I swear these people just work so Well together like if you have Jingliu's Ligthcone you get Extra damage from Blade bc he takes his own hp than in Jingliu's hp cunsum state she just builds the Stacks for Blade, and then theres Bronya that is just an insane Buffer that makes Jingliu take more turns and gives her more crit damage and lastly Luocha that just Auto heals so you dont need to use his skill at all and just keeps everybody happy and alive i will never get a better Team than this Team
You can check the exact number of how much energy you have when pressing on the character, it takes you to the screen where you see stats, buffs etc. right beside your hp you can see the energy "x/140" in Jingliu´s case
The in-game stats screen doesn't show the exact amount. For example, Pela's talent will never give you the exact amount shown on the description, it'll give you closer to an amount such as X.XXXXXXX (so if it says 6.7, it'd actually be something like 6.7376294) (not exact number)
You want ATK rope on Jingliu in all cases, except if you're running her with E6 Tingyun. In that specific case ER rope + E6 Tingyun will be able to consistently recharge Jingliu burst 1 turn faster which allows you chain together a longer enhanced state.
No they don't. Because of her talent (+180% ATK) Jingliu already gets a huge amount of ATK, meaning ATK rope has a lot of diminishing return. It only adds about 12% more total damage (4k~ ATK, 500~ extra damage) You'll get a lot more benefit out of ER rope and occassionally getting ult an extra turn sooner.
@@Tiasungyou’re objectively wrong. While sounding confident about it. OP is right about the case where ER rope is worth considering If your ER rope is letting you get your Ult one turn sooner on the 5th+ cycle you know it’s not worth it
i saved 4 months for her! got her e1s1, and ended up with two bronya eidolons so she's e2s1 now after the pulls. Jingliu is really amazing and just the dps i wanted, makes gameplay a walk in the park. i just need to get better boots and an orb primarily...
@@TetGodOfGames They meant that Jing Lius ult couldve still been buffed by Bronya if Moga pressed ult IMMEDIATELY after entering Enhanced state. I dont exactly know how and why but it works like that for some reason. By using ult while the character is still in the middle of an animation instead of waiting for their turn to end, it wont count as your turn ending yet so you still get to keep the buffs during ult. Its kinda like Seeles resurgence. Hopefully I worded that right, and if I was wrong about something pls do correct me.
@@crispyliciouschicken244 I get what you mean now, I was confused and thought just ulting with Bronya buff but not enhanced. I dont have Bronya so i didnt know.
I managed to get her lightcone, even at 1/1 (no dopes of either ) she’s basically killing everything @ level 50 ( day 8 ish of PS5) PS: she went from 3K to 7K damage with the LC.
although people are saying her lc isn’t necessary, it does give a lot of dmg boost to her. my jingliu’s skill with s3 aeon (with full setup) dealt 160k while s1 signature with full setup dealt 210k+
You can press C during combat and see the numeric amount of energy your character has at that point. That is probably a way better indication of ER% rope vs atk% than the wobbly visuals of the in-fight meter :)
>Everything goes into break effect I swear Hoyoverse coded it like that since they know everyone is farming for the set, I kept getting the same thing, in every damn relic, head, hand, body, you effing name it. break effect in all of them.
I never realised how insanely lucky I got with relics for Jingliu until watching this video for comparison. I’ve got her E0S1 with 144 speed, 42 CR and 250 CD, full ice set and rutilant arena while only having gone into the ice relic domain 3 times (and some glove synthesising afterwards). She’s insanely good and so much fun to play, especially when I pair her with my blade for a double DPS team. Definitely glad I pulled for her.
when testing energy gains, do know that killing enemies also give energy. also u can see how much energy a character have by opening their info in combat. its press c by default on pc
Shes honestly my favorite character happy I got her. I was starting to really get bored playing daily since before I got her didn't have anyone else I liked. Was stuck with a yanqing really despise him. Just need one more dps I love then account will be set, got great supports just not many dps.
I just started playing for real a few days ago and I’m glad I got into the game when I did because I just HAD to have her even with no artifacts she’s carrying me so hard I luckily also got e1 tingyun from her banner
Tomorrow is the double event planwr fissue so I'm going to farm W7 only. I need a better ATK rope. Yes Broken Kneel does stack. Before combat my JingLiu has 180 CD, in combat she has 200. She gets the 10 from Fu's BK as well as Tingyun's BL set.
