attention this time.
Yeah I wish educational UA-cam existed in my school days. This is 10x more interesting and captivating than any class I've ever had.
Lmao my middle aged teacher teaches almost strictly through youtube they need to pay attention to platforms we’re already familiar with since they want to “put the work on technology because thats where their attention is”
"The first species other than our own to declare war"
*Ants intensify*
Ants happen to come across eachother and attack, but never attack their own colony's members. As for apes, they were actively seeking conflict and were attacking individuals who used to be part of their own group.
An ant colony is a superorganism with very little individuality, meaning ant wars are simply two creatures attacking one another
Ans are no animals ...fml
@@attachedflower8008 are lizards animals?
@@attachedflower8008 are you is have the dumb?
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 Sounds like their more evil cousins, or relatives we call Humans.
Reject humanity, return to monke
EDIT: nvm, they’re becoming more human…
Return to 'Monke' they say, but we never stopped being 'Monke' in the first place!
Ascend to bonobo
yes we can trade stocks now! amazing isnt it?
@@mangokraken we’ve come so far…
@@mangokraken although we have been doing similar things to trading stocks for hundreds of years
Holy shit. They actually fought a full-blown war for exactly the same reasons humans have fought wars! Even taking Prisoners of War! Holy shitballs!
Wait till you hear about what Ants, Orcas, Bees and wasps.
@@lucasledford12
...and the war between the Lions and Hyenas
@@lucasledford12 Insects don't count, their nervous systems are so simple - they don't even have brains. They are bio-robots running on pheromones.
Higher forms of mammals and birds however are clearly both sapient and sentient. When they do stuff, it's not just raw instinct and biochemistry at work - It's choice.
That's why Chimps are so scary. They share the same dark impulses as us. But unlike us, they didn't invent morality or religion yet. There's nothing whispering in the back of their heads "be good, or else...". Humans at their worst are like Chimps at their normal. The same capability for cruelty and malice, but with none of the brakes we invented.
"We like to think we've evolved and advanced. Because we can build a computer, fly an airplane, travel underwater, we can write a sonnet, paint a painting, compose an Opera. But you know something? We're barely out of the Jungle on this planet. Barely out of the f**king Jungle." George Carlin
I cant do any of things you wrote :(
@@rutgerb you can do them but that doesn’t mean you’ll do them well
@@joeybloey3631 Eh, I don't know the context behind the quote, but I think it was meant to express that we still have a ways to go. We definitely have made terrific strides forward, which Carlin represented as exiting the Jungle, it's just the he was probably looking further forward.
@@joeybloey3631 How is that related to anything ever said besides all republicans saying that all day? You forgot to cry about genderism. Must be gay lol.
@@joeybloey3631 I just read that interesting quote from Carlin and then you went: "Carlin is an idiot. I am the best because I'm right because I'm right". You decide how you may appear to others.
Jane is still alive. She was born in 1934, making here 87 years old currently.
@chimp cult Thanks. Cheers
Guess living naturally in nature does magic for your health. Like seriously she is more lively than any one at her age. Does even look past 70
Darwinian Evolution is bull$h!t
@@elgatofelix8917 No its not genetics fossils say otherwise
@@elgatofelix8917 how?
Ngl this was really intriguing and I am now terrified of chimps.
Original title: “Welcome to the Real Planet of the Apes”
Yes
Allready changed?
Changed
wait yea wtf
I wonder why they changed it?
First title “Welcome to the Real Planet of the Apes”
Second title “These Chimps Once Had a Full-Blown War in the Jungle”
Why? I mean does he change the title very often??
Yes
@@Monkey_D_Luffy56 yes
@@Monkey_D_Luffy56 You have no idea...
Yah
"They had personalities." My dog has an individual personality. All of the ones I've ever owned have. I refuse to believe true scientist would find that so ground breaking that a chimp would too.
It might not seem like that long ago but it was a time full of ignorance, even more than now somehow
Lol right?
@@kevindube7096 True
And yet he licks his balls.
it's sheer human arrogance, nothing more. You can discuss what it means to be "sentient" for hundreds of years and never reach a concensus, but literally every complex lifee form on this entire planet has the capacity for personality, and most of them do.
