Here in eastern Iowa I have to cut the ends off my zip ties or the deer will chew on them and pull the tree over without fail. And I highly recommend manually removing the tree tubes; you'll get a lot of algae, ants, or mice between the tree and tube if you don't. This is assuming that the tree tubes actually do split open -- mine do not, and I've been reusing them for 12 years now. For those wondering, bluebirds do get stuck in these tubes. By complete luck, while sitting in my deer blind I heard one making noise in a tube and rescued it.
I have noticed something chewing on the some of the zip ties. I assumed it was raccoons. I have been taking off the good tubes when the tree is around 3-4yrs old and throw a split tube on the tree just to protect it from rubbing.
I always take it 2 gallon bucket with me when planting anything shovel the topsoil into it and then when you're ready just pour it back on top simplifies the process
Holy smokes!! where we’re you 4 years ago? I just figured this out over the winter after a lot of waisted effort building cages and pruning 60 apple trees. They all are now pruned to a minimum of 5’ and protected with a wire cage. Buried the wire cage so the voles don’t eat the bark. The voles ate the bark all the way around 28 of them. That was the first time that has ever happened. Now those will die because they are 100% around the base. Live and learn!!! Great video!!!
Darn mice. I still have issues with them building nests in the winter in the tubes. I just lift the tubes up a little in the fall so they can’t stay warm all winter in the tube, that seems to help. The tubes are amazing, I still have some from 4+ yrs ago that haven’t fallen apart yet.
I will be uploading a video today, the no till videos may be out in a week or 2. A lot of the no till plantings have really had a slow start this year because it’s been so dry.
I’ll probably just leave the buckthorn standing there. They will slowly break down and fall apart over the years and end up tipping over probably. Won’t hurt the trees close by because they will be 20+ ft tall by then. Some of the big ones started to bust through the tubes by the end of the summer. It’s amazing how fast these hybrid trees grow!
Great video! Are you taking your own cuttings off of those Hybrids? If so, Love to hear how. I have a few and the deer set them back every year. I think I'm going to tube them next week.
One tip to help with the mice/voles eating your trees is peel the mulch or thatch layer out a few inches around your trees. I haven't used tubes yet but I'd peel it out beyond the tubes.
That would probably work too. What I have been doing is just lifting the tubes up 6in to a foot and retightening the zip ties. Alot of the time they slide back down though.
They have to be one of the best places to buy trees from they are so affordable. Me and my dad bumped into Mike the owner at the Flee-Market at the Jefferson Speeday and bought our first trees from him probably over 5 years ago.
Looks awesome! I planted two hundred hybrid poplar this Spring from bare roots and several are growing out the top of the tubes already. What time of year do you do the pruning? Did you have any problems with hornets trying to start making combs inside the tubes? I found those orange 4ft fiberglass driveway markers on sale at Menards last Spring for around a quarter a piece, stuck the reflective end in the soil to secure the tube. I’m assuming less expensive than conduit. Planted a bunch of Apple trees to that are growing out of the tubes…. When is a good time to prune those? I’m thinking after the hunting season around Spring Turkey?
I do the pruning in the spring. With the hybrid Poplars you’ll probably only have to prune them the first year because like you said a lot of them are already getting out of the tubes after one year. Yeah I have had issues with hornets making nests once in a while too. I have have had some issues with the trees bending the tube and tipping over when they get 15 feet tall or so. Not sure if those fiberglass stakes will be strong enough. A lot of my trees are already big enough where I can reuse the conduit stakes. I have heard that hybrid poplars are notorious root sprouters when they are cut down. A big hybrid Poplar tree doesn’t really offer much for wildlife habitat so in 5 to 10 years when they get the size of a basketball or so I am going to start cutting down a few and seeing if they send up any roots suckers. I’m hoping to get a ton of Sprouts that come out of the ground to add more food and more cover and more trees.
In which month of the year we should prune the poplar plants? I have a farm of poplar plants where I have planted more than 8000 plants. Kindly let me know the correct timing for the prunning. Thanks
Yes. In 5-10 yrs I plan to cut some of them down and let them regenerate. Hybrid poplars are prolific stump sprouters. They will send up 3-5 shots from the stump and send up some root sprouts like Aspen. When I cut down 1 5-8yrs old 20-30ft tall hybrid poplar I’m hoping to get a mini thicket of poplar. Hopefully at lest 10-15 root sprout trees.
I have considered tameracks, but there is no black spruce around here in southern wi so I doubt they would do as good as the tameracks. The area I am planting supposedly had tameracks 50-75 yrs ago but they were all cut down to expand the cow pasture.