I agree about Jing Yuan. I think Jung Yuan and Blade are made to be played on a dual dps ir with a sub dps. Gonna test Topaz with JingYuan, and i love to use Blade with Daniel.
I got jingliu but didnt have bronya was trying to reach level 35 to try and see if i get bronya but got bailu lightcone, i have bailu btw and then did a single pull nd actually got bronya so i m very happy 😊
Man I wish I had Bronya. It's nutty how much extra damage she allows Jingliu to do. Without Bronya's buff I can get Jingliu to roughly 80K damage while in her buffed talent state. Would be neat to see that number go into the six digit range.
Ah, the difference appears to still be my roster then. I don't have the roster set up to allow myself to put both tingyun & pela on the same team. Plus not having Bronya just depressing lol
I notice that every time there is a doble event, the stats on the item they drop is more horrible. I don't know if its just in my account. its like they baiting us to drain our energy
Moga did you see the guy that solos swarm disaster 5 with one character? Its pretty interesting and no he us not a whale He used stuff like clara and blade and used the blessings to solo it
Ever since I got my queen jingliu i rarely see a dmg under 100k. She made the game way to easy for me. It still sucks that i can't take a picture of her without her blindfolded 😢
when in camera settings turn character around twice then click idle action 2 as she turning around, her blind fold would permanently unblind folded until you go into battle or teleport.
Well.. the gear at start was definitely relatable, almost rage quit over Jingliu because of how horrible the gear farm/rolls went on her.. my gear isn't much better lol (probably worse actually)
I'll be honest, if you have a fast Bronya, speed is absolutely worthless on your main DPS. Go for the extra attack and just give all of Bronya's turns to Jingliu. As for energy rope vs ATK%, the energy regen just isn't worth it compared to the damage gain from another ATK% mainstat, especially if you roll half decent crit subs. Jingliu with >3000 ATK goes hard. People think Bronya should be speed tuned slower than their DPS. Those people haven't thought it through. Tune Bronya to be as fast as you can possibly make her, and it won't matter if her first turn comes before your DPS, cause she's gonna get two more before the cycle ends. If your Bronya gets three turns, your DPS gets three turns because Bronya is giving her turns to them, so forget precision speed tuning entirely and just make Bronya _go fast_ TL:DR: If Bronya is on the team, speed boots on the DPS are a waste of a mainstat.
She is literally good, her thing is to be quick, she deals good damage it’s just that she is meant to do damage faster then others. Just because she doesn’t deal 200k EVERYTIME she gets to attack doesn’t mean she is unplayable. People are so annoying
Moga you can you pls play tower of fantasy again it’s getting a new update and a new character I think you’d really enjoy and there’s new content(not an ad)
@@kukitalido nihilty, thats how i did, my team was, seele march gepard and luocha (u can use jingliu if u get the ice weakness on swarm also u dont need luocha, can use fu xuan to. Also try to get some disasociation. Last thing, get the resonance interplay with nihility and propagation, also try to get the special shield 3 star presevation card, make sure u ascend it tho.
Far and away Jingliu's best comp is Bronya and Pela plus any solo sustain unit. Due to the extra turns she provides, Bronya is far superior to any other harmony when paired with Jingliu. Running to buffers, like adding Tingyun, is going to run you into a diminishing returns problem on the buffs. In the case of Jingliu, Pela(especially at E4 where she gains ice res shred) is superior to Silver Wolf. This is almost entirely due to Pela having AoE def shred compared to Silver Wolf's ST def shred. Also, do NOT run ER link rope, its purely a DPS loss. Jingliu should have no problem using her ult once per enhanced state, andY yu should only be using Jingliu's ult when in the enhanced state since it hits like a truck and gives you an extra stack to boot. It is almost never worth it to use the ult outside of enhanced state, ie to enter enhanced state. You're leaving an upsurd amount of damage on the table by doing so
That's really low crit rate, honestly just go for broken set. Ice set 4 piece effect is really not worth it at all considering how much crit damage Jingliu has, I just go 2 pc speed and not have to worry about speed substats to get 135 speed.
