UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object" so if a country spots a plane or helicopter from another country it would be considered a UFO, it's not only for an alien ship
Soulless Senpai the crm don’t exist in the comics in the comics there is the commonwealth which is a network of community’s 50,000 people strong this crm are new show only and are clearly military and very strong we don’t know much about them but they don’t sound like nice people, people who get traded to them like what happened with rick they tend to be forced to become soilders all we know about them is they’re very strong have resources have ships and helicopters and that’s it
Rick looked at that helicopter as if he’d just seen a dragon fly over him; really shows just how disconnected the survivors have all been from modern technology for so long. Which makes sense, it shows how long this apocalypse has been going on for as well.
He most likely thought he was seeing things cuz in Atlanta when he first met Glenn and them he said he was chasing one and they said he was seeing things
@@stevenkne yeah could be a miriat of things maybe when Maggie gets them all to the Commonwealth it will jar they're memory, you know the CRM didn't exist in the comics. I think it just comes down to shitty writing on the show which started later part of season 6 all the way until end of the disastrous seasons 7 & 8 that's why they brought Angela Kang in, she got it back on track partly and she's definitely a better writer but I just sometimes don't like the way she tells the story the flow of it she does some weird and questionable things in that realm.
Also a helicopter appears in the first episode of the first season, or Rick even tries to follow the helicopter, but is prevented by a giant horde of zombies in Atlanta
This group is so interesting, I feel like they’re building what rick always wanted now just towns here and there but an entire trade route throughout the US and actually gov, economy, etc
0:55 Marks Rick as an 'A'. The Ones Who Live elaborates that CRM categorizes cosignee's into two letters, A's and B's. Nice attention to detail by the writers.
i mean what is there to say?? people are just gonna think theyre making it up. gabe never saw a helicopter, he just heard other people in jadis’ radio call. Rick has seen it but hes prob persuaded himself that hes seeing things that are not there at times. and Negan was focused on fighting the militia, and has been locked up for most of the time, i mean not everyone would take them serious, so until a lot of people actually see that there is some type of government military that is still alive then theyll all fall in line.
We basically can say this story has hinted at the entire series. Right from the first episode. Yes it could be just something they had in the episode that led Rick into the horde in Atlanta but it's the perfect opportunity to write that it was the CRM which is a fantastic tie in. I'm very excited to see the Rick and Michonne Spin off
I love how the song that played In the first episode plays, it shows that the helicopter he saw in the first episode “finally lands” to save rick. He also says I found them when the bridge blew up and he said in the 2nd episode when they were in Atlanta that he was just a man looking for his family. He means that Daryl, micchone, and all the others are his family.
the first time he said this, he was talking about Lori & Carl. even tho his wife & son aren't anymore alive, they're the reason that he kept fighting to be alive, because he wanted to find them.
@ᏔHY SO SEᎡIOUS !!! The commonwealth is a large advanced group that will be introduced in season 11 of TWD. Those military men you see at the end of the s10 finale are soldiers from the commonwealth. The CRM is the civic republic military. They are a part of the Alliance of Three: Omaha Nebraska , Portland Oregon , and the CRM itself. You get a glimpse of who the crm are in TWD world beyond. They have Rick , but no one knows what theyve been up to.
I sometimes like to think how cool it would of been to see the CRM introduced earlier into TWD and see how they react to groups like the savours and whispers. And see them react to the commonwealth
Wouldn't be a suprise if they made the walker virus. Their goal was to destroy the world's governments and unite everyone under one rule and one nation.
At 2:15 if you look at the lid of the can you'll see the CRM symbol on it I just noticed this it's amazing at what Easter Eggs you find in certain TV Shows, Movies, and Video Games
I think Negan and Gab never talked about this because they understood how big and powerful this community could be. It wasn’t about finding a community anymore but keep yours safe and discreet… This explains the Commonwealth arc, a lot of our characters didn’t want to stay there, they just asked for help
Imagine how fucked up it would be to see a Passenger Jumbo jet, for all you know the world's still normal and your area is the only one hit with the plague
08x05 is far by my favorite appearance of the CRM in hindsight of everything we know currently. Truly a WTF moment at the time of airing. Even better after after we know Rick ultimately ends up in one.
I can't wait to see Rick with Jadis, Heath and Isabella in the movies! Jadis being a super interesting character, Heath being one of my favourite comic character and Isabella with her mystery!
I just realised when she put rick in the container she wrote A on it, how can she say Rick was an A when they actually got in the helicopter the next season she said he was a B?
iLTx because the group he got sent too is 50,000 members strong. If he was healthy he could join as a soldier straight away. However he wasn’t healthy so they needed too use supplies on rick too get him back too good health (too become a soldier). And I think that’s why the person on the radio said ‘there will be consequences’.
Lucas Chang you mean foe or friend to jadis, it wouldn’t be relevant to the colony she sent them to as they don’t know the person so how could they be a friend or enemy of the colony ?
I wonder what the original plan with the helicopter was, afterall it’s first appearance was in the first half of season 8 which I don’t think was around the time Andrew asked to leave the showcase, it seemed like they had something different planned for these helicopter people instead of having them set up the Rick grime movies.
Long ling Gruesome There were reports that Andrew Lincoln & Scott Gimple had discussions about Rick’s eventual end on the tv show, starting way back in Season 4 when the group was still @ the prison. Jadis was introduced way back in S7 E10 “New Best Friends.” The Season 8 finale was supposed to be Rick’s last episode but Andy wasn’t 💯 on leaving then bc he and the writers still had a lot of set up for his exit. I think that’s why he was around until 9x05. He had fully intended for his grand farewell being in S8 but when the time came to actually announce that he was leaving at San Diego Comic Con in 2017, he said that he just wasn’t ready.
The helicopters first appearance was in the first episode, that helicopter is the same engine type then these ones, not the helicopter from Season 3 that The Governor shot down, they're different.
