Will the Commonwealth beat the CRM?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- It seems that The Ones Who Live is leading more and more to a fight between the Commonwealth and the CRM. So if this fight happens, who would/will win?
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The Walking Dead logic suggests that the entire CRM airforce can be taken out by a couple of civilians with fireworks and aimbot
Lazy writing with a touch of plot armor.....or is it the other way around?
Exactely and I don’t like it.
it has been lazy since the start of it all want to know why all the zombies left the Mexicans alone in America because somebody has to be cutting all that grass hahaha@@TheWalkies
Bro had good aim ig
True. However it’s much better than the commonwealth arc. We saw a CRM solder taking out one main character.
I kinda thought they had a chance against the CRM.... but then we see that the CRM have Apache attack helicopters not just transport Helicopters.
However in those timeskips we also don't know how much Commonwealth troops have either improved and if they got more equipment then we realize. I'd be shocked but all we know they could have better training now, better weapons and even SAM sites. Thats big what ifs though.
@@haloshaw1626well in the last episode of the walking dead you see king Ezekiel as the new governor and mercer as his right hand man and Daryl mentions when talking to Carol that shes done a good job with that place so that implies that everyone at the Commonwealth will receive survival training from the group and lead by king Ezekiel I'm sure they will flourish. I trust that they'll be ready for a fight
See Nats Device
@@cloud67899 Nats devices are crazy but awesome. maybe Michonne learned how to make them, or has the blueprints she could take to Eugene.
@@haloshaw1626 brooo that would be dope n sounds like it could happen
the Commonwealth Soldier armor is for Walkers, not for humans
The CRM originated from the Pennsylvania National Guard, so it makes sense that they'd have better armor, weapons, and training. The M4A1 rifle was also standard issue for the U.S. Military at the time (and still is today for the most part) while the AR-15 is a common civilian rifle.
CRM has 25,000 troops and maybe alot more... for a big city of over 200k Im betting in order to protect philly after all those years on all sides 30,000 or more troops.
and also they have vehicles, helicopters with bombs
No the CRM is only around 17-19 thousand. Pennsylvania National Gaurd consisted of 18 thousand troops at the start of the outbreak.
How do you know?@@Spetsnaz690
@@Spetsnaz690is this the start of the outbreak ?
In the Rick show, they confirm the CRM is a force of 14,000 (not including extra personnel they can raise)
Storm troopers vs heavily armed forces 😂
Storm Troopers vs UNSC
But the heavily armed forces are proven to be weaklings after all
Nah, more like stormtroopers vs the rebels on the ship without the force
Stormtroopers vs combine
Are you joking?
CRM had years to be prepared, they don't take chances...
They had years to practice and they still are terrible tho
@@cloud67899 welcome to plot armor
@@andrewyoung4307 plot armor is in your favorite movie, TV show, videogame,list goes on n same for me y'know same for everyone
@@cloud67899 they're not terrible
@@Wikchsawa they got taken out by people who weren't beyond the walls for Long at all ,World Beyond scenes
CRM has helicopters with missiles......
bro they have a freaking apache attack helicopter
Which can be easily taken out ...see Nats Device
@@cloud67899Yeah, that was a plot device. No way did that thing puncture a windscreen, at that range.
@@hobanagerik erm....they were close AF what show are you watching
@@cloud67899 Odd, I didn’t see any Commonwealth Apache, or Chinook helicopters. If they had those I’m willing to bet they had tanks, and/or other armour as well.
saying a ar15 is better then a military grade m4 is fucking wild im sorry
Some are. M4’s only cost the government around $600 from the manufacturer.
I thought the same but I suppose an argument can be made
If built right, they can be. Other then the fully auto ability, and ar15 can be ALOT better then a standard issued m4
to be fair i have shot many that are actually better than are military grade
Military grade just means it’s good enough and cheap enough to be obtained in mass.
Any mf that’s used military grade anything will tell ya it’s hardly ever better.
M4 is just a m&p sport that has a full auto sear.
CRM vs Commonwealth would be the coolest
Indeed.
