VW Id.7 Pro - 110 km/h range test in Winter conditions
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Rear fog lights are only allowed, if you have less than 50m visibility, which also means, you are only allowed to drive max. 50 kph
Outside built up areas the limit for using rear fog lights is 200 meters visibility, at least in the Netherlands. Inside built up areas it is indeed 50 meters visibility.
@@ronaldderooij1774In any case it should be turned off as soon as someone is closer than 50m behind you… pretty annoying when ppl forget to turn it off in closer traffic… 😅
@@ronaldderooij1774 nope, less than 200meter you're allowed to use the fog lights in the front, the rest fog light(s) only by less than 50m. "Bij minder dan 200 meter zicht, oftewel dichte mist, mogen de mistlampen aan de voorzijde aangezet worden. Voor het mistachterlicht geldt dat je deze alleen bij zeer dichte mist mag voeren. Het zicht bedraagt dan minder dan 50 meter. "
Any in any case, visibility was more than 200m so no fog lights allowed at all
If it is that foggy and people are driving by with 150 km/h I rather be seen earlier and safe than follow a rule
No. No.
People are comparing winter consumption with summer values on other cars. 19 kWh/100km in winter at 110km/h average speed is excellent. With a usable battery of 77 kWh, that's 400 km range, and the car charges great for a 400V system. If you want better battery performance, you have to buy the Mercedes eqs, but that car costs twice as much.
Or you can buy a tesla which is cheaper, better range, better consumption, better performance, better infotaiment, all round better car. Next time i won‘t choose a vw (i have id4 gtx) in front of a tesla. Check bjorn videos where teslas performs way better then the rest.
Vw wants a tone of money buy they don‘t offer a 100kwh battery nor quality from merc norhigh efficiency.
@@cristianmihai1744 too many issues with Tesla so won't be my car. It is cheap and kind of prototype of a car. Also Musk while being brilliant on one side is making idiotic product decisions like Yoke, no stalks etc. If one is OK with all that then you still get a lot of 'features' with Tesla.
@@mho0 yoke will be steer by wire, just like in lexus which is brilliant. I like tesla cuz they don‘t try taking every cent from costumer. Look at id7 in germany, by leasing they‘re asking more then 7% interest, tesla come with 6,% and sometimes offers like 2% interest.
@@cristianmihai1744remains to be seen how steer by wire will work ... sounds like potentially horrible feel in steering wheel, but lets see. So it may improve the situation or make idiotic decision even worse.
@@cristianmihai1744I agree tesla is great in many aspects, especially model 3 highland, but except for range, the ID7 is the better car. Maybe it just depends on priorities, but m3 is not very practical without a hatch and in terms of comfort it's just catching up
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Well this is already somewhat decent for a car without heat-pump. Really interested to see the summer results.
Isn't this a bit like trying to find the good in a car that has terrible aerodynamics and claiming that it's not too inefficient... considering its terrible aerodynamics? What possible excuse do VW have for not fitting a heat pump as standard to a car at this price point?
@@rickwookie What terrible aerodynamics? I do agree that VW should just have the heat pump in every ID7, but it is due to the good aerodynamics that this model s sized (length,weight and frontal area) car has such a decent efficiency.
I was giving an example of equivalence. Why are people making excuses for VW's poor design choice not to include a heat pump as standard? Its efficiency is incredibly underwhelming, and this is one of the reasons. @@pauli2753
@@rickwookie That is wierd, it comes with a heat pump as standard in my country
@@JesperHolmgaard Yes, heat pump is a standard piece of equipment in "cold climates" like Finland. You cannot get an ID model WITHOUT a heat pump here.
388 km without heatpump. Totally fine for such a big car at this speed. Do not understand why VW sell them without it. -Yes, summer test will be interesting!
How is the difference for Mercedes EQS without heatpump and the new generation with heatpump?
I believe it is on the options list
Because for example me, living in Spain, have absolutely no need for a heat pump
@KristijanVragovic88 Because when this car was ordered, VW in their genius could not deliver a car with a heat pump. Logistics, logistics. Used to be a strong point for VW. Used to be ...
@@rj7855Doesn't it also help with cabin cooling?
New UX is a big improvement.
In Denmark you cant spec the ID 7 without heatpump… Nice video - waiting for the Stationcar 😊
Same in germany
@@hlbwlt4867 ??? Did you watched this video? The ID7 is wothout HP.
@@Chaser2kahh hehe overlooked the „t“ in „cant“ 😅
Not bad at that temperature around 0, with winter tyres and no heat pump. Curious to see what it can do in spring.
Didn’t seem very winterish to me. Welcome to Finland to experience real winter ❄️ 😁
Thought the same 🙃
-26 this morning in northern Sweden. A month ago -38 degrees.
I really like these style (and the ones done by Out of Spec Reviews) of loop tests in different contitions and Bjorn Nylands 1000km challenges to see EVs used in real eorld scenarios rather than wildly inaccurate EPA/WLTP range estimates.
