Gender Wars, Ndebele, Shona Toxicity & Zimbabwean Double Standards

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • The Bold Exchange is back with more thought provoking uncomfortable conversations and what better way to start with our first ever female guest Patience Phiri who opens a can of worms on everything from politics to gender wars . She gives hot takes on Ndebele and Shona relations . Please bare with us we lost the first 14 minutes of this interview

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  • @themp4project
    @themp4project 10 місяців тому +6

    I’m loving how this conversation is going already.

  • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
    @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому +6

    Very enlightening. Where I strongly disagree with her is on praising the government for doing their job. So what if they've built roads and a boarder post and airport? That's their mandate is it not? Celebrating mediocrity is an illness we Zimbabweans need to cure. The airport she talks of is not evdn of an international standard. I was at Joshua Mqabuko Nkomo airport two weeks ago. The roof was leaking from the rain, the toilets were out of order and the lift wasn't working.

    • @kumbiektw
      @kumbiektw 9 місяців тому +1

      Things are being done and credit must be given when such is happening.Yes,there have been errors but let’s not just keep doubting and bashing ourselves.

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 9 місяців тому +3

      @@kumbiektw totally disagree. Your parent's job when you're little is to feed you, take care of you, ensure you're safe, take you to school and ensure you have a good education. They are mandated to do so. Thanks mum and dad will suffice. They're doing their job. Nobody sings for the whole world to know about it. But Zimbabweans love this nonsense we see where people praise the government for doing their job 40 years late. And doing a very mediocre job at that. Mostly poor quality everything because they ate the tender money. Ayi suka!
      Build a miniature Singapore or Doha airport then maybe. Build expressways and interchanges all over the country then maybe. Build bullet train infrastructure then maybe. But not this disease of celebrating mediocrity.

    • @jun_kage
      @jun_kage 8 місяців тому +1

      @@kumbiektwyou have never been out of SADC handiti? We see you celebrating the barest minimum

  • @mikemurenzvi5339
    @mikemurenzvi5339 10 місяців тому +4

    Fire episode!!! MaP is always a vibe. 🔥🔥🔥

  • @nigelmadzima2169
    @nigelmadzima2169 10 місяців тому +10

    Watching this show you get to understand how and why the tribalism issue is never going to be resolved if our manner of thinking never changes. You have a woman here praising the man for her culture and juxtapose the lack of indoda from the shona people and as long as we parade those sentiments haibo we won't go anywhere and that's not to say one cannot praise his own but praise and bashing another whole tribe becomes messy. I mean the title of the post is gender wars, ndebele, shona TOXICITY 😅😂😂😂 haibo kanjani

    • @patiencephiri263
      @patiencephiri263 10 місяців тому +2

      First of all, thank you for watching 🌻
      Kodwa but I didn't not say anything about 'shona men' 🥴.
      Sorry worayithi, I choose peace 😊

    • @nirbija
      @nirbija 10 місяців тому

      @@patiencephiri263
      So 'Shona men' are fine; but Shona women are "toxic"; because they are rivals, right?
      We get that: Females being rivals cannot be helped: It is the nature of things.
      One thing we can all agree on, Phiri; you are fine. Every observant and real male (Shona or Ndebele) must agree.
      You "choose peace" and I will choose love: Peace and love, what fine combination. What say you? lol

    • @patiencephiri263
      @patiencephiri263 10 місяців тому

      @@nirbija Competition? Toxic? Cut! Cut! 🎬
      I'm no more playing 🙈🙈🙈

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому

      She is sticking to the topic. The truth has always been a hard pill to swallow. Ndebele men are worriors. You simply don't see the same with shona men.

    • @nirbija
      @nirbija 9 місяців тому +4

      @@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      "warriors"? lol
      Violence-loving "warriors" are likely to INVITE Gukurahundi, and then moan endless, like old females, after decisive defeat at the weapons of the Sage Shona!
      You see; Shona know that for humans there are these 'Rules of Thumb':
      1. Don't be "warrior" 'out of season': Don't always be itching for battle; it is not human; it is demon.
      2. If the enemy "warriors" invite battle, then do anything and everything to make said enemy "warriors" regret they ever started shit.
      3. After battle (DEFENSIVE) 'stand down': Don't be "warrior" out of battle season.

  • @gilberttigere5116
    @gilberttigere5116 10 місяців тому +2

    I am loving this form the word go it just felt like something i resonate with from the start.

  • @jun_kage
    @jun_kage 8 місяців тому +2

    First of all, we dont live in the 1800. All the warriors are dead. If the Ndebele were such warriors we should have been seekng more activism against Zanu down south.

