Elephant fact 1: Elephants can run at speeds upto 40 km/h. Elephant fact 2: Finding out stakes are useless against elephants is one of the scariest moments in total war history.
@@constantinople777christens5 When in the deployment stage a few archer units can plant stakes. It's not many, though. Several of England's can, I think one in the Turks can, one in the Polish tree can...not sure who else. It shows up as a green icon where you'd normally turn on flaming arrows once combat starts. There are limits on where you can place them, but they devastate normal cavalry that run into them. It makes an utter joke of city assaults if you place them inside town right in front of the gate and let them ram it open. The cavalry rushes in and just melts, often the general as well.
normal elephants, not with this 300 kg(even more?) armor, and the additional 500-1tonne atleast from the wood saddle, the canon itself who would be so heavy and the 3 armored men. Asian elephants run up to 25km/h, and african one, no studies as been concluded on their speed, its LIKELIKY some of them goes to 40 kph lol
@@nvmtt no my dude ! 13km/h is average or long run for fit person, my friends use to do 18km/h for one or two hours, the record is 44 km(i think or 43) by usain bolt! Even if its ridiculous because on 100 meters only and peak physical condition, on full speed an average male human and adrenaline could easely go over 20 or 25. As you said, 25 is still a lot for such a creature, especially for that wait looool, its litteraly a truck launched ! But i even wonder with that ton of gear if they can even run that fast for those with cannons. Peak horse is 40km/h same peak, with 50kg of plate from himself and the rider, and 80kg of the rider, those horses must remains pretty fast compared to a artillery elephant.(i did some research on canon its even more surprising, such a canon would easely wait 700 kg to a ton)
Its kind of hilarious that Timur has the Nickname "the Pious" here even though its what he would like to call himself "The Sword of Islam", people liked to call him instead as "The Prince of Destruction" as most of his Enemies were actually Muslims.
Yeah he was a devout Muslim, and coincidentally all his major enemies were also Muslims. He did fight the occasional expeditionary crusader force but that's it.
To he honest, Timur declared war on other Muslim kingdoms by claiming other Muslims were not pious enough and his job was to teach them a lesson for heresy. Both Bayezid and Lodhi were called infidels by Timur.
The one thing I really think is missing from Medieval 2 is the ability to select different start dates. Being able to start in a later era so that you get more campaign with late-game tech and factions would really explode the games replayability
That's something I had never thought about you're right. I do most of my serious fighting in the Early period so by the time I get to those Late stage units I am just messing around and only really have a threat to fight if I've been specifically tying to keep an enemy strong. Would be cool to start with a pretty even map at the late stage.
@@winndypops Thing is, my experience is that if the AI captures a lot of settlements, lets say 20-25, they don't fight well. You can go in there and take 5 settlements quickly and they don't really respond. The AI is tougher when it holds like 5 or 6 territories.
if I remember well, in Medieval 1 this was actually an option to choose at the beginning of the campaign. they could have kept in, at least as a freaking DLC.
I know of Timur the Lame, the conqueror with a lame foot, but I've never heard of Timur the pious. Made even funnier by the fact that the English faction heir is Phillip the Profane.
about 6-7 years ago i found your channel and started watching. my pc was a complete potato back then and i could only play rome 1 and medieval 2. dreaming that i will have a good pc one day and play all the newer total war games you made videos about. today i have a great pc which can run any total war game but only tw i have installed is still medieval 2. it says a lot about what happened to this franchise.
I agree with the statement the franchise has gone down, but I would still say Warhammer 2 is a great game for anyone that likes total war, yes it is a fantasy game but still great
The thing is, is that it seems like almost everything being produced nowadays is of lower or poorer quality than I would have expected based on the idea that when a formulaic paradigm has been achieved, future iterations would have meaningful and better changes (funner even). Instead it is like they have decided that marketing improved designs are more profitable than the actual implementations of positive changes. Not only does it seem like everyone has gotten greedier, but now people don't want to work hard too (perhaps rightfully so). The internet has rapidly changed the cultures which had slowly evolved over many many generations for societies and hierarchies to perform at peak efficiencies, but that has changed and now things are obviously struggling in so many areas, regressing even. Perhaps in the long term our adaptive nature will allow the future generations to thrive, but in the meantime in the context of entertainment gaming I have decided to play games that are fun to me (and those 2 games you mentioned are fun, even with the poor pathfinding in Rome1), regardless of when they were made. I have found that I usually enjoy modern games much better if I wait 2-3 years after release to play them, buying on sale and only buying ones that other players like. Cheers.
One of my earliest Total War memories was having 4 Timurid armies attack my fully upgraded Citadel with cannon towers. Cannons took out the generals and rampaging elephants killed half of their own troops. It's that and facing 4 Mongol armies full of cav on a bridge battle with one side blocked by rows of Lithuanian Archer spikes. Pure carnage.
13:08 "Not the elephants!" (Tbilisi salutes Timur crossing the Caucasus) I love bridge/ford battles against horse archer hordes! When placing stakes, I usually spread out my archer units individually. That way I can move them closer towards the water so the enemy can't get around them, close any gaps and even have multiple rows of stakes.
LMAO i love how Legend just writes random things for his video title. like how you write the names of a "saved replay". where every other youtuber writes long details for their videos trying to catch attention and please the search/algorithm- legend is just being a legend. the last of the youtubers from the era when youtube had a soul.
