Tyrion FINAL and BEST speech | Game of Throne S.8 E.6
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- Tyrion FINAL and BEST speech leading to Bran Stark being proclaimed King of the Six Kingdoms. Not the Seven Kingdoms as the North became an independent Kingdom.
Game of Throne
Creators: David Benioff, D.B. Weiss
Stars: Emilia Clarke, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harington
Original network: HBO
Distributor: Warner Bros. Television Distribution
Peter Dinklage - An American film, television and stage actor. He received international recognition for portraying Tyrion Lannister on the HBO television series Game of Thrones, for which he won the Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series a record of four times. - Фільми й анімація
The "best" speech that no one mentions, because the best speech was "I wish I was the monster you think I am. I wish I had enough poison for the whole pack of you."
FACTS!
Tbh i feel the same for half of the main characters. Watch them either burn or butchered by the dead.
But this speech was symbolic. A meta commentary on those who control the stories.
Exactly
Or an even better speech “I begged my uncle for one of you, it wouldn’t even have to be a big dragon, it could be little, like me”
Tyrion: "Who has a better story than Bran the broken"
Every person in Westeros: "Who the fuck is Bran the broken"
Hot Pie has a better story than Bran.
"What the fuck is a three-eyed-raven?"
Seriously, at what point did Bran's ability to take over other people's bodies against their will become common knowledge, and why aren't the people absolutely terrified of the implications?
The people would say the same about "who's sansa????" Arya wasn't the one that wanted it so she doesn't care if no one knows her story Jon couldn't do it obviously even if Gray worm accepted it & what would Jon be the queen slayer? There's some humor double meaning in that name but still nor could anyone else at the gathering. Tyrion couldn't especially after what his family done to Kings landing let alone the rest of the kingdoms & not to mention the size issue plus he never wanted it. Only one who wanted it was sansa & again what's her story? daughter to a traitor married a predator evil king suspected of killing him then married to bolton then bealish? Who would marry her after her record with husbands & marriages & sold around. I'm not sure many would want sansa imagine the civilians rumors & tales of her if she were. The tales wouldn't likely being sleeping with her brothers obviously, but they wouldn't be kind I'm sure. Look at any politician there's always unkind things said about them even heroic & popular ones like Abraham Lincoln or Eisenhower or Reagan or Roosevelt or JFK. Also lastly even if Arya wanted it Bran's a boy in those times in the story & in the real life middle ages boys mattered more especially to powerful families & sadly still do. Personally, I think should she's better as the explorer & adventurer the tough woman though I was never a bran fan for anything. I thought character played out long earlier in the series but I didn't create the universe of Westeros nor did anyone here. Not how there's a spin off prequel for Targaryen but none for starks or anyone else. In Islam & the middle east even Asia though males stand first to women many African tribes as well unless the woman is married mother too or some how related to a great warrior/leader. No one at that gathering had enough story or history to be a leader the people knew & heard of. There was no hero there no rescuer of the people. So "who's bran" would be the case for everyone there. I have nothing against Sansa but again her story would be to problematic at best if not in line with Cersei so she's lucky if people didn't know her. She gets her lil kingdom where her family has already been know for being decent & where she's shown leadership & helped rescue to some degree a variety of times since the battle of the bastards but the other 6 kingdom's let alone Kings landing would be a problem at best for her.
@@KneelB4Baconand the girls from brothels
@@roystonlodgeexactly because they common and simple imbeciles much like perkins
"I will not give my life for Joffrey's murder, and I know I'll get no justice here. So I will let the gods decide my fate.... I DEMAND A TRIAL BY COMBAT" ♥️
The speech he gives during his trial in kings landing is hands down his best. Can't even compare.
Who is Jeffrey?
@@bewmdogg - Didnt notice. Stupid autocorrect. If you've watched the show though you'd know I meant Joffrey.
Yea that scene and the one a couple episodes later when Tyrion is in the dungeon, Jaime comes to visit him, and Tyrion recounts his obsession with their mentally disabled cousin who smashed the beetles are his best of many good moments. He's an excellent monologuist.
That wasn't really a speech. That scene was epic because of the context without the context it wouldn't have been the same.
It was a spirited defense, but it was all for him. How could his greatest speech be nothing more than an attempt to save his own life by letting someone else fight (and as it turned out die) for him? He began his story as a deeply self-centered if likable person. He ended as so much more.
THIS. This was Tyrion reaching his full potential as a man. Standing taller than all of them. Taking all he'd learned, from his triumphs and his mistakes, and making a country over again, with the power of his voice, of his arguments.
It's magnificent.
Greyworm went from “you are not here to speak!!!” To letting him pick a new King
“Why do you think I came all this way” this line will never be forgotten, the most hilarious line in the show
You missed all
Implying that he orchestrated the whole thing lol. I burst out laughing when I saw this, same with “you were right where you were suppose to be” to Jon lol. I’m just like wait a minute is this mf the villain…but no you can’t give the writers credit 😂😂
same, I laughed so hard with his line
I interpreted that line as if to say ”While I didn't expect to be king I did come here to lend my abilities in the effort to establish peace and restore order. So if that's how best I can help - coolsies!"
