Do We Have Free Will or Are We Predetermined?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- The question of whether we are fundamentally free or determined in our thoughts and actions has been in the middle of philosophical debate for many centuries. This is our take on the subject.
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“The history of philosophy has been dominated by competing arguments around the ideas of Free Will and Determinism. Simply stated, the issue hangs on whether human beings should be thought of as fundamentally free to choose their actions and mould their lives - or whether they should be deemed as being at heart determined by forces beyond their control, be they fate, biology, politics or class…”
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"We may be powerless to alter certain events, but we will always be free to choose our attitude towards them." That is if our attitude hasn't already been predetermined.
good point
@Bush 911 - Good point Bush911. Does that also include all the workings inside our brain?
As I finished this video, I was just about ready to refute that very point and here I see someone already did! Cheers!
your attitude is already predetermined but but... hmmm...🤯
@@KM-04 👍
The title of this video should be something like "Believe whatever you want about free will".
J. P.M. yeah, I'm disappointed
Jpm that's really all anyone EVER does about ANYTHING lol. The human mentality can only accept ONE truth at a time ( some see the glass half FULL others see it half EMPTY but NO ONE can see it BOTH ways simultaneously lol) granted one may see the glass as half empty at first may realize they depend on what is in it more than they had planned and begin to see it half empty. The same thing happens in reverse but it takes TIME to change that perception. No one goes from Christian to atheist overnight. People ALWAYS believe what they WANT even when it differs from what they KNOW! The bible is FULL of examples of this ( raising the dead,healing the sick,feeding the hungary,etc,etc and just the ENTIRE perception of religious "miracle" to begin with) we already KNOW these feats are humanly IMPOSSIBLE so to choose to believe they ACTUALLY happened goes AGAINST your human logic yet if your Christian you CHOOSE to believe through the imposed fear of ETERNAL consequences if you DON'T!!! Lol People CHOOSE what they believe and REFUSE the rest.
Funny, J. P.M.
Your comment is insightful. Thanks.
Individualism is the discourse of modernity.
I feel like he misses the point of the debate. The question is not wether one is more beneficial, but rather which one is most objectively true.
Is there such a thing as objective truth
dbsk06 Well that's a whole debate on it it's own. :D I think an objective truth can be constructed if one agrees on the axioms and logic.
it initially feels like a dodge. However, you can argue that the position of regarding yourself as freeish is sufficient for most people. It's impossible to dismiss the possibility that free will is illusory, but an ongoing illusion of free will might be functionally equivalent to the real thing. If a clear answer is impossible, then it makes an amount of sense to pivot to what is a useful position. However, even with that you could debate whether pivoting is an exercise of will or simply the universe program continuing to run. The same issue is contained in whether the audience is actually making a decision about altering their perception on the question. Framing things as a choice implies some level of control. Or does it?
Any answer is probably better than "who knows? Eat more vegetables and try not to think about it.". (A proper answer is probably initially a philosophical question and then requires some explanation of what free will actually means. I assume the answer is more complicated than if you're a materialist or not.)
we have compete free will. nothing is predetermined.
Hard Determinism is the truth but it doesn't really matter because you'll never have enough information available to you in order to determine what every single human is motivated by in order to predetermine all of their actions.
An example of this is if I asked you to name a city. You will more than likely name either the last city that you heard that day, the one you heard the most often in your life, or one that you like the best.
You cannot name me a city you have never heard of. So your options are limited by these things and if I knew the answer to all of these questions I should be able to predetermine your answer but even this kinda simple question would take a lot of information gathering to figure out what the answers could be and gathering enough information on 6.2 billion people to figure out how everybody will interact with one another would take too much work for it to ever work.
However, if you could gather that much information you could see how everybody will impact one another till the end of time.
Maybe a super computer some day will be able to do it. Probably not though.
Man can do what he wills, but he cannot will what he wills. - Schopenhauer
Michael Wu good
U must be A loaner
In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of god, hovering above? At least it is true, that man has no control, even over his own will. - Berserk
will can do what he mans, but he cannot man what he man - Reuahnepohcs
parker469a Power lies in where man believes it to lie. Man in the world of Berserk suffers excruciatingly, and began to imagine a god which dictates their fate and casts upon them pain. Their imagination becomes their subject of belief, and thus, they grant power to this image of god through this belief. The god who had its power granted by man now holds enough power to overpower man, albeit being an abstraction of man themselves. And in the world of Berserk, this image of god crept out of man’s own hearts, morphs, and materializes as the being it is now-the heart of the astral world, the world where all that are transcendental and spiritual resides within. And thus, it is within the world of Berserk, that man created god.
Free will never exist as long as we are a part of this universe. Every action we make, every thought we think is predetermined by another thought, another action, by ourself, someone else or something else. This is not inherently negative. The universe affects us in many ways and we affect it in many ways, you could almost think of us as the same being. It shapes us into who we are and allows us to shape and change it.
Good thoughts but you might get some more traction if you look for some typos.
SylenDraws did the universe tell to type this comment
Austin duh, that's what he was saying.
What typos?
SylenDraws my bad, I misread the second sentence. I don't see any actually.
Do we have free will?
“Of course, we have no choice”
It's a never ending cycle.
@temporary Traveler bro. When did they ever say that?
Jack Mehoff prisoners are bring to the jail to keep us safe out of these people.
@@AriffRed01 LOL :"D
@A N It may be argued that their crime-doing behavior was predetermined. It may be argued that it's their fate to live that "bad" life.
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"We always remain free to choose our attitude towards them"
We are not even free in that way. You will adopt an attitude that fits in with your past experiences and current state of mind.
Your neurological condition/fysiology might already be predetermined as well ...
@@Meow-gp5nk i was born to fail at life. Born ugly, bullied by father,, bad childhood and teenhood, cant get a gf, all these experiences lead me to do bad decisions as an adult. You see how all the pieces come together? I was predetermined to fail by way of domino effect.
@@karlhans6678 you could also have been predetermined to win against all the odds. but probably not because these "predeterminately useless" are the thoughts that are going inside your mind. unless you were even predetermined to have a change of mind as well. So change your mind and believe that you can. because even that could have been predetermined. who knows
@iam_bryan012 Rodriguez it's not possible for free will to exist. Your feeling of freedom is just because you have never say down and observed consciousness. Once you start paying attention it's easy to see that you are not in control in any meaningful way
yes but no one is forcing you to react on a certain way, to some degree you are free, absolute freedom obviusly doesn't exist because after all we are a bunch of atoms interacting whit the world
Even if we believe in the free will, there will always be some things that are not in our control and there will be things we cannot explain. If we believe in determinism, we can and should still do things, because what is supposed to happen will happen, but this doesn't mean we should just sit on our ass and observe the world. Never mind what our belief system is, doing what we can and letting things be if we cannot change them, that is the best recipe.