I started watching because of his titles. Saw the thumbnail for "A Few Greenskins" a while back with no knowledge of Warhammer and my only experience with total war a few hours of shogun 2 on release. But it was a video with a lot of views and a minimalist title, so it must be interesting, right? Now I'm here.
If I were in the business of making hundreds of videos about reasonably similar things the most annoying part would probably be coming up with long, detailed titles and descriptions that weren't just copy-paste. I'd want to keep it simple, too. "The Oda." "Suck it, Milan." "CANNONS." etc.
@@PeatingtuneThats just it though. Legend doesn't make videos for a full-time job anymore so the importance of maximizing the algorithm means very little to him now. He makes videos just for fun and his fans.
Holy shit this was one of the best disasters, you really had everything going up against you and shit was hanging by a thread, the scene of the timurids crossing over the river while your line held desperately and the archers shot flaming arrows was epic as fuck.
It has always baffled me that Creative Assembly never remastered or made a Medieval 3 with only slight improvements. Had CA focused on DLCs for Medieval 2 instead of allowing modders to basically make DLCs they could have made a tidy profit.
@@TacoTomtheBomb They seem almost resentful of the game's existence. Perhaps now because every time a new game comes out our neckbeard rashes flair up and we take to the Internet to proclaim it inferior to Medieval II, and perhaps back then because modders were releasing better versions and better campaigns than CA did (Stainless Steel, Broken Crescent, Third Age etc.).
It’s one of those games people are gonna play for decades after its release. It’s so fun and well-made, and it can be modded. One of the most impressive games ever made. I wish CA would have built upon its success better.
You know I never heard it put that way, but yeah that makes sense. I guess it makes sense to with Age of Wonders 4 I am playing because they have already committed to releasing 2 big and 2 small new release updates. Probably 2 are expansions and 2 are DLCs. And by the 3 expansions do you mean the 4 scenarios in Kingdoms or are you referring to Kingdoms, Viking Invasion and Barbarion Invasion? Wasn't there another one with like a campaign? I never played it but I just got the remastered original Rome Total War and was going to check out if Alexander is available for it. Happy Holidays buddy.@@InfiniteDesign91
Those type of fights where they are either really hard to get a clean victory or impossible to do so, are some of the best fights to watch, they remind me of fights I do in this game haha.
I had an absolute disaster of a HRE campaign, excommunicated with wars on all sides backed into a corner with only three settlements but by using tricks and cheese I learned from you now only the Iberian peninsula and Egypt are not under my control
Thing is though, the elephants that were integrated into his army played a very minimal or no part in much of the battles that he had. They were more a living rampart to terrify his enemies. Plus they came about very late on in Timurs life. The most ultimate and successful part of his army were those of the Chagatai Ulus.
Lol at the Princess being named Maggote Dangerfield. "I tell ya, I get no respect! When I was born my papa named me "Maggotte!" The Doctor asked "You wrote Maggotte on your son's birth certificate." My papa says "Maggotte? I meant to write an F!" No respect I tell ya."
Sabadar Militia actually have armor piercing maces when they're in melee. They can hold their own decently well in close quarters. I don't think they'd beat Dismounted Feudals in a melee fight, but considering Sabadars are a missile unit, they're pretty good in a melee.
Man, after playing mainly TW Warhammer 2 and a bit of Atilla and Troy playing Medieval 2 for the first time in 2023 thanks to your videos feels really good! Cheers!
I indeed wonder the same.. maybe it's just whatever he could have scrounged up last minute as a response force from the back lines. But idk what the map situation is. Edit:NM, I see the map now. But I can see how that army would just be a cheap rebel clapping force.
Hi LoTW. Thanks for all the great battles and campaings! I do enjoy watching them. Just a note, you can have the sharpened stakes wider and completely up against one another. Simply take a single archer group and strech it as much as possible, do the same with the next and relocate it untill the stakes are nearly on top of one another. I hope you'll see this, as I am happy to finally being able to return some new knowledge to you, whom has given me so much. Take care!
Timurids funneled down a narrow choke and running into spiked really reduced the effectiveness of the larger Timurid army. Reduced forces and fighting uphill against a prepared force is usually not a good idea. Timur "the pious"(lol oxymoron) really should have chosen a better battlefield to fight on.
My last campaign I did last week I went into Egypt and took over most the settlements then just gifted them all to the Papal States so that they could deal with the Mongols and Timurids for a laugh lol
Pretty interesting challenge. Perhaps a wise move could be retreating and face the Timurids later with an army raised with, you know, the resources of the whole known world.
If the AI was smart enough, with sending the Elephants first with horse archers support for behind through the river, without a doubt Legend loses the battle. Seriously, that english army was crap and their general was not-so-good when compared with the timurid one.
I remember the first time the timurids turned up when i was playing, had only cleared the mongols a few turns before, and BAM, pushed back to antioch where i fortunately had cannon towers, sally battles can be hilarious with cannon towers.