I want that a lot I miss the commonwealth
A bloody war both sides will lose half of numbers it would be cool if a Alexandria residents milita wearing a Commonwealth troopers armor with green camouflage with it would look badass on them
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA that would be crazy if they would work together slaughter walker variants then CRM and Commonwealth will make a truce betray their CRM general gets arrested locked up then a time jump we see CRM members transforming themselves wearing Commonwealth armor underneath with their CRM zipper jacket protect against walker bite
@@FOXCYBORGNINJA I see where this going at it'll be like Jurassic Park a huge ship container is speed fast in the ocean while Commonwealth vs CRM troopers are fighting each other in the beach of oceanside some oceanside residents wearing Commonwealth troopers armor with blue Camouflage during the shootout then the ship container from France speed up but Land on oceanside all sudden stronger walker variants escaping the container ship appearing biting both CRM and Commonwealth during gun battle war both sides have no choice to work together slaughter bunch of variants walkers together maybe theyll stop fighting call a truce oceanside war is officially over. while the others are still fighting
I don’t know what a commonwealth or a CRM is but looking at the clips of the Commonwealth guys just standing still, in the middle of a horde, tells me that the CRM is gonna whoop them.
Spot on
Yeah dud like it's nott even a competition CRM wipes commonwealth because not only are they much more trained but they have much greater weapons with attack helicopters and fkin missiles
Well the Crm soldiers get taken out by children so I don't see Crm winning anything anymore anyway Richonne took out their elites
No debate. Crm has military training and they even got trackers and panic buttons so they can legit just call the whole damn outpost if needed
Something about the Commonwealth. Before the collapse Mercer was a Marine, and we know what the CRM did to the Marines in Operation Cobalt. If the CRM-Commonwealth war happens it will be interesting to see Mercer's conviction against the CRM
I can already see mercer putting on his finest suit of plot armour.
It's basically storm trooper (commonwealth) vs clone troopers (crm)
Good way to put it. Empire was way larger and would defeat the Grand Army of the Republic thought.
not to mention some of the crm soldiers are former service members from each military branch like okafor & huck
we know that the military in the series have no skills
@@The_weeb1 that's probably because the soldiers & civilians switched skills
lol@@susanoo3695
but plot armor is there to@@susanoo3695
@@The_weeb1that was for the plot so we could have a show! of course the military failed. Also I wouldn’t say rosita or Abraham had no skills.
If i should tell differences of those two then i would say:
Commonwealth is like a "Private army"
Meanwhile CRM is more like "Army of the new post-apocalyptic world" just not with too many people to own the whole world, let's say "New generation of US Army"
While I agree with almost everything you said, I gotta disagree with your take on Commonwealth soldier armor. The reason why it seems so flimsy and ineffective is mainly due to the Commonwealth soldiers going up against the main cast who has plot armor. We see in the show that Commonwealth armor can take some pretty hard hits and keep its wearer safe. Hell, we see Aaron shoot that one commonwealth commander several times with a Desert Eagle, knocking him off of a 2 or 3 story building, whereas the commander was relatively ok until the walkers started ripping into him.
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The show is wildly inconsistent with their armor, but overall I do believe that it offers amazing protection against ballistic and melee threats so long as it isn’t going up against a main character.
Edit: I also just found more evidence that suggests that the armor is supposed to be bulletproof. Season 11 Episode 13. Maggie finds the Walker-fied commonwealth troopers who were executed and examines their bodies after putting them down. She explicitly states that they were targeted through the gaps in their armor by skilled marksmen. This, along with the commonwealth commander eating either several 357., 44., or 50AE Desert Eagle rounds point blank has me convinced that it’s just bad writing.
I had to choose between bad writing (plot armor) or find other reasons for them being so bad in this fights. If you look closely their armor moves kind of weirdly, it seems anoying, but yeah that commander fell from a building and was fine, weird.
It's probably More designed agaisnt walkers than guns. It would Be pretty hard for a Walker to bite trough The armor
@@tomaattiXthat’s exactly what its designed for its also more ceramonial which is why its so colorful.
The common wealth has no reason to really fight people. As almost anyone they meet will do anything to JOIN not fight. And we see with training its an obstacle course for the dead. Hardly any soldier V soldier training.
The commonwealth likely doubts very seriously that there is any group that could threaten them in size.
@@TheWalkies I also just found more evidence that suggests that the armor is supposed to be bulletproof. Season 11 Episode 13. Maggie finds the Walker-fied commonwealth troopers who were executed and examines their bodies after putting them down. She explicitly states that they were targeted through the gaps in their armor by skilled marksmen. This, along with the commonwealth commander eating either several 357., 44., or 50AE Desert Eagle rounds point blank has me convinced that it’s just bad writing.
@@TheWalkiesWhen in doubt, choose bad writing
Common wealth doesn't stand a chance. But they can team up with other civilizations around the globe to put a dent into it.
