20 Gauge Pattern Test | HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT??
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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This video is a test to see how the Benelli M2 20 Gauge patterns. I had 3 boxes of shells to use for this test and the results were very surprising.
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We have a Caldwell lead sled that we use for sighting in our rifles and slug guns and it works well for doing pattern tests on our waterfowl guns as well. Removes the human error of flinching, etc.
The velocity difference will literally be a inch or three when it actually comes down to lead difference. That doesn't throw your shot off.
Boss #4s and don’t look back! Love them things so much. 20 and 12 absolutely punishes big late season honkers here in Missouri but still great pellet counts for dense patterns on ducks as well.
Did you have any problems with cycling in the 20?
@@kylecantu7785 I have not and I’m on my third season shooting boss #5s
Every Benelli I've patterned has worked really good with Hevi shot and Kent ammunition
Kent 2.0 faststeel runs 1550 FPS in 7/8th 20 gauge.. or 1350fps in 1.18th oz 20 gauge.
I run Hevi metel bb for geese. Hevi steel #4 for ducks and Kent fast steel 2.0
#2shot for all around.
My dad is looking at getting the M2 20ga and will definitely like this video
A 3 inch 20 gauge and TSS loads makes it a up to 60 yard goose smasher. With a full choke or even an improved modified choke.
In general in my 20 gauge experience I like a really tight pattern and then It’s all on me to hit my shots, if you aren’t a good enough shot to hit tight pattern shots rather then using a wide pattern and wounding birds you should be shooting a 12 gauge
I love shooting my 20g I can shoot 40yards consistently with #2 black cloud with an extended long range pattern master
This mans out here shooting legit gold😂 who else can’t find 20g ammo🙋🏻♂️
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Not sure what state you are in but Washington state never ran out of 20gauge.. Walmart and sportsmans warehouse are always fully stoked all through 2020 and now 2021.i never had a problem getting 20 gauge non toxic.
The thing I cant find is 12 gauge 3inch or 3 1/2.
Bro it’s ridiculous, i live in Texas and still can’t find 20..
I still have trouble finding it. I find more 16 and 28 than I do 20.
#3’s are my go to for ducks. It’s a little bit smaller than a number two but still has the knockdown power with more pellets. I use Federal blue box. I don’t recommend using anything under a number two for geese.
Phil Robertson from duck commander swears by #3shot!! Smaller then 2 shot. More pellets and more knockdown then 4 shot.
I’m on my 3rd season with that gun and I love Boss #5s. I’ve shot ducks, pheasant, geese all with that load. I also swapped out to Carlson cremator chokes and use the ER 90% of the time. I would swap out the recoil pad to a limb-saver. The factory one is not durable and I baby my stuff, I also found that I was not mounting the gun consistent and shot so much better when I swapped to a standard cut pad.
20 or 12 gauge?
@@austinevans3718 20 gauge
You either had wind or your gun is throwing the pattern a little right. With 2 of the loads the center of the pattern was right. I would pattern with a good rest so you can be sure it isn't you throwing the shot or maybe it is the gun/choke. If you want to extend your range then think about a choke that allows you to do that. Most folks go to a 20 with the intention of keeping shots in decoying range but with some of the loads/chokes out there now you can even extend out with a 20. Just depends on your pocketbook.
Great video!!! I like using two Light Modified chokes in my Beretta o:u 20ga when duck/goose hunting with 3” #2 steel. The pattern is more consistent out of my gun. Whereas if I put in modified chokes, the #2 steel has a worse pattern at 40 yds. Man I still remember my last waterfowl hunt using lead #4’s on ducks and #3 on geese. That was in 1990, that last season for lead shot.
great video man. always look forward to the uploads
My 20 ga combo is an sx4 with a carlson creamator mid range and Kent faststeel #4. Pattern density is awesome at 40 yards. If your only hunting ducks stick to the #4s.
Super effective watch blue collar out doors they will set you straight with all kinds of chokes and loads will save you time and money.
I shoot a 20 and I know this is gonna sound crazy but I prefer an extra full choke with hevi shot #6 or migra #2/#4
I shoot winchesters 12 gauge 2 shot and hevi steel as well personally I like the Winchester’s more because there cheaper and easier to find when there’s ammo on the shelves
I’ve got the same exact gun, i patterned mine at 35 yards with hevi hammer #3’s out of a jebs .585 and i was getting 27 pellets on the duck using the birchwood casey targets
I shoot Stoeger 20 ga 28”, modified kicks high flyer ported choke, #2’s hammer shells for ducks and decoying geese.
Good trial run on the pattern board out of your M2. To my surprise, the Hevi-Hammer did very well out of the gun and choke combo. I would attribute this to the quality of the steel shot being used, the smaller #3 pellet size, and the slower velocity. The 15% of bismuth in that load is a total gimmick. Out of the entire shell there were maybe 15 to 20 #3 Bismuth pellets I could count on camera (which is at or less than 15% of the payload weight/count), so those pellets are doing absolutely nothing for you but driving the cost of the load up.
I would say that if you want to improve your patterns with the #2 pellet Federal blue box load, I would go to a IC or light mod choke. The erratic nature of the pattern is indicative of bridging due to too tight of a choke being used and the pellets being forced into each other (which causes disrupted flight as steel/iron shot is not malleable like other shot types and it will literally ricochet off each other), and this is easy to do with #2's in a 20 bore being that the shot size is a bit large for the bore. #3's and #4's in steel shot will do better in the Modified choke tube, at the cost of effective range. I would also re-test at some point with the lighter constriction chokes at 30 yards so you have a more full picture of how that shot charge is spreading over distance.