Quick Fix if you do sit on your ass and observe the world well that is predetermined. In fact the thing I'm saying to you is also predetermined. Everything is.
Khvote Windrunner It is relevant, really. If we can predict the future it means everything is a result of other things (basically it is like the butterfly theory). Which means everything is determined by what happened before... and so on. Consequently, we are laso determined.
Quick Fix That is my philosophy of life. I believe indeterminism but I also want to believe that I am determined to do great things.
Quick Fix yeah i totally agree
The thing is that some people who realised that there is no free will think that they dont have to do anything
And yes they can nothing for that 😂
Parallel Universe the problem is, people who DO try are people who don’t believe in predeterminism. If everyone knows and believes in predeterminism, everyone will stop working and stop being optimistic. Life is just a waiting game, right? Everything will fall from the sky.
I have my own Philosophy for this from my own diary which states something like this.
"Human are not free and Impossible to be free. As long as our brain are limited by the skull, space and time, we are unable to be free. All we can do is to pursue a higher consciousness to gain a higher freedom. All we can do is to widening the jail, instead of get out of it"
The son of Liberty In your definition, absolute freedom would be boring as fuck, not considering the logical problems that arise when you enter the real of omnibeings
The son of Liberty The same with mine. Our mind should undergo transcendence to truly understand freedom. Maybe to the point of understanding the mind of god.
Eating shroom's must be like an all out jail-break!
It really depends on how much you can maximise your consciousness to.
The son of Liberty thats very deep
And i agree but i think there is just a limit and we cant wide it
The video is based on the false assumption, that the believe in determinism leads to inaction/defeatism. Even though the outcome of our actions might be predetermined, this doesn't mean that not taking action will lead to the same result, as this video falsely implies.
I thought that was kind of strange too. Simply knowing the limitations of free will isn't enough to make someone so defeated unless they want to be. If that were the case, a lot of religious people I know would be pretty nihilistic right now.
Thing is: they made studies in which they either told the subjects that they had free will or not. Consistently, those that believed they had free will acted more accordingly to their better judgement than those that didn't. It's an old pragmatist point of view that free will is a useful belief, and I agree
It's exactly like people who say you don't believe in God and so don't have any purpose in life, that's just not how it works.
I thought the whole point was that you should find a balance between the believe in determinism and free will to prevent defeatism
The studies may reflect a large proportion of people who believe they have no free will and in turn also often believe their actions and thoughts have no impact on the world or their life outcome (which is obviously false). You cannot get trapped in that false assumption, if you do believe in free will. (Which is probably the point the video is trying to make).
The vid is still oversimplified and confusing, imo.
The only problem with the aspiration philosophy and why it sometimes goes wrong is because no matter how hard you work to change your life, there will ALWAYS be situations where you NEED ACCEPT from another party, whether its you trying to get a job or trying to get into a relationship with a person. There are some aspects you just can't get through on your own and is thus the biggest obstacle even to the most determined and self-reliable person. But like "The school of life" said, its all about how your attitude is towards these obstacles that will ultimately determine your success in the long run.
this is a young american's thinking
@@humbertlong3042 how does old Americans think?
Yeah it’s like if I want a hot E girl to want me but then see she’s taken by a fat fucking neck beard who gets her days on end when you’ve been told you look like you pull TONS of women.
That’s one example, honestly though, some fools don’t deserve what they have, I feel many have their days at an end, they simply abuse what they have, I just don’t agree with either philosophy, one implies we choose and the other that there MAY be a power bigger than us which is dog shit.
Row, row, row your boat
Gently down the stream
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily
Life is but a dream
Sad
Eternal sunshine of a spotless mind.
''Man is greater then anything he can say about himself''- Alan Watts
It appears that we have free will to accept determinism. Ironic.
No we don't. You can't decide to be convinced or not about an argument. If determinism makes sense to you; you will believe it is true. If it doesn't make sense to you; you won't believe it is true. Where is the freedom in what I described?
Throughout your entire statement. Your argument is that we can consider one verse the other and make a choice. That is free will.
understand this and then you can see why "free will" is impossible ---> "our "free will" is based on past environmental and genetic interactions"
"free will" is something that we feel/experience it as because we never think about all the events that go on that we can't perceive.
Max Brinker , you are misusing a verse to prove your point. Any man has the choice to do anything he wishes. A man can still do good, even if he isn’t saved; and vice versa, those who are saved can still do wrong. We are given that choice, otherwise we’d be mindless drones unable to even have this conversation.
And that verse does not mean what you’re saying. Yes, only God can approach God of his own accord; but that divide was destroyed when Jesus died for us. I’m not sure where you got this point of view, and I’m not sure I totally understand what your even saying with this comment, but I hope I can shed some sort of clarity.
There are a lot of people who are butthurt in this thread over OP's joke.
I am sorry the ones who are were predetermined to have a stick up their ass
try to know the next thought you’re going to think, the next idea that’ll pop into your head. most things are subconscious or simply out of our control
If you could do that, you could see into the future
You can't control the thoughts that pop into your head. I think that was your point.
Well as soon as you "predict" it actually became your next thought... Trippy paradox
I did that awhile ago on my job interview. I said to myself "fuck it, que sera sera" it didn't end well of course 😅
@Ryan Smith after reading your comment, my next thoughts were either to reply or not. But i chose not to..... wait...
Fate obviously doesn't exist. It's more of an idea than anything. There's a lot of things we have no control over, but you also have much more control over a great many more things than you think. You could have died long ago by not checking the street twice, by running in to the wrong person. The fact that we have so much control also means that we can have little to no control at all in certain situations.
You are determined to look both ways. As a child you got a free will but everyone watches upon you, to not cross the street on red light, to not touch the power supply etc...
It’s a mixture of the two because every action and thought comes from another and originally .. they are either determined by us, the universe, circumstances or other people
I feel like it's more of a probability thing,when you toss a coin,you only get 3 outcomes,same thing is with life,look at wt all people are doing,they are kinda doing the same shit
@@Look73689 I agree with this. However I’m curious about the 3rd outcome of flipping a coin?
