One if the big differences between then and now is how theyre sctually talking about real issues and problems, rather than the inadequacies of their opponent.
I enjoyed this video glimpse of the long extinct, not seen in decades, "The Loyal Opposition" (i.e., political opponents who don't disagree on the "what to achieve", only on the "how", and who assume the other is sincere in their beliefs.) Were they speaking off teleprompters? Because if they weren't.......Wow!
Your generation sure enjoyed certain perks, and perhaps more class in this regard. Glad to have people such as you be able to revisit those times through this channel 😊
What do you mean "so what," it means that our political debates have deteriorated into more than political differences, they have become personal attacks that should be banned from future presidential debates, just stick to the opponents political record and the differences between the political philosophy of the two candidates and leave out the personal attacks!
@AB-ct3kj Yes, however those were more actions and not interrupting and just insulting each other half the time. And Obama and McCain as well as Obama and Romney were debates full of class
I was too young in 1960 to appreciate the quality of our presidential candidates. How they discussed issues, were respectful to each other. We were better than what we see today. We wouldn't have even put a microphone in front of such people as a Donald Trump, spitting out lies, spreading misinformation, attacking anyone who dares to oppose him. Spreading hate, dividing our country for his own benefit. It's such a shame, that in just 64 years from this debate, we are we are in danger of losing our Democracy. God help us!
I think people have become quite desensitized these days in certain regards. Priorities have changed and perhaps there is lesser emphasis on actually doing research about policies and more so on mindlessly believeing things seen on social media. Also, sadly, entertainment sells.. It can be nice to revisit the past sometimes and perhaps reflect a little.
This was NOT the first televised American Presidential debate. The first one was in 1956, between two candidates for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver. Stevenson won the Democratic nomination, and later lost the election to Republican Dwight Eisenhower. The Kennedy-Nixon debates were the first televised debates between the Presidential nominees of the two major parties. ua-cam.com/video/hfoq3wf52YA/v-deo.html
I was six years old in 1960 and this is about the third time I watched this Debate. At the 6;48 mark, JKF says he "wants the people in South America and Africa to look at the United States and what the United States is doing and not look at Khruschev and China". Recently, the Chinese President offered about 50 African Nations loans and grants of $50 Billion over three years, to finance things like Railways. In the USA, some people think that Foreign Aid comprises 30% or 50% of our Budget, which is untrue. We spend about $50 billion on ALL Foreign Aid and it's less than 1% of our over $7,000 Billion Budget.
@rdelrosso1973 Our national defense is nearing a trillion dollars a year. By the end of the decade, it'll be two trillion a year. I'd like to know why the military needs two trillion when nasa gets next to nothing. We can't provide food and housing. Yet the defense contractors and military workers get all of our money. This isn't a Democrat or republican issue it's a national issue.
"We discuss tonight domestic issues"-JFK. They did, focusing on that, not he said, she said, personal attacks & other verbal diarrhea. I sure miss that style of two people discussing & stating what they thought about specific points of interest. I still remember watching this debate with my dad & a few uncles. One said "You're watching history & listen very closely". And young folks wonder why I miss the old days.
Wow, it’s great how you’re able to revisit something from your youth and witness the changes over the years in their style of debate and their policies. I’m grateful this channel is able to aid in that, even if to a little extent.
I was 7 when President Kennedy was murdered and 12 when Bobby was killed. No matter your political persuation, it would seem to me that the quality of our "leaders", took one heck of a nosedive since then.
He saw kids bringing their school lunches home to feed their families. 65 years later some kids today go hungry because they can't get a school lunch, and politicians try to enact laws to make sure that continues. Seems like not much has changed, and most of what has hasn't been positive. At least the Soviet Union is gone...
@TheMr02drop That's the republican party for you. The Louisiana governor denied aid to help provide lunches for children. They don't care about children once they are born. The republicunts don't care about the safety of children in school. They take books away in exchange for an increase in gun violence.
Interestingly, people who watched this very first televised debate said Kennedy won. They liked the clean-cut look that Kennedy portrayed. They didn't like Nixon's five o'clock shadow look. But people who listened to it on radio said Nixon won. They said Nixon sounded more intelligent. They didn't like Kennedy's New England accent. That was when those in charge of TV realized the power of TV.
This represents the quality of leadership and candidates in 1960. How in the hell could an intellectually and psYcologically unfit individual like Trump advance so far in US politics today, not to mention Greene, Gaetz, Broebert and other inept MAGA radicals. Clearly, today's politic is dangerously dysfunctional by propelling rather than eliminating unfit candidates.