My goal is to find an EV that can drive for 3 hours at 120km/h and then charge that amount of distance in 15 minutes and be decently affordable and practical. Until then I'm sticking with my PHEV. The E-GMP cars are getting close, so maybe when I'm ready to replace my 2021 in a few years it will be a stat that is available in lots of models.
I think BMW neue klasse and mercedes cla in 2025 will have those specs... they're both on my radar as I also want 400km+ highway real range
@@noproblem386 Unfortunately, those will likely be more expensive than my house and not eligible for rebates in my area. I already consider things like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 as an expensive car.
The id7 isn't far off. 360km in summer and you can recharge 200km additional range in 12 minutes. Most of the time you are stuck in traffic or construction on part of the trip anyway, so you usually only get 100km/h average. Driving more than 600km a day only happens on vacation for most people, and then you have time.
My Enyaq showed 357 km at 100 % with the 52 kWh battery, so WLTP is totally on point! Maybe you use your car wrong. 😇
@@Psi-Storm I would consider 200km in 12 minutes to be not only far off but miles off target. Even the E-GMP cars can get 10 to 80 in 18 minutes and are epa rated to like 430 km, so 70% of that is only 301km... And that's only at the slow EPA speeds, not 120km/h so it's even worse.
I always drive with my ligths on, regardless of the weather conditions...it's not to see, it's to be seen! Especially by pedestrians. It's much easier to interpret speed of an object with lights on. It's also the true reason why Scandinavian countries have such a good score on traffic safety numbers, they obligated car makers to always have the lights on ;-).
I like that car it´s a beauty.
No heat pump in Europe, pretty big omission since the base price is quite high. In North America no heat pump as basic equipment will be a problem especially in Canada.
I can get it, but I didn't
I guess thats good for a car without a heatpump. But i did a journey with my family yesterday. 200km -2 to -7 degrees celcius, highway almost all the way and 22 degrees set in the car with comfort mode on. It was set and snowing or driving on snowy roads. Arrived with 40% left and left with 90%, consumption was about 18-19 so basically i would have the same range or longer but with my id 4 wich is far less aerodynamic.
You can't compare if you don't have the same AVG speed 😉
rear fog light should only be used when you have less then 100mtr visibility.
so you rather have me not seen and be in danger to follow a rule?
@@BatteryLife When visibility is more then a 100 mtr the rear foglight is annoying to others, and also difficult to distinguish from brake lights. I think under those circumstances it causes more danger.
Bitte nicht mit Nebelschlussleuchte rumfahren, wenn die Sicht über 50 Meter ist und man schneller wie 50 km/h fährt!
Ich wünsche mir echt eine automatische Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung beim Einschalten der Nebelschlussleuchte - aber dann stünden im Herbst wahrscheinlich reihenweise Trottel vor der Werkstatt "Mein Auto fährt nur noch 50, da ist was kaputt"
Wenn es so nebelig ist und mich andere Verkehrsteilnehmer früher sehen, wenn sie mit 150 kmh vorbeifahren, dann ist mir meine Sicherheit wichtiger
wie eine Regel.
Here we have idiots that drive with their high beams and fog lights on when it’s just dark, in the city, no fog.
What’s the battery size?
77 kWh usable.
There is only the 77 kWh battery this year.
I think your “Guess-O-Meter” is still leaning your driving behavior. I remember when I got my ID.3 it was also guessing too much.
If you set long term consumption to 0 it resets also the "guess-o-meter". (With ME3.0) So maybe it changed now
Why still that silly cover for ccs. BMW knows the job. Using a spring mecanism.
So no more news about ID3 😢
Sorry, no
Driving in the fog. Aren't you suppose to turn on fog lights ONLY when visibility is below 100 metres? And turn them off when visibility is better, to avoid duzzling other drivers? At least these are the rules in the UK. (and we do know thing or two about fog :) )
It's a great looking car !
But is it just me (as a web-developer) that thinks the whole design of the infotainment look like somehting from the 90's ?
The gradient bars, the icons and the blue gradient background...
90´s are great. Best decade ever.
hehe fair point @@Chaser2k
I would like you to drive a city run.
Здравеите, през зимата A/C трябва ли да е включено непрекъснато?
Hi. Please tell somebody from VW, that would be to have on big display in te middle one small "kachel" with total driven distance of car. I am missing this info in ID models.
It is in the trip data
Those people driving with their lights off must be Americans because that’s what a LOT of people do here in Texas so often.
My VW CC 2.0tdi DSG 230bhp stage 2 diesel on 70 L can do 1500Km driving motorways at around 120-140 sustained. One thing is clear battery cars are not the future
This result is not too bad really. But why do you turn AC off? No wonder your heater is weak.
ac has nothing to do with heating. It is a different device to dry and cool the air if needed.
Why would I turn it off, if I don't need it?
At this price-point not heaving a heat-pump is a bummer. This is a big and heavy car, a heat-pump would make such a difference.
No only 10Km.
Auto lights is the biggest fail of the lot. How hard can it be to turn on rear lights with DRL? There's simply no reason not to.