Honestly, after getting Jingliu myself she really is just so lovely 😭
you can also try a bronya, luocha, blade and jingliu team as she can steal his hp for even faster stacks
I can attest to this combo, it absolutely melts even if ur enemies don't have ice or wind weakness
Once I tried this team there was no going back. I try playing other team comps. I just go back to these 4. It's too fun.
They did the math and it’s around 30% worse than bronya/pela/jingliu but it is viable
I swear these people just work so Well together like if you have Jingliu's Ligthcone you get Extra damage from Blade bc he takes his own hp than in Jingliu's hp cunsum state she just builds the Stacks for Blade, and then theres Bronya that is just an insane Buffer that makes Jingliu take more turns and gives her more crit damage and lastly Luocha that just Auto heals so you dont need to use his skill at all and just keeps everybody happy and alive i will never get a better Team than this Team
One thing to note about your ERR rope test, is that jingliu gets 20 energy from her skill (so same as basic) but 30 energy per enhanced skill.
You can check the exact number of how much energy you have when pressing on the character, it takes you to the screen where you see stats, buffs etc. right beside your hp you can see the energy "x/140" in Jingliu´s case
The in-game stats screen doesn't show the exact amount. For example, Pela's talent will never give you the exact amount shown on the description, it'll give you closer to an amount such as X.XXXXXXX (so if it says 6.7, it'd actually be something like 6.7376294) (not exact number)
You want ATK rope on Jingliu in all cases, except if you're running her with E6 Tingyun.
In that specific case ER rope + E6 Tingyun will be able to consistently recharge Jingliu burst 1 turn faster which allows you chain together a longer enhanced state.
No they don't. Because of her talent (+180% ATK) Jingliu already gets a huge amount of ATK, meaning ATK rope has a lot of diminishing return.
It only adds about 12% more total damage (4k~ ATK, 500~ extra damage)
You'll get a lot more benefit out of ER rope and occassionally getting ult an extra turn sooner.
@@Tiasungyou’re objectively wrong. While sounding confident about it.
OP is right about the case where ER rope is worth considering
If your ER rope is letting you get your Ult one turn sooner on the 5th+ cycle you know it’s not worth it
@@Tiasung🧢
I got Jingliu and her LC at early pity and she’s amazing. She’s so much more fun than Yanqing in my opinion
@@BasedHSVdudeI think the standard banner ice boy with a blond ponytail
i got bronya, JL + E1 + sig LC within 180 pulls
i saved 4 months for her! got her e1s1, and ended up with two bronya eidolons so she's e2s1 now after the pulls. Jingliu is really amazing and just the dps i wanted, makes gameplay a walk in the park. i just need to get better boots and an orb primarily...
don't force sets if your sub stats are bad
sub stats > set bonuses
set bonuses provide minimal stat buff, except for Vonwacq and maybe quantum set
If you press C during your characters turn your able to see the exact amount of energy they have, just for future reference
12:46 what coincidence to see moga there😂
Jingliu is like splash dmg Seele that doesn‘t need to kill the target and only use a max of 2 skill points ( and that even without the crit rate buff)
11:19 in fact, you could still have Bronya buff Jingliu's ultimate, you just had to use Jingliu's ult before her enhanced state animation ended.
Yeah I do that but with kafka
honestly isnt worth it though, enhanced states incraeses your ult dmg by 20%, 2k+ atk boost and just more reliable crit.
@@TetGodOfGameswhat op is saying is you get the bronya buff as well as your enhanced state buff for the ultimate
@@TetGodOfGames They meant that Jing Lius ult couldve still been buffed by Bronya if Moga pressed ult IMMEDIATELY after entering Enhanced state.
I dont exactly know how and why but it works like that for some reason.
By using ult while the character is still in the middle of an animation instead of waiting for their turn to end, it wont count as your turn ending yet so you still get to keep the buffs during ult. Its kinda like Seeles resurgence.
Hopefully I worded that right, and if I was wrong about something pls do correct me.
@@crispyliciouschicken244 I get what you mean now, I was confused and thought just ulting with Bronya buff but not enhanced. I dont have Bronya so i didnt know.