I placed black corrugated pipe around quite a few of my trees years ago when planting instead of tree tubes. This was a recommendation from a friend and I’ve also seen videos advising to do the same. Several of my trees died when the trunks got close to the size of the tubes. Got close to the diameter of the pipe. Some rotted and some got infested with ants. It made me think of it when you showed that your tree was about the diameter of you tube at the base. Might be time to get that tube off.
The tubes have a cerated line the whole length of the tube where it’s meant to break off when the tree gets big enough. I’ve had more mice than anything else kill my trees when they are the size of a quarter or less. They build nests in the tubes and eat the bark of the tree.
Sustanible Wildlife Habitats in Rockdale Wi. If your not in the area they sell them online. Around $3 per tube. They are definitely worth it if your going to plant 25-100 trees. Get the 5ft ones. Deer can still reach the top of a 4ft tube.
Next year or so should do an update video. I just planted 120 saplings to extend my woods. Think it was about 80 hybrid populars. Thought about making a video like this and doing updates every couple years
I hate it too, In areas that it’s a monoculture of buckthorn it just destroys the diversity of the habitat and once it canopies over there’s no browse.
That’s why the trees are planted in tubes. They are 5 foot tubes and the deer can’t reach the top to nip them off. And in the future you can cut down Hybrid Poplars and they shoot up sprout shoots and the deer will love eating on them and it will create insane cover very quickly.
Always enjoy watching people give back to the wildlife instead of just taking. Raise more than you take and we will all be better off.
Here in eastern Iowa I have to cut the ends off my zip ties or the deer will chew on them and pull the tree over without fail. And I highly recommend manually removing the tree tubes; you'll get a lot of algae, ants, or mice between the tree and tube if you don't. This is assuming that the tree tubes actually do split open -- mine do not, and I've been reusing them for 12 years now.
For those wondering, bluebirds do get stuck in these tubes. By complete luck, while sitting in my deer blind I heard one making noise in a tube and rescued it.
I have noticed something chewing on the some of the zip ties. I assumed it was raccoons. I have been taking off the good tubes when the tree is around 3-4yrs old and throw a split tube on the tree just to protect it from rubbing.
Try to get oak trees in there for Simmons. Anything to add food for those deer.
Fascinating. Keep going 👍
I always take it 2 gallon bucket with me when planting anything shovel the topsoil into it and then when you're ready just pour it back on top simplifies the process
Holy smokes!!
where we’re you 4 years ago?
I just figured this out over the winter after a lot of waisted effort building cages and pruning 60 apple trees.
They all are now pruned to a minimum of 5’ and protected with a wire cage. Buried the wire cage so the voles don’t eat the bark. The voles ate the bark all the way around 28 of them. That was the first time that has ever happened. Now those will die because they are 100% around the base.
Live and learn!!!
Great video!!!
Darn mice. I still have issues with them building nests in the winter in the tubes. I just lift the tubes up a little in the fall so they can’t stay warm all winter in the tube, that seems to help. The tubes are amazing, I still have some from 4+ yrs ago that haven’t fallen apart yet.
Love the videos keep doing videos like this
Thanks
I need these food plot videos man! Lol let's see those no till plots
I will be uploading a video today, the no till videos may be out in a week or 2. A lot of the no till plantings have really had a slow start this year because it’s been so dry.
Awesome video, I have been searching for tree planting tips for this type of marsh habitat. Do you plan on taking out the dead buckthorn?
I’ll probably just leave the buckthorn standing there. They will slowly break down and fall apart over the years and end up tipping over probably. Won’t hurt the trees close by because they will be 20+ ft tall by then. Some of the big ones started to bust through the tubes by the end of the summer. It’s amazing how fast these hybrid trees grow!
Great video! Are you taking your own cuttings off of those Hybrids? If so, Love to hear how. I have a few and the deer set them back every year. I think I'm going to tube them next week.
I plan of taking cuttings off them when they get big enough. So probably 2-3 yrs from now.
One tip to help with the mice/voles eating your trees is peel the mulch or thatch layer out a few inches around your trees. I haven't used tubes yet but I'd peel it out beyond the tubes.
That would probably work too. What I have been doing is just lifting the tubes up 6in to a foot and retightening the zip ties. Alot of the time they slide back down though.
Do you buy from Sustainable Wildlife Habitats? I'm so happy with them.
Yes I do. Where are you located, you must be in southern Wi too. I am very happy with them too.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I'm near Fond du Lac so it's a bit of a ride but well worth it.
They have to be one of the best places to buy trees from they are so affordable. Me and my dad bumped into Mike the owner at the Flee-Market at the Jefferson Speeday and bought our first trees from him probably over 5 years ago.
I live on Minnesota and I drive couple hours to get trees from there to. Quality and good pricing
Can the hybrid poplar be coppiced? Thanks
Yes, they should be able to grow from cuttings. Although I’ve never tried.
