Can we please consider 2nd styles of each arcana? Its a huge part of it. The design and system of getting the 2nd style. Is it too easy like jugg's arcana? Is it too hard like spectre's arcana? Is it intuitive like wraith kings and pudge? Is it rewarding? Is it satisfying once you earn it or do you find yourself choosing the default style? Like the pudge's arcana is fine with both styles but the spectre's and faceless 2nd style is such a great color change and style. Id never take the default over the 2nd. I think thats something to consider.
Yes, the next episodes will consider the second styles in the visual design. And don't worry, I'm gonna catch up with the second styles from this episode and the previous one
I think you should also consider immortal items that are existing before the arcana was made. Thats why some arcanas that have spells that overlays on top. Juggernaut for example have many good looking spin effect, the arcana is just the icing on top to fit those spins
@@rub33dota I thought about doing that, but decided against it. If Valve is gonna charge 35 big ones for a skin, I'd want it to be the absolute best it could be. I shouldn't have to buy other items to "complete" a $35 cosmetic
You were actually on spot on Voids arcana, he really became the being he wants to kill. Though his arcana animation sometimes do look stiff which is ironic for the amount of tentacles he has I agree on the Jug arcana, it's just BLUE(or Orange style 2) all over the place. Sure the new direction of making the arcana no longer stick with the "original mask" splitting but a possibility of different masks is kinda nice, still it is SCREAMING with BLUE and got that poor animation treatment. Though I wish you go talk about the different styles of these Arcanas, Note Worthy would be ES, Drow, Venge, Skywrath and PA
I don't think I've ever seen anyone interview samoa joe about his VA works coz he's damn good at it as much as his wrestling and is definitely underrated
I'm hopeful that Time Zone will be given effects... at some point. Who knows when. But people actually pick and use time zone because its been given so many buffs, and the chrono facet doesn't have the extra bonus now. The thing about Valve is that they like to push a lot of ideas, some of which they remove later. When it isn't item related, they usually keep the effects to a minimum. Mirana's leap shard used to just use dragon slave, which is obviously super lazy. But they eventually got it into a decent state, and then they added proper effects for it. Given how Time Zone is already good just a few months after it was created, hopefully we will see the chrono effect (or even a new effect :O) added to Time Zone.
Speaking of QoP arcana I wouldn't call her pay to win but being usually a pos 3 player with enough melee heroes played the whip animation for close distance attacks feels very good and smooth and maybe even helps me with last hits. Maybe. But it's still a joy to whip creeps and heroes. And don't get me started on possibilities how you can customize this bitch with different items, immortals and stuff maybe for spell effects, the beauty lies in more revealing clothing
Another good video, just something I noticed from when I've played the Jug arcana voice pack broke when they separated pudge and jug cosmetics from the arcana base, so the mask and back slot and made it so the arcana is the body base slot or whatever they called it, that separation always made jug voice the sfx version even if you have voice pack equipped
Some skins you can combine with the 1st form to make great combos for Juggernaut i used to hate the 1st form 2 because he looks like he has cartoon stink effects coming out of hit but i realise i am dumb and it looks great some stuff really looks great with him just dont use light red cosmetics
I didn't think it was worth mentioning but since you brought it up I'll say something about it: It was better before they put the hat and cane in it. I'm not a big fan of heroes just materializing comedy props out of nowhere for their taunts. I think it's not very creative, and lazy. Oracle's taunt is a wonderful taunt that uses elements of his own body for the comedy. It's way better than him just making a basketball hoop appear and dunking into it.
In the Demo you cant use Juggernaut Arcana origins for some reason also but not just that,not only do they not give Arcana Jugg new animations,his normal Jugg animations look silly and shit
Yes Jugg arcana was such a disappointment, good rating on that. You also gave Spectre arcana the props it deserves. Qop arcana was also a banger, I believe it was a pay-2-win arcana unfortunately.
well, for an arcana vote winner being placed behind a FOMO-style paywall, Spectre's kind of a disappointment because people thought there will be no more store arcanas(until VS and Sky arrived)
VERY good question! I've always wanted a Lion arcana where his demon arm completely takes over, possessing his body, turning it more demonic. His animations would be shaky and almost zombie-like, with the real Lion trying to fight against the demonic power claiming him.
