4 Hot Trees You Need On Your Deer Hunting Land
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2019
- The best wildlife and whitetail trees for your hunting land unfortunately will not deliver high values at the lumber mill. However, these 4 deer habitat gems will deliver an exceptionally high value for your hunting land! Are you managing timber or wildlife habitat? Make sure to never allow a "wildlife professional" to pursuade you to remove these 4 highly important deer habitat and wildlife tree varieties. Box elder, aspen, basswood and soft maple are money when it comes to creating great deer habitat, wildlife cover and quality deer hunting parcels. If your ultimate goal is to manage great wildlife populations, quality deer herds and a quality deer hunting parcel, them make sure that you have more of these tree varieties, and fewer high dollar hardwoods.
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Professor Coggeshall's favorite Silvopasture tree is the Swamp White Oak. See his three part video from Missouri Agroforestry. He claims it's acorns are preferred by whitetail deer and turkey over White and Bur Oak. It begins bearing acorns at five to seven years like a fruit tree. It bears consistent large mast from year to year.
I like the info you bring to the real hunting community!!! Thanks for keeping it real and not trying to sell us on BS..!!! You Rock Jeff!!
Box elders make good switches 😂.....my dad showed me that when I was young
🖐 me too!! Milk air lines, willow switch, surge Milker belt, snow fence slats.. you get my point..
Jeff, again a great video!!!!!
We also always referred to box elder as "junk trees" and tried to eliminate them until we found they were one of the best trees to survive hinge cutting and produce HORIZONTAL cover. We also had GREAT SUCCESS in clearcutting Aspen, as the regrowth from the root system produced phenomenal cover and deer browse...even the grouse enjoyed the younger Aspen.
Recovery is slow, looking forward to going over your info with my hunting partner!!! Really GREENING up here since the rain last evening, anxious to spray.
thanks, Bob
We enjoy your videos and long time subscribers in Jo Daviess County, IL. We're the guys you speak of that have been eliminating the Box Elders as prescribed in our forestry plan. Our main objective is timber production as our land is heavily populated with Black Walnut (and tons of deer). We have several bedding areas that are thick with red cedar that we will not disturb. The areas where hardwood regeneration is desirable will be free of Box Elders and other invasive species that all compete for sunlight. I guess the point is you can manage your land for both timber production and deer habitat. Thank you again for all of the excellent videos.
Great information. Thank you for all you do!
great info Jeff, thank you.
We have WMAs here being managed for oak savannah... they look like deer deserts.
Great video, thanks for the information as always. About time to get some mineral licks going up here in MAINE. Good Hunting!
Thank you very much! And it sure is...I always put mine it in the UP of MI in late April when the snow was almost gone 🙂 and then putting a camera right on them for the Summer...always a great spot!
this is great. the biggest buck i ever shot with the bow i nicknamed the box elder buck. i cut some box elders down to put a small plot in, left a bunch standing, and let the stumps because it grows back almost instant browse. my treestand is in a box elder.😁
Very interesting. We have a chunk that has a really good mix of trees, the main big old ones are Oak, but there are lots of Aspen, Birch, Sugar Maple, Basswood, Boxelder, and some Red Maple mixed in. Tons of Buckthorn of course. The hinge cut thing is interesting and makes a lot of sense, nature tends to do that on it's own every so often, as evidenced by our woods that is full of trees pushed over by the wind at a 45 or less degree angle that have vertical "trunks" sprouting off them the same size as the main trunk. I've been watching a bunch of your videos in the last couple of days and now feel like I know just enough to get started in a direction, I will continue to watch. Thank you.
Thank you for mentioning BOX ELDER TREES .. you are correct... they are a awesome tree and I am using extensively in my reforestation project for wildlife enhancement.
Thank you. Robert MacDonald Wildlife control service Canada 🇨🇦
I love conifers. I need more conifers. Conifers are great for making your woods look more awesome in winter. Norway Spruce in the winter look like works of art.
awesome information! I've got my logger in my property for the same reason you are saying. Can't manage for timber and wildlife well, need to make a choice.
Thanks , that was very eye opening to me.
You are very welcome! One man's junk is another man's treasure 🙂
Morn brother. Yep I’m fixing to get started on my lease to.
Great video brother thank you for sharing GOD BLESS.
You are welcome Randle!