Maybe michonne will find something of Rick's on that island she's going to and the helicopters will be mentioned, then she'll tell the group, and that's when gabe will tell what he knows.
It's not a plot hole, It just doesn't stands as something important while you're on war or improving your people's life... I mean, they were supposed to follow the helicopter by foot?
Imperial Alex I’m sorry, but your explanation is quite flawed. It is definitely a plot hole. 6 years went by without a war, yet Gabriel or Negan didn’t mention it, plus no, of course they wouldn’t go for it on foot, but it’s still a major detail to leave out.
@@FNhub Gabriel promised not to say anything, Negan didn't know what was all about and he just wanted to be back at Samctuary to face Simon, right after the war, he had his throat sliced, so it might ve easy to forget after all that time, even more considering anyone would trust Negan at that point
Ricks reaction to the helicopter is the best. That right there changed everything for him that’s a huge wtf. He’s come across tanks other vehicles but a fuckin HELICOPTER THATS DIFFERENT THE AMOUNT OF GROUND YOU CAN COVER AND SEE WHATS GOING ON. All he knew was the little surronding areas him and his crew has come across
When you think back to season 3 that even that many years back a group who had an helicopter was unbelievable the reactions really were realistic for them seeing one in season 8 and later
So all this time Negan saw a helicopter and didn't think to tell anybody... OR GABRIEL?! Dude knew she was going to trade him or rick and suddenly ricks body was never found, jadis gone with him 😂
@@porco_germe0v451 But since then, Jadis never mentioned the CRM. We only knew that it was indeed the CRM bc of the logo. And the fact that CRM was introduced after the season 9.
@@brownieboi1691 probably not but Rick could of been there before and Virgil might know Rick and when Michonne brings up Rick he could probably tell her that he's still alive
One of the things that annoys me about the show is when characters keep important information like that to themselves. What could have been more natural than to tell everyone: "OMG I just saw a helicopter!"
I think A symbol means, a person that is about to turn (probably for test) considering she was trying to make Negan turn. And B is probably a worthy person to be part of government and have great survival skill. And will be sent out there somehere just like what happened to her?
Jadis maintained an informal relationship with the CRM, but you're right anyone who is designated a 'B' will likely be spared from experimentation and instead be put to work under the CRM to carry out its operations across the world. Rick will likely become a Soldier or something similar in exchange for them having saved his life, although it is quite obvious that Rick will go on to discover the CRM has nefarious intentions and are committing what would have been considered war crimes in an effort to survive and find a way to either control or cope with the virus. But since this group is obviously well off compared to everyone else they are secretive, and efficient at keeping things under wraps. Perhaps if Rick tried to escape the CRM would wipe out his Community and people - so knowing that Rick has little choice but to remain in league with the CRM. Although I'm sure it's a safe bet that eventually Rick will escape and take on the CRM at some point however it's going to be their biggest challenge yet after the Whisperer war. Which would make sense for the survivor's final big threat to conquer before the TV Series ends.
I know that this new goverment or new order still working under control, they past around the U.S searching for important survivors, like doctors or people that can handle a gun pretty good, so in my opinion their is a country or a special group out their trying to find a cure or making a new world.
I find it insane that the crm was pretty much revealed in this season, obviously not fully, and jadis A and B deal being here too and the fact that went into season 9 and went over my head 😂
Damn when Jadis was talking to Gabriel she was talking about living in "the hidden city" Philadelphia was the city we saw at the end of the world beyond Silas is in that hidden city now and will probably be in the rick movies too as jadis project Jadis actually got what she wanted.. but she got Rick as a prisoner and uses him to rank up in the CRM that deal she was telling Gabriel about Maybe rick pulls off that deal and ranks up fast in the CRM ranks they consider him in Jadis words in world beyond "i gave the CRM something valuable" Rick then will probably end up learning how powerful and ruthless the CRM are he will have to play along with the CRM. Jadis probably told Rick the consequences of trying to leave the CRM they will probably threat his community and family if he trys to escape maybe there are others that want out of the CRM their will probably be a secret rebellion of CRM soldiers trying to escape and expose the CRM for what they've done. Jadis will play a big part in the rick movie. also i wonder if rick will actually get to see that new variant of the runner's that we're teased at the end of world beyond that would mean France Russia Europe could be infected with this variant. it would be awesome to see a new walking dead show Taking place across the globe seeing how people we're dealing with the runner variant imagine seeing The Walking Dead in France with people running zombies and the only way to out run them is through the Roofs and parkour as parkour did originate from France it would be cool
Ok hear me out, imagine fear the walking dead come together with the walking dead and go fight the crm, I’m talking we have the commonwealth army, Alexandria, the kingdom, and Morgan’s group and the rangers
I work in aviation and I've always been surprised that TWD had almost no flying aircraft after the first season. Even left for years in a hangar, an airplane or helicopter collects only a small amount of dust depending on how well the doors are sealed. Surely some of the survivors were pilots, and that there were many aircraft at small or private airports. Aviation fuel (jet fuel and avgas 100LL) can last for years in a proper storage tank, even longer in a sealed underground tank. If TWD were a true story, hearing or seeing an aircraft would not be a very rare occurrence. If a community had a pilot and a mechanic, with access to a plane or helicopter, it would be a great advantage over other people.
Parts and routine maintenance would be a bitch though. Part shortage most definitely. Gonna have to salvage an entire air port for maybe 2 or three planes to fly
in the first clip it shows Jadis putting an "A" on the container which Rick is in but in Rick's last episode where she saves him, she says that "I have a B. not an A I never had an A" ...
@@bens4801 a’s are test subjects used to find a cure, and b’s are people that are eligible to be a part of the civic republic military. b’s can be pilots, scientists, smart people, strong people, etc.