You talk about Trump in a way that he is unfit when Joe Biden left billions of dollars of military weapons and equipment to al queda in afghanistan and Kamala being the one in charge of the boarder had the highest record of illegal crossing in American history. Not to mention three days after Kamala sits down with Putin, Ukraine gets invaded 3 days later. Under Joe Bidens watch, he could not do anything to deescalate the situation in the middle east and have gotten the entire world currently in the brink of starting ww3. In Trumps presidency there was not a war. He never started any wars at all and no war happened during his 4 years. It is also very ironic that you would consider someone like me a "MAGA radical"... as in Make America Great Again Radical. Of course ill be a radical about making my country greater than ever before. So you think that wanting to make america great again is a radical Idea? How Ironic... also to mention that Robert Kennedy Jr., nephew of the late great JFK(the person in this video) actually endorsed Trump for President tbis upcoming election 2024... I wonder why is that? Maybe because the Kennedy's are also about MAGA. There are intellectuals who think for themselves then there are others who take opinions of others such as opinion news as fact and easily manipulated onto hating others.
@@brianmorales6455 Yeah very childish that he deleted my red pill reply. I expected it though, because people like that don't know the first thing about what it is to be an American. Accepting and hearing opinions of others and accepting proven facts; our first Amendment. Since they are childish they believe they should freely speak and cancel others who speak and believe the opposite.
In the American States Sewage and chemicals collected from Corp..like Fastfood Rest, Retail Giant like Home Depot, and Walmart ..Even the foreign owned gas stations and Convenient stores collected on the Local level used as a Fertilizer and manure for our locally grown food.. So you see, We are literally eating they're shytt.. In America, our German owned Grocery Chains like Price Chopper, Market 32, Aldis, Hannaford charging the locals $3.10 for a single Apple grown in Corp sewage.. Great Job Politicians .
Now we’ve been dramatically reduced to who has the best drive/swing. God our society is fuckin doomed. You know we’re fucked when the two best options are a REALITY TV SHOW HOST AND A GOD DAMN RETIREMENT HOME RESIDENT!
Changed America, and not for the better. I have read that people who heard the debate on the radio preferred Nixon, while people who watched on TV favored Kennedy. This was because on the radio all that comes across is substance and knowledge, where a TV debate is more of a contest over who is prettier and more stylish and superficially appealing. This victory of style over substance has only gotten worse and worse over the years, until we have arrived at the present day where elections are won and lost over zingers and one-liners, gotcha moments, who has the nicer suit, who has a fly land on his nose during a debate, who looks ridiculous getting into a tank, and whatnot. To me this is not a positive change.
Nixon talking about inflation….so this is where T***p gets his talking points. I was waiting for Nixon to pull a tiny pack of Tic Tacs out of his pocket. Nixon also had a concept of a plan for healthcare, the economy, care for the aged, etc. as does T***p. Love those concepts of plans that the Republicans have had but never expressed in 60 plus years.
What's so hilarious about this debate is how much JFK is expressing what would have been Trump talking points in 1960. Makes me think that if JFK were running in 2024 he'd bravely point out how the voodoo people were eating the cats.
Hey there, if this video piqued your interest, I think you'd enjoy this short-
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One if the big differences between then and now is how theyre sctually talking about real issues and problems, rather than the inadequacies of their opponent.
Not a single insult from either of these two men.
I enjoyed this video glimpse of the long extinct, not seen in decades, "The Loyal Opposition" (i.e., political opponents who don't disagree on the "what to achieve", only on the "how", and who assume the other is sincere in their beliefs.)
Were they speaking off teleprompters? Because if they weren't.......Wow!
IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TOLERATED BY TRUE AMERICANS!!
Really..I mean a jab or two..or three ain't bad but modern debates are largely devoid of any civility
A great age
I was alive for that debate, but much too young to appreciate and understand. What a different style of debate!!!!😅😅
Your generation sure enjoyed certain perks, and perhaps more class in this regard. Glad to have people such as you be able to revisit those times through this channel 😊
A civil exchange of a difference of opinion, no personal attacks, no name calling.
So what
What do you mean "so what," it means that our political debates have deteriorated into more than political differences, they have become personal attacks that should be banned from future presidential debates, just stick to the opponents political record and the differences between the political philosophy of the two candidates and leave out the personal attacks!
@@patrickschabel3955proves you have no class
@@lesleymaner2851I agree, he doesn't care but he should, and he has "no class "👎😢
Jeeesh the class of the two men. Amazing times back then
Yeah. And they fact they don't have class anymore is 100% the fault of 🍊
@@BillyBall35 Not quite. GHW Bush vs. Dukakis in 1988 had its classless moments, as did GW Bush vs. Gore in 2000.
@AB-ct3kj Yes, however those were more actions and not interrupting and just insulting each other half the time. And Obama and McCain as well as Obama and Romney were debates full of class
I was too young in 1960 to appreciate the quality of our presidential candidates. How they discussed issues, were respectful to each other. We were better than what we see today. We wouldn't have even put a microphone in front of such people as a Donald Trump, spitting out lies, spreading misinformation, attacking anyone who dares to oppose him. Spreading hate, dividing our country for his own benefit. It's such a shame, that in just 64 years from this debate, we are we are in danger of losing our Democracy. God help us!