At 10:30😂. Almost called him Timberlake. History facts: in Iran they call him Timur-e Lang, which translates to 'Timur the Lame'. Btw thanks for the video. This brought back memories. Most played total war for me.❤
Oh man, all the nostalgia buttons arw getting hit with these videos. That moment when youre just chilling at the end of your campaign and suddenly you see several doomstacks show up back when it wasnt common yet (like the Mongols before them, unlike how i already expected it when WH total war came around, or particularly the end game options you have now), so wild and suddenly a big unexpected challenge at a point where you expect none anymore... Though now im also reminded of a stone-faced general (+200% bribe cost) with a full stack that i somehow bribed for like 800 gold lmao (not sure if that was medieval 2 or rome 1 though)
I'm a bit curious, is there a reason to leave your culverins not on explosive shot? (Phrasing ik) Explosive shot on those absolutely slaps on the americas campaign, but does it work differently against armored units?
It explodes on the first unit hit, and against elephants that means you will only kill one elephant per hit. But if you get a good hit from solid shot, you can kill a few elephants with one cannonball as it goes hurtling through them. Using serpentines vs elephants will show just how devastating solid shot can be due to this factor.
It's hard to win clean victories against the Mongols and Timurids in the field in a straight-up battle. They always damage your army badly, that's why I don't fight them in the field, I fight them in a city, by that time in the game you should have cannon towers in most of your settlements, and you can beat them pretty badly with minimal losses. You did a good job. Later.
Do canon towers not fire properly in foggy conditions? I beat three timurid stacks in clear weather with canon towers but lost against one stack in foggy weather.
@@tamberlame27Yeah, I’m pretty sure wet and foggy weather negatively affects towers, as well, just like all middle units. Definitely enough to turn the tide of a close battle, like in your case. They need clear weather to be most effective.
@@tamberlame27 That would make sense. If the soldiers on the ground have poor visibility, then it makes sense that the archers/cannoneers in the towers would only have marginally better visibility, as well. I’m pretty sure the engine in M2TW is actually that sophisticated, which is impressive for a game released in 2006. And it makes it all the more baffling and frustrating that the Warscape engine made combat and artillery so buggy in Empire Total War.
One thing that is unrealistic about the spike trap is that they would have set it like that but placed caltrops in the middle to try to bait them into charging through the gaps. Feel sorry for the horses though, nothing deserves to step on a caltrop. They're meant to be like antipersonelle mines- area of denial weapons that the enemy stays away from. Not like Tank Mines or IEDs that you want the enemy to roll right over.
Love your videos, but I have a question about medieval two total war. How the hell do you do with squalor because everything just gets ruined in my game because of squalor I have my taxes set to the max I try to do everything build everything that reduces squalor, but yet it just gets too high to the point where my public order can’t keep up with amount of squalor I produce even let it be and execute the population yet is still not enoughlet me know. I appreciate it. Keep up the good work love your videos.
probably had them either for clearing rebel settlements/have a garrison, or it was all he could muster on that side of the map, presumably recently conquered those territories which don't have the best barracks built yet.
I hate how the archers in mtw2 shoot with such horrible angles sometimes. When they are shooting upwards like idiots it disperses all the arrows and basically does nothing but waste ammo.
I think If CA would update the Rome Total War 1 and Medieval Total War 2 graphics to the level of the modern games and fixed their minor issues I think everyone would be playing them even today instead of newer titles like Rome II or Attila or even Warhammer
No, they are extremely outdated right now, face it. AI is braindead (yes, worse than in the new games, even if sometimes it seems impossible 😂), diplomacy is broken and mostly useless in both games, pathfinding in sieges is terrible, some types of unit do not work like intended at all. Don't get me wrong, I love Rome and Med II, they are one of the best Total War games, but they have their share of issues that aren't just cosmetic. Also Warhammer doesn't deserve shitting on it constantly imo, despite all the things that plagued it, especially recently, it is a great game overall.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 I do agree with everything you have said, but I still go for Med2 modded over Attila/Rome 2, when it comes to Warhammer, Empire gameplay in Beginning of end Times mod is waay better than in Warhammer 1-3, due to how gunpowder, crossbows and formations work there. When it comes to other factions it seems SFO2 or 3 might be better, but not sure yet. Definitely not vanilla though. That being said I will 100% take good old population and trade system anda broken diplomacy, over a medium diplomacy and boring 3-slot province system.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 Oh dear maybe I didn't explain myself well enough Yeah I know all of those things you said are absolutely true In fact, Diplomacy was none existent in those two titles When I was saying getting updated and also getting some bugs fixed I meant for those that you mentioned perfectly I meant a complete remake of those games but with the same population and building system recruitment system trait system family member system and so on I completely agree with your statement about the weaknesses of those games
@@bandaro1234 maybe formations and shooting is better in the mod for medieval, but single-entities/flying units behaviour, morale system and anything related to magic has to be better in Warhammer. Which isn't surprising, since Medieval engine simply wasn't created with such things in mind. Still, your perspective is perfectly understandable for me, and I would like to see the population system to return in in some way in the next TW game.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 I disagree on morale though, due to the amount of various buffs throughout the game the morale becomes irrelevant later once you get a hand on better units, also difficulty blunts the shock caused by things like charges. The chain routing also seems less common, you gotta deal damage to rout units. I also just reminded myself that units are less valuable in Warhammers due to the replenishment system, there is no such thing as manpower in Warhammer, which is a shame. Even rome 2 mods managed to introduce manpower.