I managed to get her lightcone, even at 1/1 (no dopes of either ) she’s basically killing everything @ level 50 ( day 8 ish of PS5)
PS: she went from 3K to 7K damage with the LC.
Bro fully leveled and geared Jingliu easily does 100k+ on skill
I want good relics 😢😢
although people are saying her lc isn’t necessary, it does give a lot of dmg boost to her.
my jingliu’s skill with s3 aeon (with full setup) dealt 160k while s1 signature with full setup dealt 210k+
You can press C during combat and see the numeric amount of energy your character has at that point. That is probably a way better indication of ER% rope vs atk% than the wobbly visuals of the in-fight meter :)
woah, anyway to do this on mobile?
@@cocoapuff_x bottom left button while in combat
>Everything goes into break effect
I swear Hoyoverse coded it like that since they know everyone is farming for the set, I kept getting the same thing, in every damn relic, head, hand, body, you effing name it. break effect in all of them.
my dan heng pieces were all rigged with effect hit rate it's like hoyo was asking me to build welt
Same wth. And when I build my support units all the stats went to crit rate.
I never realised how insanely lucky I got with relics for Jingliu until watching this video for comparison. I’ve got her E0S1 with 144 speed, 42 CR and 250 CD, full ice set and rutilant arena while only having gone into the ice relic domain 3 times (and some glove synthesising afterwards).
She’s insanely good and so much fun to play, especially when I pair her with my blade for a double DPS team. Definitely glad I pulled for her.
i luckily got her E2 and shes nutty as hell, really love her play style and she does so much damage
you can just look at the in battle character menu to see exact energy amount
when testing energy gains, do know that killing enemies also give energy. also u can see how much energy a character have by opening their info in combat. its press c by default on pc
just a note you can look at your status screen and to the left of the character name it will show their energy in number form ie 75/120 energy
was watching while playing and my jingliu and his jingliu ulted at the same time lmao
You can run atk main stat boots.
Shes 105 base with traces.
Three rolls of 6 and three 4s is enough to get her to 135.
Then just e rope and stack CD.
This will probably be my end game goal. My relic luck is also abysmal though so I'll prob be farming for months for this.
Mines on atk boots. Sadly I failed to get her any speed substats. 3k atk, 54cr, 237cd, 105spd.
Not spending my sub stats on speed over crit damage. The extra atk isn't worth it.
@@Letheansound^
Shes honestly my favorite character happy I got her. I was starting to really get bored playing daily since before I got her didn't have anyone else I liked. Was stuck with a yanqing really despise him. Just need one more dps I love then account will be set, got great supports just not many dps.
I just started playing for real a few days ago and I’m glad I got into the game when I did because I just HAD to have her even with no artifacts she’s carrying me so hard I luckily also got e1 tingyun from her banner
Honestly at the beginning anyone is good! But this is a great character to start with!
As someone with over 40 architects orbs out of which 2 have def main stat (TWO!) I felt that intro in my bones, man.
Tomorrow is the double event planwr fissue so I'm going to farm W7 only. I need a better ATK rope.
Yes Broken Kneel does stack. Before combat my JingLiu has 180 CD, in combat she has 200.
She gets the 10 from Fu's BK as well as Tingyun's BL set.
the event increases the drop rate but decreases the stat chance at least that's what it feels like
i switched out pela for welt, since hes def shredding and slowing enemy's. i call it stop and smash. works great!
You can see how much energy a character currently has in the character screen while in battle right beside the hp bar
Got her E2 in less than 60 wishes 🎉🎉🎉 My beloved QUEEN
I lost the 50/50 to clara
Congrats! Got himeko and fuxuan on fuxuan banner so I have a guaranteed but idk if I can get her as I'm still at 45 pity and I only have 1 week left 😭
@@komaruu-just play a lot you got this! Have you done all events?
@@pretty.billy. just started aetherium wars and I'm pretty sure there's 1 more event before topaz
@@komaruu- good luck!! Your so close!
I’m so happy I got her! She was such a buff to my acc! Made moc 10 trivial
BABE WAKE UP MOGA POSTED 🔥🔥🔥
if you speed tune bronya and use ult off cooldown there is no difference between er and atk rope in terms of energy
I agree about Jing Yuan. I think Jung Yuan and Blade are made to be played on a dual dps ir with a sub dps. Gonna test Topaz with JingYuan, and i love to use Blade with Daniel.