Doesn’t he say moments later “I didn’t want the throne”
Literally everyone has a better story than Bran.
He is chosen because he is keeper of stories. He has all the secrets that can bring any challenging house to ground.
Jon snow, Arya stark, Podrick Payne, Tyrion Lannister, Brienne of Tarth, Grey Worm... Should I go on?
except in season 8
@@kaberigomes2117 his entire character was him saying he didnt want anything- so wtf. They made his character only to invert it in the end.
@@beksinski nope, everyone sucked in 8 lol
Littlefinger crying from hell. He believed chaos is a ladder, but he underestimated the power of a cripple kid with cheatcodes
Tyrion: “If we choose you, will you wear the crown?….”
Bran: *Shit, I was worging into someone from the future. Quick, say something smart* “Why do you think I came all this way?”
I also saw that coming
Sansa pulled a fast one, bet everyone else was thinking.. well I want to be an INDEPENDANT kingdom toooo!! , too late
While Yara sits with her thumb up her ass, even though she was the only one to ever formally request independence from Daenerys... the finale was such a fail, I hate that I've been forced to think about it.
I hope the "Snow" show retcons most of S8, if not all of it. Say it was a fever dragon dream of Dany's, showing her a possible future.
Yes what Sansa did was stupid
"He crossed beyond the wall, a crippled boy"
So? He had a giant man pulling him, 2 others finding food and telling him where to go.
Lmao yeah exactly, the _only_ thing he accomplished single-handedly was climbing the tower that Jamie and Cersei were hiding in; once he was constrained to a wheelchair his path was simply dictated to him. His story was finally getting interesting with the Three Eyed Raven, then he disappeared for a season and when they brought him back it was clear that they had no idea what to do with him! It was all rather pathetic, really.
Bran is barely human at this point….
Tyrion “we need to increase the food supplies in Kings Landing”
Bran looking into the distance “The people are as hungry as they need to be”
I love how everyone's reaction to Tyrion's speech is not even acting - they each are literally expressing "WTF" in their face lol
It's actually Tyrion's worst speech in the entire show.
You're right that it is his final one, though.
I'll take "I once took a jackass and a honeycomb into a brothel" over this, and that's even with never knowing the punchline
@@AgnotologyTV This is almost certainly the punchline, sorry I had missed this:
Tyrion walks into a brothel with a honeycomb and a jackass.
Madame: What can we do for you?
Tyrion: I need a woman to lay with, for mine has left me.
Madame: Whatever for? And what's with the honeycomb and the mule?
Tyrion: My woman found a genie in a bottle, and he granted her three wishes. The first was for a house fit for a queen, so he gave her this damn honeycomb. The second wish was that she have the nicest ass in all the land, so he gave her this damn donkey...
Madame: And what about the third wish?
Tyrion: Well... she asked the genie to make my cock hang down past my knee.
Madame: Well that one's not so bad eh?
Tyrion: Not so bad!? I used to be six foot three!
well at least the counsel of surviving characters were there to hear it.
Yeah this was terrible
The cover up his failures as the Hand of the Queen. So, Bran accepted Tyrion to put some lesson on him. He has magic anyway
Bran knows where all the bodies are buried, knows everyone's secrets, if not made King now he has the leverage to force any other claimant to back down or risk their secrets be exposed.
There's a flip side to that coin....being the "secret keeper" of everything, also paints a HUGE target on his back to be assassinated. If he's not alive then he can't spill the beans on anyone.
He also has literally zero loyal soldiers, with the possible exception of the Gold Cloaks and his Kingsguard.
The King's ancestral seat isn't even controlled by him, and is literally controlled by another independent nation.
It's not as if Joffrey's "Royal Army" idea ever went into practice...
Perhaps the only decision worse in the entire run of the show was Daenerys elevating Gendry, the only remaining relative of the last undisputed King of the Seven Kingdoms. Her and Tyrion spoke of her cleverness, even though she was legitimizing the only person in the world who would have a strong claim to the Iron Throne besides her and Jon (if people know and can confirm his birthright.)
@@alicantino1151 True, he will need the best security or he'll go nuts as the 3 eyed raven trying to detect his enemies.
@@jasonjackson1708 When the everloving hell was Robert Baratheon's kingship "undisputed"? Half the population called him the Usurper when they were sure the Spider couldn't hear them, for crying out loud. The Baratheons didn't have a clear right to the Iron Throne, they were only the nearest claimants when everyone thought the Targaryen line was finished. Ned was smart, hiding Jon/Aegon from him.
@@urthboundmisfit You realize Robert was King for 17 years, right? He won the Throne by right of conquest, and there was ONE small rebeliion during his entire reign.
They might have called him Usurper, but it doesn't mean that he wasn't the undisputed King. It's why there was no succession crisis when he took the Throne. Every House in the Kingdom bent the knee to Robert.
They even had Dorne onside. Not one House ever disputed Robert as King. Even the rebellion that took place was because Balon wanted to be King of the Iron Islands, and it wouldn't have mattered who sat the Iron Throne when it happened. It had nothing to do with Robert or the Targaryens, and everything to do with them losing their Kingship during the Targaryen conquest.