@@dinonspace8620 i mentioned the 3rd outcome because if i had just said 2 outcomes then people would say oh we can even get a 3rd one too.
this notification determined my action
you were presented a situation and chose what to do about it
PROdigeYw Subconsciously decided. Your conscious mind can have the ability to override your subconscious impulses, but for me in this case, nope.
Notification determined you starting the video, but it was your choice to finish it.
@@ironmantis25 You do realise with over 50 muscles to move at a time in the span of a second that unconscious brain activity has to work extremely fast to do whatever you chose?
@@anabanana9582 nope choosing is predetermined as well
Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody's gonna die
Deyw that has nothing to do with free will you know?
I dont even think that the rick and morty universe has this question in it but it would be interresting
come watch tv?
Nice reference
+Schinkenkeks
Affirmation of Infinite universes is the ultimate destroyer of free will. Every choice is made. Every outcome is experienced. Some are just far more *likely* than others.
The likeliest outcomes are the universes where we act like we have free will.
I believe it does. Especially some of the quotes that relate to the analogy of us drifting like a piece of dust in the cosmos, or to put a saddle on your universe. Regarding the determinism representing ricks nihilistic outlook as well as doing what he can to enjoy that which he chooses what matters to him regarding in which he struggles to admit what he really cares about behind the complicated characteristics of rick himself. Its really interesting the concepts of some philosophy and theoretical science that is stirred up within the show.
I knew so much premonition in my life....thousands of things, as a theme of my mostly set life and surroundings I will know. I tried, in my mind, to change the outcomes and I have yet to change the premonition results. If I did alter anything; I still was not powerful enough to alter the stronger patterns of power over me.
Richard Kelch me too. I have experienced life as you have, something's are completely unalterabe and already set and won't or can't be changed yet religious people say that we have a choice and can affect outcomes.
"For fate the willing leads, the unwilling drags along"
-Cleanthes
This video isn't a response to the question about whether we actually do have free will or not- it's a response to the question: Is it in our interest to hold the belief that we have free will or not? That is an interesting question, but to me it's a bait and switch.
Yes. It’s a promotion for stoicism. I was surprised there wasn’t a book for sale at the end of video.
Determinism doesn't imply the denial of personal responsibility. This video isn't about helping understand reality or see the truth, it's about how to delude yourself in order to get the mindset the SoL wants you to.
This is encourages belief according convenience which is something utterly pathological in the long term.
Control Theory Or does it? If you are just a cog in a machine, how can you say your failure or success is based on your choice?
@@woah5333 Regardless of whether free will exists or not, this video is harmful to the conversation. This is just one of many times that School of Life has employed very shallow philosophy which the channel has been criticized for by many.
@@woah5333
You can't when your choices aren't free and are only a reaction to your current sensory input, the stuff you remember, the futures you predict.
@@i.i.iiii.i.i well, isn't that exactly what people mean by free will? To do what they wish to happen and avoid what they don't? No one asked any one to stir the dust on Mars' surface, rather to not carry knives around malls! Predetermined in the sense that we, the society, don't want cute little things leak bodily fluids and eradicate a being we care about. The free will debate is about *that kind* of predeterminism that society pushes to.
And, before expanding the technical meaning of free will to looser terms, *remember: no one asked to stir the dust on Mars!*
@Snow Snow where the choice is yours. Whether you spend money wisely or waste it recklessly. That is whay I mean with free will. Not the absolute freeness to choose whatever that could ever be done.
Life is literally an AAA game or a game with a story. You can do whatever you want to do in that game but you still have to follow the story and its objectives to move on.
What if we’re predetermined to have free will
'Predetermined' usually refers to ' events' causes are events themsleves are predetermined '.
It's like: football rules, field's lengths and matches' times and teams are predetermined this moment for the next 4 years. Well, DUH! But are you determined to fail? That is the question.
@@reda29100 no but what if it's already planned to make us believe that we have free will
@@abdullahrazack
I'm sorry. You sound like a troll, that's why my response sounds so sarcastic.
So you doubting and thinking now that you have no free will is part of the programming too? How about the other way around? What if we're programmed by an evil simulator that wants us to believe that we *don't* have free will?! Wouldn't that make it easier for him to perpetuate this cycle with him/it interfering?
I do sound so toxic, and I apologize in advance.
@@reda29100 But what if in the end, whether we believe in free will or not is what he wants.
@@reda29100 Why would he not want us to believe in free will?
Because free will exists?
That would be too stupid.
Anyways in the end, it questions our reality.
Who are we?
What is our destiny?
What are we supposed to do?
I can relate to this my overall life by thinking of when I'm in traffic. There are things I can control such as checking Google Maps for traffic jams and planning my route. But there are things I can't control. Like when every possible route has something going on, which I have had on many occasions. Then when I'm sitting in traffic, I stay calm by reminding myself that I can't control it. Yelling at the cars in front will not make it move. Now this goes out the window when I'm running late and I'm on a road that never has traffic but except now.
In my introduction to philosophy book by Korman, desires are said to be one of the problems with free will since we can’t control our desires or even desire defeating decisions to change our desires. Baron Hol’bach really talked about free will in that book while Korman provided counter examples to each argument like desire and determinism. The balance between our desires and what we cannot change wasn’t mentioned in the book. But my course is to teach how philosophy works, not ethics so it made sense. A beautiful balanced message ending :)
Every decision we make, every action we take, everything that happens anywhere anytime ever is influenced by the history of the universe up to that point. So you always have the freedom to make your choices, but everything is predetermined.
But your choice is predetermined, you just don't realise it
This topic sounds very useful to our daily life and can reduce our agony from various fields(such as love, career, etc..). It also reminds me the famous quote, "God, give us grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, courage to change the things that should be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish the one from the other."
To a degree things are pretedetermined you don't choose where you're born,your parents,envirement ,talents, areas u might greatly excell in. But a degree of free will is a luxury given to individuals who are awake and not asleep under influence of social conditing,others,envirement . Whether u end up in prosperous or miserable life circumstance to a large degree depends on you and if you cooperate with life not to mention your reaction to what happens to you can impact whether future event may be beneficial to you or not.
Agreed
This completely misses the point of the debate
Unless all of that is already predetermined; your outlook, "wokeness" about conditioning, environment, others, etc.