I really luv ur voice I find it really soothing never gets old
I got jingliu but didnt have bronya was trying to reach level 35 to try and see if i get bronya but got bailu lightcone, i have bailu btw and then did a single pull nd actually got bronya so i m very happy 😊
Such a W , bronya is so goated! I have her e1s1 and I’m still choosing her for my 300th! She is just too stacked
Man I wish I had Bronya. It's nutty how much extra damage she allows Jingliu to do. Without Bronya's buff I can get Jingliu to roughly 80K damage while in her buffed talent state. Would be neat to see that number go into the six digit range.
I have her e0s1 and I can hit for 3 digits, with just Tingyun and Pela.
Yeah I use jingliu/bronya/pela/fu xuan and I hit for 300k in moc 10 first side
I have e0s1 20/240 but bronya is e1s1 175 crit dmg
Ah, the difference appears to still be my roster then. I don't have the roster set up to allow myself to put both tingyun & pela on the same team. Plus not having Bronya just depressing lol
@@grizzlyadams1929 have you used your 300th pull?
Be happy you got a crit dmg body at all. I went through all my fragiles so over 4000 resin(Genshin player lol) and didn't get one
Love using her with blade 😭
I notice that every time there is a doble event, the stats on the item they drop is more horrible. I don't know if its just in my account. its like they baiting us to drain our energy
love these videos keep it up
I have JingLiu... then got her LC with 2 pulls in banner... and yeah shes strong and super easy to build
Give some love this man doing all those test n maths.
Pela only needs 67% ehr for 100% chance to hit def reduction
finally cleare MOC 10 with jingliu, tried it with yanqing before but he doesnt cut it, so thankfully i got jingliu and cleared it finally
nice build for jingliu!
Bro the beginning of the video 😭😭 tho she's not acting but my 4 y/o cousin pulls off the same shit when going to school. Especially in winter.
you know u can just press C and look at how much energy do you have right? Instead of just guessing.
Everyone wishing for jingliu while I’m here debating turning my jades into normal tickets for bronya.
I cleared all memories of chaos mostly with Jingliu and she’s not even properly build… she’s broken😅
Moga did you see the guy that solos swarm disaster 5 with one character? Its pretty interesting and no he us not a whale
He used stuff like clara and blade and used the blessings to solo it
Ever since I got my queen jingliu i rarely see a dmg under 100k. She made the game way to easy for me. It still sucks that i can't take a picture of her without her blindfolded 😢
Fun fact. If you use her Technique it'll take off her blind fold for the duration.
Turn camera mode, hit Turn character around twice and immedieately do her pose 2 as fast as you can get, you'll remove her blindfold in camera mode.
when in camera settings turn character around twice then click idle action 2 as she turning around, her blind fold would permanently unblind folded until you go into battle or teleport.
What 4 set do you use?
@@cyber_dbs the glacier set
Drop sets, should've went for Stats instead
42cr/278cd 2900 attack does it for me ☕
Well.. the gear at start was definitely relatable, almost rage quit over Jingliu because of how horrible the gear farm/rolls went on her.. my gear isn't much better lol (probably worse actually)
where the kafka god mode?
Shocker, latest Star Rail char is yet again more OP than any other char before them.
No power creep here. /s
Would Yukong work with her?
Love your content
Does anyone have a guess when the inbibitor Dan banner is coming back
My relics were the same but instead of break effect I got effect res
I got a five star pill on her banner and got Gapared
I'll be honest, if you have a fast Bronya, speed is absolutely worthless on your main DPS. Go for the extra attack and just give all of Bronya's turns to Jingliu. As for energy rope vs ATK%, the energy regen just isn't worth it compared to the damage gain from another ATK% mainstat, especially if you roll half decent crit subs. Jingliu with >3000 ATK goes hard. People think Bronya should be speed tuned slower than their DPS. Those people haven't thought it through. Tune Bronya to be as fast as you can possibly make her, and it won't matter if her first turn comes before your DPS, cause she's gonna get two more before the cycle ends. If your Bronya gets three turns, your DPS gets three turns because Bronya is giving her turns to them, so forget precision speed tuning entirely and just make Bronya _go fast_
TL:DR: If Bronya is on the team, speed boots on the DPS are a waste of a mainstat.