Honestly this is the legend I subsribbled to back in the day. The come back from downunder legend, the horse archer spam legend, the legend of total war, not the legend of Warhammer total war. This content is so much nicer and honestly it feels like you love it a lot more than Warhammer or more modern CA games, which is great since it shows in your gameplay how much fun you're having.
Have you yet played the mod Empire 11 Total War yet Legend, before I download it I can't think of anyone I would rather get a slant on this mod than you?.
I heard a story about Timur( I don't know if it's true), a soviet excavation team opened the tomb of tymor link "Timur" they found a message that said " to whoever dare to open this tomb, you will face the wrath of he king, destruction and fire" 24 hours after that Nazi Germany launched the opperation Barbarosa on USSR.
Yeah the well know "Curse of Timur". The first inscription said: "When I rise from the dead, the world shall tremble" and inside other inscription said: "Whosoever disturbs my tomb unleash an invader more terrible than I." When the soviet archaeologist Mikhail Mikhaylovich Gerasimov opened the Tomb on 20 June of 1941, two days later the Germans invaded the URSS. Also there is other legend that said Timur's remains were taken to Stalingrad to inspire the Muslim troops of the Red Army. Timur was reburied with full islamic burial rites on 20 December 1942 a month before the German 6th Army and 4th Panzer Army was encircled by the soviets.
I think the guy who sent in that disaster save intentionally gave you a mediocre army to fight the Timurids. Because I've never seen anyone have an army that ill-equipped to take on the Mongols, let alone the Timurids.
The AI of Medieval 2 Total War is very incompetent. When I play this game, I will give territories and funds to Timur, Mongolia, Moore and other forces. When the AI is powerful, the game becomes more interesting.
"the Pious" has only 4 Piety but enough Dread to make you call him that.
Timurids go BRRR
Ck3 reference?
Which is pretty accruate considering the historical figure.
Hahaha word
He's pious in the way of Legend - He's dread general that Legend would be proud about.
Elephant fact 1: Elephants can run at speeds upto 40 km/h.
Elephant fact 2: Finding out stakes are useless against elephants is one of the scariest moments in total war history.
When and how can you use a stake feature?
@@constantinople777christens5 When in the deployment stage a few archer units can plant stakes. It's not many, though. Several of England's can, I think one in the Turks can, one in the Polish tree can...not sure who else. It shows up as a green icon where you'd normally turn on flaming arrows once combat starts. There are limits on where you can place them, but they devastate normal cavalry that run into them. It makes an utter joke of city assaults if you place them inside town right in front of the gate and let them ram it open. The cavalry rushes in and just melts, often the general as well.
normal elephants, not with this 300 kg(even more?) armor, and the additional 500-1tonne atleast from the wood saddle, the canon itself who would be so heavy and the 3 armored men. Asian elephants run up to 25km/h, and african one, no studies as been concluded on their speed, its LIKELIKY some of them goes to 40 kph lol
@@marc7817 A human can go upto 13km/h and thats the record. 25 is still no joke.
@@nvmtt no my dude ! 13km/h is average or long run for fit person, my friends use to do 18km/h for one or two hours, the record is 44 km(i think or 43) by usain bolt! Even if its ridiculous because on 100 meters only and peak physical condition, on full speed an average male human and adrenaline could easely go over 20 or 25. As you said, 25 is still a lot for such a creature, especially for that wait looool, its litteraly a truck launched ! But i even wonder with that ton of gear if they can even run that fast for those with cannons. Peak horse is 40km/h same peak, with 50kg of plate from himself and the rider, and 80kg of the rider, those horses must remains pretty fast compared to a artillery elephant.(i did some research on canon its even more surprising, such a canon would easely wait 700 kg to a ton)
*Has conquered the known world*
*Timurids arrive* :
"This campaign is a disaster!"
Its kind of hilarious that Timur has the Nickname "the Pious" here even though its what he would like to call himself "The Sword of Islam", people liked to call him instead as "The Prince of Destruction" as most of his Enemies were actually Muslims.
Yeah he was a devout Muslim, and coincidentally all his major enemies were also Muslims. He did fight the occasional expeditionary crusader force but that's it.
To he honest, Timur declared war on other Muslim kingdoms by claiming other Muslims were not pious enough and his job was to teach them a lesson for heresy. Both Bayezid and Lodhi were called infidels by Timur.
@@satyakisil9711 lol
Timur was the OG "I find your lack of faith disturbing"
Timur “The pious”: then proceeded to build towers out of the skulls of the slain innocents of his enemies.
Oh I love Medieval 2 with all my heart 😆
Imagine being a peasant longbowman and being told you might have to fight a friggin elephant in melee. 😅
Rejoice ! The Knights of Breto... Enland provide your shields
The one thing I really think is missing from Medieval 2 is the ability to select different start dates. Being able to start in a later era so that you get more campaign with late-game tech and factions would really explode the games replayability
You should try Stainless Steel. There are Late Campaign and Early Campaign options in setup.
That's something I had never thought about you're right. I do most of my serious fighting in the Early period so by the time I get to those Late stage units I am just messing around and only really have a threat to fight if I've been specifically tying to keep an enemy strong. Would be cool to start with a pretty even map at the late stage.
That s what mods are for.