With Pamela imprisoned on the season 11 finale, and now with Eziekel in charge along with Mercer at the commonwealth, odds are that they might stand a chance to hold back an attack by the CRM. Plus with sewer access, they’ll engage in guerrilla warfare tactics if it comes to that.
Chances are they ran the Commonwealth into the ground like they did with the Kingdom and Alexandra. These later season characters are driven by emotions and are completely incompetent.
Lol not after what rick and michone did😂
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plot armor.
Lmao no the Commonwealth stands no chance. CRM has 20,000 and is armed with bombs, chemical weapons, helicopters and vehicles. All it would take is for the Commonwealth’s pathetic defenses to be bombed and allow a column of walkers to do the job. The CRM members are actual Military and those that weren’t before the outbreak have been trained by actual drill sergeant’s, which we saw in World Beyond. Commonwealth seems to place little emphasis on training standards considering Mercer was at a session. As stated by Lance, the vast majority of CW soldiers were kids in the early days of the outbreak who only signed for a simple paycheck, where as CRM soldiers are determined to do what’s best for the community. Even with their low standards Commonwealth does not have a crap ton of soldiers. It could be due to budgeting but considering the fact that each CW soldier was referred by number, we only got confirmation that there are at least 500 soldiers. Also the Commonwealth Soldiers are terrible at doing their job in general since the government heavily monitors them unlike CRM, hindering efficiency. For a labor camp at Alexandria which had dozens of people, Pamela only allowed 16 soldiers for garrison. Lastly, CRM has shown it can effectively fight against competitors because they wiped out Omaha in only a day.
Granted Omaha was likely a surprise attack. And even if the citizens, or whatever defense force they had saw the CRM helicopters coming at them they would have thought nothing of it. They were allies after all. Then they would have been bombed. And too late then. Also these communities simply don’t have any equipment to fight the CRM air superiority decides the fight. And all these communities mathematically should be able to put up a fight wont be able too due to helicopters.
Another thing to consider, is that in no way will CRM will bring entirety of their force and effectively bring their entire army against the commonwealth, leaving their own cities unprotected.
Its likely that any invasion force will be but a fraction of CRM's strenght as you have to consider the logistics and neccessity of having troops stationed back home.
crm was confirmed to have around 17000 soldiers in total, with 2000 of them being frontliners and the rest being infantry
Where?!
i saw it on the twd fandom@@TheWalkies
@@hybridhealthofficialThorne mentioned it episode 3
They have a lot more. Close to 30K plus could call Many reserves from the CRP
@@hybridhealthofficial 3000 frontliners*
The Commonwealth vs The CRM Civil Republic Military 🚁 ❤️🙏🏾
Just the scene where Michonne overlooks the hangers is enough to put the Commonwealth down. A single Apache is already an overwhelming force for them to deal with. The airpower is the most powerful thing here. Besides that, CRM infantry puts utility over uniformity. The body armor is more useful than the bulky plastic airsoft armor they have.
The Commonwealth trooper's armor isn't as flimsy as you think. Like a previous comment mentioned, it seems like it is able to stop pretty hefty rounds, as when Aaron shoots the Commonwealth commander off the building with a Desert Eagle which apparently only stunned him until the walkers got to him before he could recover. More so, when Maggie finds the zombified Commonwealth troopers she notes that when they were killed they were shot through the gaps of their armor. Again, I'm just quoting a previous comment I seen by @tacotaco1239 because I thought it explained it pretty thoroughly. Take this as you will but it doesn't seem like an armor issue, just a bad writing issue.
The crm armor is actually good for zombies you don't need to stop bullets just bites also the AR-15 and m4 is the same rifle just m4 is a military AR-15 that has full auto or burst fire capabilities
The Commonwealth soldiers' armor does cover more and offer more protection than that of the CRM soldier's armor, especially against walkers. In the show, though, they couldn't get enough pieces of armor for the extras to actually fully cover the actors like how they're covered in the comics.
Yeah except crm armor actually protects against bullets considering they use plates
The comics and the show representation of the armor is much different
Speaking after the ending aired proves there was no war which was said would not happen but good video anyway
In a hit and run campaign, the Commonwealth soldiers could definitely do some damage
Imagine shane in the crm he would be an absolute, menace to the common wealth 😂😂😂
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WATCH THE VIDEO, LOOK AT THIS COMMENT. CRM HAS HELICOPTERS WITH ROCKETS.
Still watch the video becouse it’s entertaining.
3000 crm soldiers just got killed by 2 people
They weren't aware though
called plot armour because "Together they can do Anything"
Great video again, keep up the good work. 👍
Thanks man!