So while people definitely called Robert a usurper when no one could hear, there was still not a single House that disputed him as King.
Okay this season was hopeless but you have to admit Davros was the best part of this scene.
“Not sure I get a vote but… aye.”
LOVED his character!
Tyrion is a great character and was masterfully portrayed by Peter Dinklage, just about everything he said was epic.
Peter Dinklage without a doubt is the greatest actor on this entire series from start to finish he won an Emmy every year say what you want about season 8 he was still good.
his character became stupid and was ruined. He's a good actor but comparing previous seasons to season 8 and you see how garbage it is.
Tywin's actor for me
@@yeahbee8237 I thought the same. However TNH...987 qualified his statement with "from start to finsh". Except for the surviving Starks and Jon Snow, Tyrion is in every episode.
Tyrion as hand of the King was his best speech where Tywin acknowledge his wisdom.
Tyrion's speech here is like when you bullshit a presentation but you do such a good job acting that the teacher and all your classmates just go along with it, including the janitor who pops in (Davos), except for the one kid who's smart enough to see through all the BS (Sansa).
I have literally done this in high school once. Was meant to work on a presentation that we were told about a month in advance. 2 days before the project is due, I realize I ain't done shit yet. So I scour the internet, print out a few articles and pictures, add some of my own notes. 2 hours of work later, I have a presentation for which my only hope was to pray it was good enough to get me a passing grade.
Teacher asks me to present it to the class and after 10 minutes of masterful bullshitting, she goes through my notes and asks me how long it took to put this together. I lied my ass off and said I'd been working on it for about 2 weeks. She looks hella impressed and gives me 87% on it. She was the only one fooled, though. Everyone else in the class knew I hadn't done shit and then just quickly cobbled something together last minute. Still got a much better grade than I deserved though. Got lucky that this teacher was still oldschool and didn't know the power and ease of the internet yet (it was quite a few years ago, right before the time everyone could easily pull up the internet on their phones).
Good take 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe next time you'd have more time to study if you avoid watching adult shows.
Completely agree…
This. And everyone else starts slow-clapping and cheering as if the presenter did an incredible job, while you're looking on with a "WTF" look on your face.
This scene also showed Sansa for exactly what she was. She didn’t reject Bran due to the sacrifices Northmen had made, she rejected not being in charge. The same as when Jon left to work with Dany, and she sought to take over his position…
Sansa was always a silly little girl, then grew up to be a silly woman
@@DarkRoomAmbience woman ☕
season 8 would have gone down a little better if Danerys would have flown to Winterfell in secret the night before she burned Kings landing and had Drogon BBQ Sansa for her undermining and conniving ways. the people just got rid of Cerci to have Cerci 2.0 placed in charge of them.
Yea…she was a horrible character and a terrible sister to her family. The one person I wanted to die lived😂😂😂
I've hated Sansa from day one. She's always been a useless, coddled, pathetic, unbelievably self-entitled, ignorant and obnoxious little c*nt.
Of all the deaths in this story hers is the one I wanted the most. Had she died in the first episode her family likely wouldn't have been decimated.
She's only ever been stubborn and "brave" when there were no consequences, no one to really challenge her. Any time anyone had ANYTHING to hold over her head she was a useless, cowardly, timid twat that did whatever she was told.
She was truly the worst, most selfish, horrible, evil, disgusting character in the entire GoT universe.
So Tyrion gets Varys killed by telling Danerys what the latter was planning. Then he persuades Jon to kill Danerys and Jon gets banished to beyond the wall. In this speech he talked his way becoming Hand of the King. Tyrion knows how to play the Games of Thrones.
So true! Coz he read all the books and was intelligent among the group!
He knows that being King has its own set of problems, and so he played smart and kept himself out of throne
Isn't it well known that Tyrion is the true winner of the game?
@@4amcripple he won the game of thrones by avoiding its feel on his ass
He is more like his father than i thought
Bran is a good choice. He knows all the follies of the past and won't repeat them.
I don’t understand how Sansa is so respected. What did she really do? She was a spoiled teenage girl. Lady Mormant was awesome.
L
She also stole the throne of the North from Jon, allowing the King in the North to be exiled so she could rule.
Bad writing. She kept the Vale army a secret from Jon for no reason, Jon could have reassessed their strategy to take Winterfell had she told him, and Rickon would not have been killed. Of course the show runners didn't care about Rickon, the characters all act like he never existed the second he's killed off, Arya doesn't even know he's dead when she returns but doesn't bother to ask about him.
Who is Rickon? lol 🤣
@@xanthelinhs2143Actually Sansa tried to persuade Jon to wait for reinforcements from the Vale, and he refused.
“Guys we don’t have an iron chair …..so who do we need a guy with a chairrr”
“That’s deep”
“You guys believed it ?”
Danny: Dracarys..!