  • @gilberttigere5116
    @gilberttigere5116 10 місяців тому +2

    How on earth did you loose the 1st 14 minutes they must have been gold.

  • @simbamahachi8116
    @simbamahachi8116 10 місяців тому +3

    Really interesting

  • @kushonbeat8690
    @kushonbeat8690 10 місяців тому +3

    this is good keep going

  • @wigans_zw
    @wigans_zw 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for bringing the bold exchange its been a while... Looking foward to more of these 🙏🏽🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Sticks......................
    @Sticks...................... 24 дні тому

    Am not gonna lie this was interesting and unapologetic 😂😂😂 siyabonga

  • @SonicAndFriends18
    @SonicAndFriends18 9 місяців тому +1

    Loved this! Patience is so eloquent!

  • @jt6537
    @jt6537 10 місяців тому +1

    organic is not expensive if you invest in your own garden.

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому

      Organic is unknown to us Zimbabweans. It's a term used in other countries because their foods aren't natural. Our Zimbabwean foods are natural.

  • @takudzwajoseph6113
    @takudzwajoseph6113 10 місяців тому +1

    so real men are in Bulawayo oh news to us ... nice.......50/50 thing killed everything my sister ,men in Harare are woke and they are also warriors ........the man present today is adapting to whatever women want .......i would never die for someone who wont die for me

    • @patiencephiri263
      @patiencephiri263 10 місяців тому +1

      Moving to Harare to find my warrior. Thanks for the heads up 😊

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm yet to see a worrrior ongumtshona.

    • @ashleymukarali4852
      @ashleymukarali4852 9 місяців тому

      😂😂😂 why do you want to be warrior this not 1890 the things that kill people pride and woman with crazy ideas

    • @jun_kage
      @jun_kage 8 місяців тому

      @@sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 warriors should know how to spell warrior😂

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jun_kage oops! Warrior it is 🤣🤣.

  • @bridgette9614
    @bridgette9614 6 місяців тому +1

    Haku Stream, can you please time stamp the discussion according to the segment/topic?

  • @d12cov38
    @d12cov38 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for sending me the link mngane, you are always factful

  • @irvinemkwena7325
    @irvinemkwena7325 9 місяців тому +1

    We have o Highlanders abawinayo, lol

  • @mandlenkosimafu5624
    @mandlenkosimafu5624 10 місяців тому +1

    Good men is from proverbs 1-30. Then 31 for women but yea

    • @patiencephiri263
      @patiencephiri263 10 місяців тому

      Thanks 😊

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому

      This book from a westernised religion that Africans are so proud to associate themselves with is the reason Africa cannot and will never move forward.

  • @Sticks......................
    @Sticks...................... 24 дні тому

    This was more controversial than Kate Williams interview 😂

  • @geraldmuchandiona8996
    @geraldmuchandiona8996 9 місяців тому

    I loved this conversation

  • @ZWC263
    @ZWC263 9 місяців тому

    vari married here sisi ava ndavafarira

  • @craigmandaza3650
    @craigmandaza3650 10 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful episode, but, just a suggestion, in the next one, anytime she speaks in Ndebele, may you please add subtitles for the non Ndebele speaking Zimbabwean audience, it adds better experience so that the point of what she is saying is not lost

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 10 місяців тому +1

      True. I stopped listening to Zigo and other shows because they put an English title and speak in isitshona waya waya. Why do that and not bother to use subtitles? And when u highlight that issue amatshona come into the comments section and bash me for bringing it up.

    • @nervousmoyo3101
      @nervousmoyo3101 9 місяців тому

      FUSEK tribalist bullshit

    • @buthobngwenya8379
      @buthobngwenya8379 9 місяців тому +1

      Learn your languages as a Zimbabwean,

    • @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298
      @sithabelamandlawenkosiwodu6298 9 місяців тому

      @@buthobngwenya8379 amatshona have matshona privilege and because of that they don't feel they need to learn any other language.

  • @crescenciadubebango5347
    @crescenciadubebango5347 10 місяців тому

    Wow ❤ Pat.

  • @blessingsongore1581
    @blessingsongore1581 10 місяців тому +1

    This show is for women not man women always think man are fine zvinoita zvega vamwe varume are in jail becoz of rape yaasinakuita police itori right nekubvunza such question so that they investigate

  • @jun_kage
    @jun_kage 8 місяців тому

    6:26 its cute how this lady thinks the people in that fancy house care about any Zimbabwean’s problem😂