İ am sure that a New community will come up and be a team with commonwealth to defeat the crm
new frontier group?
Rick and Michonne destroyed the frontliners but they still got a ton of Apaches, Chinooks, and Blackhawks in reserves as shown in the series, the equipment in Cascadia will be recovered.
The CRM also has Attack helicopters which the Commonwealth doesn't have so overall i'm pretty sure the Commonwealth wouldn't stand a chance against the CRM.
Okafor vs Mercer is gonna be legendary if only.
The commonwealth is Alexandria compared to the crm
It's basically army (CRM) vs police (Comenwalth)
Let me ask one question so the Police department has better trainning than the commonwealth please respond?
The commonwealth has 50,000 soldiers and the crm has 200,000 soldiers
you def dont have any clue on what you are saying
Sure.
Uhhh did bro just say the AR-15 was better than the M4? I mean high-end models sure but the fire mode is restricted. Get someone from the US for advice on guns in the future lol
They gonna make United State back again Jesus Christ here we go again.
I really thought that Rick will bring the whole commonwealth with him to kill the crm😂 Am I the onlyone who thought that?
No Rick and Michonne will defeat them by themselves
None of this makes a difference. The only thing that matters is which side has the plot armored characters on thier team.
It would be cool to have them make a movie out of the final battle, combining all spinoffs into one large film
The crm probably has more solders and the nuclear sub from ftwd
i dont think Commonwealth VS CRM would happen, its gonna bet Commonwealth+Portland VS CRM
Exactelly.
Why not of added technology crm has lights radios and much more those led mines
Bcp de question sans reponses les 3 PPP EXEPTIONS ????? HEATH EN HABIT.CRM PAS VU DANS AUCUN EPISODE DONC PRK???????? Pour moi saison 2 obliger sinon aucun sens tous dois etre raccord tou dois avoid un sens et surtt la chronologie
Rick and Michonne kill the CRM army at the end of The Ones Who Live including Jadis/Anne then they go back home and Rick finally sees Judith and RJ
plot armor.
Pour moi la fin a chier NEGAN CASI 3 SAISON ET LA CRM LES PLUS DANGEREUX 1 EPISODE MERCI AUREVOIR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 11 ANS D ATTENTE POUR SA 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In complete fairness we see that same Commonwealth armor tank 3 .50 AE rounds at point blank range so there's clearly, at least, some protection.
The Commonwealth in Ohio close by Virginia vs The CRM Civil Republic Military in Philadelphia in The hidden city 🏙️🚁🧟♂️🧟♀️🧟
The the AR 15 is only a semi automatic rifle where the M4 A1 has semi and has automatic capabilities. The M4 A1 would win every time.
Well the common wealth does make it impossible to be bitten on anywhere other than the neck and joints
CRM wears actual military gear. The CW wears bright white costumes that stand out like a sore thumb. Idk... looks like a close fight
No, rick and michone did it by themselves, the crm got lit on a whole other level😂.
lazy writing and plot armor it was terrible and the plot armor is very unrealistic
once again dirty lazy plot armor writing by AMC. without plot armour they would have been done for.
I played paintball for over a decade and never once did I see anyone wearing "armor" like that. Paintball "armor" is rare to begin with and far more similar to a Motocross jacket, no hard plastic parts or anything like that. The only thing that resembles paintball gear is the goggles. Their armor honestly looks like something out of a B-movie set.
Voila pour moi la bonne fin CRM VS COMMENWEALTH
We need Walking Dead mod for HOI4
I liked the first 5 episodes. I thought rick was gonna return to the community. Meet Morgan. Find out what happened to Alexandria and thw whisperers. Etc. But nope lazy ass writing. Defeated the crm in 40 minutes.
Reason why is because they ran out of money so they had to find a way to wrap things up, since this was created as a love story.
CRM has intelligence, multiple powerful communities, air power, etc.
CRM a lot of the troops are also National guards
2 people tool down CRM but they explain that they had some bad apples in the CRM now the CRM is helping people like they were supposed to
only bc of plot armor.
Pleaple who know how it ends
Who cares the shows dumb
I mean Carol alone can take out 20 guys so send Carol
This walking dead universe ends? Nah they milking this forever. lol
It’s not milking if it’s good content.
The Commonwealth armor is actually bulletproof? Toby Carlson of the Commonwealth got killed by Aaron in the manner of shooting his chest plate and making him fall the stories down below plus he survived the fall and died by walkers. Aaron shot him with a desert eagle so that armor stopped a 50 AE bullet. so its not plastic cheap toy armour, its the real deal.
well this aged well....