Each of my 30 rats over a span of 8 years had an individual personality, some of them quite complex. As were my two gerbils and Syrian hamster.
My dogs and cats over the years have been individuals.
My friend's horses, his farmer neighbour's cows.
Hell, if you're a pro wrestling fan, check out William Regal talk about his monitor lizards and how they behave.
But noooooo, nothing can ever be as complex and evolved as a human.
The words "Chimps" and "Peace loving" never belong in the same sentence
the only animals to go to war, emus “am i a joke to you?”
I think one could say they SURVIVED a war…
Of course I know you're making a joke, but to be serious... the emus I think you're referring to (an embarrassing bit of Australian history) didn't actually go to war -- they were trying to evade slaughter by humans.
@@jaybee9269 they actually won the war
Emus fought back and earned the respect of the Aussies. That’s why they’re now eligible to serve in the military and work for ASIO.
If you search for it you'll probably find it here on UA-cam but Ravens are capable of the same level of abstract thought. In the experiment I saw a raven essentially did the same thing with a stick to get a treat.
Ravens are one of the smartest animals on the planet they can plan manipulate and teach.
Ye it was on Christ packam’s animal enstiens
Ravens are not found in my country but I have observed crows doing some extraordinary things. There were 1-2 crows sitting on a wall, a lady threw some rice and pieces of bread for these crows. Now instead of eating the rice these crows started calling their other group members, they flew in air, went around while yelling Kaw kaw kaw..... In about a minute or so, the place was full of crows, there were about 10-12 crows there. I also witnessed them sharing food with each other. There were a few unlucky ones who didn't get to eat, so the crows started sharing food with each other. I was watching them from my balcony. Fascinating birds. They are so intelligent.
Magpies are even smarter. Can even recognize themselves in the mirror
@@robertofilipe8605 ravens can do it too
One thing is actually sort of missing from this story. After the Kasakela wiped out the Kahama, they tried to expand their territory in the opposite direction due to their confidence. Their plans didn't go as they intended and were wiped out by the neighbor community.
Oh wow. Some irony there.
Some live by the sword vibes
Interesting, thanks for info. I'm glad they failed. Makes me mad to think of them killing their former friends, 5 on 1 like that.
Lol😂
I remember when the fact that chimps use tools was revolutionary.
I've read about this story before and here's what interests me, not that they executed a premeditated attack but that somehow Humphrey was able to communicate his intentions to his leutentants.
They must have a sophisticated language of some sort that we have not even noticed.
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If aliens are real and are observing us, I'd like to think that somewhere out there there is an alien version of Thoughty2 making videos such as this, but about us and our history.
👽
Planet of the humans
If they are they are not.
Teaching a gorilla sign language was amazing. Finding out orangutans figured out how to fish on their own is amazing!
Excellent episode, thank you and your team for all of the hard work and the grind to produce all this greatly entertaining material.
You're the only UA-camr that got me through surgery. Thank you Thoughty2 🖤
Wow.. as soon as I read this comment I had to comment. 1 year ago, exactly 1 year ago, in April 2022 I became seriously ill, stayed sick for days on end.. I could do nothing but just lie on bed take meds wait for treatment.. and watching videos from Thoughty2 really made me feel better even in that terrible state of my health...
Look up The WF Files.
It's surprising that by the 1970's they didn't understand animals had their own personality. I knew this by the time I was 10 years old and had my 2nd dog. Every dog I've ever owned had his own personality. I don't think Jane Goodall learned this on that trip, and if so, these people have no conception of anything around them. Obviously if their dogs have a different personality, then the 2nd smartest animal on earth would too.
Theory : they were actually training for the revolution against humans
Read the title and knew it had to be the Gombe war. This event has always fascinated me!
I thought it was going to be about how if the universe is infinite then mathematically, somewhere out there, is a planet where chimps are the dominant species.
I think he said thoughty 2 this time. The bugger is obviously just laughing at us.
He always says thoughty2, no?
Just checked a video from 6 years ago, he says "Hey, thoughty2 here" at the start.
@@KulaGGin it usually sounds like he's saying 42 is the joke
Chewsday init
14:17 Frive 😂
That accent though. I can't not hear "forty-two".