@@wilsonsticks coool. He could have different styles from getting kills with Finger, with the demonic side taking over more and more and at style 3 or 5 Lion was fully converted and no longer fight against it, just got fully possessed. But not in game styles like Monkey King, but unlockable and available everygame to choose
I want Nightstalker arcana centered around his wings. During daytime, the wing stay small and dormant. During nighttime, the wing become bigger, ns posture is leaning forward , and the atk animation become more feral and ferocious. When ult is activated, he grow 2 more pairs of wing, and the ult sound effect is more eerie and persists until the ult duration ends.
Probably outside the scope of this series, but I would be curious to see what your opinion/review of the Arcana's in conjunction with various sets are. For instance QOP as you mention feels 100% intended to use her immortals. Jugg likewise feels more designed for synergy/avoiding breaking other sets than for actually standing on its own. However Specter, while an amazing Arcana on its own, is hardly functional with any other set, they all sorta don't match coloration/placement.
I think Valve should try to make the arcanas fit with other sets as much as possible. The whole reason we have different item slots is so we can mix and match sets together. Valve should promote creativity because not only does it boost sales, but inspires the creativity of the playerbase to make something cool. The best example of an arcana that does this is the Drow arcana. Extremely versatile with her other sets.
@wilsonsticks see now I need the fashion reviews bonus episode. In my mind drow sets work pretty poorly with the arcana. While they don't look bad, they all kinda lose their cohesion.
@@doriangrayest iirc it's face. Spectre's immortals were updated to have three styles, one original and two for arcana. Likewise some immortals for ES and Rubick were changed to have additional styles.
Nice video, but if i may, can you also review the style 2 of the arcanas too? Some style 2s are way better than the default (for me Drow, Venge, Sky, Wraith King, Jugg) and some style 2s are just bad (for me its Razor and Ogre)
Jugg Arcana was a coup from Valve. The 2016 Arcana Vote's Final was Juggernaut VS Io the Wisp. The meme players actually teamed up I got that lame ball into the final vote and you can bet all playerbase that wasnt a weeb voted for it. Note that IO didnt have a single item until then, while Juggernaut always had love and had cooler sets than the arcana already. Any workshop item (the very few) were really underwhelming, boring, simple and you bet Valve didnt have anything better in their hands. Also, what would sell more upon lauch? Juggernaut, the King of Weebs, The Nooblord, or the least played hero across all brackets with an unpractical solar system base model with no personality? So they did a coup and announced Juggernaut and crafted this generic lame ass arcana to get the big bucks while the Wisp arcana was rewarded in the next year in the Compendium, unlocked at a super crazy high level. So even with the Io Arcana they managed to get big bucks, even if most players only got it as a collateral from buying compendium levels anyway. The Portal Cube while iconic is a trash arcana tho. The Aztec deathball immortal is way cooler
@@wilsonsticks FR I actually made an Io Effigy and without the particles that thing is worse than a XIX century atomic model. However I believe some inner pieces got added with the arcana because the Cube''s inner movements look just live the aztec deathball inner movements like a rubik cube
"unlocked at a super crazy high level", it was nothing crazy, you unlocked it at lv245 (FV''s Arcana was at lv495 and Razor's at lv383) and you could have leveled up for $97 bucks and that is assuming you didn't get any free levels. You are just butt hurt for some stupid reason, it has been 7y
@@icroosing What???? 245 isnt high level? It was literally impossible to achieve without spending more cash than the starter battle bass. You think paying 97$ is cheap???? Do you realize Dota is played beyond dollar/euro regions? In most of South America, China, SEA, 97$ is easily more than 25% of a whole family monthly income.. 97$ is a lot of money for most Americans still. Jesus man, how self centered can you be? I have grinded every battle pass and could never afford those insane levels for the Arcanas. They are .JPGs files. There is no reason other than abusing the FOMO from spoiled kids like yourself to get money. Damn I will spend the rest of my week just shocked by this statement Btw your reading skills are really lacking if you think I was butthurt for not being able to afford the Cube IO Arcana
Not currently. I made a video a bit ago where I reviewed the Crownfall Collector's Cache without a script or coherent thoughts lmao. But making a top ten could be an interesting idea. . .