I qppreciate you're advice.
i 100% agree with your statement of , are you managing for trees or wildlife?, ... i have seen way too many people that think perfectly clean tree belts(we live in NE south dakota) is the way to go for wildlife and they think it should be all hard wood trees. My folks have gave me the privilege of designing and managing the cover for wildlife at the farm. I was lucky to have a conservation/wildlife background and so did my dad and grandpa when we farmed/cattle. The past 12 years we have seen a drastic increase in buck size and over all deer heard health by a combination of things applied. I have cut old tree belt trees like Box Elder at the thick branches to have them hang over the outside edge of the tree belt. Plus we stop using RoundUp spray on all the crops and planted good grasses and yellow/white sweetglover(best cover for big bucks i've ever seen). And my grandpa was very smart as a young farmer and he planted plum thickets and apple trees throughout the tree belts and around the farm , they just happen to be in the ideal spots for bow hunting as well(did he have a vision of this for hunting and for picking for food for the family or just by chance?) but fruit trees are good way to bucks in from outside other areas. This year is a whole new animal thought, Preventive Planting acres are all around us(folks have 600 acres) and about 60% is cover crop, but with hardly any corn we have notice a huge drop in does and bucks right by the 2 quarters design for bow hunting only, hope this changes with the first cold snap. Very good work in explaining what you do, like your common person approach to wildlife as a whole.
I’d be curious as to what you’d recommend for ironwood trees. Our property is in SW WI and was logged for oaks 15-20 years ago and there’s a good amount of oaks left, more young maple, and a few cherry trees but in some areas the ironwood trees are thick. You can count hundreds just standing in one spot. Would you recommend just clearing those things out if you have the manpower? I see them as worthless because the buds are all up high, the block light, and hinge cut like junk. But just not sure.
Hi Jeff, if you only have 8 acres purely for hunting and most of it were creek bottom within a saddle, what sorts of ideas would you try to implement? I’m in Georgia, specifically Middle Ga.
Aspen is a big time tree here in the northwoods of Wisconsin, only problem with it is that it grows out of reach of deer so quickly and gets crazy thick!! Like immovable thick, not a good tree to hinge cut but if you can keep it at face level of deer it is incredible!
My favorite is to hit pockets with a forestry mulcher on a bobcat every 3-4 years...think of the areas in 1/4s...and within 15-20 years you are right back where you started, keeping your cuttings in a pattern that relates to your overall parcel design. Continuous renewable high quality resource! I never recommend hinge cutting unless for edge screening on woodlots, access areas...but that's not very often.
My inner waterfowl mode came out at 3:26 hearing them geese 😂
Hey buddy I love the idea of planting trees 1 problem I don’t live on the property I hunt I’m 3hrs away so how can I plant & take care of new plantings when I think trees probably need lots of attention meaning water
Box elders make me go to Church every Sunday hahaha
Soft maple is worth a lot of money now it brought me almost as much as red oak this year ,7 years ago no body wanted it for lumber,when I select cutted
Jeff, what do you think about planting Wild Plum trees for a cover/bedding area?
I have 20 acres in Crawford co. Pa corn and beans all around any advice on keeping deer in daylight seems there here just after and before daylight
I'll add these trees to our list! A few videos ago, you mentioned hinge cutting even lower than the waist height you mentioned in this one. I agree with the former bc the new shoots grow, generally, straight upward and quickly grow out of reach of deer if cut even at waist height. Do you think you could do a how to cut for hardwood regeneration video? You are our go to source for deer wisdom, thanks Jeff!
Hi Nick you are very welcome! I always like cutting at waist to belly high...deer level. That places both browse and cover at deer level. Have you checked out some if these vids? Lots of bedding are cutting vids in this mix 🙂
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Great info, Jeff! Box Elders get under my skin though!
On another note......I introduced my wood lot to Ross, now it's a brush pile 😁
Ha that's awesome Casey...Ross is the man! 😉
Would a tulip poplar be a good tree to hinge cut for deer to browse on?
He is a smiley guy
Jeff do you add any fruit trees as well, or do you stay away from them since they aren't a season long source?
of course, the white oaks (quercus alba, bicolor, macrocarpa,...) produce tasty acorns for deer, squirrels, turkeys and other animals and can produce quality lumber too. other hardwoods can produce nuts and fruit too. even more tasty for deer are chestnuts and persimmon.
A very bad overall wildlife habitat...GREAT for a compliment to quality habitat tho...but can never be the base of quality habitat, unfortunately. A great guide is the more valuable the lumber, the lower the value for wildlife.
THANK YOU, for these video's! I recently found your channel (after becoming more serious about improving our land here in West Central MN) and have been watching as many video's as I can get my hands on. I've been trying to work on travel corridors, before the big spring green up. I've been widening out the existing heavy deer trails in the areas they have traditionally used to navigate around the river and a small woods pothole. Is this the proper approach to travel corridors? I looked for the trail they use that has the most use, sign, scat, rubs, water source and also cover and food(box elders) I live about 40 miles south of where the prairie meets the heavier woods in MN. We get a lot of Box elder trees and some very heavy stands of invasive Buck thorn. What are your thoughts about the Buck thorn? It's disgusting stuff, that the soybean aphids(we are farmers) use to dormant in during the winter, but it seems to grow VERY thick where we live, and provides good depth of cover for deer movement? Also, I cannot find any big vines similar to they ones you use for your mock scrapes. Are there any other good choices of natural material to use instead of a vine? Again, thank you so much for all of the valuable information you share! It's really boosted my ambitions to improve our land and also other animal populations in our area. I've been working to improve our pheasant, turkey and duck populations as well. Best Regards, Jeremy.