It's amazing that they can organise like this with their own form of communication that doesn't rely on speech like we do
How do you know it isn't speech. Speech is just random sounds
I watched her documentary... I'm pretty sure the chimps would attack their camp on the regular. And she actually has a pretty tragic love story, unfortunately she put chimp research above her family
had a look at yer channel have subbed and pressed the bell hello from Scotland :D
Scotland! My fave people! Long live scotland
Not to discount the chimps, or any other apes for that matter, but Ravens use tools as well. If you're in the part of the world where Ravens live, you can see for yourself. Put some food under a wire cage in your front yard. The birds will sense it, but can't get to it directly. They will get a stick or anything like it, put it in their beak and push or pull it the the edge of said cage until they can reach it and eat it. So apes aren't the only ones to use tools
“Humans may be innately predisposed to war…but the doesn’t mean it’s true.”
The entirety of human history disagrees and would like a word with your leader…
Humans are addicted to war. There will always be something to fight for. Universal peace is an unobtainable dream.
@@jadencole8278 Don't forget its impact on technology.
@@jadencole8278 We can obtain it if liberals are in power around the world and democracy is strengthened. Liberals have a better neurological ability to feel the pain of others. It's these Right Wingers and Communists who are always causing conflicts.
@@haziblathif491 you're joking, right? We have liberals running America and they're the biggest warmongers in existence, you dolt.
what really brought humans into conflict was farming, before the Neolithic, groups of people generally avoided each other, but once they started farming they have a territory that they have to defend, they can't just move elsewhere.
Whether a chimp or human, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
i'm 53 and i've been a wildlife fanatic since i was a kid back in the early 70's and i never thought chimps were peaceful and harmless. i was just a boy and even i could sense that they were nothing to fuck with.
"Jane, stop this crazy thing!!"
George Jetson, 1977
👽She can't stop it... she's too busy grabbing his wallet !
"Jane. You Jane. Me Tarzan"
Tarzan: oh dear, the chimps are omnivorous killing machines, thus I can’t stop them from fighting against each other ever again.
Love your videos Thoughty2. Thanks for all the well researched stories on really interesting topics.
Ants have been waging wars against other ants for millions of years.
mogus
@@the.true.A bogos binted 👽
True. Ants Canada told me so
No body cares about ants
@@someone-vg9pq did you just call me a nobody
sounds more like genocide than a war to me. But the way they were startled to see them have personalities reminds me of my middle school biology teacher. It took me years to take biology serious after the damage that muppet caused :-D
Yes, more of a genocide than a war since it was one-sided but even more of a democide since the two groups had formerly been one.
Yeah, I remember our High School biology textbook had about 5 pages on Evolution. Wasn't until College when my Father saw his favorite Professor was still teaching and insisted that I take his History of Science class that I learned about Evolution. I was shocked to learn that Biology textbooks are just as bad today when I read my nieces High School textbook. Many things that were just flat out wrong. Calling Fungi non vascular plants. Fungi are in their own Kingdom, just like Plants and Animals. How could they get that wrong?
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 What are you two Talking about? It‘s not a GENocide and neither is it more like a democide. Or do chimps run a government? It‘s chimp warfare no need to overthink it
@@communistcomputergod6449
> _...do chimps run a government?_
So to say, yes. In this case, it was Humphrey who ran his group, whereas the brothers ran the other.
But I don't understand your argument: Why should a genocide or democide require a government and a war not?
@@jensphiliphohmann1876 democide requires a government. Obviously. Look The chimp war Argument was in reference To the fact That you were otherthinking it. as in “it’s just chimps killing each other don’t try to otherthink it” doesn’t mean that it’s actually that simple but I thought that you would get it. Forgot that Germans just don’t get subtly.
I like that it’s called a war instead of genocide when only one tribe is going around killing all the others
They killed only leaders and not women, children and non important men
“Return to normalcy”-Humphrey, 1974, probably.
“OI KARLIJA AÏJO” - President Humphrey Likjeivič of Greater Kinhasa, 1974
Looking at what the USA is going through, i can see two groups of apes fighting instead of working together.
Now we know all sorts of animals use tools. All mammals have personalities. You just have to spend time with them. Birds too.
Science still needs to discover the human mind and how it is different than the brain.