A’s are considered too strong and can be a threat to the CRM. Reason Jadis said that later on… if you watch the Ones Who Live you will Understand better
@@oddgbmo3036 how can that single helicopter be flying for almost months if it was a military helicopter which barely escaped as said by one of the soldiers end up wounded in governer's base?
This is an awesome montage! ❤ The "helicopter people" are extremely organized and specific. They definitely had to of seen Jadis and Negan. Yet without that flare at a specific time. They took off in the bird. 9x03 is interesting Jadis asks over the radio is it you? You doing...now?" She's probably just familiar with a voice. Yet maybe the man was once in the birds and now is doing tech or radio. Jadis saved Rick! ❤ the survivors don't have the tech.
I don't understand why Father Gabriel and Negan didn't say anything about Jadis's trading stuff with the CRM. Could've given them a clue into what happened to Rick
My theory is Nadia got kicked out and needed someone who was strong and a leader to get back in which is why she had negan and then had Rick but she also wanted to save Rick not just use him
It’s the CRM, they have a group in Portland, Nebraska, New York, and who knows where else. The commonwealth is a different group. Rick is in Portland. I’m 100% sure of this after watching episode 16 and ep 1 of TWD and TWDWB
the crm is where the pilots, strong people, smart people, and spies are located in new york. and we also know that omaha is where the campus colony is. that’s a group they’re alliances with. but with portland, i feel like that’s where the civic republic health and welfare facility is, which is where they keep people prisoner until they decide they want to work for them again. i don’t think that rick is in portland, unless he decides he doesn’t want to work for them, but then again i feel like jadis wouldn’t allow them to take him there. rick is eligible to be a soldier for the civic republic military.
@@longtoessss hi Caitlyn I think Rick is key to the cure as his brain was in coma when the space spore ( RK calls it this) infected everyone, he may be immune to the virus so he won’t become a walker from normal cause of death
@@duston8443 That's not what I was saying. Rick in season 8 was an A and that was Jadis possibly not lying. And Jadis *talking to the helicopter people* after she actually knows Rick and she saved her life, she said he was a *B*, that could be for many reasons. Them being; her lying to protect him, or Rick being hurt etc
It's kind of a coincidence that Rick sees the chopper in s8 ep 5 like the chopper people Are telling him soon. Then in s9 ep 5 the chopper people are telling him it's time to go!
fellas the helicopter in the first episode was NOT the CRM, it was just a military helicopter like the one from season 3, if you remember that little military group that crashed near woodbury.
@@thatscrazy6952 there will be but next year due the coronavirus, and you are the one that is an idiot because you have to get some informations before saying something
@@giuseppetelesca5123 I'm not an idiot but at that time when I replied to that message there were no confirmations of s11 coming...but now I am watching it too and still no sign of Rick...
8:40 And now we understand what she meant, thinking he was a B but turning out to be an A: he didn't cave in and become a follower, he stood for what he believed in and resisted
That 8x05 appearance is cool to me, especially during the all out war arc. A giant war between multiple communities and factions made for a lot of world-building, and just when we think we've seen it all, the world just gets even bigger from there. It's amazing how that one little glimpse, beyond the obvious foreshadowing, just makes you think, "Wow. We really have so much more to learn, don't we?"
I think that a good storyline would have been instead of a time jump after rick disappeared, i feel like it wouldve been cool if they tried to constantly look for rick, i know it shows daryl and michonne trying to fine him but we see them as flashbacks,if loads of people started looking and they almost found him or knew where he was ,that wouldve been really interesting. Ik still happy with what they did tho.
Wonder if Negan spared and invited Jadis to join him so he could potentially recruit the helicopter people as well. Like a helicopter and many other things the CRM and Commonwealth possess are luxuries even the Saviors don't have. And Negan clearly believes in strength in numbers. Well that and all the other shit the Scavengers had their hands on.
I think the phones that Rick has are part of a deal he made with Jadis. Jadis must have promised him in the beginning that she'll look in on them (Judith , Michonne, ect) when she can and give him updates if he would just stay wnd heal.
My theory is, the helicopters are the commonwealth or commonwealth equivalent. In the comics Michonne has a daughter named Elodie, Michonne finds Elodie in the commonwealth. In the show Im 80% sure that Michonne does not have a daughter. I’m guessing that Michonne will find Rick instead of Elodie ( Elodie does not exists in the show) in the commonwealth. I think I spelled Michonne wrong
I’m assuming A’s are killed and most likely used as Walkers for testing or something along those lines, and B’s are just people for the community. Or people that could contribute for the community. - I’m pretty sure they probably would’ve killed Anne if she didn’t have anything for them at the end of 9x05 so I’m glad she found Rick because I really enjoy her character. Although she saved his life, I doubt he is going to be thankful that by doing so he is now hundreds of miles away from his Family.
Yup and she said "they are going to save you." in the copter. Still something sinister though because on talking dead a couple weeks ago, for michones last episode, someone askeed what gimple could tell viewers about ricks boots and he said "well, what I can tell you is rick grimes isn't just going to let someone take his boots without a fight". So. We know ricks in trouble. They obviously took them off. Meaning he's in a submissive state. Maybe threatening hurting his family or something.
@@ZalvadorZali I thought a stood for alphas and b stood for betas. I thought her calling Rick a b meant she didn’t see him as a real leader for the people.
Seeing a helicopter in the walking dead is like seeing a real life UFO
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object" so if a country spots a plane or helicopter from another country it would be considered a UFO, it's not only for an alien ship
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@@_Yombo that's not the point here Sherlock
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The way negan reacts to the chopper, he understood the saviors were small compared to what’s out there
are these Helicoptor related to CRM ?