Some arcanas that you gave low ratings done poorly because of big amount of imortatls and other sets which is mathces with arcana. I don't say you are wrong.
@@souljam4316 I know they fit well with the immortals, but if Valve really expects you to use the immortals with the arcanas, why not put the immortals into the arcana bundle? Oh right, they'd lose profits from that
@@saznak.x3 It is too late my friend. Already I have rated, and I will continue to until this UA-cam page is FULL of terrible takes. The reckoning of all bad opinions is upon you
love this series.. hope you get more spotlight you deserve
Me as well! Hope you enjoy the later parts, too :)
What pops out at you immediately…. That’s right the EYES 😂
14:50 the swirling green lights are from his Facet
Ah, thank you for pointing that out. I honestly thought it was part of the arcana lmao.
very excited for part 3
Can we please consider 2nd styles of each arcana? Its a huge part of it. The design and system of getting the 2nd style. Is it too easy like jugg's arcana? Is it too hard like spectre's arcana? Is it intuitive like wraith kings and pudge? Is it rewarding? Is it satisfying once you earn it or do you find yourself choosing the default style? Like the pudge's arcana is fine with both styles but the spectre's and faceless 2nd style is such a great color change and style. Id never take the default over the 2nd. I think thats something to consider.
Yes, the next episodes will consider the second styles in the visual design. And don't worry, I'm gonna catch up with the second styles from this episode and the previous one
This is starting to be my favorite dota channel I love your analyses
Thanks a bunch! Glad you're enjoying the content :)
Yes plz also discuss upgraded form:)
Will do!
@@wilsonsticks keep up the good work
Thank you for your videos. Feels really nice to see some chill Dota content. I hope your channel will prosper and grow! GL!!!
@@poohleerneploxo16 I'm hoping too! And I'm glad you're enjoying the content :)
i love how you can now use the jugg arcana without the mask now
Lowkey you are continuing what slacks abandoned: Explaining lores
Continuing Slacks's legacy will be tough work no doubt, and I'd be honored if I could even hold a candle to his work.
I think you should also consider immortal items that are existing before the arcana was made. Thats why some arcanas that have spells that overlays on top. Juggernaut for example have many good looking spin effect, the arcana is just the icing on top to fit those spins
@@rub33dota I thought about doing that, but decided against it. If Valve is gonna charge 35 big ones for a skin, I'd want it to be the absolute best it could be. I shouldn't have to buy other items to "complete" a $35 cosmetic
You were actually on spot on Voids arcana, he really became the being he wants to kill. Though his arcana animation sometimes do look stiff which is ironic for the amount of tentacles he has
I agree on the Jug arcana, it's just BLUE(or Orange style 2) all over the place. Sure the new direction of making the arcana no longer stick with the "original mask" splitting but a possibility of different masks is kinda nice, still it is SCREAMING with BLUE and got that poor animation treatment.
Though I wish you go talk about the different styles of these Arcanas,
Note Worthy would be ES, Drow, Venge, Skywrath and PA
I don't think I've ever seen anyone interview samoa joe about his VA works coz he's damn good at it as much as his wrestling and is definitely underrated
I also appreciate his Sweet Tooth performance in Twisted Metal. A VERY underrated actor
I'm hopeful that Time Zone will be given effects... at some point. Who knows when. But people actually pick and use time zone because its been given so many buffs, and the chrono facet doesn't have the extra bonus now. The thing about Valve is that they like to push a lot of ideas, some of which they remove later. When it isn't item related, they usually keep the effects to a minimum. Mirana's leap shard used to just use dragon slave, which is obviously super lazy. But they eventually got it into a decent state, and then they added proper effects for it. Given how Time Zone is already good just a few months after it was created, hopefully we will see the chrono effect (or even a new effect :O) added to Time Zone.
Idk man, Valve is sometimes lazy af, they won't even fix the passives from Lina and Razor Arcana, it's literally just an icon
Amazing content!