You can easily turn them on via OBD by setting the car into the Scandinavian mode since they are on full time in Scandinavia.
@@UhOhUmm Good to know except that the vast majority don't know how to do that. I was a child when it was first announced on the radio in the UK that "If you see a Volvo with its headlights on, don't flash them, they're now always on". That was several decades ago and we've gone backwards!
That idiot info screen isn't a distraction at all. 🙄 Crash imminent... 🤦🏽
With this energy consumption this vehicle needs 100kWh battery to be interesting purchase.
Firsat of all it's a huge 5m long vehicle. So you could understand bigger consumption.
But the problem is in product development.
Who needs a large vehicle would rather take an estate and not a hatchback, so Vw missed the point altogether with this vehicle. literally there is limited market that buys this.
The model s buyers are getting it for the performance, and only for the performance.( another 5m long hatchback body, that looks better than this hunchback id7)
Thus this isn't an interesting purchase from the start.
If you give it bigger battery consumption will be worse and take longer to charge.
VW ev tech is bad and again not an interesting purchase
@@roberts.wilson1848The estate version of the ID.7 will arrive in 2024.
Was the energy consumption that bad though? Chris' test of the Ioniq 6 returned similar efficiency - and that test was at warmer temps and lower speed.
@@roberts.wilson1848The bigger battery will probably charge in 25 min, while the smaller does 10-80 % in 28 min?!
+2C is not winter
big thirsty executive taxi
Who drives so slow?
Norwegians going over their speed limits…
half of europe !
Its as ”thirsty” as my current Skoda Enyaq 80X….and therefore not an interesting product for me. I need a car that can do at least 500 km in summer and 400 km in vinter (-5) on a charge!
500 km range with 130 km/h. That should be the minimal standard. Not test at 120 km/h which are irrelevant.
No it is not. Tested the 80x, had less range in my test.
Unbelievable that such an expensive car is sold without heat pump..vw deserves its failure
Agree. Seems to depend on market, it is included in Sweden
It depends on the country/climate
In Sweden is included as standard.
For me it would be an absolute waste of money to get a heat pump, today december 22, 2023 it was 19°C outside in my town in Spain.
@@rj7855 You could also use the heat pump for efficient cooling in the hot summer, it's not only for heating 😉
@@mohaypeti But I think that there is still cooling AC build in every new cars.
In Finland you cannot buy an ID model WITHOUT a heat pump.
FIRST!
169 miles if you run your battery between 10-80%. That's just not good enough is it? I'm waiting for battery tech to catch up
This is the problem; development of batteries is at its end. The same like Moore's law got caught up by nature's laws.
Why would you buy without heatpump? Seriously interested why you didnt add that?
1000€ and I wouldn't have gotten the car this year, so I would miss the German incentives.
@@BatteryLife Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for answering.
@@deevl1760 He didn't buy the car, he leased it.
Neuwagen für 60k umd nur 110kmh. Wird immer lustiger. Mein Neuwagen hat die Hälfte gekostet, wiegt die Hälfte, fährt doppelt so schnell. Und kennt keine Reichweiten Probleme.😂
ID.7 lost range competition vs. BYD Seal and especially vs. M3 Highland in a UK test by far. 🤔
still very close. Those videos are BYD ads :)
Good numbers and range for a car this size. Thanks for running this test, Chris! Audio still great?
Thanks, yes great sound system
Would it be possible to have a fiat 500e winter test being shot ?
Doubt I will get the car again
why people buy these electric garbages I will never understand...
Comfort!
Grazie.
Thank you very much
Is this same ID7 VW market it as 700 km range car,maybe 700km on tow truck
Yeah, and gas cars always consume the same despite speed and weather? No, they don't. 700 km is the WLTP range of the big battery version and it's perfectly doable.
@@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi Yes ,on tow truck
Passt!
23 grad junge 😂
Można przyjąć że to ta sama technologia co w ID. BUZZ z oprogramowaniem 3.5 zużycia prądu mniejsze z racji kształtu auta i mniejszych kół.
Program 4.0 wygląda lepiej do tego wyświetlacz na szybę super. VW idzie w dobra stronę. Pozdrawiam z Polski - i love my ID. BUZZ
What Cars test in the Uk also showed how inefficient the ID7 is at 2.6 to 2.8 miles/kwh (23.9 to 22.4 kWh/100km)
Were they lying since Chris tested it to be 3.2+ miles/kwh?
Remind me, what's the WLTP range of this vehicle? VW are joking right?
Maybe they have no winter in California... 😅
@@abraxastulammo9940Well I expect even the EPA figure (whatever that may be) is generous. VW constantly made noises about this being a 700 km range vehicle. I suspect that's only possible when the vehicle is dropped from a height of approximately 700 km.
@@rickwookie It needs the upcoming bigger battery for that.
77 kWh battery = 600 km WLTP
I think VW needs to go back to the old design language like the Aetos and Passat. Their electric cars is not really good looking.
That's your opinion/taste and mine is the complete opposite.....
Gas cars looks like horse carriage shit.