GOT S8 Writers: up in🔥🔥🔥
The reason why Bran being chosen is just ludicrous… the person with the best story 😂
I think it's because he holds all the stories in a way. He's like a walking ...erm ...mobile library of sorts, and carries the lessons and wisdom of those stories. I think most people would agree that John would've been awesome, but "the wheel", as Tyrion put it, would've likely kept spinning unless he lost his balls - which we would've hated even more than this.
like the politicians this days 😂
What he really meant is that Bran literally knows EVERYONE’S story, not that he lived the better story.
Bran the boring…🥱
The whole season was ludicrous.
Put a laughing track in this and it all makes sense. This whole scene is literally a comedy scene
The person with the best story? He broke his back and did nothing, what an epic story 😂😂😂😂
He knows everyone’s story, that’s what he really meant, not that he actually lived the better story.
Bran the boring…🥱
he knows everyone's dirt. who to better keep check of the realms than someone who already knows your dirty secrets. not to mention, if not made king, he would have been up for assassinations' for just knowing too damn much. It's definitely not the best choice for king but it is the most neutral one.
He figured out Jon's story. That was pretty important. He also distracted the Night King long enough that Arya could attack him.
@@urthboundmisfit Sam was the one who told him of his lineage and Jon was the one who rallied everyone against the night king and Irya went through her trials without his help she did it all on her own; if anything he would have been dead if not for Jon; the guy did nothing; irya was the one who killed the night king and could have done it without Brandon’s help; him becoming king literally turned the fans on the show there’s now way that was a good decision
Peter Dinklage was, obviously just my opinion, the best actor in the show. Even if this speech made no sense, almost everyone had a better story than Bran, Dinklage still made it seem compelling. Like many people Seasons 7 and 8 were my least favorite, and the writing for Dinklage continued to get worse each episode, but his performances never degraded. Kudos to him for his professionalism and skill.
This speech did make sense because it's meta commentary. But also Bran is the best choice, since he holds all of the knowledge. He's like their version of AI.
Him, Liam Cunningham and Charles Dance for sure.
Fun Fact, the older guy sitting to Samwell Tarley’s left is Howland Reed. Ned Stark’s best friend and Meera and Jojen’s father. He is the one who killed Ser Arthur Dayne.
Did anyone upon hearing "Why do you think I came all this way" respond like I did, "WHAT the FUCK, Bran??" You orchestrated this entire thing? You knew it was going to happen and did nothing?? All those people dead, multiple people betrayed, so much misery that could have been avoided, all so that you could become king of a place you've never known, in a seat of power you've never been to?? If I'd been there it would have been instant hands.
Yeah, i'll bet you'd say the same thing to Doctor Strange.
This ending, full of misery and death, may have been the least cruel and the most good.
I like how Sansa hept her fathers true legacy by not bending the knee
Yes, Sansa truely speak on beahalf of the North, but she doesnt fit to rule the North.
The best part of his story is when he said, "It's Worgin' Time" and worged all over the place
By allowing Sansa to separate the north from the seven kingdoms he has set a precedent where all of the other lords are going to start pulling that shit.
There’s no happy ending here.
It makes no sense at all that the Iron Islands would ever agree to that when they've never considered themselves part of the continent in the first place. Honestly stupid writing. Let alone whoever rules Dorne they will never accept it although i think they had a representative there who did... absolute stupidity. As Tywin would say "Madness and stupidity"
nah, just ones he is related to.
thought the same when the ep aired... every ruler there could have withdrawn his/her vote and say the same independent thing
one could argue how indepedent that kingdom is seen the fact he has claim on it too if Sansa dies... its sketchy, probably it get slolowed by the rest, also, the fact they all get to choose, is it unanimous ? is it a constitution or a treaty ? do the other kingdoms keep there sovreignty ? what was the construction to begin with ? Was it a federation, confederation or more like a feudal state .... cant really jude if dont have all of the info really
1. Maybe that would be for the best if the kingdoms were all independent governing bodies. Ever think of that?
2. If one region is more culturally different than the rest of the crown’s culture it makes TOTAL sense that they separate and support themselves. The other kingdoms may have more to gain from uniting together than apart. Otherwise the iron islanders may be staying on a pescatarian diet.
3. Bran is a Deus Ex Machina, his powers lead to world peace.
This was Tyrion's ultimate purpose. After all he had seen, all he had done, all he had been through, he was the perfect one for this. The underling hero, this is where his gift found it's purpose.
When he said who has a better story than bran the broken, I actually screamed “EVERYONE!!!!” full Wendy Williams style.
I know right... like he literally disappeared for a season and few people cared lol
Bruh he said that bran knew everybody’s story so he had the wisdom to rule by learning from everybody’s past mistake, not that his story is the best
Wendy O. Williams.
You got it wrong, bro. It wasn't about that.
I agree. A great and sensible ending.
I think as the three eyed raven he saw that he would eventually be king. And I think he makes the decisions like making Jon Snow part of the nights watch again, because he knows what’s going to be needed for the future.
Halfway through the show, I was excited to see Bran's mystical powers developing in future seasons. The ending of (I think it was) season 4 was highly suggestive that he was about to start cultivating some crazy powers that no one else in the realm had, like casting spells, throwing fireballs or who knows what.