Thanks a bunch! Be sure to stick around for more :)
Enjoying these videos, God bless you too
And I'm glad you're enjoying them! :D
Youre my go to channel now for dota skin reviews
I am very honored :)
Speaking of QoP arcana I wouldn't call her pay to win but being usually a pos 3 player with enough melee heroes played the whip animation for close distance attacks feels very good and smooth and maybe even helps me with last hits. Maybe. But it's still a joy to whip creeps and heroes. And don't get me started on possibilities how you can customize this bitch with different items, immortals and stuff maybe for spell effects, the beauty lies in more revealing clothing
Another good video, just something I noticed from when I've played the Jug arcana voice pack broke when they separated pudge and jug cosmetics from the arcana base, so the mask and back slot and made it so the arcana is the body base slot or whatever they called it, that separation always made jug voice the sfx version even if you have voice pack equipped
@@crusaderdino2739 Ahhh okay. Duly noted
lightnings from mjolnir has shadowy tentacles
and also he has different color scheme on the alternate style of the arcana which is white and magenta
Pump out more videos man! Love the content!
@@ADJ161996 Will do!
But jug arcana have 2 forms i hate the 1st one but the second form is ok
You bring up a good point, and I think from here on out I'll talk about the second styles of the arcanas.
Some skins you can combine with the 1st form to make great combos for Juggernaut i used to hate the 1st form 2 because he looks like he has cartoon stink effects coming out of hit but i realise i am dumb and it looks great some stuff really looks great with him just dont use light red cosmetics
You missed the taunt of FV arcana
I didn't think it was worth mentioning but since you brought it up I'll say something about it: It was better before they put the hat and cane in it. I'm not a big fan of heroes just materializing comedy props out of nowhere for their taunts. I think it's not very creative, and lazy. Oracle's taunt is a wonderful taunt that uses elements of his own body for the comedy. It's way better than him just making a basketball hoop appear and dunking into it.
idk when they will release a Chen Arcana but that would be the best. CHEN GANG!!!
Wilsonsticks endorses CHEN GANG!!!
@@wilsonsticks big if true
Wait for another 100 years, Chen is just not popular enough for an Arcana
An undying arcana would be nice too
In the Demo you cant use Juggernaut Arcana origins for some reason also but not just that,not only do they not give Arcana Jugg new animations,his normal Jugg animations look silly and shit
Yes Jugg arcana was such a disappointment, good rating on that. You also gave Spectre arcana the props it deserves. Qop arcana was also a banger, I believe it was a pay-2-win arcana unfortunately.
well, for an arcana vote winner being placed behind a FOMO-style paywall, Spectre's kind of a disappointment because people thought there will be no more store arcanas(until VS and Sky arrived)
which hero do you personally want to have an arcana and how would you envision it?
VERY good question! I've always wanted a Lion arcana where his demon arm completely takes over, possessing his body, turning it more demonic. His animations would be shaky and almost zombie-like, with the real Lion trying to fight against the demonic power claiming him.
@@wilsonsticks here's a content idea
from all you social media accounts
"top arcana ideas from you the fans"
Very good idea, thank you for the recommendation :) I just need a bigger fanbase for such a video, I think.
@@wilsonsticks coool. He could have different styles from getting kills with Finger, with the demonic side taking over more and more and at style 3 or 5 Lion was fully converted and no longer fight against it, just got fully possessed. But not in game styles like Monkey King, but unlockable and available everygame to choose
I want Nightstalker arcana centered around his wings. During daytime, the wing stay small and dormant. During nighttime, the wing become bigger, ns posture is leaning forward , and the atk animation become more feral and ferocious. When ult is activated, he grow 2 more pairs of wing, and the ult sound effect is more eerie and persists until the ult duration ends.
Probably outside the scope of this series, but I would be curious to see what your opinion/review of the Arcana's in conjunction with various sets are. For instance QOP as you mention feels 100% intended to use her immortals. Jugg likewise feels more designed for synergy/avoiding breaking other sets than for actually standing on its own. However Specter, while an amazing Arcana on its own, is hardly functional with any other set, they all sorta don't match coloration/placement.