Soulless Senpai these helicopters belong to the crm
@@maxjulian2777 ow...Btw never read comics....How is the Commenwealth and CRM the villains in the next season ??? Can you please explain
Soulless Senpai the crm don’t exist in the comics in the comics there is the commonwealth which is a network of community’s 50,000 people strong this crm are new show only and are clearly military and very strong we don’t know much about them but they don’t sound like nice people, people who get traded to them like what happened with rick they tend to be forced to become soilders all we know about them is they’re very strong have resources have ships and helicopters and that’s it
@@maxjulian2777 damn. I have a feeling Rick will go to eat against them. I also feel like Rick will die in the very last movie of his.
Rick looked at that helicopter as if he’d just seen a dragon fly over him; really shows just how disconnected the survivors have all been from modern technology for so long. Which makes sense, it shows how long this apocalypse has been going on for as well.
Funny enough, from 1-8 seasons, it's only been like 2 or 3 years since the apocalypse, just look at Judith.
He most likely thought he was seeing things cuz in Atlanta when he first met Glenn and them he said he was chasing one and they said he was seeing things
nah he probably thought the saviours have helicopters
@@bunnitomoe3866 she was born season 3, but old is she now?
Time jump I think after rick went out
@@bunnitomoe3866 Season 4-8 is a couple of months. Like 5 months
It's been almost 10yrs and Negan and Gabe have said nothing at all to anyone about the helicopters.
They probably forgot
@@stevenkne lol right...I would think that would be hard to forget.
I mean Negan did hit his head into the wall before when Maggie went to kill him, and Gabriel was sick
@@stevenkne yeah could be a miriat of things maybe when Maggie gets them all to the Commonwealth it will jar they're memory, you know the CRM didn't exist in the comics. I think it just comes down to shitty writing on the show which started later part of season 6 all the way until end of the disastrous seasons 7 & 8 that's why they brought Angela Kang in, she got it back on track partly and she's definitely a better writer but I just sometimes don't like the way she tells the story the flow of it she does some weird and questionable things in that realm.
Who’s gabe ?
The first one is so ominous. No dialogue needed to portray exactly what Rick is feeling in that moment.
I knoww
Its weird that I don't even remember that scene
Also a helicopter appears in the first episode of the first season, or Rick even tries to follow the helicopter, but is prevented by a giant horde of zombies in Atlanta
But it was not a "Helicopter Group"
Gregório Campos not that was the military because at that time the military was still a thing
That was a military helicopter
@@ghostdtx yes and it was taken down by the Governor..
カディスモーン that’s in season 3, different helicopter.
This group is so interesting, I feel like they’re building what rick always wanted now just towns here and there but an entire trade route throughout the US and actually gov, economy, etc
@Pragyan Chetia they aren't bad
@@DelRico2x You call them because they are trying to find a cure in the best ways?
@@DelRico2x They kill everyone they meet so risk of being found is impossible.
@@Wikchsawa i saw them experimenting on people
Trying to find a cure but its like a maze runner thing sacrificing people to see if a cure can be made
Agriculture
They still got more screen time than T dog
R.I.P T Dog 😭
T Dog had potential but he was just that character who gave funny one liners
@@auser6789 I’m re-watching the show now, and T-dog didn’t have any kind of character development. He was just there. He died. That’s it
@@303ThatoneguyHe didn't need to. He was a good man. And the good ones always get taken early.
@@303Thatoneguyit’s cause he was always late to the studio 😔
0:55 Marks Rick as an 'A'. The Ones Who Live elaborates that CRM categorizes cosignee's into two letters, A's and B's. Nice attention to detail by the writers.
after watching The Ones Who Live episode 1, the A or B’s make so much sense now
real
the twdexplained channel in an older video mentioned that they took Heath an A.. im wondering how and what they've done to him.
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Lol Heath
It's ridiculous that he is even still brought up.
I hope they don't do something stupid and bring him back
A's - leaders, strong, principled
= ALPHA's
B's - followers, will assimilate, follow orders
= BETA's
@@sang_from_rushhour3009heath isnot an A lol
Gabe and Negan know about the helicopter people and STILL haven't told anyone?
Maybe when Eugene talks about the radio people, Gabriel will mention the helicopter people.
Negan knows about the helicopter too
i mean what is there to say?? people are just gonna think theyre making it up. gabe never saw a helicopter, he just heard other people in jadis’ radio call. Rick has seen it but hes prob persuaded himself that hes seeing things that are not there at times. and Negan was focused on fighting the militia, and has been locked up for most of the time, i mean not everyone would take them serious, so until a lot of people actually see that there is some type of government military that is still alive then theyll all fall in line.
@@rimatlg619 helicopters aren't that unlikely though. They still got cars moving around
Maybe they'll disclose about the birds soon. It's such an interesting plotline.
We basically can say this story has hinted at the entire series. Right from the first episode. Yes it could be just something they had in the episode that led Rick into the horde in Atlanta but it's the perfect opportunity to write that it was the CRM which is a fantastic tie in. I'm very excited to see the Rick and Michonne Spin off
The first helicopter was the military, the governor took out the helicopter in season 3.
It was the set up for woodbury.
@@ciarajones4970 the season 3 helicopter bears no resemblance to the seasons 1-2 helicopter.
@@ciarajones4970 CRM theory makes sense
I love how the song that played In the first episode plays, it shows that the helicopter he saw in the first episode “finally lands” to save rick. He also says I found them when the bridge blew up and he said in the 2nd episode when they were in Atlanta that he was just a man looking for his family. He means that Daryl, micchone, and all the others are his family.
Space Junk is the song ❤
the first time he said this, he was talking about Lori & Carl. even tho his wife & son aren't anymore alive, they're the reason that he kept fighting to be alive, because he wanted to find them.
That’s not the same helicopter that’s here now. And it’s confirmed
that's not the same helicopter
@@jared1x78 we know it's not *actually* the same helicopter, they're saying it symbolically
I feel like the final battle of TWD universe will be against CRM where all shows cross over
Commonwealth vs CRM
Commonwealth + Rick's Group + FTWD vs CRM
@ᏔHY SO SEᎡIOUS !!! The commonwealth is a large advanced group that will be introduced in season 11 of TWD. Those military men you see at the end of the s10 finale are soldiers from the commonwealth.