There are other animals that use tools but they use them in a different way to us. Most animals, they don't manipulate what they use for a tool to make it more useful; they just use the tool; and a lot of it is done by instinct instead of further thought being put into it. So like, there's primates that will take a stick and use it to measure how deep the water in a river is, or there are monkeys that use a rock to crack their nuts: all of these are examples of tool usage but they are using the tool in it's most simplest form and aren't manipulating the tool to make it more functionable. An example of this would be sharpening a stick against something to make it more useful so now you aren't just ONLY using the stick as a tool but you are manipulating said tool to make it more useful. You could say the chimps have already learned this type of elevated tool usage by removing all of the leaves off of their stick before sticking it into a hole for termite fishing. I can't speak for other animals but maybe some of them also have a goal to manipulate their tools in order to get better usage out of them. Also how do we know that these animals were using these tools millions of years ago or if they are just now recently(ish) evolving too; albeit at a slower and different rate than us. There isn't one definite answer to say what makes us, us; it's more of a recipe of different things and making intelligent tools is a maybe smaller part of it than we used to think.
@@TheSkullConfernece I challenge you to watch some NDE stories here on youtube and then explain how Dr. Eben Alexander's experience fits within your tidy materialist cubbyhole.
Possibly the difference lies in sapience as opposed to intelligence. Perhaps sapience is the mind and intelligence is the brain.
Its frightening how little we know about our own brains
For real, did nobody ever interact with an animal before the 1970's?
I arrived 6 minutes after upload and already been beaten by almost 2 thousand. Great video thanks for all your excellent content 👍.
I accidentally watched the *Gombe War* documentary/footage when I was quite young....yeah it’s disturbing... to say the least. Fascinating-but disturbing. 😳
A lot of these videos are about things I already know about, but he has so much fun describing them, I really enjoy listening to the narrative.
00:12 bro went from Caesar to Channing Tatum😂🤣😂
Keep em' comin!! Love the video, n as always Love the Moustache!!
You’ll give news channels Arun for their money.
@Trystan O'Dowd I won’t. Thanks for commenting.
@Thomas Buchovecky I’m sure garbage is in the “eye of the beholder “
@Thomas Buchovecky yeah I hate he sometimes he only show stock images and videos, but the storytelling is so successful. Like that bald guy who I always struggle to remember his name.
And this is exactly why uttering the words “it’s settled science” is one of the most ignorant things a person can do.
Covid
Climate change
Bezos small rocket took a blue pill
@@dr.floridaman4805 what you mean then you mention covid it is a virus how is any of it settled? The degree of our influence and its long term consequences is not settled.
The last one i dont get at all.
@@dr.floridaman4805 let the comments begin
Exactly
@@sargonyami4292 bezos wants humans to cut down their carbon footprint. Jeff Bezos launched his rocket the other day for a sight seeing space flight. In the trip he produced more carbon in one day than a small african nation does in a year.
Globalist elites have rules for you and a separate set for themselves.
They claim the settled science is they need to, you dont.
I'm near a single species study that's been going on for forty years. One can learn a lot over multiple decades. A seminar by its leader, a local professor, was fun and enlightening.
Let's not forget crows make and use tools as well.
Regular smart crow: I just figured out how to use a twig to draw termites out of this tree trunk!
Genius smart crow: Hey, guys! Look what happens when I set fire to gunpowder!
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc they also pass down memories to offspring. I've seen stress test that produce adverse reactions to the same mask. Yet the offspring has never been aware of the danger. Only associates it through memories passed down. It's pretty phenomenal.
Humans: We are the most intelligent species in the solar system
Aliens: Hold my Monolith....
funny cause the existance of aliens are just assumed by some scientist because there are planets that are ASSUMED to sustain life like earth, but no real proof whatsoever
@@debasketball1892 That's what the beings on alien planets think about our existence 😂 And yet here we are breeding in billions...
@@sicfxmusic bro you just sound like youre crazy talking about aliens as if its a normal topic 😂
@@debasketball1892 Exactly! I'm also fun at parties 😍
@@debasketball1892 it should be a normal topic, I mean it’s not like magic or something
Saw Thoughty2, I clicked so quick, I missed the title! 😂
"our peace loving hippie..."
me, though I already know there will be more to it: "mjeah actually...did you ever listen to the emergency call where a chimpanse eats the ladies' face Arran?":/
Even if I'm totally aware of the subject, your delivery, accent and mustache compel me to watch these videos. Great stuff.