How's it going? I'm interested in the Buckthorn issue as well, I imagine the best thing to do would be to eradicate it and replace it with something that won't be so invasive and not dominate an area like it does. Have you had any luck with the Buckthorn?
@@nathaniellarson8 Thats my long term goal. But I don't get any help from family members. I have all I can handle on my own currently. :( Its hard enough planting plots, feeding deer, refreshing mineral sites, keeping trails clear of fallen trees, limbs, and mowed, and retrieving trail camera cards, along with refreshing batteries.
@@jeremyfoss505 I can imagine. I'm just beginning and I have a ton of clean up. Luckily my dad's favorite thing in the world to do besides deer hunting is running his chainsaw. He doesn't have much sawing to do at home, so my place is like a playground for him, lol.
I watch a lot of your videos and enjoy them and the information that you provide but I live in SW Missouri and the only species of tree that I have that you mentioned in this part of the state is boxelder and I don't have any of those on my property or on any other properties I hunt.
The only similar species that we have is silver maple. I'm assuming that cutting it low and letting it sprout back would work similarly? Thanks.
No. Barton County.
Jeff knows the north well.
Any thoughts about introducing blight-resistant American chestnut when it becomes available?
Hi Joe! It would be a browse compliment tree...not overly powerful, but could be part of the overall picture like oak.
Hi Jeff I just purchased 65 acres in central New York State. Chenango county. Is it too late in year to setup for gun season (November 16th 2019) what do you recommend.
Thoughts on Thorn Apple trees?
Good or bad
I can attest to the box elder.. I hinge cut a bunch on my land and found the deer like them, I like them now for cover/browse when I used to try to get rid of them.. I do keep them down around the Apple, maple and cherry that I have tho.. I hinge them to help redirect the deer to my spots..😁
Rick Parshall , do the deer eat the cherries? I'm trying to decide whether to plant some or not.. I've got red oaks, white oaks, chestnuts, apples, pears, and plan on some persimmons and crab apples for pollination
Chris Goodwin I believe they would as most wildlife likes fruit.. the cherries come so early while there is so much green stuff sprouting cherries may not be a priority to them... I know they like the small branches and bark from them and most all fruit trees tho as do rabbits, this past winter the animals stripped the bark off my neighbors mature apples and ate my complete new apple tree.. should have fenced it off as I knew better.. not sure if this helped or not but definitely protect any young tree from deer and rabbits till they mature.
Hey Jeff could you bend young box elders and maples and tie them down to make them grow sideways
You just stated what I realized as a young boy aspen and boxelder along with black willow equal deer. My dads thinking though is that of many that they are garbage and need to be cut down 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
What do you think of honey locust
Jeff, where do you recommend getting seeds for boxelder and red maple? I am planting 6-7 acres of switch this spring and want to start looking for where to put in my switchgrass pockets. Looking at these two as well as possibly trying red osier dogwood.
Hi Ryan...make sure you fence the ROD! I always recommend self harvesting the winged seeds of the box elders and red maples.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Jeff, appreciate the quick reply and all you do for the management community! I did hear you say that in another video. I plan to do so. Do you think the red osier is a good fit for a switch grass field in rolling hills? Some of the highest country around and it drops down into crick bottom on 3 sides within 1/2 mile. I’ve heard that it does better in wet areas.
Just some constructive criticism.
I LOVE your videos, but one suggestion I have, as with this video for an example, when you are TALKING about tree species it would be very BENEFICIAL if you would show that species on your videos.
I know! A person can "Google" these things, but then you are leaving the video to do the search, and then come back to the video.
I just think that seeing these things while you are talking about them would really help.
Just a suggestion.
South Alabama trees?
We have an abundance of sweet gum, & pines. We also have red oak, white oak & cedars. What would you suggest we add or remove?
Thanks for your knowledge.
Jeff specializes in northern species. I think he said he’s only been to Alabama once.
Great video ....God Bless brother
#WWG1WGA
Man, thank you very much...great appreciate that!
If you have a mature aspen or red maple stand don't be afraid to clear cut it. It'll be thicker than hair on a dog's back in a couple years.
I have a 2 acre stand of silver maples....can i hinge cut these? this back area of my 40 is choked by them
Good to hinge in August...if more than 6-8" diameter just cut one down every 30-40 yards to open up canopy, but not so much that you make a tangled mess. Always better if you do not have to hinge. That's detail work that takes time...