GODDAFUCKING DAMMIT !!! FINALY SOMEONE WITH SOME SENSE !!! THANK ANYTHING THERE IS IM NOT ALONE !!!!
@Sam certain factors within a life lane are predetermined but a choice to switch to a different more favourable one is yours .
It's not really a contribution to the age-long debate, but rather a reframing of the question-
placing it into context of the emotional implications the argument, why or why not one may be motivated to believe in free will/determinism. I agree with the notion that our own emotional disposition plays a large role in whether we favor the idea of free will or determinism over the other. It certainly prompted me to introspect on my own deterministic outlook, and its possible relationship with my own emotional experiences of failure.
I believe that nobody is compelled to believe in either determinism or free will based on purely rational, or intellectual grounds.
However, SoL's approach may be seen as to detract from the free will debate itself by disregarding the question at hand, or reducing it to an irrelevant matter of preference.
You say it detracts from the free will debate? I say it's an excellent thing! It's one of those useless and sterile debates along with "does God exist?" or "are there other universes?" Instead of seeking the truth in a case where the truth is clearly not accessible to us, we can try to answer the question for which we can find an answer: " what effect do my beliefs have on my life?" Once we answered that and we still have time to waste, sure let's debate what was before the big bang.
@Rui Ning Wang
I agree, in this case I found it very relevant and meaningful.
Do not think about pizza.
I bet you just thought about pizza didn't you. No free will.
Nyctimene I think even hard determinists agree that rational thinking is not the only factor coming into play into determining a human action or decision. Instead it's a convolution between your beliefs, desire, and temperament. It might be your utopic ideal to only rely on rational thinking, but the reality of humanity is very different. Some people believe the earth is flat and that vaccines give autism to children..
Well you said it yourself, we all think we are being rational, but others might very rightly disagree with us. I think you underestimate how good we are at lying to ourselves. I'm not saying that people consciously choose to believe something contrary to the extent of their rational capabilities, but instead our beliefs are subconsciously shaped by much much more than what we are ready to acknowledge, or even able to acknowledge, starting by our own desires and temperament.
And the other point is that our human perception is very limited, even when we try to look into ourselves! So when we try to build our beliefs, we often only have a very limited set of data. So of course if you build your belief rationally with this meager set of building blocks, it's going to be very shaky and uncertain and with holes. But we are often overconfident in the validity and "sea-worthiness" of our beliefs. Having only our own mind, we don't have so many other perspectives to compare with. There is kind of a Dunning-Kruger effect at play here! I think we all often overestimate our rational capabilities.
tldr; we think we are being rational, but we often don't realize how little we know and how shaky our beliefs are.
*Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.*
...At least according to the character Macbeth. Who knows what I truly believed?
What inspired you to write that?
William, I can't tell you how much I love you :- )
"In this world, is the destiny of mankind controlled by some transcendental entity or law? Is it like the hand of God hovering above? At least it is true that man has no control, even over his own will"
I once wrote this in a poem:
I believe in paradox:
I believe free will
Rides valiant on the mighty steed
Of space-time's rolling mill.
In the absence of belief in the supernatural, a knowledge of physics inevitably leads to the acceptance of 'hard' determinism. However, I always strive to remember these two things:
(1) Even if free will is an illusion, it's one that seems to work much of the time, so relax.
(2) If Many Worlds Interpretation (of quantum mechanics) is true, then it's possible to have both free will AND determinism: every decision you make plays out in all possible outcomes, but you only get to experience one of them, so in a sense you've 'made a choice' without violating the laws of physics. I admit this is a very unscientific hypothesis, but it's one I like to hold because it gives me some comfort :)
But what if, still, everyone's choise combined (totality of conscious beingd combined) *is* what determine which universe we go to?
Like, we are 3 beings and tons of atoms. Atoms' actions and influence in which universe we tend to is out of our hands, but our decisions, we the 3, of doing hundereds of different things (moving hands or thinking about doughnuts) will lead the branching (within the universe atoms lead to from possible worlds) to specific universe?
More like the dog and the leash but within the choices we ourselves can choose. More like the free will is meant in the choices we may have, not those out of hands.
i know it's been 3 years, but i just wanna say: nice poem, pal
@@xx_xxxxx_xx4800 Thanks!
@@macronencer i think its a disgrace to humanity. shame on you sir, shame on you. remove this horrid poem
@@macronencer By looking at these facts as an objectivist-compatibilist, I definitely agree with you.🙂👌
Besides, there's also sufficient evidence in the scientific community to support the existence of free will (which came in the product of evolution, where living beings that make conscious choices tend to surivive more✅ than those that dont)
slate.com/technology/2013/09/free-will-debate-what-does-free-will-mean-and-how-did-it-evolve.html
Hence, I agree with you and its the reasonable and sensible statement to have.👍
Out of all these videos, this one Desperately needs a part two. Using an outside view of this question and of Defeatism Vs. Aspiration need to be expanded on even deeper, as I feel the implication that you can and should swap between these two equally useful viewpoints as needed is extremely useful in Mental Therapy and life in general. The concept of being able to let go of the overall question of being right or wrong, and actually using philosophical concepts to fit the situation should be taught everywhere. That's main one goal of philosophy, not to be right and prove others wrong, but to be able to make the best possible choices in life based on your readily available evidence. Because sometimes you'll be happier going your own way like a dog exploring the woods, or you'll be happy being pulled towards something you desire, like a dog to the food bowl.
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I think a good place to start and help grasp the deeper concepts here would be to continue the dog and leash analogy and go further into the mental concept of the leash itself.
To create a base point, let's say you're a comatose vegetable with no brain activity. Obviously, you have no control or mind to do so, so the analogy would be that your leash length is zero and tied directly to the cart. From that starting zero, what determines the length of the leash? One such measure could be wealth, thereby allowing you to buy anything and be anywhere. Or would it be simply willpower? (where does that willpower originate? Fame? Social Power? Just an over-inflated ego?) But, this leash also comes with the problems of maintaining that length/wealth/willpower, which will make you beholden to other individuals (Chairmen & Investors, Customers, Family, etc) who deal with your income, life, and outcome of your actions. So is this leash really as long as it appears or do more social contracts shorten it?
Further, if you are held responsible by more people, the analogy could go on to say you have not just one, but many different leashes, each pulling on you at different tensions. So, do we have any actual control of the length of the leash AND the number of leashes around our necks? Sure, you can sever ties with people, gain some extra length by working on financial goals. But some leashes appear unbreakable or stagnant, like trying to run faster than a tiger or trying in vain to make a wealthy/upper class individual favor you over their own kin.