The CRM is the civic republic military. They are a part of the Alliance of Three: Omaha Nebraska , Portland Oregon , and the CRM itself. You get a glimpse of who the crm are in TWD world beyond. They have Rick , but no one knows what theyve been up to.
Land dat choppa 🙌 jadis kin 2 elizbeth huck isabelle n
I hope the CRM wins then
I sometimes like to think how cool it would of been to see the CRM introduced earlier into TWD and see how they react to groups like the savours and whispers. And see them react to the commonwealth
@@amon8579 are you serious? The crm would crush the whisperers. They have a active military after the world fell apart so no groups are a threat.
"savours"? lol
Same
Well there were the helicopters Rick saw in season 1, as well as the helicopter which causes the herd at the farm.
@@xavierburger494 not the CRM. That was cleared a couple of seasons later.
So there is an enclave in the walking dead after all.
War, war never changes.
Omg dude well said
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Credit to fallout series especially fallout New vegas
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Wouldn't be a suprise if they made the walker virus. Their goal was to destroy the world's governments and unite everyone under one rule and one nation.
@@_MaZTeR_ Author of TWD said the virus is extraterrestrial so no it's not made by humans
wakes up from a coma = zombie outbreak, wakes up from injuries = helicopter , wakes up from coma 2 = becoming a slave to the crm 😂😂
dude you were right
You are right 😅
How did you know this?
lmao
@@blackmambo8702he’s him
At 2:15 if you look at the lid of the can you'll see the CRM symbol on it I just noticed this it's amazing at what Easter Eggs you find in certain TV Shows, Movies, and Video Games
What a great way to refresh our memories in how the CRM comes together 😀 and how the CRM connects to Jadis
I think Negan and Gab never talked about this because they understood how big and powerful this community could be. It wasn’t about finding a community anymore but keep yours safe and discreet…
This explains the Commonwealth arc, a lot of our characters didn’t want to stay there, they just asked for help
Imagine how fucked up it would be to see a Passenger Jumbo jet, for all you know the world's still normal and your area is the only one hit with the plague
CRM is a secret division of US government right?
That's a reveal in 28 days later, I think, the soldier says it's contained and quarantined to Great Britain.
08x05 is far by my favorite appearance of the CRM in hindsight of everything we know currently. Truly a WTF moment at the time of airing. Even better after after we know Rick ultimately ends up in one.
You're here after watching the show as well huh ... " We're the ones who live "
even better now
The helicopter group in season 1 is the same as in season 3. They are just military. But in season 8/9 it is something much much greater.
I can't wait to see Rick with Jadis, Heath and Isabella in the movies! Jadis being a super interesting character, Heath being one of my favourite comic character and Isabella with her mystery!
who was Isabella?
Saqib Alam a crm character that was in fear the walking dead
Movies?
@@SirAuron777 no there’s gonna be another spinoff with Rick Michonne Jadis and other characters from TWD Beyond
@@Fettikun thanks for the info
I just realised when she put rick in the container she wrote A on it, how can she say Rick was an A when they actually got in the helicopter the next season she said he was a B?
because when he was an A he was a healthy human but when she said he was a B he was clearly injured
Jake why should that affect anything as after a few weeks he would be recovered and would be an A again ?
iLTx because the group he got sent too is 50,000 members strong. If he was healthy he could join as a soldier straight away. However he wasn’t healthy so they needed too use supplies on rick too get him back too good health (too become a soldier). And I think that’s why the person on the radio said ‘there will be consequences’.
Maybe A means foe and B means friend
Lucas Chang you mean foe or friend to jadis, it wouldn’t be relevant to the colony she sent them to as they don’t know the person so how could they be a friend or enemy of the colony ?
I wonder what the original plan with the helicopter was, afterall it’s first appearance was in the first half of season 8 which I don’t think was around the time Andrew asked to leave the showcase, it seemed like they had something different planned for these helicopter people instead of having them set up the Rick grime movies.
Long ling Gruesome
There were reports that Andrew Lincoln & Scott Gimple had discussions about Rick’s eventual end on the tv show, starting way back in Season 4 when the group was still @ the prison. Jadis was introduced way back in S7 E10 “New Best Friends.” The Season 8 finale was supposed to be Rick’s last episode but Andy wasn’t 💯 on leaving then bc he and the writers still had a lot of set up for his exit. I think that’s why he was around until 9x05. He had fully intended for his grand farewell being in S8 but when the time came to actually announce that he was leaving at San Diego Comic Con in 2017, he said that he just wasn’t ready.
Α helicopter is shown as well in the 1st episode of TWD when Rick was in Atlanta. Probably it belonged to the same community/army.
@@matzis1182 probably not
The helicopters first appearance was in the first episode, that helicopter is the same engine type then these ones, not the helicopter from Season 3 that The Governor shot down, they're different.
@@antoniokranjcevic6093 No its not probably not, it literally is the same helicopter...
I like how when Rick and Neegan see the helicopter, their reactions are as if they feel very small and there is something big going on out there.
Pretty sure
B - means person ready to obey order/person would work for them/ soldier/guard
You were right 🎉
Spot on bruh
Right on spot dude.
The helicopter from season 1 was the military. The governor took down one of their helicopters in season 3.
You seriously need alot of people and equiptment to maintain a helicopter. Technicians, mechanics, maybe chemists who can make fuel and such.
They have 200,000 people
Not just one chopper, and a crashed plane too.
And that's exactly what the CRM has!!
Yea negan and gabriel not saying anything is a big plot hole!
Maybe michonne will find something of Rick's on that island she's going to and the helicopters will be mentioned, then she'll tell the group, and that's when gabe will tell what he knows.
@@scooby5242 That would be cool.