I think Valve should try to make the arcanas fit with other sets as much as possible. The whole reason we have different item slots is so we can mix and match sets together. Valve should promote creativity because not only does it boost sales, but inspires the creativity of the playerbase to make something cool. The best example of an arcana that does this is the Drow arcana. Extremely versatile with her other sets.
@wilsonsticks see now I need the fashion reviews bonus episode. In my mind drow sets work pretty poorly with the arcana. While they don't look bad, they all kinda lose their cohesion.
That would be a nice idea for some content; send in your custom Dota sets for me to review
What part of Spectre is the Arcana? Because Spectre's Immortal is also very white and very bright, would work nice
@@doriangrayest iirc it's face. Spectre's immortals were updated to have three styles, one original and two for arcana. Likewise some immortals for ES and Rubick were changed to have additional styles.
Nice video, but if i may, can you also review the style 2 of the arcanas too? Some style 2s are way better than the default (for me Drow, Venge, Sky, Wraith King, Jugg) and some style 2s are just bad (for me its Razor and Ogre)
Yup! Definitely gonna go over that next vid :)
Jugg Arcana was a coup from Valve. The 2016 Arcana Vote's Final was Juggernaut VS Io the Wisp. The meme players actually teamed up I got that lame ball into the final vote and you can bet all playerbase that wasnt a weeb voted for it. Note that IO didnt have a single item until then, while Juggernaut always had love and had cooler sets than the arcana already. Any workshop item (the very few) were really underwhelming, boring, simple and you bet Valve didnt have anything better in their hands. Also, what would sell more upon lauch? Juggernaut, the King of Weebs, The Nooblord, or the least played hero across all brackets with an unpractical solar system base model with no personality? So they did a coup and announced Juggernaut and crafted this generic lame ass arcana to get the big bucks while the Wisp arcana was rewarded in the next year in the Compendium, unlocked at a super crazy high level. So even with the Io Arcana they managed to get big bucks, even if most players only got it as a collateral from buying compendium levels anyway. The Portal Cube while iconic is a trash arcana tho. The Aztec deathball immortal is way cooler
Such truth! Such boldness!
@@wilsonsticks FR I actually made an Io Effigy and without the particles that thing is worse than a XIX century atomic model. However I believe some inner pieces got added with the arcana because the Cube''s inner movements look just live the aztec deathball inner movements like a rubik cube
The only thing I love about IO arcana is that it sings 'Still Alive' when it kills a hero
"unlocked at a super crazy high level", it was nothing crazy, you unlocked it at lv245 (FV''s Arcana was at lv495 and Razor's at lv383) and you could have leveled up for $97 bucks and that is assuming you didn't get any free levels. You are just butt hurt for some stupid reason, it has been 7y
@@icroosing What???? 245 isnt high level? It was literally impossible to achieve without spending more cash than the starter battle bass. You think paying 97$ is cheap???? Do you realize Dota is played beyond dollar/euro regions? In most of South America, China, SEA, 97$ is easily more than 25% of a whole family monthly income.. 97$ is a lot of money for most Americans still.
Jesus man, how self centered can you be?
I have grinded every battle pass and could never afford those insane levels for the Arcanas. They are .JPGs files. There is no reason other than abusing the FOMO from spoiled kids like yourself to get money. Damn I will spend the rest of my week just shocked by this statement
Btw your reading skills are really lacking if you think I was butthurt for not being able to afford the Cube IO Arcana
Is there top 10 best looking collector cache video?
Not currently. I made a video a bit ago where I reviewed the Crownfall Collector's Cache without a script or coherent thoughts lmao. But making a top ten could be an interesting idea. . .
Yes eyes 😂😂😂
cool video.
Thanks a bunch! Glad ya liked it :)
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Some arcanas that you gave low ratings done poorly because of big amount of imortatls and other sets which is mathces with arcana. I don't say you are wrong.
@@souljam4316 I know they fit well with the immortals, but if Valve really expects you to use the immortals with the arcanas, why not put the immortals into the arcana bundle? Oh right, they'd lose profits from that
never rate again
@@saznak.x3 It is too late my friend. Already I have rated, and I will continue to until this UA-cam page is FULL of terrible takes. The reckoning of all bad opinions is upon you