The CRM has decent air superiority, considering they have an Apache and fleet of helis
The numbers don't matter as much now. 1 crm soldier could probably take down at least a couple commonwealth soldiers by himself.
Id give it a 1:2 ratio 10 is a bit much but I see your point
@@ultragalacticgamer7195 I might change the number after rewarching the show, but the crm is still better trained overall.
@@SludgeMan62 definitely
CRM means Civic Repuplic Military no?
Yeah it does.
The CRM is using plate carriers and ACH (Advanced Combat helmets, used in early iraq war) while the Commonwealth has, as mentioned, paintball gear. That alone, not mentioning numbers, ground and arial vehicles, training, organization etc. CRM would only lose to plot armor.
Nice video man your prediction is pretty based.
Thanks.
CRM soldiers VS Commonwealth soldiers.
Its quantity and conscription of the entire population ( Commonwealth) VS quality, better training, better armor, more discipline and only lets anyone who has proven to be a real superior fighter ( CRM).
Kinda reminds me of 300 where 300 spartans faces 250,000 persian invaders. You know the outcome of the war
i lost my shlt when you mentioned the possibility of Negan coming to help out with his people... it'd be SOOOOO epic goddamn. Negan, Rick and Daryl fighting side by side. id pass out.
I wish during this time of not seeing the commonwealth as much, they’d surely would have upgraded their armor. Right? Lol Great Video👍
Turns out, they just need Rick and Michonne XD
Well… now after the final of the ones who live we probably won’t see a war anymore. Rick is probably going to be the new leader of the crm and will bring his family and friends there
in experience CRM can take on commonwealth its the former national guards alongside militaries who defy the orders from the federal government during operation cobalt.
N O
A entire squad of Commonwealth got wiped out by slow ass zombies.
no.
I always thought the purpose of the common wealth armour was to protect from bites from zombies not to protect from Bullets and it looks like it covers everything from bites really well
The CRM and Commonwealth both use m4s. They're the same guns.
Okey i hade more and enough seeing people fight each other in one Apocalypse they facing zombies
It makes since that the crm is better because in twd they were the Pennsylvania National Guard that stood their ground against the government so they have military grade weapons but the commonwealth soldiers aren’t as bad as we think because in twd when Negan and others are forced to work and a few try and run they get gunned down without a bullet missing and that’s very impressive because there was lost of trees in the way now the armor is really sh!tty for the commonwealth but maybe it’s not too bad because in the show you can see a commonwealth soldier get bit on a tower but the directors had him take off the helmet so maybe it does offer more protection then we think. Also since the crm has its population mostly safe they won’t have any experience outside the city so they probably won’t be good at fighting if they are conscripted into the crm unlike the commonwealth that I believe is made up of people that once were outside so they have more experience then the average CR civilians
there is a chance commonwealth army used to be some small units from the ohio national guard
Also the walking deads writing during the commonwealth story was pretty bad so the common wealth soldiers are probably a lot more capable especially if the "ones who lives" writers tackle that conflict.
The crm would absolutely shit on the commonwealth.
Fighting a defensive war would be an advantage for the commonwealth
The commonwealth armor is for against walkers not people (walkers can’t chomp plastic)
In the ones who live they might finally fight but rick and michone will help the comwealth they might beat the crm or not
Well seeing how both fight...they'll kill themselves off before each other if anything
All u need to know is which team our main characters are on. Commonwealth would win
The CRM would mop the floor with the commonwealth. 😂
Based on how the Crm fights I see the exact opposite lol
@@cloud67899 The CRM has military weapons, missiles, tanks, and rockets. As well as trained soldiers. The Commonwealth is known for storm trooper aiming 😂
@@brainanchorstudios879 both sides have Powerful AF weaponry however BOTH don't know how to use em. Commonwealth wins just bc they got Rick's Group with em. Crm is easily taken down by mere villagers as seen in World Beyond season 2
@@cloud67899 the CRM destroyed whole communities and there’s no doubt they would’ve destroyed the commonwealth. They have helicopters and deadly gas weapons. I love Ricks group but they don’t stand a flying chance.
CRM automatically wins because of air superiority
If it goes to all of the people from all of the spinoffs against the CRM, like all of Negans people, all of Daryls people, Alexandria and maybe some people from fear, I would go feral.
The last we saw of the commonwealth was 1 year after season 11s main event. For all we know the commonwealth could have developed and became insanely op