But then, instead of further cultivating his character arc, they basically abandoned him and he did nothing of any significance for the remaining four seasons until suddenly he was declared King and the winner of "the Game" randomly at the very end.
Personally, I didn't dislike the last season as much as a lot of other people did. It could have been better, but I thought it was at least decent. However, I do agree with the general consensus that the final episode was terrible. They had developed Bran so little that it was clear the writers were more concerned with completing the story in a way that no one could have predicted than completing it in a way that was remotely satisfying for the audience.
Martin is going to end it the exact same way in the book series. The whole thing is a series of shaggy dogs and misdirections. If you can’t appreciate that, idk what to tell you.
You EXPECT Ned Stark to get out of his execution. He doesn’t.
You EXPECT Robb Stark to win the war for the North. Instead he gets betrayed by his own allies.
You EXPECT Dany to be a wholly benevolent leader. Unfortunately human beings are more complex when you bring power struggles into it.
You EXPECT Jon Snow to become king because he’s this long-lost royal prince. Nope, we can’t have that, it just perpetuates this archaic idea of noble blood and succession.
You EXPECT Bran to be the key to defeating the white walkers. He’s not. He’s the key to usurping corrupt politicians and creating world peace.
The writing technique is brilliant because it was decided that’s how it was going to go right from the very start- “how can I turn the fantasy trope upside down? I’ll have a young boy/chosen one who gets powers. But instead of fighting monsters, he’ll solve the actual problems of society and do the impossible- create world peace.
And we still never saw it coming.
If we got the ACTUAL fantasy tropes that we wanted, it would be terrible writing. There would be nothing unique about Game of Thrones except for its world building.
@@jmeds94 Ah, so we EXPECT it would be a story with a good end/ It wasn't.
@@ianover6838 Depends on your definition of good. You’ve gotta ask what the purpose of the story is.
If you, like a good number of people, think the purpose of fiction is escapism and catered entertainment, then no. You’ll be left dissatisfied and pissed off because it didn’t entertain you in the way that you wanted it to. As a matter of fact it bitch slapped you for even presuming that this was somehow all about you.
If you think that stories are works of art that shed light on an objective truth about people and how they interact with each other and what motivates them… you might find yourself caring about the characters and these sad journeys they’ve been through and shake your head about war being hell. You might feel some closure knowing that the imaginary peasants of Westeros (who only exist in the subtext and you won’t ever see) actually don’t have to put up with the same BS rule of birthright monarchs starving them to death every 10-20 years.
@@jmeds94 I'm glad there are more and more people who truly understand and appreciate what the show was about. Little by little, the ending of GOT will undoubtedly win a reappraisal in the public consciousness.
Bran could have been so much more, used his power to defeat the Night King, but instead we got this...
The only good thing left in this shitty season is Ramin's music.
Bran story was the start of everything the war the lost the tragedy I get what he’s saying it make sense plus he knows it all the past the future
Can someone please explain why no one asked Bran why he didn’t give them a heads up about the chaos and thousands of deaths he KNEW was going to happen? Also, in what world does it make sense that Jon Snow is not even mentioned as a candidate to be king, but bratty Sansa and useless Bran are suddenly leaders?
1) Because Dany was still alive and would have fried his ass if he had tried to warn anyone about her.
2) He is not mentioned because he is a hostage and was lucky enough to exit the cells of KL with JUST his freedom and titles lost.
They explained it in a really shitty way, but I don't think the Three-Eyed Raven can see the future, they just see the entirety of the past. That can give them accurate predictions of the future if they're smart enough to put the pieces together, but they're not actually _seeing_ it
If this was the best speech then Geoffrey was the best king
I have deserved the crown more than Bran as a watching the GOT all 8 seasons.
Ser Davos asking if he gets a vote makes cry.
Tyrion's best speech? Is this a joke?
That's the reason we all love Tyrion he is the ❤️ of all this ❤️❤️❤️
"Let's create another civil war after this guy dies because he will have no heir" "Let's create absolute chaos every time the king dies where everyone vies for the crown"
Peter Dinklage…. wow, just WOW ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Everyone said ‘Hi’ she said ‘Bye’.
So a prisoner who killed the Queen gets to chose who is king? Ridiculous.
LOL Tyrion speaking as if he actually had a real saying on who should lead the seven kingdoms.
As you see...he did.LOL
That's the power of bullshitting. The magic lies in waiting for the right moment, the moment when everybody subconsciously wishes that there is somebody who tells them what to do.
Grey Worm: YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK
Tyrion: Elects a new king by talking uninterrupted
Ned Stark rolls over in his grave and mutters to himself, we, my head was not lost for nothing in the end, from beneath me came the rulers of the seven kingdoms
In the words of Kahless. "Great men do not seek power. They have power trust upon them."
He agrees to become king because he doesn't want or need to be king. He will be a good king because he does not seek power and he will fulfill this task with the greatest possible care, and with the hope that another will come and relieve him of this burden. This is what Tyrion explains.
That's terrible, though. What actual motivation does he have to fulfill his task of serving the realm? Would of been much more useful as counsel for any ruler, not as a ruler himself.