What type of conifer is shown at 7:20 of video?
Lots of Norway Spruce...
what about sasafrass or sumac?
Have one for Texas? Or would these work about the same? Planning to buy property in 2-3 years so try amd get some knowledge on things until then.
Specializes in the northern states mostly.
Hi Jeff, Do aspen live for a while if hinge cut?
Sometimes? But definitely better to completely cut to take advantage of optimum lateral root regen
Where can you get Boxelder? Also any thoughts on honey locust?
Deer love the HL pods!
You can get them from seed or cutting pretty easy if around!
I don't believe I've ever heard you comment on black Locust for deer. In fact, I never heard anyone discuss it. Thoughts?
Jeff I’m buying 10 acres southwestern ny it’s a wildlife parcel adjacent to 6,000 acres of timber company property has a swamp just to the north with a creek running through. There is a nice stand of hemlock and mixed hard woods. I found online I can buy these species of tree you recommend by seed for, would you recommend planting the seeds or finding these trees already started in a nursery? My plan is to hinge cut a stand of hardwoods and plant these species.
If the owner of the land you hunt dosen't want foodplots, are apple trees a good substitute to a foodplot?
Unfortunately nothing is a good substitute for a food plot. For example no matter how many apples, oaks, chestnuts or high quality browse trees you have on your land, a neighbor with a good access plan, quality unpressured food plots and only an average level of habitat overall, could easily dictate the entire daylight deer movement...even with 40 acres or less.
Now the exceptions are micro parcels surrounded by ag...creating apple scrape trails, browse plots with a high % red osier dogwoods cuttings, high quality hardwood Regen cuttings, etc. BUT, if you lack that high quality food plot attraction on a land that attracts and holds deer all season long, there is really nothing that competes to any level close.
All that being said if you have no choice, I would go for the largest variety of soft mass collection that you can plant. Crabapples, apples, plums, pears...all a huge variety of early and late maturing trees. I think you are right...that would be the next best thing! Combine that with a large variety of hardwood regen cuttings...timber harvest, hinge cut, canopy cut down...and you would still creat a real nice parcel!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thank you for you input.
@Trent williams Minnesota
I have 20 acres in northern KY that's 80% covered by hickory, oak and a couple others. I would like to contact you some how to possibly set up a time to talk to you about my land
This man needs to hop on the joe Rogan experience with Steve rinella
What about the Japanese maple?
I had to google 'box elder'. We know it as Manitoba maple up here, and we hates it!
I always smirk when people tell me I have a tree problem and I need to burn all the box elders out.
I have no box elders, but have had land where they were prolific. I would say it would be hard to convince me to add them to my new place.
If I hinge cut a red maple on my property, the deer are there eating it before I drive away.
Man I live red maple for whitetails! Outstanding wildlife trees👍
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I thought I had a bunch of sugar maples on my property, I looked closer this year and they are all red maples. Going to hinge a bunch this spring.
Deer will follow out logging equipment through the woods if we're cutting red maple especially in late winter cold snaps.
what about beech
Very poor wildlife tree. Takes up a lot of space, is disease prone and beech brush regen is starvation food for deer. Non browse species. Beech nuts are awesome for a limited time when available, but a non browse/non cover species for nearly 365. LOTS of shade too...
Are sweet gum trees of any value to deer habitat
No. But they are soft,easy to screw in steps.
Jeff, what do you charge for assessing property?
I've been wondering the same thing.
what state are you located
Depends of what day of the week. Has property in Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin. He’s got the north covered well.
Sob!!! Boxelder trees.. I guess that's good news. those f****** will wear out a chainsaw in no time.
How to get a hold of you to come out
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All talks, go to the points and can't understand your 4 trees
Box elder? Ok, That does it. I'm turning this video off. NOT!
If you know deer habitat...it is one of the best for browse and cover. Anyone who says otherwise, doesn't have enough experience to even comment, and is likely confusing TIMBER value with WILDLIFE value...the two are only very rarely the same. A common mistakes among some foresters that care more about timber than wildlife. For example in nearly any deer habitat right now, if you cut box elder in favor of cherry, hard maple or even oak...you actually did more harm to deer and other wildlife, then good. That is a true shame and an example of why folks need to be educated and understand the difference between high value timber and overrated hard mast, vs high browse necessary tree species for wildlife...like box elder, soft maple, aspen/,poplar, etc...
I suggest you spend a few years scouting deer habitat for a living... particularly during the Fall and Winter months in more than a dozen states...and get back to the discussion when you are actually informed and fully educated/experienced on the subject.
Imagine thinking you're doing a good job by planting and allowing box elders to grow 🤡🤡🤡