I could go on, but in Summation: What determines the length of the lease? How many leashes are there? And, is it possible to alter any of these leashes at all? Sometimes, we all need a little direction/defeatism and a little freedom/aspiration, and the amounts could change even daily.
Every day people don't research free will. If you research deeply; like by reading Harry G. Frankfurt, Robert Kane, Peter van Inwagen, Maurice Mandelbaum, Derk Pereboom etc. then it is really difficult to find a side I find.
Matthew Fouracre what's ur side?
I believe it's a combination of both, some moments are absolute points and are pre determined while some gives us choices
Both are results of the butterfly effect & the butterfly effect is build off of freewill
@@pacman207 butterfly effect is built off of determinism because determinism dictates that everything happening now is based off of something that came before, like a chain reaction that was predetermined at the beginning of it all. Like the first domino falling, or the butterfly effect.
I don't necessarily mind the fact that all your videos are pretty much theoretical all the way but I think that providing us with examples when needed is going to help us understand what you are talking about considerably .
Thank you!
The fact that we ask this question with those two possibilities in mind just means that they are both occuring and true.
I follow both determinism and aspiration, while I see technical correctness in determinism I also agree that the emotions and workings of the human brain tend to misunderstand what it really means; it doesn't mean fate or an inability to change for example, just that these outcomes follow from the past and whatever state of wiring your brain currently is in and that the very knowledge of determinism is an event that can affect what you are 'determined' to do.
Although I’d like to believe in Fate sometimes, I think humans have choice and do form their own path. Now free will, I don’t think everyone possess. Including myself, for example, my will tells me to get my ass up and get to the gym, how ever I choose not too due to my weak mind and lack of actual free will. Since my will Is enslaved to other things like unhealthy living, I wouldn’t consider it free. Though it is always free to choose, only a small amount of people imo, actually have a strong enough will to choose exactly what they know will bring them they’re desired result no matter how hard or painful it is.
Choice ≠ Free Will
@@memenchance1747 not necessarily, a lot of people only have choices to choose between that they don’t want. Like all the choices. Someone in jail for instance. Sure we have choices still, you always really got some sort of choice, that doesn’t equate to free will.
Both exist, the answer lies in knowing superposition and both are possible, there are no sides. The answer like everything in this life is a continuum, a pendulum that swings.
Jimmy neutron
Whether there is free will or not it is up to you, no one has the answer to the absolute truth but you because you are the only one who can choose what your truth is. Furthermore, at life there are things that are out of your control and there are also things that is are only under your control, it is easy to confuse the two but instead of seeing them as black and white, just as previously discussed in earlier SOL videos, you must find ambivalence to differentiate the two and take the proper course of action for the situation.
You don't choose though because free will doesn't exist.
Lol fucking horrid comment
Everything is predetermined. EVERYTHING.
What have you experienced that you would say aligned strangely or perfectly?
Simplified : Everything is meaningless.
Refuted: Does you statement make sense?
If it does then everything is not meaningless :P
thats the meaning you derive from it. you say everythings meaningless, but if someone asked you what it meant, you would say "nothing" which is and of itself a meaning technically. nihilism alot of times is an expression of silent depression, a form obscure and behind the scenes it has escaped the grasp of your conscious awareness, and has instilled itself as a "fact of life" within your philosophy. ive felt the same way, and still do at times, but i know that what im saying is more or less a fact. how could it not be?
so when you die, does everyone else stop existing? ...solipsist logic...
Can you support your claim with evidence?
Sounds like defeatism
As some people suggest, it is true that we can't determine our quirks, who our parents will be, in what conditions we will grow up etc.. Allthough we have the freedom to choose between some littler details in life, part of the decisions are happening sub-conciously, while others (larger decisions) are determined by our wants and needs, which we got influenced on while we were growing up.
Our life is predetermined:
1. We are ALL going to die one day from something.
2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced.
3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place.
(OSICA).
Is not bcs we gonna die, forget and be forgotten that we ain't free
That is not free will. You'd be talking about Maximal Autonomy.
Our personality is the continuity of every decision we ever made. So free choice is crucial to identify as the person we are.
If you believe in determinism, you believe that you never made any decisions in your life. There would be no difference, as everything is just the product of causality.
I know you can't prove one thing or the other, but i really have to believe in free will, otherwise it would drive me into depressions.
That's zest beautiful. Dead riot there. Free choice is not equal to free will _-_Eight 8_____-/
You have will. But it certainly isnt free.
Love
Do you mean causality?
Yes, it's interesting to think about how our attitude towards the events in our lives affect us, but that does not answer the question of how our attitude *came to **_be_** in the first place* - through free will or a pre determined fate- and that was the question and this was a kellyanne conway answer.
This is one of the school of life videos I am disappointed by. I was hoping it would explore the theory that our the exact & unique life experiences and situation give rise to the neuronal network that *make* us more aspirational or defeatist, or whether we develop that attitude completely on our own arbitrarily.
That question is irrelevant as long as one doesn't define what one understands under "Free Will". If you mean it to be a complete detached pure mind that can feather decisions based on a divine insight then there will never be an end to the discussion. On the other hand once one accepts our brain to be a dependente entity one must value the myriads of outcomes it can produce when it starts grinding over a problem. Sure, if one only looks at pure reaction we are less competent but give us some time and open circumstances to reflect and the decision tree with possible outcomes becomes vast.
School of life follows a philosophy of extreme pragmatism. They don't care about finding truth or deep considerations. As long as you understand that, not only you won't be disappointed, you will predict what they will talk about
Free will and predetermined fate are not mutually exclusive. In the future you'll do what you'll do regardless of if freely or not.
Yes, self awareness and iterative thinking broaden the decision space beyond pure reaction. If not rushed and over time a vast tree of influencing factors and capabilities interact (and interlock) with each other. Even if this happens deterministically the logic inside this interaction network is so vast that it needs it's own name. This "competence" as Daniel Dennett calls it is virtually independent of an underlying deterministic or indeterministic universe. Freedom therefor depends on your competence (giving you freedom of choice) and unavoidable circumstance (constrains on your choice). To value one over the other and align your life accordingly is the task portrait in this video.