But then again the entirety of S8 is terrible, so yeah.
@@blame7121 Why should Bran be a councilor and not a ruler? For the entire show wise and smart people were shushed into the background so power-hungry hotheads could take center stage. The fact people are so viscerally against someone like Bran being king just shows how much disdain people have for those who are smart and knowledgeable.
@@SerbAtheist idk, man. Why not have a HUMAN rule, instead of an allseeing, apathetic deity? Someone that actually cares about their people, instead of a thousand year old body-snatcher that's just there? Oh, but people like stories and the hermit has all the stories in the world so he should rule, absolutely. Woooo...
Genius writing. Now piss off.
@@blame7121 Who says Bran is no longer a human being? Was the previous 3ER an 'apathetic deity'? No he wasn't. So why would Bran be? He pretended to be to fly under the radar and be safe from psycho dragon lady. That's why he sent off Meera. She was the only one who could out him, who knew what the previous 3ER was like.
He is unattached so he will make cold decisions. How much carnage have people done "for the better good"? He's the type to set fire to Kings landing or people not for murder hatred despair revenge but to control a population spike. Yeah great king.
Bran being king would be a believe GRRM intended ending, He may have just given Benioff and Weiss cliffnotes for a conclusion, a lot of the problems for season 8 is really the execution, they rushed the "long" night, dany being mad queen, and Jon's feeling being king. When he returned to being a crow by the end it really was a poetic end where he ended up like Maester Aemon, Has claim to the iron throne but no one knows about it. Benioff and Weiss direction for all of this, turned it into an underwhelming mess that it is.
Absolutely, this deserves more upvotes. The plot points are amazing, we just needed more screen time to flesh it all out.
But I do prefer this to a heavily manipulated plot with no poetry.
@jmeds94 thanks mang I still stood by what I said. This was really just for the purpose of crediting GRRM. The reception of the show mightve turned him down but all it really needs is a proper execution and Im sure people would react positively given the chance.
@@xestalfer5774 Nah, I doubt it. I think that’s why he’s lost his writing motivation. He knows people who love his characters aren’t going to like what he does to them (Dany and Jon). People read fantasy as an escape from reality and George’s story reminds them that there is no fairytale in the world of politics and power struggles. Monarchs are dictators and knights aren’t noble. People are going to instinctively disavow it if they don’t get what they want.
Even I have to admit that I wanted Jon to be king, but eventually I came around to being ok with not getting what I want if it benefits the small-folk. Because yeah, royal succession would be an L for Westeros going forward.
It really shouldn’t bother him if people hate it though, because it’s a great commentary. A Shakespearean tragedy that says a lot about the way humans interpret power.
@breadandcircuses8127 It tackles a great number of things. It’s definitely anti-war and it stresses the importance of leaders taking seriously the people they are responsible for. Love being the death of duty. The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Different storylines take different themes. Arya’s is clearly about choosing mercy over vengeance before it ruins you. Ultimately, I think it’s about how people are complex and it uses bad people to dare you into reversion. To go back to viewing them as simple despite your claims that you are virtuous enough to tell the difference. Then you become just as guilty as the other characters that have prejudice. We can’t escape our biases, but we should fight them all the same. If you are in a position of power, do you handle this? If you don’t fight your bias, how can you be fit to lead? It’s a challenge to broaden your worldview and not villainize people, even if you hate them. Compassion for humanity by taking responsibility for the darkness in you.
“There is a savage beast in every man. And when you give him a sword or spear and send him off to war, that beast begins to stir.” - GRRM
George Martins....thanks for making Tyrion ooooo....I admire him
If only Season 8 had a good story.
„Sometimes doing nothing is the hardest thing to do. And who has done less then Bran the usless.”
If you put a laugh track over this it could easily be mistaken for a comedy sketch.
Bran totally was the mastermind behind everything, maybe his future self interracted in the past to make things go the way they went, so he could seize power. Sansa is a usurper, Jon is the real King in the North, and she just took the title and let Jon, a KING, be bannished to the North. The end of the story is just so bad :(
Maybe the Jon Snow spin-off will fix some things
@@elpublicador It's going to be very hard. Any thinking person realizes that Bran did so many evil things to take power over Westeros.
It's no longer publicly available, but I had written 4k words before the finale talking about how Bran was, without question, the pawn of the Children of the Forest.
@@patrickwhite8576 False. I was sad to see breaking bad end but most people agree that show had a perfect ending. The end of GOT was rushed and fucked up beyond repair, it's just hard for people that loved the show to face that fact.
@@jasonjackson1708 always thought he was no longer the ‘Bran’ we knew once he entered the tree then was taken over by the sorcerer (3 eyed raven) embedded there. He took over Bran, and as the now Bran even declared he was no longer Bran. He could see the future, there were times he said he couldn’t (wouldn’t) interfere or it may change. And as we see it built to him, the one person that would never have been King, being declared so, and letting his sister, above Jon Snow even, take the north as their Queen. And everyone accepted Jon banished to the Confines above the wall. The only straight honest person among those that ranked, and the True King.