And I thought my relics were terrible.
broken keel stacks? didn't know that
The power creep in this game is insane. I just want my queen seele to be good😭
she is good wym
She is literally good, her thing is to be quick, she deals good damage it’s just that she is meant to do damage faster then others. Just because she doesn’t deal 200k EVERYTIME she gets to attack doesn’t mean she is unplayable. People are so annoying
Seele is good, but you have to play her manually to get the most effective plays out of her. She is a great character if you like chess.
People coping hard on trying to ignore blatant power creep.
She is still good tho 😭😭😭
Pela is like Shenhe, right?
I wish I had Jingliu ,I've lost every single 50/50
SAME like 5 of them I’ve missed out on every character I’ve wanted the most
On one hand its nice to have a new broken dps, on the other its really unhealthy for the game to have a new best dps every single version
omg 78 flat def on boots
Moga you can you pls play tower of fantasy again it’s getting a new update and a new character I think you’d really enjoy and there’s new content(not an ad)
When I saw his relics I'm like I definitely have better relics than you
Pela needs 67% ehr I believe!
Getting some real FOMO from losing the 50/50 for her
mother is mothering
still can't beat the last swarm stage and mine is literally so so well built..
what path?
@@grbrah1198tried hunt and the freeze one
@@kukitalido nihilty, thats how i did, my team was, seele march gepard and luocha (u can use jingliu if u get the ice weakness on swarm also u dont need luocha, can use fu xuan to. Also try to get some disasociation. Last thing, get the resonance interplay with nihility and propagation, also try to get the special shield 3 star presevation card, make sure u ascend it tho.
WASSUP MOGA
You dont have a good quamtum set? The difference between the two sets is minimal, if you have good substats in a quamtum set is better
Broken keel stacks i have 3 characters with broken keel in one team.
Far and away Jingliu's best comp is Bronya and Pela plus any solo sustain unit. Due to the extra turns she provides, Bronya is far superior to any other harmony when paired with Jingliu. Running to buffers, like adding Tingyun, is going to run you into a diminishing returns problem on the buffs. In the case of Jingliu, Pela(especially at E4 where she gains ice res shred) is superior to Silver Wolf. This is almost entirely due to Pela having AoE def shred compared to Silver Wolf's ST def shred.
Also, do NOT run ER link rope, its purely a DPS loss. Jingliu should have no problem using her ult once per enhanced state, andY yu should only be using Jingliu's ult when in the enhanced state since it hits like a truck and gives you an extra stack to boot. It is almost never worth it to use the ult outside of enhanced state, ie to enter enhanced state. You're leaving an upsurd amount of damage on the table by doing so
17 Glacial Forest chests, 5 CR.... 0 CD.... I hate gear rng lol
mara mommy
dam she is soo good >;)
I got bailu from the 50/50. Its okay, Im fine. I will not buy any primogems
substats lv up is shit always hiting what you dont want
jinglu feels like double dong dan hung ( similar dmg) but like easier to built and play
helllo moga
I got clara😢😢😢
The only problem I have with Jingliu is that she can't use her technique and go in Relics or others domain and get a stack already
STOP SAYING “LEE YOU”
wow
the relic rng is worse than genshin ngl i got 3 sub ice orb (with both crits) and got only 2 crit rate rolls and rest in others
Ha
hi
nah she tough frfr
... Wow
Its the same battle mechanic as the most hated game on UA-cam
Raid shadow legends
LITTERALLY FIRST HII
That's really low crit rate, honestly just go for broken set. Ice set 4 piece effect is really not worth it at all considering how much crit damage Jingliu has, I just go 2 pc speed and not have to worry about speed substats to get 135 speed.
What's the "good" crit rate amount? The one in the vid was close to 75, is that not good enough?
@@LauderIX Yes, 75/220 is very skewed. I'd say the minimum is 85/200. 90/200 is what I'd say is the goal.
Dont worry Moga Hoyo games hate everyone when it come to relics you not special here.
For a guy that does so much testing, you dont know how to check a characters energy 💀