That's a good point. Is the way someone feels about something, their attitude is pre-determined. How do you change that, since your attitude is not really that easy of a fix with a whole lifetime of subconcious infiltration and influence from everyone around you. We are to some extent a collection of reactions that we learned in the past.
There is an interesting conversation about this but at the end of the day it’s pretty much pointless because we certainly feel like we have free will
I think we hover between a state of free will and a predetermined one.. The two coexist.. Another question what If freewill is part of the fate..?
How we choose to see what is in play during the challenging circumstances in life- whether it's free will or determinism is dependent on which view is more suitable to keep us moving forward without being stuck. Both are in fact just ideas. The objective Truth can only be known only after thorough persistence, firstly on the worldly level that will prepare us to undertake far more deeper analyses that may or may not lead to spiritual transcendence
Having a destiny makes a lot of sense and free us from a lot of anxiety.
The main argument for predeterminism is physical. Politics and social environments may undirectly and partly determine our actions, but they are physically determined just as well. It's not just that it could hardly be another way: everything simply cannot be, and never could have been any different.
This theory seems to be widely accepted now, and it's also been supported by the latest research in neuroscience.
Nevertheless, the conclusion of the video remains a nicely balanced way of dealing with the idea of a completely determined world as well as with the (so damn convincing) illusion of free will that keeps us going.
I simply love how the animation is always so well thought out on your videos
I think the healthy middle is to exercise free will to shape your life as much as possible, and do as much prevention of bad things as you can even in small ways. Small things can set in motion larger things later. BUT when bad things do happen, as the Christians say "put it in God's hands". Accept, learn, and deal with what is.
If brains are complex machines made up of systems that respond mechanically to stimuli, then isn't everything we ever do in life technically pre-determined and calculatable? By this logic, wouldn't everything that came before us, since the big bang, and everything that is to come, all be pre-determined?
Only if we assume that it is possible to know every input and that there is no coincidence at all. But the world (quantum physics) teaches us that coincidience is a crucial part of the universe.
Even if everything was pre-determined and we knew all inputs/ starting values and laws, it still would be impossible to calculate, because you calculator would need at least the same complexity and energy as the universe itself.
Adding randomness doesn't actually help matters. When people claim to have free will I don't think they typically mean "I picked coke instead of Pepsi based on random fluctuations at the quantum level that I have no control over"
Agreed. Randomness doesn't create free will. But ultimately, it doesn't matter if free will exists or not, because we never know what will happen in the future.
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i dont see any evidence that the randomness of quantum mechanics is effecting our world, therefore we should be able to calculate everything, & our decisions to some extent.
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i dont think that its correct that our decisions are just the product of brain chemicals, it is to some extent, but i think the bigger cause to our decisions is prior knowledge
I've had a theory about this for a long time, but it depends on your beliefs. If you believe in God, and if you believe in God creating everything, that means God existed before the Creation. Which should also mean that God exists outside of space and time. If one accepts that as given, then free will is an illusion. By that I mean that if God exists outside of space and time, that means that God can see everything all at once, all time. That means God sees everything that was, is, and is yet to come at least by our limited understanding. In that sense, our lives are already determined. It's only our inability to experience time except in a linear fashion that gives us the illusion of free will and/or choice. So in that sense, by our understanding both exist simultaneously.
Very good, I’m happy that someone else thinks this way too. But with all of that, wouldn’t it change everything from what’s true to just accepting everything for what is? This is a big part of my daily anxiety I feel. It’s like a paradox of I see proof that things seem to happen for a reason and then it will be a whole month of random chaos…. But eventually I see that chaos as it taught me something so then it must be for a reason if it’s teaching me.
@@dinonspace8620 I believe we can find lessons in many situations, whether that situation was intended by a higher power to provide a lesson or not. Likewise, where we see chaos and feel there is no meaning behind it, and perhaps feel like we have no real power to affect any real change (I struggle with the stress of this feeling myself), I always come back to the feeling that whether or not there is free will, in our understanding we still have the perception of free will, and from that standpoint ignorance is not bliss, but perhaps in a sense limited perception is bliss??
I am extremely confused about broader implications of fully embracing deterministic ideas.
I wonder, is there any motivation for improvement in a deterministic philosophical stance? Since I cannot choose to stick to my diet, I can really just witness if my illusory 'self' is strong enough to resist a temptation prompted by unconscious systems (perhaps activity of: hypothalamus, hormones produced to a cue of a juicy cheesburger, memory traces, blood sugar levels etc.)
When "I" successfully go through with my diet, "I" cannot take credit for that as every time "I" have struggled with many different options such as: - eating a donut or nor eating it, - bravely resisting tempations in spite of a hunger, - switching to a completely different diet, - denying futility of sticking to a diet, - believing that a given diet will bring positive changes to my life,
... all these and many more, potential options, actions, and mental states, are nothing but information entering my field of consciousness. "My" decision to continue with a diet in spite of difficulties is also an inevitable consequence of previous mental states that "I" do not control.
Therefore, virtues of temperance, willpower, etc. are nothing more but labels that we stick onto individuals fortunate enough to have neuroarchitecture and life experience that yield their exemplary actions.
With this knowledge, how then can you sustain your motivation, knowing that nothing you ever did (or will do), was a result of your independent choice? Hey, since my failure of an exam was inevitable, as will be my decision to repeat it, or dropping from university, or joining military ,or committing suicide, etc. etc...
Class, fate, politics, culture, history....biology trumps everything.
You don't actually address any of the standard philosophical objections/problems with free will.
The illusion of free will has nothing to do with philosophy, but of biology.
@@ThriftyCHNR - Heheheh, then explain to me, biologically, why and how i see the world as i do.
Biology study living things, but certainly not everything about Life ! If you don't agree, then explain me why we have Psychology to study human mental functions and behavior when it can be explained by Biology ?
Where there isn't a methodology to do things and study them, Philosophy applies ! That's why Philosophy deals so much about subjective experience, why things happen as they do, rather than gravity or other methodological subjects for example.
@@Hgulix62 Psychology is v.flawed; the biological mechanisms can be adressed once the technology is here in a few centuries. Psychology is currently just treating the symptoms and not the underlying biological cause.
@@Meow-gp5nk - Not at all, Therapeutic psychology is just one of many psychological fields. Cognitive psychology underline biological causes of mental functions.
@@ThriftyCHNR does philosophy exist?
It is the erroneous view that we exist separately from anything that happens that leads to confusion in this regard. We are collectively the will of all that is. Predetermism and free will are one in the same. Through absolute acceptance and ultimately surrender to the way we achieve a conscious understanding of this.