Thoughty2 is my favorite information channel!! this is awesome
The real apes are people who argue over which platform is better
Apes actually have a much better memory than us humans we traded that for oral communication
And greater muscle control which is why they are stronger then humans.
Doubtful. I have photographic memory. I can relate my memories into real world actions. Drawing, writing, schematics.
If their long term memory was better then they would do better.
The human brain is the most complex matter in the universe. Not an apes.
@@dr.floridaman4805 We ARE apes. And if you have a photographic memory, you're definitely in the minority. Our brains are bigger and more evolved, but that doesn't mean they don't do some things better and more efficient than us. We absolutely lost some things when we developed our bigger, more modern brain.
@@Raccon_Detective. the strength is a function of the longer arms and leverage.
Memory isn’t THAT trade-off, it’s more about reducing our cognitive fixations of loss: revisiting trauma and reflecting dulls a memory, changing it slightly.
Man i keep seeing comments saying ants do war too, they do but they dont war with their own species there are different species that have war with eachother but an ant will never attack an ant of its own species
So ants are extremely based?
Seriously? I have just been interrupted by an ad for "MailChimps" just as Aaron was talking about the first casualties of the war.
Chilling.
Rest in peace Jane Goodall🍃🕊🍃
A wonderful and remarkable woman indeed
*Reject humanity return to monke*
Edit: Also the video has no dislikes, as it should be.
Return to bonobo
Please don’t change the title…
“Welcome to the Real Planet of the apes” is the first title, let’s see what it evolves into…
It's changed
24 mins later.....
"These Chimps Once Had a Full-Blown War in the Jungle"
But why does he keep changing the title?
He changed it. LOL.
No the title was first "These chimps had a full blown war" or something like that, he's already changed it.
It took me half way through this video to realize this is not gang wars! 😂
Thoughty2 is always here when I need him
Love your videos for two reasons. They are intresting enough during daytime. And at night time.. Your voice is the perfect for falling asleep 😂
Sounded more like genocide than war. But cool to know this occurs in nature.
they didn’t wipe out the mothers and children - just the males. definitely NOT genocide for pete’s sake !!!
@@feralbluee for pete's sake? Aren't You overreacting a bit? And thanks for the correction.
Being a D&D lover, I'm DEFINITELY going to make a chimpanzee wizard
Goodal: She’s lucky they never attacked her. She would not have survived.
That would be her approach. Not yours, right? It’s why Dr Leaky sent her out to the jungles, because all the belligerent arrogance of men was missing huge chunks of their behavior.
As you were re-calling the story (that I admittedly have heard before once or twice) I still could feel my respiration, and heartbeat increase. Well done!
Ants watching the whole video: am I a joke to You
Forget humanity let’s return to bonobo
ಠ_ಠ
Can we all return to germs?
“WAR! HUH! What is it good for!?!” …murdering your rivals, apparently. 😐
@Robert Stallard Based😎
@John Barber Well, on the dominant side. The other guys tend to get their economy blown to smithereens… literally.
@Robert Stallard Hmm… just a couple of things to throw in the hopper with that… in no particular order.
Starting a war is inherently immoral. Entering a war that’s already started may or may not be, depending on circumstances.
Just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good (take Rabies for example: existed in nature long before we did, but you would be absolutely mad to wish you had it).
All of those things that you mentioned do proceed without a war… but having a spear digging into your back does tend to put urgency into the situation.
It only takes one party to start a war; but it takes everyone to have peace.
If you are defenseless, sooner or later somebody is going to attack you. Note that passive defenses do apply (being completely unreachable does go a long way, for example).
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@@ItzMike5 On occasion, that has been known to happen.
P.s. Personally, I have nothing but deep respect for all the Allied forces who turned back the sea of darkness during WWII.
Teach them coding and soon they will make they’re own version of UA-cam
We love you Jean Goodall,you have inspired as all. Thank you for your inspirational love .