I think people have become quite desensitized these days in certain regards. Priorities have changed and perhaps there is lesser emphasis on actually doing research about policies and more so on mindlessly believeing things seen on social media. Also, sadly, entertainment sells..
It can be nice to revisit the past sometimes and perhaps reflect a little.
That was eerily beautiful. There was a good sense of which way the world was headed.
Pure Gentleman debate.
This was NOT the first televised American Presidential debate. The first one was in 1956, between two candidates for the Democratic Presidential nomination, Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver. Stevenson won the Democratic nomination, and later lost the election to Republican Dwight Eisenhower.
The Kennedy-Nixon debates were the first televised debates between the Presidential nominees of the two major parties.
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What a true debate is supposed to be. Not a mud-slinging contest!
A very, very long way from "they're eating the cats."
And don't forget "..... I was born..... a middle class kid....." 😩
@@Mhel2023 You are really grasping aren't you? 😂
@@Jacka127 No he is not! Check out the interview with Oprah Winfrey with Kamala Harris last week.
@@luislaplume8261 Even Oprah was looking sideways a few times , like thinking what's up with this loopy broad.
@@bigrigJim You are absolutely right on 🎯
I was six years old in 1960 and this is about the third time I watched this Debate.
At the 6;48 mark, JKF says he "wants the people in South America and Africa to look at the United States and what the United States is doing and not look at Khruschev and China".
Recently, the Chinese President offered about 50 African Nations loans and grants of $50 Billion over three years, to finance things like Railways.
In the USA, some people think that Foreign Aid comprises 30% or 50% of our Budget, which is untrue.
We spend about $50 billion on ALL Foreign Aid and it's less than 1% of our over $7,000 Billion Budget.
That's some interesting insight, also its pretty fascinating, how you witnessed this debate in real time 😊. I shall post Nixon's part soon
@rdelrosso1973 Our national defense is nearing a trillion dollars a year. By the end of the decade, it'll be two trillion a year. I'd like to know why the military needs two trillion when nasa gets next to nothing. We can't provide food and housing. Yet the defense contractors and military workers get all of our money. This isn't a Democrat or republican issue it's a national issue.
"We discuss tonight domestic issues"-JFK. They did, focusing on that, not he said, she said, personal attacks & other verbal diarrhea. I sure miss that style of two people discussing & stating what they thought about specific points of interest. I still remember watching this debate with my dad & a few uncles. One said "You're watching history & listen very closely". And young folks wonder why I miss the old days.
Wow, it’s great how you’re able to revisit something from your youth and witness the changes over the years in their style of debate and their policies. I’m grateful this channel is able to aid in that, even if to a little extent.
@@Brainsoup_mmm0😊
Man's never had a duff in his life
I was 7 when President Kennedy was murdered and 12 when Bobby was killed. No matter your political persuation, it would seem to me that the quality of our "leaders", took one heck of a nosedive since then.
Those days are gone.
How true.
He saw kids bringing their school lunches home to feed their families. 65 years later some kids today go hungry because they can't get a school lunch, and politicians try to enact laws to make sure that continues. Seems like not much has changed, and most of what has hasn't been positive. At least the Soviet Union is gone...
@TheMr02drop That's the republican party for you. The Louisiana governor denied aid to help provide lunches for children. They don't care about children once they are born. The republicunts don't care about the safety of children in school. They take books away in exchange for an increase in gun violence.
Interestingly, people who watched this very first televised debate said Kennedy won. They liked the clean-cut look that Kennedy portrayed. They didn't like Nixon's five o'clock shadow look. But people who listened to it on radio said Nixon won. They said Nixon sounded more intelligent. They didn't like Kennedy's New England accent. That was when those in charge of TV realized the power of TV.
Try "A Face In the Crowd" (1957). A movie as prescient about media and politics as "Network" was about network news evolution into infotainment.
This represents the quality of leadership and candidates in 1960. How in the hell could an intellectually and psYcologically unfit individual like Trump advance so far in US politics today, not to mention Greene, Gaetz, Broebert and other inept MAGA radicals. Clearly, today's politic is dangerously dysfunctional by propelling rather than eliminating unfit candidates.
You talk about Trump in a way that he is unfit when Joe Biden left billions of dollars of military weapons and equipment to al queda in afghanistan and Kamala being the one in charge of the boarder had the highest record of illegal crossing in American history. Not to mention three days after Kamala sits down with Putin, Ukraine gets invaded 3 days later. Under Joe Bidens watch, he could not do anything to deescalate the situation in the middle east and have gotten the entire world currently in the brink of starting ww3.
In Trumps presidency there was not a war. He never started any wars at all and no war happened during his 4 years.