Otherwise in vanilla, you should have won before late game units become available.
@@winndypops Thing is, my experience is that if the AI captures a lot of settlements, lets say 20-25, they don't fight well. You can go in there and take 5 settlements quickly and they don't really respond. The AI is tougher when it holds like 5 or 6 territories.
if I remember well, in Medieval 1 this was actually an option to choose at the beginning of the campaign. they could have kept in, at least as a freaking DLC.
I know of Timur the Lame, the conqueror with a lame foot, but I've never heard of Timur the pious. Made even funnier by the fact that the English faction heir is Phillip the Profane.
about 6-7 years ago i found your channel and started watching. my pc was a complete potato back then and i could only play rome 1 and medieval 2. dreaming that i will have a good pc one day and play all the newer total war games you made videos about. today i have a great pc which can run any total war game but only tw i have installed is still medieval 2. it says a lot about what happened to this franchise.
I am still in stage 1 of your situation. I hope someday I will be able to play at least Shogun and Attilla
I agree with the statement the franchise has gone down, but I would still say Warhammer 2 is a great game for anyone that likes total war, yes it is a fantasy game but still great
@@Nxst-i5li wish for a ultra-end pc for you from that fat bearded bastard called santa
The thing is, is that it seems like almost everything being produced nowadays is of lower or poorer quality than I would have expected based on the idea that when a formulaic paradigm has been achieved, future iterations would have meaningful and better changes (funner even). Instead it is like they have decided that marketing improved designs are more profitable than the actual implementations of positive changes. Not only does it seem like everyone has gotten greedier, but now people don't want to work hard too (perhaps rightfully so). The internet has rapidly changed the cultures which had slowly evolved over many many generations for societies and hierarchies to perform at peak efficiencies, but that has changed and now things are obviously struggling in so many areas, regressing even. Perhaps in the long term our adaptive nature will allow the future generations to thrive, but in the meantime in the context of entertainment gaming I have decided to play games that are fun to me (and those 2 games you mentioned are fun, even with the poor pathfinding in Rome1), regardless of when they were made. I have found that I usually enjoy modern games much better if I wait 2-3 years after release to play them, buying on sale and only buying ones that other players like. Cheers.
Hey my story is exactly the same! I finally bought my first own PC three days ago, I've been on a Medieval 2 binge since 😆
One of my earliest Total War memories was having 4 Timurid armies attack my fully upgraded Citadel with cannon towers. Cannons took out the generals and rampaging elephants killed half of their own troops.
It's that and facing 4 Mongol armies full of cav on a bridge battle with one side blocked by rows of Lithuanian Archer spikes. Pure carnage.
Even though this army is 100% dead regardless now, killing an entire Timurid army 1:1 including Tamerlane himself is a huge W for the player.
13:08 "Not the elephants!" (Tbilisi salutes Timur crossing the Caucasus)
I love bridge/ford battles against horse archer hordes! When placing stakes, I usually spread out my archer units individually. That way I can move them closer towards the water so the enemy can't get around them, close any gaps and even have multiple rows of stakes.
A disaster battle for Christmas? It's what I always wanted!
"National Lampoon's Timurid Vacation"
That one Mongol Lancer: I'm about to ruin this dude's whole artillery
LMAO i love how Legend just writes random things for his video title. like how you write the names of a "saved replay". where every other youtuber writes long details for their videos trying to catch attention and please the search/algorithm- legend is just being a legend.
the last of the youtubers from the era when youtube had a soul.
You're absolutely right lol 😂😂😂
imagine not naming your save files "wasadasd"
I started watching because of his titles. Saw the thumbnail for "A Few Greenskins" a while back with no knowledge of Warhammer and my only experience with total war a few hours of shogun 2 on release. But it was a video with a lot of views and a minimalist title, so it must be interesting, right?
Now I'm here.
If I were in the business of making hundreds of videos about reasonably similar things the most annoying part would probably be coming up with long, detailed titles and descriptions that weren't just copy-paste. I'd want to keep it simple, too. "The Oda." "Suck it, Milan." "CANNONS." etc.
@@PeatingtuneThats just it though. Legend doesn't make videos for a full-time job anymore so the importance of maximizing the algorithm means very little to him now. He makes videos just for fun and his fans.
Fun fact; Elephants can reach a land speed up to 40mph. So them out running a fully kitted up cav isn't out of question lol
Holy shit this was one of the best disasters, you really had everything going up against you and shit was hanging by a thread, the scene of the timurids crossing over the river while your line held desperately and the archers shot flaming arrows was epic as fuck.
those archers at the end with the flame arrows and a tiny amount of ammo left were so clutch
"Who ever crosses lose" I've never heard such true words before 😂
Timurid the Pious, such an oxymoron 🤣
He isn't called The Sword of Islam for nothing!
If he was any other religion he would be
@@fartz3808 He calls himself that. Muslims call him the Prince of Destruction because he kept killing them.
Its really incredible just how good Medieval 2 is as a video game.
It has always baffled me that Creative Assembly never remastered or made a Medieval 3 with only slight improvements. Had CA focused on DLCs for Medieval 2 instead of allowing modders to basically make DLCs they could have made a tidy profit.