Why did I expect a AMC/GME video🐒 hodl my fellow apes
Haha me too 😂
Lmao
I went to a Zoo once and had a monkey laugh at me 😃
"In January 1974, chimpanzees became the first species other than are own to declare war"
Me: *laughs in the video Kurzgagert made about ant wars
Kurzgesagt.
These comments have a sad lack of "gorilla warfare" jokes.
They are mostly by hot fans of Aaran, the presenter of this channel... I am not envious, neither a hot fan, just like him in some ways... I like how he speaks with humor and winks with one eye bigger than the other... I just have my own goals and friends from abroad and from my country, and this channel has not contacted me yet, so I guess, we are just staying put, some other fans did contact me though 😃
Love you for making all this
Hey Thorty 2 here
It must've been terrifying for Jane to witness this as first there she is bonding a little with these beautiful peaceful chimpanzees, then the next thing she witnessed them being killers & brutal killers at that. I wonder how she managed to stay safe studying them , as she may have been scared that if they turned on eachother, would they think nothing on turning on her? And she must've had a strong stomach to witness them tearing at the other chimps, drinking their blood etc. Ugh 😝
She probably got off on it a little. I heard she has a chimp kink to this day.
💥Whenever I'm in Fulton County Court Downtown Atlanta I feel like Charlton Heston.
If you're racist and you know it clap your hands
Yeah, know the feeling. I had to go there for a bogus traffic ticket. Luckily I knew enough to write a motion to dismiss, because the cop would not show up. I fired my defense attorney because she was talking with the prosecutor about a lunch date.
@@godsteeth1574 I find it odd how you assumed the race without him even saying the race of the people in court...
OMG so true. I even feel like screaming,.get your filthy hands off of me
@@godsteeth1574 nothing racist about making a simple observation. Seems as though you should be clapping your hands instead of virtue signaling to satisfy your narcissistic needs.
So far, up until 5:35 , it sounds like a story on
Humans: *Discovering their intelligence defined ego is overinflated or at least narrow-minded*
Also humans: *Surprised Pikachu face*
Theres more than inteligence for humans
I’ve noticed a very strange occurrence. Both Count Dankula and Thoughty2 use the same stories but with a decent difference in between. I really love having multiple perspectives on the same stories! Keep up the good work Thoughty2!
yeah its called Chicago
Don’t we technically already live on the planet of the apes since Humans are apes? P.s made this comment before watching video.
My thoughts exactly
That’s the most dumbest thing I’ve ever heard . We did not come from Monkeys or chimpanzee . God created us . We are from the seed of Adam and women come from the seed of Eve ..
@@charleswilson9480 how does a man walking on water and making a whole universe in 6 days make more sense then evolution
@@charleswilson9480 Humans are part of the great ape family. The same family that includes Gorilla’s, Chimps, orangutans and others. There is nothing disturbing about that. I stated a fact and that is Humans are apes.
@@charleswilson9480 "the most dumbest"
'''I really love it when the notification shows up, "Someone liked your comment" and "you have a new subscriber'"
Joe Rogan would love this
I mean every cat, dog, bird, and horse I've ever gotten to know had it's own personality.
CORRECTION @ 1:14 1st time another mammal was documented going to war not the first time another species was documented going to war. We've known ants war for a long time.
People will be going *APE* over this!!
Thank you .... I'll see myself out!!😎😎
Jane Goodall was actually kinda cute when she was young. Just saying.
I thought this was going to be a story on Lori Lightfoot and her admin.
Very interesting.
Thankyou for the upload & the information. 👍👍👍👍
Scientists be like: yo guys turns out these animals aren’t actually mindless sandbags and they actually have feelings and emotion
Today research still continues in our neighborhoods.
Wow, leave it to science to “discover” and declare something that anyone with common sense and eyes ALREADY KNEW (I.E., most individual animals have unique personalities let alone chimps). Humans had also observed animals using tools too. Only difference is they didn’t publish it in a scientific journal. It doesn’t take anthropomorphic projection to see this. I bet farmers and ranchers got a kick out of this amazing declaration. lol
Jane Goodall and the chimps she studied are PURE LEGENDS.
Thoughty, you break me up everytime. "Those hairy boogers!"
Always love your videos. Thank you! A nightly watcher!