Not sure about this one Alain... interesting idea nonetheless! But the thought that whether we *do* have free will or not surely is worth considering? Not just whether it is more beneficial to believe so. Seems like a dangerous idea that the truth of how the world actually is should be disregarded, in favour of just believing whatever makes our lives better. Thought experiment: if I am happier and lead a more fulfilling life if I believe that the earth is flat, should I avoid pursuing the truth and believe it?
That makes an interesting philosophical question. In my opinion, that depends, if your happiness means negatively impacting other people through your beliefs, then that's not a good thing. But if your ignorance makes you a better person for yourself *and* for others, why is there a need for truth? "When ignorance is bliss, it's folly to be wise."
@@Kevin-qh1ve - Can really ignorance makes a better person ?
Everything is cause and effect therefore we have no free choices
I find it wonderfully liberating to observe 'my' actions, body and thoughts. Even attitude to events is ultimately not mine. Ultimately, as Consciousness, not projection, we are freeeee.
Whether someone will take the stoic approach will be causally determined by their past circumstances.
As the saying goes: we may do what we will, but we can not will what we will.
It doesn't matter if our will is free or not. It is more inportant to make conscious choices.
Free will is an illusion and here is the argumentation:
From the lense of neuroscience:
Marcus Du Sautoy (Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford and the Simonyi Professorship for the Public Understanding of Science) participates in an experiment conducted by John-Dylan Haynes (Professor at the Bernstein Center for Computational Neuroscience Berlin) that attempts to find the neurological basis for decision making.
Short summary:
The experiment explores the relationship between free will, decision-making, and brain activity. Marcus Du Sautoy participates in an experiment in Berlin where they have to randomly decide to press either a left or right button. Brain scans and computer records track when the decision is made in the brain and when the button is physically pressed.
The results reveal that up to six seconds before Marcus Du Sautoy consciously makes a decision, their brain has already made that choice. Specific patterns of brain activity can even predict which button will be pressed. This finding challenges the notion of free will, suggesting that unconscious brain activity significantly shapes our decisions before we become consciously aware of them.
The experiment also delves into the nature of consciousness. It argues against dualism-the idea that the mind and brain are separate entities. Instead, it posits that consciousness is an aspect of brain activity. The unconscious brain activity is in harmony with a person's beliefs and desires, so it's not forcing you to do something against your will.
Marcus Du Sautoy finds the results shocking, especially the idea that someone else can predict their decision six seconds before they are consciously aware of making it. The experiment raises profound questions about the nature of free will, consciousness, and the deterministic mechanisms that may govern our decisions.
From the lense of pysics:
In order to question the belief in free will, one can conduct experiments and contemplations. Take an action you are convinced you performed and reverse-engineer it until you realize you had no control over it. This leads to the conclusion that all actions in life are the same, and the notion of claiming ownership falls away, so free will is non-existent.
By 'reverse-engineering an action,' I mean tracing back the steps that led you to make a specific decision. Upon close examination, you'll find that your choice was influenced by a series of past events and conditions over which you had no control, and that your choice didn't originate from a single point. One could argue that everything originates from the Big Bang, making us essentially biological robots. This realization may prompt you to reconsider how much 'free will' you actually possess, as your actions are shaped by factors beyond your control, both in the past and likely in the future as well.
So you can summarize everything is a happening according to cosmic laws.
When we are tied to a cart and a leash we are not free to choose our own destiny and free will.
But when the lead comes off us and we are not tied to a cart we are free to choose our destiny and that’s having free will. Some people see things ,events before they happen and what if that can change into free will? We don’t have to go into that spiritual or life path if we have free will. Those who don’t have free will are bound and they are tied to a leash for life and forever.Just remember that we are linked with choices and we are constantly living in different shifting realities where things that are yet to come may or may not happen defined by the choices we make in life. How do we know we have free will? Only god can determine that. Free to choose you have free will. Bound you don’t have free will. The devil will bound you but god gives you free choice or free will. I pray god gives me free will.
Nihilism is the answer. Absolute Nothiing is nonsense because its unquantafiable, undefineable, unmeasureable etc. . Determinism = Infinity cause theres always more reasons, logic, scientific study. So infinity is nonsense because its unquantafiable , undefineable , unmeasureable etc. . Reality is one or the other infinite or nothing . Ie. Existence is entirely subjective anythings possible.
If everything is divided by good and bad,then our Will's and our future were predestined from the very start, we've never decided anything. Good and bad decided for us.
I'm a fan of animation and illustration in your videos! This particular one is just perfect. LOVE it!
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May be we can't decide our attitude as many are saying that might be predetermined but I think if we learn to think and imagine the probabilities that can happen by our actions then we can somehow create our future. It's just like chess game where you imagine future probabilities and move accordingly (consciously) and not randomly just to timepass.
We aren’t entirely free. However, accepting the degree of un-freedom in our lives can ameliorate much of the stress in our lives as it relinquishes us from the anxiety over the things we have no power over. Allowing greater freedom in how we relate to those things we don’t have power, rather than the focusing on anxiety about not having power over them. Thus in many circumstances we could create more freedom but it is not the freedom that is necessarily satisfying to our egos.
Legend has it was predestined for you to make this video, while it was of my free will to write this stupid comment.
Nope, this video appeared in your youtube account. It caught your eye, and you were compelled to click on it.
Then you, being stupid, wrote your comment. No free will at all.
@@ThriftyCHNR - How did you know that he did not chose to click ?
StupidityKiller - Nobody just has thoughts with no strings attached to them my dude that not how the brain works. People have always believed in some spirit or soul that guides our actions but it’s been proven time and time again to be nothing but something invented by the mind to cope.
Six minutes of my life that nobody will ever give me back.
Are we really free to choose how we react to things happening we cannot control?
You are designed to react with a choice... If only there was a HUD.
So basically it's situational? Sometimes no matter what you do or don't do things the effects are out of your hands and other times your choices can effect the outcome of things. As far as defeatist vs. Aspiration isn't I think those outlooks are situational as well. My question is is a choice really a choice at all.
I believe that one should have a balanced understanding and acceptance of both free will and predetermination. Do all in your power to make things happen for yourself while still accepting things won't every single time, go as you wish or expect.
Exactly my idea as well!
As much as humans seem to hate admitting it we are still animals and a lot of what we do is still driven by instinct.