@@TacoTomtheBomb They seem almost resentful of the game's existence. Perhaps now because every time a new game comes out our neckbeard rashes flair up and we take to the Internet to proclaim it inferior to Medieval II, and perhaps back then because modders were releasing better versions and better campaigns than CA did (Stainless Steel, Broken Crescent, Third Age etc.).
It’s one of those games people are gonna play for decades after its release. It’s so fun and well-made, and it can be modded. One of the most impressive games ever made.
I wish CA would have built upon its success better.
@@TacoTomtheBomb 2006 was still an expansion era. They made the 3 expansions and that's it. DLCs became a thing after 2008.
You know I never heard it put that way, but yeah that makes sense. I guess it makes sense to with Age of Wonders 4 I am playing because they have already committed to releasing 2 big and 2 small new release updates. Probably 2 are expansions and 2 are DLCs. And by the 3 expansions do you mean the 4 scenarios in Kingdoms or are you referring to Kingdoms, Viking Invasion and Barbarion Invasion? Wasn't there another one with like a campaign? I never played it but I just got the remastered original Rome Total War and was going to check out if Alexander is available for it. Happy Holidays buddy.@@InfiniteDesign91
Those type of fights where they are either really hard to get a clean victory or impossible to do so, are some of the best fights to watch, they remind me of fights I do in this game haha.
I had an absolute disaster of a HRE campaign, excommunicated with wars on all sides backed into a corner with only three settlements but by using tricks and cheese I learned from you now only the Iberian peninsula and Egypt are not under my control
God Tamerlane was such a badass. War elephants are so cool. And this will always be the best total war game.
Thing is though, the elephants that were integrated into his army played a very minimal or no part in much of the battles that he had. They were more a living rampart to terrify his enemies. Plus they came about very late on in Timurs life. The most ultimate and successful part of his army were those of the Chagatai Ulus.
I am loving this mix of fall of the samurai and medieval 2 videos. Keep them coming! :)
Lol at the Princess being named Maggote Dangerfield.
"I tell ya, I get no respect! When I was born my papa named me "Maggotte!" The Doctor asked "You wrote Maggotte on your son's birth certificate." My papa says "Maggotte? I meant to write an F!" No respect I tell ya."
I can't believe how this game still holds up today.
Sabadar Militia actually have armor piercing maces when they're in melee. They can hold their own decently well in close quarters. I don't think they'd beat Dismounted Feudals in a melee fight, but considering Sabadars are a missile unit, they're pretty good in a melee.
Man, after playing mainly TW Warhammer 2 and a bit of Atilla and Troy playing Medieval 2 for the first time in 2023 thanks to your videos feels really good! Cheers!
Good to see disaster battle but I do not understand why the hell did the author have such crap armies at this stage of the campaign
I indeed wonder the same.. maybe it's just whatever he could have scrounged up last minute as a response force from the back lines. But idk what the map situation is.
Edit:NM, I see the map now. But I can see how that army would just be a cheap rebel clapping force.
Hi LoTW.
Thanks for all the great battles and campaings! I do enjoy watching them.
Just a note, you can have the sharpened stakes wider and completely up against one another.
Simply take a single archer group and strech it as much as possible, do the same with the next and relocate it untill the stakes are nearly on top of one another.
I hope you'll see this, as I am happy to finally being able to return some new knowledge to you, whom has given me so much. Take care!
Timurids funneled down a narrow choke and running into spiked really reduced the effectiveness of the larger Timurid army. Reduced forces and fighting uphill against a prepared force is usually not a good idea. Timur "the pious"(lol oxymoron) really should have chosen a better battlefield to fight on.
He told everyone "God will protect us!"
And then murdered anyone that said God protects people by sending good advice to avoid bad ground.
My last campaign I did last week I went into Egypt and took over most the settlements then just gifted them all to the Papal States so that they could deal with the Mongols and Timurids for a laugh lol
Absolutely mad lad. Ordering probably tired footmen to run!
This was a fantastic battle. One of your toughest. Cannon elephants! A true disaster.
Pretty interesting challenge. Perhaps a wise move could be retreating and face the Timurids later with an army raised with, you know, the resources of the whole known world.
If those elephants at the end didn't just stay in place and break they could win this battle.
If the AI was smart enough, with sending the Elephants first with horse archers support for behind through the river, without a doubt Legend loses the battle.
Seriously, that english army was crap and their general was not-so-good when compared with the timurid one.
@@hernanreipp5259 This army would've been so much easier for the English side if he had musketmen tbh
I like elephants and God likes elephants.
Those are some pretty realistic elephants.
Terry davis
I remember the first time the timurids turned up when i was playing, had only cleared the mongols a few turns before, and BAM, pushed back to antioch where i fortunately had cannon towers, sally battles can be hilarious with cannon towers.
At 10:30😂. Almost called him Timberlake. History facts: in Iran they call him Timur-e Lang, which translates to 'Timur the Lame'.
Btw thanks for the video. This brought back memories. Most played total war for me.❤
"leg War here" - UA-cam subtitles.
The translator of UA-cam/Google never ceases to surprise us.
Haha. For a moment there I thought Legend was going to lose that battle.
How was bro using mailed knights and levy this late in campaign?
Bro owns the whole map, then the Timurids show up
Great stuff legend would love to see more historical streams.