@@queenbabylonia4594 yeah, it's 100% the main reason I think he's the pawn of the Children.
It's obvious he can see at least portions of the future (since he knew he'd be picked as King, and "came all this way") which means he knew Daenerys was going to kill at least 500,000 people, and also knew his brother (cousin) would have to kill her and would suffer endlessly for it, and he did nothing to stop it, but rather he encouraged all of it.
The only thing that really doesn't make sense would be that Bloodraven would allow House Targaryen to be destroyed after it had survived AND had a great male heir to rebuild the line... since Bran being King won't last, especially since he doesn't even have soldiers from his ancestral seat as they belong to Sansa.
I figure Bronn would be King within two years as it stands...
(EDIT: It definitely stands to reason that the Children would want revenge on men, so it definitely works no matter the side plots.)
Ppl being mad that the guy w omniscient wisdom and essentially super powers being made king is silly. Bro was a super hero w the warg stuff. Whom else
Imagine giving one of [if not THE BEST] speech in TV History -- the "I demand a Trial By Combat" Speech-- only to be forced to deliver... this...
Peter Dinklage, D&D did you wrong, among many.
She always wanted to be a queen...this was as much about her ambition for power as it was for the North people.
She wanted to be Joffrey's queen, which would have given her exactly zero power. Can a woman take responsibility for anything ever without all the small weenuses coming out with knives after her in the comments?
@@urthboundmisfit I don't think she had a choice in becoming Joffrey"s queen
After GoT Credits:
*During Queen Sansa’s Rule a Winter came in that lasted more than a day. Having much of their food stocks depleted Queen Sansa Had no other recourse than to request aid from HighGarden. Lord Bronn who learned about the concept of a loans and debts from Tyrion Lannister in Season 2 made sure to keep tabs on his interests in the North. It soon became apparent to the Lords of the North that Queen Sansa would not be able to pay her debts to HighGarden. Not long After Lord Bronn of HighGarden requested King Cripple to send emissaries to Winterfell demanding immediate payment of all debts to the Warden of The South or Kneel and Pledge Northern Swords to King Cripple. In order to prevent more famine and war Sansa Stark was there after known as the Queen who Knelt*
Tyrion should have been king and his own hand.
"Who better to lead us into the future?"
"Any of you, I should think. Even the cook."
Bro said the best speech. Must not have seen any other season
still the worst ending to a series EVER !!!
It was not the ideal ending but for some of us it was not that bad.
@@elpublicador I'd love to hear what you actually thought was good about it?
i mean the concept of a vote is alright, but Bran as King is what makes it bad.
I always wondered if they meant a “better story than anyone else” or “a better story to tell” seeing that he knows everything about everything. Because obviously there are many other stories that are better than his personal one.
It definitely is and I wish they elaborated more on that than 2 minutes in the last episode. It's like the wisdom of the entire citadel library x 100 that cannot be deceived sitting on the throne. There is literally no better choice.
Tyrion says "He is our memory. The keeper of all our stories; the wars, weddings, births, massacres, famines... our triumphs, our defeats, our past... who better to lead us into the future?". Bran "having the best story" has nothing to do with him losing the ability to walk, going north of the wall etc, only that it lead to him becoming the 3 Eyed Raven which means he has seen all the intricate details of every mistake and success every King has made before him ergo the knowledge of what not to do.
The entire series only happens because the Lannisters were able to craft their own story & lie about their claim to the throne & Joffreys lineage. It's the story of Joffrey being the true King that enables the cascade of events of the entire series. It would not be possible for that to happen, by anyone, if Bran is King.
I am trying to think of likeable characters to compare him too...
He's like The Doctor but minus the mania and the ego. A Steve Rogers... but Xavier.
The older sister cannot fathom being out performed by his younger brother 😂
Half the people in agreement were related Bran. 🤣🤣🤣
In order to be a just and true leader, one must be the following: calm, empathetic, sympathetic, assertive and visible. Bran shows these qualities. The author is suggesting someone similar to Franklin Roosevelt during WWII. Being calm during a crisis is very difficult to keep your head straight. Nine out of 10 times, people fail and go with the majority, no one is willing to play devil advocate.
I’m not exactly an FDR fan, but yeah, that’s much better than a Marxist Targaryen woman.
Say what you want but all the living Stark kids got exactly what they wanted.
Uh what about Riccon. I doubt he wanted an arrow to the back.
@@Nostradevus1the comment literally says "living" stark kids.
@@4amcripple Pretty sure it didn’t when I replied to it.
@@Nostradevus1 ah okay gotcha.
"Who has a better story than Pod the Rod?"
You know when I first hear "why do you think I came all this way" All I hear in my mind is "dude you were wheeled here, you don't have a choice"
Season 8 worked for me. There were many brilliantly written deaths: the Night King; Lyanna; Ser Jorah; Melisandre, etc. I saw a video of an entire pub erupting in cheers at the death of the Night King. This may not have been the best speech but it was a very good speech. Season 8 rocked.