Pseudo free will inside a deterministic structure
1:45 defeatists claim that the reason for their failure is outside themselves?
I am a defeatist who knows it’s all my fault. The reason I will always fail is because I am an inadequate agent in every capacity. If I do something it will fail. That’s my fault.
I think Daniel Dennett makes a good argument in this matter. He objects against Free Will and Determinism being opposing forces. He makes the argument that it's irrelevant as the true measure of degrees of freedom we have in making a decision lie in our reaction to a given set of slightly different circumstances around the decision at hand. The bigger we personally can make this space he calls "competence" the more "free" we are (ua-cam.com/video/5cSgVgrC-6Y/v-deo.html).
Sorry for not watching the video, but isn't that just another way of saying 'free will' as it is commonly thought of does not exist?
Yes, precisely. I am not contradicting that notion I was trying to give it further nourishment …
The core of the debate is whether everything has an explanation, or if there is a fundamental lack of explanation.
While, in my opinion, determinism is true, in other words, everything has an explanation, our frontal lobe, which itself is predetermined, is the determinant of most of our life's outcomes.
Rather than naively believing in the notion of free will, I think it's better to acknowledge our predetermined reality which includes our frontal lobe, which we experience as "will". A change in "will" is merely the frontal lobe causing a predetermined change within itself.
With this perspective, "willpower" isn't pointless, as it definitely yields results, but the "willpower" itself was predetermined.
So all we can do is attempt to exercise "willpower" and hope we are a frontal lobe with the genes and experiences that will result in behavior that will accomplish our goals.
Why cannot something be explained and still have free will ?
For example, there can physical properties that are natively undetermined and highly chaotic - minor causes can have huge effect -, in that case, you can explain that physical properties by studying them, but you cannot predict their future state due to their natural property of undetermination.
Something like the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle when you can know all the brain - consciousness - and it's features but cannot predict it's future state precisely.
Such thought-provoking videos! I love this channel. It helps me to understand reality and myself in a much better way! Thank you!😄🙌🙏
Like other people have already pointed out, *The School of Life* seem to believe that determinism is just a matter of how much power we have in determining our fate.
It's not. It's much deeper than that.
Think of it like driving a car. The issue is not whether the road forces us to follow a certain path, or whether the wheel is too stiff or the engine too weak.
The issue is that we are not the one driving the car. We _feel_ like we are driving it, but are on the back seat.
It's neither a good nor a bad thing, and there is nothing we should do about it, it's just an interesting fact to keep at the back of our minds. We are and always will be the product of our influences, and nothing else.
It doesn't matter if free will or determinism is real because we still have to live our lives.
The unexamined life is not worth living
We have no free will. Period. The free will we think we have is entirely subjective. But we are, essentially, puppets. There is so such thing as "change", either. There is only the emergence of reality.
I like the sound effects
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Hello vsauce, michel here
This may be the wine speaking, but here goes.
Let say you made a decision at a point in time, say to get another job. I believe it would be fair to say that if you could theoretically find yourself in exactly the same circumstances over an over, you would always make the same decision. If you would sometimes decide yes, other times no, it would introduce a randomness which is contrary to the freedom we like to feel.
Now the second theoretical question is whether somebody else, who had the exact same history as you, second by second, from inception to that specific point in time, would have made the same decision. If you recon yes, then three cheers for determinism. If you think not, then consider what would have made the other person decide differently, and whether it was anything that you had conscious control over.
Yes. of course, everything is predetermined. If you could understand the behaviour of every quark and the behaviour of what they are made of, you will be able to tell what the atom will do. If you know what every atom in the universe will do, you can map out the entire existence of everything. Nothing in life is truly random if you know what it will do.
N0ught Of course not, the world physically speaking obeys the laws of Cience which are, as we all know, deterministic, but we can’t apply the same principle for human beings, because there is not a single mind in this whole planet that can believe they haven’t got truly and inherently free will themselves. It’s possible to believe that someone else is determined but no one can prove they are determined themselves. After you read my comment you are given the choice of either replying or ignoring it and while deliberating wheter or not to reply you are using your capacity of free will that cannot be predicted by the behaviour of subatomic particles that obey especific quantom physics laws that cannot be 100% rightfully proven like all science ( only logic can be 100% proven since it’s based on rational thinking and not in empiric observation that may be wrong due to the incertainty of human beings). Besides, randomness exists because probability exists, it’s just to hard to conceptualise and imagine it, like a new colour or the concept of time, If you are given a choice between A, B and C you think the one you picked was already determined and you didnt have other choice but there is and you deliberated to choose for eg A on purpose but u could still choose the other 2, it was possible but it just didnt happen, in other words, you cannot prove that it was certain you were going to chose A but its also impossible to prove you could choose the others. With all this said, I believe in compatibilism
I think that predestination is greater than free will but doesn't mean that we don't have a choice to chose our own reaction towards out of control situation!
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I've been saying this for so long...people who always say "Everything happens for a reason!" are the ones with lifelong patterns of poor decision-making. If everything is up to fate, they have no power to influence their own lives, and thus have no reason to behave sensibly or have any kind of foresight.
TLDR...you're confusing me for someone who's going to read your comment.
@@malvavisco10 lol have you ever read a book? Not even that long. Literally 4 sentences. Yours is almost just as long.
I think we have free will to make choices, but i think the choices we make are predetermined.
Some of this reminds me of discussions I had during recovery (which is not necessarily to say, "the tenants of AA taught me this," but more, "while in an AA meeting I had this discussion with others.) It's atleast worthy of examination, especially (in my opinion) when discussing the concept of "am I in control of my own happiness (fulfilledness, contentedness, etc)?"
Could you make a video about Hannah Arendt, pleaseeee? 🤗
i think free will vs determinisn can be linked to what each of us think about himself. If I am the sum of my past experience, every future actions will be the result of a very complex equation. If otherwise i'm more than that, i'm "responsible" for my actions. People should take the best from both, swaying in storms without fighting like a blade of grass and be proud and firm like a big tree is sunny days
This was AMAZING! The illustration and animation was wonderful!
But if you think everything is predetermined someone strip themselves of liability and accountability and may therefore perform horrible acts as they felt it is predetermined by not binding themselves to any moral obligations.
At the flip side it can empower someone to do great things cause they feel it is their mission in life.
In my opinion it pushes people to their extremes as they are less likely think of consequences since consequences are just part of the predetermined future.