Looks awesome! I planted two hundred hybrid poplar this Spring from bare roots and several are growing out the top of the tubes already. What time of year do you do the pruning? Did you have any problems with hornets trying to start making combs inside the tubes? I found those orange 4ft fiberglass driveway markers on sale at Menards last Spring for around a quarter a piece, stuck the reflective end in the soil to secure the tube. I’m assuming less expensive than conduit. Planted a bunch of Apple trees to that are growing out of the tubes…. When is a good time to prune those? I’m thinking after the hunting season around Spring Turkey?
I do the pruning in the spring. With the hybrid Poplars you’ll probably only have to prune them the first year because like you said a lot of them are already getting out of the tubes after one year. Yeah I have had issues with hornets making nests once in a while too. I have have had some issues with the trees bending the tube and tipping over when they get 15 feet tall or so. Not sure if those fiberglass stakes will be strong enough. A lot of my trees are already big enough where I can reuse the conduit stakes.
I have heard that hybrid poplars are notorious root sprouters when they are cut down. A big hybrid Poplar tree doesn’t really offer much for wildlife habitat so in 5 to 10 years when they get the size of a basketball or so I am going to start cutting down a few and seeing if they send up any roots suckers. I’m hoping to get a ton of Sprouts that come out of the ground to add more food and more cover and more trees.
In which month of the year we should prune the poplar plants? I have a farm of poplar plants where I have planted more than 8000 plants. Kindly let me know the correct timing for the prunning. Thanks
Hi.
I'm confused. Why do you want tall skinny trees with no lateral cover? Deer like to bed with some lateral cover, right?
Yes. In 5-10 yrs I plan to cut some of them down and let them regenerate. Hybrid poplars are prolific stump sprouters. They will send up 3-5 shots from the stump and send up some root sprouts like Aspen. When I cut down 1 5-8yrs old 20-30ft tall hybrid poplar I’m hoping to get a mini thicket of poplar. Hopefully at lest 10-15 root sprout trees.
Have you ever considered planting tamarack, tag alder or black spruce. They all grow at my place in Michigan in the swamp
I have considered tameracks, but there is no black spruce around here in southern wi so I doubt they would do as good as the tameracks. The area I am planting supposedly had tameracks 50-75 yrs ago but they were all cut down to expand the cow pasture.
Where do you get your tree tubes?
Same place I get the trees. If your in southern Wi I definitely would check out Sustanible Wildlife Habitats
I placed black corrugated pipe around quite a few of my trees years ago when planting instead of tree tubes. This was a recommendation from a friend and I’ve also seen videos advising to do the same. Several of my trees died when the trunks got close to the size of the tubes. Got close to the diameter of the pipe. Some rotted and some got infested with ants.
It made me think of it when you showed that your tree was about the diameter of you tube at the base. Might be time to get that tube off.
The tubes have a cerated line the whole length of the tube where it’s meant to break off when the tree gets big enough. I’ve had more mice than anything else kill my trees when they are the size of a quarter or less. They build nests in the tubes and eat the bark of the tree.
So where do you get the white tubes that bust open
Sustanible Wildlife Habitats in Rockdale Wi. If your not in the area they sell them online. Around $3 per tube. They are definitely worth it if your going to plant 25-100 trees. Get the 5ft ones. Deer can still reach the top of a 4ft tube.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 thank you
Where do you get those tubes from ? Thanks 🎃
If your in southren Wi you can get them from Sustanible wildlife habitats is Rockdale.
Cool good vids
Thanks
were you able to find the 5 foot tubes at a good price anywhere?
The tubes are pretty pricy no matter where you look
Where do u buy ur tubes?
How are the trees doing this year
Really good, some of the bigger ones that I planted 3-4 yrs ago have busted through the tubes by the end of the growing season last year!
Next year or so should do an update video. I just planted 120 saplings to extend my woods. Think it was about 80 hybrid populars. Thought about making a video like this and doing updates every couple years
Always cool to keep updates oh how everyone’s trees are doing and tips or tricks for a better planting season
What do you use for stakes, is that conduit?
Yeah 1/2 in conduit
You fertilize them in year 2.?
No I have never fertilized my trees
I HATE Buckthorn! lol. We are over run here in West Central MN with it!
I hate it too, In areas that it’s a monoculture of buckthorn it just destroys the diversity of the habitat and once it canopies over there’s no browse.
How much do your white cedars grow per year?
Only 1-3 ft a year. They will definitely need to be caged otherwise there not worth planting
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 Yes, I am caging mine in as well.
Wish my apple trees did that
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Deers would eat Hybrid Willows? really? Hybrid Willows is not the deer resistent?
That’s why the trees are planted in tubes. They are 5 foot tubes and the deer can’t reach the top to nip them off. And in the future you can cut down Hybrid Poplars and they shoot up sprout shoots and the deer will love eating on them and it will create insane cover very quickly.