That's the problem. GoT went from something that had fans taking notes and reading maps, to something catered towards making pubs erupt. We went from the most subtle and intricate plots where each and every detail bears a book worth of meaningfulness to "woah cool action scene"
Yeah, the bankers were never punished and the elites laughed at the idea of democracy. Trash fascist propaganda for the masses.
I liked it, too. Most of it. The backlash really surprised me. It gave me closure. This shitty world with so much unfairness is now heading towards a fairer, democratic, feminist future. It was such a relief after experiencing its horror.
@@rossworkshop2799 I'm surprised anyone expected better, when the final seasons weren't based on books because GRRM hadn't written them yet. Always better to make a television series on a completed book series. Fullmetal Alchemist got it right, remaking the anime series after the manga series was complete, and it was glorious.
“Best speech”
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh you’re serious? Here, let me laugh harder.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
From now all rulers will not be born but chosen, "that most interesting part of today history
From now on rulers will not be born, they will be chosen.....
"Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?"
Bran: climbs a building, gets crippled, does nothing for a couple years, gets some magical bird powers, does nothing with them, is now king
This title has to be a joke
Could the show at least given us what we all wanted once. Jon Snow as king. He’s the rightful king.
"And who has a better story...than Hot Pie the Baker!"
The mere fact that Bran the Broken can actually see the past present and the future if this were all real, would be the most logical choice, right? Or am I missing something?
If you can see the future but you can't say what the future is because you can't change the future, then it's meaningless as being good to lead. At best, his vision to see the best, would make him a good hand of the king in regards to the guilt of a suspect during trial and sentencing. As king, his new title should be Bran the Useless.
Bran has the wisdom of thousands of meisters and the forsight of a mage, plus he cannot run away from his job, who else would be better?
Every other king would run away from a problem. I imagine the Iron Bank would like Bran as a good friend with that foresight.
We saw Bran manipulate the past in order to secure the future (Hodor, for example). The whole idea of a present time becomes fuzzy, because Bran can make it change.
Bran being King doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but him being high in the King's court does. If it could work out, he would be the ultimate Varys.
@@jacksons1010 how is it "manipulating the past" if there is no other past? we never see a past that Hodor is normal. Bran only realizes in the future he was the one that gave Hodor the brain damage in the past all along. That was always the past.
I feel if Tyrion had teamed up with Arya they would have ruled the world
G.O.T is a success because of Tyrion.
I don't care what all the other shitty fans say, I like this ending. I like how GoT ended, yes it could be done better but its not horrible.
I would watch it again.
“BEST speech” I assume that’s sarcasm?
All hail Bran the Broken.
Beyond wall ruled by Jon, Winterfell ruled by Sansa, South ruled by Bran, and foreign lands colonized by Arya. The whole world will eventually ruled by Stark
tyrion the dwarf crowning bran the cripple is such a strong and brave moment for the equality of disabled people
How Tyrion controlled all the leaders in Westeros, he convinced Jon to Kill Danaerys. 🤣 in the end the a Lannister controls everything
I never thought I'd find writing as wonderful as that of the final season of Game of Thrones, but Rings of Power proved me wrong.
🤣🤣
Yeah i remember shedding a couple of tears during this scene. Damn you jon snow, you could've convinced her, but no you had to go and kill her
You can't convince madness that the reality is no one is out to get them.
She was a monster and was never for to be a queen. Her true nature was evident as early as season 5.
Once her character was destroyed in the script writing to match the mad king her death was set. If not by John Snow then by Arya Stark.
@@theyaden technically they never detroyed her character just rushed it.
It was obvious in the early books and her handling of those who stood between her and her ambitions back when she was freeing the slaves and conquering the eastern lands that she had a tendency towards ruthless tyrannical behavior and could be short sighted in her decisions.
It was her counselors who constantly had to temper her towards mercy and she only listened to their counsel when she was truly unsure herself what route to take.
How was Jon going to convince her when Tyrion couldn't do it?
Trial by combat: Jon vs Greyworm
Only way they could've salvaged this ending.
Not even the actors could say Bran the Broken with any conviction or belief, what a sad and pathetic end to what should have been the best show ever.
"Bran has no interest in ruling." You can tell she wanted to rule the 7 kingdoms. That's all she desired, ever. That's why she got her father to admit he was a traitor, just so she could stay with Joffrey and be a queen.
That's the development in character through experience,pain & suffering
@@Smukhuty50 And how did she develop to br worthy of being a Queen.
@@Smukhuty50 man, Sansa was a plotter, she never developed any skill to be a RULER.
Daenerys was the only one In the show who have what it takes to be a great RULER that's why plotters like Tyrion and Sansa were afraid of her because she ain't playing.
Daenerys were LOVED by the slaves and the Dothraki because she did CARE about them.
I'm pretty sure they were all PROUD of her when she wiped out King's landing.
They had a Queen who treat them well and have dragons that can wipeout enemies. What more can you ask for?
@@dylanlanzuela7305 Danny was a Tyrant, Hittles was also supported by most of German people at the time, dont be naive, she was mad like her father
@@MatiasDypala explain tyrany?
The last season is garbage and always will be.
Brilliant ending facilitated by who else? Bitter sweet too.
Amazing Actor