Imagine being one of those five guys lol
I get excited for mornings even more cuz i always wake up to a new video lol
Keep up the great work
When its cavalry vs elephants i just think of theoden screaming: Bring it down, bring it down, bring it down!!!
Oh man, all the nostalgia buttons arw getting hit with these videos. That moment when youre just chilling at the end of your campaign and suddenly you see several doomstacks show up back when it wasnt common yet (like the Mongols before them, unlike how i already expected it when WH total war came around, or particularly the end game options you have now), so wild and suddenly a big unexpected challenge at a point where you expect none anymore...
Though now im also reminded of a stone-faced general (+200% bribe cost) with a full stack that i somehow bribed for like 800 gold lmao (not sure if that was medieval 2 or rome 1 though)
LegendofTotalWar uor the best on this dude.. i learned a lot with you
and you still can beat me... congratulations
I love medieval 2 videos so much!
All of Christendom will be awed by your victory!
lol never once got to the point of fighting the Timirids
I'll never get bored of Legend playing medieval TW ... not today ... not ever
"Timur the Pious" 😂
This is a job for pavis Crossbows...
But sharpened stakes are amazing...
Catapults and ballistas what you need for elephants. Especially ballista it is very effective
Artillery elephants are a tging in this game? 😮 It's the closer thing a warhammer player can have to a balista stegadon!
I'm a bit curious, is there a reason to leave your culverins not on explosive shot? (Phrasing ik) Explosive shot on those absolutely slaps on the americas campaign, but does it work differently against armored units?
IIRC it reduces accuracy
It explodes on the first unit hit, and against elephants that means you will only kill one elephant per hit. But if you get a good hit from solid shot, you can kill a few elephants with one cannonball as it goes hurtling through them. Using serpentines vs elephants will show just how devastating solid shot can be due to this factor.
I'd love to see you try this one again
Every elephant you kill is vengeance for the lost units and battles from Rome, Empire, and Medieval Total War due to people underestimating them
It sucks that elephants are immune to stakes.
More Fall of the samurai content pleees. Love the content keep it up! :)
'it's not a disaster campaign' Yeah, whoever sent this in definitely deus vult'd.
The music end the elephant unnibg at 16:47 gives me indiana johnes vibes like a chase kkkkk
It's hard to win clean victories against the Mongols and Timurids in the field in a straight-up battle. They always damage your army badly, that's why I don't fight them in the field, I fight them in a city, by that time in the game you should have cannon towers in most of your settlements, and you can beat them pretty badly with minimal losses. You did a good job. Later.
Do canon towers not fire properly in foggy conditions? I beat three timurid stacks in clear weather with canon towers but lost against one stack in foggy weather.
Interesting point. I never fought them in the fog, I always got lucky I guess.
@@tamberlame27Yeah, I’m pretty sure wet and foggy weather negatively affects towers, as well, just like all middle units. Definitely enough to turn the tide of a close battle, like in your case. They need clear weather to be most effective.
@@michaelstein7510 I wonder if visibility affects the towers, there was poor visibility and the towers hardly did any damage to the Timurid force.
@@tamberlame27 That would make sense. If the soldiers on the ground have poor visibility, then it makes sense that the archers/cannoneers in the towers would only have marginally better visibility, as well. I’m pretty sure the engine in M2TW is actually that sophisticated, which is impressive for a game released in 2006.
And it makes it all the more baffling and frustrating that the Warscape engine made combat and artillery so buggy in Empire Total War.
Love the historical content 👍
If you put your archers in lose formation before you deploy spikes, then you get like 2x more spikes per unit
Very useful tip thanks never occurred to me
@@Maesterfulyeah it’s kinda weird tbh. I figured it out by accident a long time ago. M2tw has so many little meta glitches
16:15 and we’re all out of Almighty intervention 💪
Oliphants, Mr. Frodo!
The music in this game is fucken bangin.
your poor horse was shot right in the face by the cannon lol
One thing that is unrealistic about the spike trap is that they would have set it like that but placed caltrops in the middle to try to bait them into charging through the gaps. Feel sorry for the horses though, nothing deserves to step on a caltrop. They're meant to be like antipersonelle mines- area of denial weapons that the enemy stays away from. Not like Tank Mines or IEDs that you want the enemy to roll right over.
Love your videos, but I have a question about medieval two total war. How the hell do you do with squalor because everything just gets ruined in my game because of squalor I have my taxes set to the max I try to do everything build everything that reduces squalor, but yet it just gets too high to the point where my public order can’t keep up with amount of squalor I produce even let it be and execute the population yet is still not enoughlet me know. I appreciate it. Keep up the good work love your videos.
max townhall & townguard, don't build blacksmiths siegeworks in every city, some generals have a solution, maybe we both shouldn't rush for growth
What I'm wondering is why he's still using Levy Spearmen on turn 148, they are awful
Yeah me too I never used them in open warfare 😂
probably had them either for clearing rebel settlements/have a garrison, or it was all he could muster on that side of the map, presumably recently conquered those territories which don't have the best barracks built yet.
Lol i had something like this once being england in turkey and then 7 seven stacks of timurids show up then leave the next turn
I hate how the archers in mtw2 shoot with such horrible angles sometimes. When they are shooting upwards like idiots it disperses all the arrows and basically does nothing but waste ammo.