It is also very ironic that you would consider someone like me a "MAGA radical"... as in Make America Great Again Radical. Of course ill be a radical about making my country greater than ever before. So you think that wanting to make america great again is a radical Idea? How Ironic... also to mention that Robert Kennedy Jr., nephew of the late great JFK(the person in this video) actually endorsed Trump for President tbis upcoming election 2024... I wonder why is that? Maybe because the Kennedy's are also about MAGA.
There are intellectuals who think for themselves then there are others who take opinions of others such as opinion news as fact and easily manipulated onto hating others.
if you were living in those days, youd have the same criticisms towards nixon as you have for trump, stop being so childish
@@brianmorales6455 Yeah very childish that he deleted my red pill reply. I expected it though, because people like that don't know the first thing about what it is to be an American. Accepting and hearing opinions of others and accepting proven facts; our first Amendment. Since they are childish they believe they should freely speak and cancel others who speak and believe the opposite.
@@brianmorales6455Trump would not have even been allowed in the primary back then
That's bullshit! @@brianmorales6455
Class act didn't need big business money
Only MOB Money.
Yep Kennedys old man was a boot legger oh and he also cheated on his wife this man is no saint!
you are so naive, both of them took big business money lil bro
OMGGG this is sooo damn cool🤯🤯🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is why NOT TO VOTE BY PARTY. We had good years under Kennedy.Listen and decide who you believe will be best for our country.
Since 1992, Democrats have had better candidates.
This presidential debate turned into a beauty contest
In the American States Sewage and chemicals collected from Corp..like Fastfood Rest, Retail Giant like Home Depot, and Walmart ..Even the foreign owned gas stations and Convenient stores collected on the Local level used as a Fertilizer and manure for our locally grown food..
So you see, We are literally eating they're shytt.. In America, our German owned Grocery Chains like Price Chopper, Market 32, Aldis, Hannaford charging the locals $3.10 for a single Apple grown in Corp sewage.. Great Job Politicians .
Can we bring him back from the dead please we need JFK so bad in these awful times❤ 🙏
Lay off the dope😂😂
He brought us to the brink of nuclear anhialation and escalated the Vietnam War into the quagmire it became.
Why did Kennedy throw Hoffa in his speech? Yes, they spoke more professionally back then, but what Kennedy said was a personal insult to Hoffa.
The American people have not had a Voice or seat at the table in 100 years.. Propaganda, Propaganda, PropagandA,...
Now we’ve been dramatically reduced to who has the best drive/swing. God our society is fuckin doomed. You know we’re fucked when the two best options are a REALITY TV SHOW HOST AND A GOD DAMN RETIREMENT HOME RESIDENT!
Changed America, and not for the better. I have read that people who heard the debate on the radio preferred Nixon, while people who watched on TV favored Kennedy. This was because on the radio all that comes across is substance and knowledge, where a TV debate is more of a contest over who is prettier and more stylish and superficially appealing. This victory of style over substance has only gotten worse and worse over the years, until we have arrived at the present day where elections are won and lost over zingers and one-liners, gotcha moments, who has the nicer suit, who has a fly land on his nose during a debate, who looks ridiculous getting into a tank, and whatnot. To me this is not a positive change.
That’s an interesting observation
I have heard that, JFK's people messed with the thermostat in that studio. Knowing that Nixon, breaks a sweat easily!
Thats a lil' sad if true lol@@kevinmontgomery1383
Nixon talking about inflation….so this is where T***p gets his talking points. I was waiting for Nixon to pull a tiny pack of Tic Tacs out of his pocket. Nixon also had a concept of a plan for healthcare, the economy, care for the aged, etc. as does T***p. Love those concepts of plans that the Republicans have had but never expressed in 60 plus years.
I'll post the rest of Nixon's part soon
Look at the difference in the body language. Kennedy sitting crossed leg, looking comfortable and confident.
Comparing 1960 to 2016/20/24...
Imagine , two candidates with different ideas, but brilliant minds, and they know what the fuck is going on and what they plan to do about it.
Did TED THORENSON prompt him?
JFK the last real Dem?
What's so hilarious about this debate is how much JFK is expressing what would have been Trump talking points in 1960. Makes me think that if JFK were running in 2024 he'd bravely point out how the voodoo people were eating the cats.
Same issue then and now. Talking points with no solutions…
Heh heh I think Nixon was born with that head, no matter how young he was he still looked like he was 50
Too bad the talking was out of synch.
It's all acting
I want individuals to meet their responsibilities
Moderate
Not woke
Define woke
ABC kangaroo Debate!
JFK, if you lose, you live.
No.
Kennedy would not be permitted to be in the Democratic Party today.
How utterly ridiculous
@@wmw3629 Have you EVER heard a Trumper say anything that WASN'T, 'ridiculous'?