It's not a plot hole, It just doesn't stands as something important while you're on war or improving your people's life... I mean, they were supposed to follow the helicopter by foot?
Imperial Alex
I’m sorry, but your explanation is quite flawed. It is definitely a plot hole. 6 years went by without a war, yet Gabriel or Negan didn’t mention it, plus no, of course they wouldn’t go for it on foot, but it’s still a major detail to leave out.
@@FNhub Gabriel promised not to say anything, Negan didn't know what was all about and he just wanted to be back at Samctuary to face Simon, right after the war, he had his throat sliced, so it might ve easy to forget after all that time, even more considering anyone would trust Negan at that point
The Helo that Rick saw in S1E1 that might be the CRM the whole time.
Ricks reaction to the helicopter is the best. That right there changed everything for him that’s a huge wtf. He’s come across tanks other vehicles but a fuckin HELICOPTER THATS DIFFERENT THE AMOUNT OF GROUND YOU CAN COVER AND SEE WHATS GOING ON. All he knew was the little surronding areas him and his crew has come across
Who's here now that "The One's Who Live" is finally out to give us all the answers to questions we had in this video?
🙋♀️so much sussspenseeee
All that build-up and they got destroyed in a single TOWL episode.
When you think back to season 3 that even that many years back a group who had an helicopter was unbelievable the reactions really were realistic for them seeing one in season 8 and later
So all this time Negan saw a helicopter and didn't think to tell anybody... OR GABRIEL?! Dude knew she was going to trade him or rick and suddenly ricks body was never found, jadis gone with him 😂
The helicopter has been there since season 1
That's a normal helicopter like in season 3
@@oh02No it's has the crm symbol
Is it just me or the canned food that Jadis opened at 2:11 has the CRM logo on it?
It is remember the fact that they used to trade people for resources
@@porco_germe0v451 But since then, Jadis never mentioned the CRM. We only knew that it was indeed the CRM bc of the logo. And the fact that CRM was introduced after the season 9.
Good eye!
@The Prodigy it did! On the opened lid! Likely supplies she has traded for. The labels are gone, yet the box containing them is labeled 'applesauce'
It does. As they stated she has been compensated
I hope they bring her back sometime so we can find out more what happened. But I guess she's with Rick. Maybe season 11 we'll see her again.
I think she will be in the first Rick movie.
Maybe Michonne sees her at Virgils base? Where she is going now.
@@brownieboi1691 probably not but Rick could of been there before and Virgil might know Rick and when Michonne brings up Rick he could probably tell her that he's still alive
wait for the third new series of the walking dead
Jadis will be in the movie 👍
I really enjoyed her character.
And somehow Jadis became a warrant officer in the CRM, that was a fast track
wow this audio torpedoes thru my ear drums
I wonder why Rick never mentioned the helicopter to anyone.
Ira New I think he thought he was hallucinating
SlateOsprey do you even watch the show
SlateOsprey because he left the show and flew off in the helicopter and Jadis and made deals with them.
@@randomytgamer1587
He's talking about when Rick saw the helicopter back in season 8
One of the things that annoys me about the show is when characters keep important information like that to themselves. What could have been more natural than to tell everyone: "OMG I just saw a helicopter!"
For it all to mean nothing in the end.. LMAO
Crm will proli be Daryl Dixon
I think A symbol means, a person that is about to turn (probably for test) considering she was trying to make Negan turn. And B is probably a worthy person to be part of government and have great survival skill. And will be sent out there somehere just like what happened to her?
Jadis maintained an informal relationship with the CRM, but you're right anyone who is designated a 'B' will likely be spared from experimentation and instead be put to work under the CRM to carry out its operations across the world. Rick will likely become a Soldier or something similar in exchange for them having saved his life, although it is quite obvious that Rick will go on to discover the CRM has nefarious intentions and are committing what would have been considered war crimes in an effort to survive and find a way to either control or cope with the virus. But since this group is obviously well off compared to everyone else they are secretive, and efficient at keeping things under wraps. Perhaps if Rick tried to escape the CRM would wipe out his Community and people - so knowing that Rick has little choice but to remain in league with the CRM. Although I'm sure it's a safe bet that eventually Rick will escape and take on the CRM at some point however it's going to be their biggest challenge yet after the Whisperer war. Which would make sense for the survivor's final big threat to conquer before the TV Series ends.
Now we know A is leader B follower.
I know that this new goverment or new order still working under control, they past around the U.S searching for important survivors, like doctors or people that can handle a gun pretty good, so in my opinion their is a country or a special group out their trying to find a cure or making a new world.
I find it insane that the crm was pretty much revealed in this season, obviously not fully, and jadis A and B deal being here too and the fact that went into season 9 and went over my head 😂
Damn when Jadis was talking to Gabriel she was talking about living in "the hidden city" Philadelphia was the city we saw at the end of the world beyond Silas is in that hidden city now and will probably be in the rick movies too as jadis project Jadis actually got what she wanted.. but she got Rick as a prisoner and uses him to rank up in the CRM that deal she was telling Gabriel about Maybe rick pulls off that deal and ranks up fast in the CRM ranks they consider him in Jadis words in world beyond "i gave the CRM something valuable" Rick then will probably end up learning how powerful and ruthless the CRM are he will have to play along with the CRM. Jadis probably told Rick the consequences of trying to leave the CRM they will probably threat his community and family if he trys to escape maybe there are others that want out of the CRM their will probably be a secret rebellion of CRM soldiers trying to escape and expose the CRM for what they've done. Jadis will play a big part in the rick movie. also i wonder if rick will actually get to see that new variant of the runner's that we're teased at the end of world beyond that would mean France Russia Europe could be infected with this variant. it would be awesome to see a new walking dead show Taking place across the globe seeing how people we're dealing with the runner variant imagine seeing The Walking Dead in France with people running zombies and the only way to out run them is through the Roofs and parkour as parkour did originate from France it would be cool
Ok hear me out, imagine fear the walking dead come together with the walking dead and go fight the crm, I’m talking we have the commonwealth army, Alexandria, the kingdom, and Morgan’s group and the rangers
Do you think Jadis is the one who drew the pic of Michonne and Judith on the phone screen?