Anyone else see "Prince Phillip the Profane" :'D
I think If CA would update the Rome Total War 1 and Medieval Total War 2 graphics to the level of the modern games and fixed their minor issues I think everyone would be playing them even today instead of newer titles like Rome II or Attila or even Warhammer
No, they are extremely outdated right now, face it. AI is braindead (yes, worse than in the new games, even if sometimes it seems impossible 😂), diplomacy is broken and mostly useless in both games, pathfinding in sieges is terrible, some types of unit do not work like intended at all. Don't get me wrong, I love Rome and Med II, they are one of the best Total War games, but they have their share of issues that aren't just cosmetic. Also Warhammer doesn't deserve shitting on it constantly imo, despite all the things that plagued it, especially recently, it is a great game overall.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 I do agree with everything you have said, but I still go for Med2 modded over Attila/Rome 2, when it comes to Warhammer, Empire gameplay in Beginning of end Times mod is waay better than in Warhammer 1-3, due to how gunpowder, crossbows and formations work there. When it comes to other factions it seems SFO2 or 3 might be better, but not sure yet. Definitely not vanilla though.
That being said I will 100% take good old population and trade system anda broken diplomacy, over a medium diplomacy and boring 3-slot province system.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 Oh dear maybe I didn't explain myself well enough
Yeah I know all of those things you said are absolutely true
In fact, Diplomacy was none existent in those two titles
When I was saying getting updated and also getting some bugs fixed I meant for those that you mentioned perfectly
I meant a complete remake of those games but with the same population and building system recruitment system trait system family member system and so on
I completely agree with your statement about the weaknesses of those games
@@bandaro1234 maybe formations and shooting is better in the mod for medieval, but single-entities/flying units behaviour, morale system and anything related to magic has to be better in Warhammer. Which isn't surprising, since Medieval engine simply wasn't created with such things in mind.
Still, your perspective is perfectly understandable for me, and I would like to see the population system to return in in some way in the next TW game.
@@LuzikArbuzik77 I disagree on morale though, due to the amount of various buffs throughout the game the morale becomes irrelevant later once you get a hand on better units, also difficulty blunts the shock caused by things like charges. The chain routing also seems less common, you gotta deal damage to rout units.
I also just reminded myself that units are less valuable in Warhammers due to the replenishment system, there is no such thing as manpower in Warhammer, which is a shame. Even rome 2 mods managed to introduce manpower.
that is one fast elephant...it is a timurid elephant...lol
RIP Timmy
It’s hard to try a game mode where you don’t conquer everything and see how they do against the other factions
Medieval 2 was a drug for me
This doesn't look like a disaster campaign. English faction would defeat hordes with that point for sure.
Honestly this is the legend I subsribbled to back in the day. The come back from downunder legend, the horse archer spam legend, the legend of total war, not the legend of Warhammer total war.
This content is so much nicer and honestly it feels like you love it a lot more than Warhammer or more modern CA games, which is great since it shows in your gameplay how much fun you're having.
Have you yet played the mod Empire 11 Total War yet Legend, before I download it I can't think of anyone I would rather get a slant on this mod than you?.
I heard a story about Timur( I don't know if it's true), a soviet excavation team opened the tomb of tymor link "Timur" they found a message that said " to whoever dare to open this tomb, you will face the wrath of he king, destruction and fire" 24 hours after that Nazi Germany launched the opperation Barbarosa on USSR.
Yeah the well know "Curse of Timur".
The first inscription said: "When I rise from the dead, the world shall tremble" and inside other inscription said: "Whosoever disturbs my tomb unleash an invader more terrible than I."
When the soviet archaeologist Mikhail Mikhaylovich Gerasimov opened the Tomb on 20 June of 1941, two days later the Germans invaded the URSS.
Also there is other legend that said Timur's remains were taken to Stalingrad to inspire the Muslim troops of the Red Army.
Timur was reburied with full islamic burial rites on 20 December 1942 a month before the German 6th Army and 4th Panzer Army was encircled by the soviets.
@@hernanreipp5259 Bro that's wild, it gives me goosebumps 🥶, it's too much for coincidence.
@@casawi1986 Operation barbarossa was already planned to start long before that.
@@Freefrost It was planned yes, but it was all fate for him to open it when he did. The stars aligned for it to be so
Looking at the minimap, it doesn't seem like a Dejester campaign...
elephant artillery is so cool holy shit
wouldnt it have been better to move the cannons to the other hill and bombarded the last elephants?
They no longer have ammo and move more slower than a snail.
Oh man this was a good battle, sad to see it has less views than cheese battle
I think the guy who sent in that disaster save intentionally gave you a mediocre army to fight the Timurids. Because I've never seen anyone have an army that ill-equipped to take on the Mongols, let alone the Timurids.
Good video as always Lege
Yoou need a unit in the valley to get the cav to charge over the spikes. I have fought the timurids in the same spot.
The AI of Medieval 2 Total War is very incompetent. When I play this game, I will give territories and funds to Timur, Mongolia, Moore and other forces. When the AI is powerful, the game becomes more interesting.
ASSEMBLE THE MEN
Difficulty of the battle?
why don't you have unit detail set to highest? the sprites look ugly.
i have the high ground you can't defeat me
GG!
Doomstack armies, LMAO.
Down to the wire.😉