To be honest, if you want 40 yards with your 20ga, you'll need to go to a denser shot material (and not a mixed material shot load either) such as bismuth, ITX, or Tungsten-Iron. But, if all of your shots are going to be at 30 and less as you say in the video, play with your Federal Blue Box load using lesser constriction chokes when using the #2 pellet and you should improve your patterns and results on birds.
4:34 Notice that dove coming within range but saw the shotgun, so it took off before getting peppered!
I do think the "pattern spread" isn't as much personal preference as it is game being chased. Commonly its looked at size of game and "hardiness" of the game being chased. For like grouse/woodcock a "less condensed spread" is so called better because it takes less pellets to kill the bird. vs Ducks/Geese it commonly thought a more condensed spread is better because you will get more pellets on those birds. Just what I have gather over the years. I could definitely be wrong though.
Great comparisons, I’m a cheapie for shells so I shoot when ducks are close🤩
I think you should try number 4 or 5 bismuth in 1, 1 1/8 or 1 1/4 Oz loads. You’ll get much more out of your 20 that way. 7/8 Oz of steel shot ain’t doing you or the 20 gauge any favors.
I bought a new M2 20 ga earlier this year. Like it. Really like 20 my montefeltro as well. As far as shell comparison I’d really like to see your federal 1550 compared to say the Boss at 1350 FPS. Patterning, chronographing and penetration in ballistics gelatin say at 40 yards. Ive heard so many mixed reviews on bismuth loads. I’ve found with my M2 12 I use my II notch choke for really tight patterns on steel.
Federal alllll the way ! I use kent fast steel sometimes it patterns really well too.
Good vid bud,,,,,i love the pattern test vids
Try some normal steel shot like Kent's or dryloks you'd be surprised
The hevi hammer is total killer out of my benneli m2 20 gauge I shot them all season and great results
What choke?
i reload my 20ga ammo, 22-23 grns longshot 1oz BBB,BB,B,1-4 at 1450 to 1525 FPS
Try a sk1 choke. I think shooting birds close 10-25yds you will be a lot happier with the patterns width and even spacing. Cheers
How is 69% on the herters worse than 55% on the federals?
I just switch to a 20ga also!
If you were hoping for patterns why didn’t you use Full or Extra Full choke? Tight patterns is the purpose of full constriction afterall.
At least that's what I've seen with my 20 gauge Remington it likes the herters
With those long shots u have to shoot a full it’s so much more helpful
So 20 gauges just have less shot and that’s why people seem to get confused about “power difference” between 12 and 20s
I found the Kent Fasteel 2.0 #4 20 gauge has almost the exact amount of pellets as a #2 12 gauge. Shooting at about the same FPS. Your pellets are just going to be a little bit smaller.
@@alexanderhovis1149 that's my go to 20 guage load. Patterns great and doesn't break the bank
Just a thought..kinda looks like you're overchoked a bit. Maybe a .605" light modified.
Do another 20 gauge ammo test,,, winchester super x,, Kents,,, Fiocchi,,
Greit video! Would be great if you tested more brands of shells aswell👌🏼
Freaking awesome review, literally about to get the same gun and was looking to see if someone patterned different loads. Thanks man 🦆
Great video and comparisons. Next time use a white target so we can see the pattern better.
Same gun with boss 5 through the factory full or improved mod are bad medicine for honkers and ducks. For turkeys boss Tom 9s.
Good review.
Enjoyed the video . But the way it stands for now I will keep shooting my 12 ga. because I still have plenty of Steel Shot and I`m not seeing any 20 ga. Steel Shot on the shelfs so I`m not going to buy a 20 ga.
Would you use a 20ga for sea duck hunting? Thanks for any information.
Yes
Josh we can’t see a thing on the target
Is a 20 gauge effective as a 12 for long distance shots ?
If you are using the same shot size and speed then you should have no range difference, you will only have less pellets in the air.
Nice thx for doing this
How is the Herter's worse than the Federal with a high % of pellets in circle at 40yrds?
My cheap Stevens 20 gauge with Carlson’s cremator mr and lr patterned really good with black cloud 3s compared to hevi metal and hammer . Great video man
Is this the M2 Performance Shop version?
at 1350fps leading a target is critical and I would go with no less than 1450
Cant find steel shot for sale anywhere....
I have a Remington 870 20 guage and shot herters and it DESTROYED buffleheads
Nice bro
Looks like imma have to buy a new shotgun in one of the following calibers
20 ga 28ga 16ga
Lmao can’t find any 12 that all the I can find in steel loads
It’s dumb like let’s hoard #8 leads so when a guy wants to go shoot some clays he can’t
Normally I shoot speed shok, but I can’t find any, yes September is 4 months out but if I don’t start looking now I won’t be able to get any,
Just have some left over 2s
I want to find a case of 4s and bb so I’ll be set for the rest of the year
Why don't you use a imp. Mod, or a full, but I head shoot
shoot some BOSS shells, want to see how they pattern
Your looking for a tight pattern but were using a modified choke? Dont make much sense.
Nosh we can’t see a thing
You said Herters 69% and federal 55%, then go to say federal had more pellets on target.
BOSS SHELLS
Get a full choke
You'd crap if the cheap herters does the best
Nice ❤️❤️
Really should use a rest…