@@citizendame6329 i think she did to tell rick not to lose hope
Interesting.. now Daryl will have his own spinoff which is supposed to take place in France..
Bro, you figured out the plot before it even happened 😂
I work in aviation and I've always been surprised that TWD had almost no flying aircraft after the first season. Even left for years in a hangar, an airplane or helicopter collects only a small amount of dust depending on how well the doors are sealed. Surely some of the survivors were pilots, and that there were many aircraft at small or private airports. Aviation fuel (jet fuel and avgas 100LL) can last for years in a proper storage tank, even longer in a sealed underground tank. If TWD were a true story, hearing or seeing an aircraft would not be a very rare occurrence. If a community had a pilot and a mechanic, with access to a plane or helicopter, it would be a great advantage over other people.
Parts and routine maintenance would be a bitch though. Part shortage most definitely. Gonna have to salvage an entire air port for maybe 2 or three planes to fly
FTWD has an aircraft and portrays aviation fuel being used.
Yea until the CRM shoot it down with an apache or jet
in the first clip it shows Jadis putting an "A" on the container which Rick is in but in Rick's last episode where she saves him, she says that "I have a B. not an A I never had an A" ...
Any idea what that means? Haven't really followed the show in a while
@@bens4801 a’s are test subjects used to find a cure, and b’s are people that are eligible to be a part of the civic republic military. b’s can be pilots, scientists, smart people, strong people, etc.
also spies
A’s are considered too strong and can be a threat to the CRM. Reason Jadis said that later on… if you watch the Ones Who Live you will
Understand better
*The first appearance of a CRM Helicopter was in the first episode. Rick heard it, and saw the reflection of it on a building*
That was most likely the military helicopter the governor tracked down and killed their group for supplies
@@oddgbmo3036 how can that single helicopter be flying for almost months if it was a military helicopter which barely escaped as said by one of the soldiers end up wounded in governer's base?
@@hjskaslhgdsd they had supplies with them, fuel.
After finally watching the one who lives, it seems Rick saw the CRM since the first season
Do people forget about the first season when rick was riding the horse in Atlanta and saw the heli?
It's an "Army Helicopter" - watch a final episode of season two, and episode when Governor first appearance) 😉
@@met4l_storm569 i think they're different choppers
@@timos5850 maybe, maybe) 👀
@@met4l_storm569 so your saying that the military heli was flying for months and got took down by governer?
This is an awesome montage! ❤ The "helicopter people" are extremely organized and specific. They definitely had to of seen Jadis and Negan. Yet without that flare at a specific time. They took off in the bird.
9x03 is interesting Jadis asks over the radio is it you? You doing...now?" She's probably just familiar with a voice. Yet maybe the man was once in the birds and now is doing tech or radio.
Jadis saved Rick! ❤ the survivors don't have the tech.
how the helicopter event feels when you're in zomboid
I don't understand why Father Gabriel and Negan didn't say anything about Jadis's trading stuff with the CRM. Could've given them a clue into what happened to Rick
They still would’ve never known what happened to him , because jadis took rick before anyone spotted them or the helicopter.
My theory is Nadia got kicked out and needed someone who was strong and a leader to get back in which is why she had negan and then had Rick but she also wanted to save Rick not just use him
Judis
she got kicked because she cheated on call of duty
Imagine if the CRM was just the chopper. Just 3 survivors travelling around this small area, harassing survivors cuz "we gotta damn choppa!!!!"
It’s the CRM, they have a group in Portland, Nebraska, New York, and who knows where else. The commonwealth is a different group. Rick is in Portland. I’m 100% sure of this after watching episode 16 and ep 1 of TWD and TWDWB
the crm is where the pilots, strong people, smart people, and spies are located in new york. and we also know that omaha is where the campus colony is. that’s a group they’re alliances with. but with portland, i feel like that’s where the civic republic health and welfare facility is, which is where they keep people prisoner until they decide they want to work for them again. i don’t think that rick is in portland, unless he decides he doesn’t want to work for them, but then again i feel like jadis wouldn’t allow them to take him there. rick is eligible to be a soldier for the civic republic military.
@@longtoessss hi Caitlyn I think Rick is key to the cure as his brain was in coma when the space spore ( RK calls it this) infected everyone, he may be immune to the virus so he won’t become a walker from normal cause of death
The last one still makes me cry
This is mind blowing after watching TWD The ones who live
0:10 when a primitive age spore creature sees a space age creature
I find it very interesting that the song at the end of the video was the same song that played at the end of the first episode of the first season.
I never saw a heli in the second one
helicopter group*
Yeah its about the helicopter group's appearance, the letter "A" is apart of them. Jadis was going to sell Rick to them. He was an A.
@@brownieboi1691 he was a B
@@duston8443 That's not what I was saying. Rick in season 8 was an A and that was Jadis possibly not lying. And Jadis *talking to the helicopter people* after she actually knows Rick and she saved her life, she said he was a *B*, that could be for many reasons. Them being; her lying to protect him, or Rick being hurt etc
@@duston8443 Just saying A and B are apart of the helicopter peoples idea.
The walking fallout: enclave
Lol that sounds accurate! I love the Fallout series!
The Marching Sneedclave.
This needs to be updated with the scene from the last episode
Ladies and gentlemen I present to you the
Civil Republic Military
It's kind of a coincidence that Rick sees the chopper in s8 ep 5 like the chopper people
Are telling him soon. Then in s9 ep 5 the chopper people are telling him it's time to go!
Something that really got me was, she put “A” on his crate. If ya’ll seen the ones who live, it explains it there.
