1:10:20 How do you distinguish healthy dopamine sources from pathological ones, particularly how can we prevent ourselves from falling into the trap of another drug while having a fast for a different one? ANSWER: SITTING WITH THAT PAINFUL URGE and watching it pass over for you, you know no longer trying to run away from those feelings, but actually learning to sit with them very hard; doing it with another person, sharing that experience so you're not so alone in that suffering. And then actually literally turning toward the pain and maybe even welcoming it in your life. And then INTENTIONALLY DOING THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT as a way to get sort of dopamine indirectly and reset reward pathways faster, because we know that that's what HORMESIS will do. And then, going forward as we in recovery, try to find well what are the healthy pleasures. I think again anything that's sort of, "I don't necessarily want to do it but after I've done it I feel better," and also anything that contributes to a sense of deeper meaning or purpose in our lives. [ I like the distraction of doing something difficult, rather than just sitting with the painful urge ]
29:23 "abstinence doesn't work" you might not be able to do away with the things you mentioned but according to Dr. Lembke in her book Dopamine Nation, "recovery begins with abstinence." Im surprised she didn't push back against that in this conversation.
Love Dr. Lembke
Amazing conversation
1:10:20 How do you distinguish healthy dopamine sources from pathological ones, particularly how can we prevent ourselves from falling into the trap of another drug while having a fast for a different one?
ANSWER: SITTING WITH THAT PAINFUL URGE and watching it pass over for you, you know no longer trying to run away from those feelings, but actually learning to sit with them very hard; doing it with another person, sharing that experience so you're not so alone in that suffering. And then actually literally turning toward the pain and maybe even welcoming it in your life. And then INTENTIONALLY DOING THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT as a way to get sort of dopamine indirectly and reset reward pathways faster, because we know that that's what HORMESIS will do. And then, going forward as we in recovery, try to find well what are the healthy pleasures. I think again anything that's sort of, "I don't necessarily want to do it but after I've done it I feel better," and also anything that contributes to a sense of deeper meaning or purpose in our lives.
[ I like the distraction of doing something difficult, rather than just sitting with the painful urge ]
29:23 "abstinence doesn't work" you might not be able to do away with the things you mentioned but according to Dr. Lembke in her book Dopamine Nation, "recovery begins with abstinence." Im surprised she didn't push back against that in this conversation.
Abstinence has worked for me for 29 years and I'm living the life of my dreams. Why do you think it doesn't work?
Dr Anna is like the incredible hulk of this stuff. She's only missing the green and giant muscles
Too bad she had to bring up climate change. Just because she’s an expert in one area, she shouldn’t comment on everything.