On the canned food it has the CRM symbol
Wild looking back now and seeing all the easter eggs in our faces but didn’t think much of it
Should have included the Fear TWD ones as well
Yes, i thought they would have.
That would literally be entire episodes though because of isabella.
fellas the helicopter in the first episode was NOT the CRM, it was just a military helicopter like the one from season 3, if you remember that little military group that crashed near woodbury.
rick gets airlifted from the jungles of vietnam
Nice upload.
Well they certainly struck gold finding Rick. Can’t wait to see what happens and who they are 🚁
Oh so that’s what that was…
Wow. 🤯💥
İf rick sees a chopper that means there is going to be a big thing
HE'S BACK AND DOESN'T EVEN HAVE HIS SHOES. HOW HARD IS RICK STILL? SO EXCITED.
Two seasons later and we still don’t know what those Helicopters are about hopefully by season 11 or the Rick movie we finally find out .
There will be no s11 idiot
@@thatscrazy6952 there will be but next year due the coronavirus, and you are the one that is an idiot because you have to get some informations before saying something
Watch ftwd and twd world beyond
There is a clue about CRM(helicopter who save rick)
@@steverogers5049 yes I'm watching it too..I have watched ep3 and still no sign of Rick..
@@giuseppetelesca5123 I'm not an idiot but at that time when I replied to that message there were no confirmations of s11 coming...but now I am watching it too and still no sign of Rick...
These pixel errors on the right in S09E03 made me think my display is broken 😂😅
Thanks for the video, I couldn't remember most of it lol
She was giving helicpter ppl other ppl..when did she meet them..
“The truth is that Rick Grimes could’ve have done it without me.” - The CRM
Man, he sees it in season 8 and it takes him in 9
8:40 And now we understand what she meant, thinking he was a B but turning out to be an A: he didn't cave in and become a follower, he stood for what he believed in and resisted
I miss Rick 💔💔💔
Me too 😭😭😭
Same. He will be back bro ;)
He is already 🔥
@@apocolex93 umm im sorry but he won't
@@Storm-gc5yi yes he will.It will be a Rick Grimes movie and then I think he will be back in de twd
All the way back to season 8, it was all planned to be set out like it is now. Amazing.
Dammit now I gotta start watching this show again
A helicopter in this context is pretty much a dragon
I wanna know how she met these people
CoryJ327 well they had to have met once like they didn’t just pop up randomly like I wanna know why they even had a deal in the first place
Yes i want to know how she met them..she was giving them ppl..
She's one of them just like a wardog from wakanda like a infiltrator on Spi send to gather resources
I think she's from where they are from, but she was outcast or something for some reason.
@@scooby5242 so why did they her come back then
That 8x05 appearance is cool to me, especially during the all out war arc. A giant war between multiple communities and factions made for a lot of world-building, and just when we think we've seen it all, the world just gets even bigger from there. It's amazing how that one little glimpse, beyond the obvious foreshadowing, just makes you think, "Wow. We really have so much more to learn, don't we?"
I think that a good storyline would have been instead of a time jump after rick disappeared, i feel like it wouldve been cool if they tried to constantly look for rick, i know it shows daryl and michonne trying to fine him but we see them as flashbacks,if loads of people started looking and they almost found him or knew where he was ,that wouldve been really interesting. Ik still happy with what they did tho.
you forgot about the scene in the very first episode when rick wonders in the city and glares up to the passing helicopter
That wasn’t crm, it was the helicopter the governor found in season 3
Wonder if Negan spared and invited Jadis to join him so he could potentially recruit the helicopter people as well. Like a helicopter and many other things the CRM and Commonwealth possess are luxuries even the Saviors don't have. And Negan clearly believes in strength in numbers. Well that and all the other shit the Scavengers had their hands on.
If Jadis Had a relation with CRM why the hell didn't she use them against the saviors
16 episodes later, rick...
I think the phones that Rick has are part of a deal he made with Jadis.
Jadis must have promised him in the beginning that she'll look in on them (Judith , Michonne, ect) when she can and give him updates if he would just stay wnd heal.
My theory is, the helicopters are the commonwealth or commonwealth equivalent. In the comics Michonne has a daughter named Elodie, Michonne finds Elodie in the commonwealth. In the show Im 80% sure that Michonne does not have a daughter. I’m guessing that Michonne will find Rick instead of Elodie ( Elodie does not exists in the show) in the commonwealth.
I think I spelled Michonne wrong
Isn't Rick dead ??
He disappeared on a magical helicopter
Michonne and Rick will never return to the show so it will happen in the movies
Riley_The_Normal_Human_Being nope they’re doing the commonwealth story in the story
well you were dead wrong
I’m assuming A’s are killed and most likely used as Walkers for testing or something along those lines, and B’s are just people for the community. Or people that could contribute for the community.
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I’m pretty sure they probably would’ve killed Anne if she didn’t have anything for them at the end of 9x05 so I’m glad she found Rick because I really enjoy her character. Although she saved his life, I doubt he is going to be thankful that by doing so he is now hundreds of miles away from his Family.
Yup and she said "they are going to save you." in the copter. Still something sinister though because on talking dead a couple weeks ago, for michones last episode, someone askeed what gimple could tell viewers about ricks boots and he said "well, what I can tell you is rick grimes isn't just going to let someone take his boots without a fight". So. We know ricks in trouble. They obviously took them off. Meaning he's in a submissive state. Maybe threatening hurting his family or something.
SPOILER ALERT:
A are bitten taken to CRM lab to research the outbreak
@@ZalvadorZali I thought a stood for alphas and b stood for betas. I thought her calling Rick a b meant she didn’t see him as a real leader for the people.
You were right
After a few years In a zombie Apocalypse ima think anything is possible
After seeing the first episode of the ones who live...oh my God, the dots that are connecting!!! this is gonna be a great show!!!
difference is, in the comic i think the commonwealth didnt have helicopters