The groups are impressive but that seems to be the standard with your builds. The SD how ever on both was a little lack lustre. I’d be interested in seeing data over a 50 shot string from both
Ill have to try this in my Anshutz Match 54. I used to shoot matches with .... chuckle.. Winchester Wildcats, and generally win either 1/2/3 place in every match, against guys shooting TenX. The firing line would be pop..pop..pop POP!... and everbody knew when I fired a round. It actually didnt care for TenX ammo....
had the absolute pleasure of shooting one of your recent left hand rim x creations the other day at my local private range . my first 5 shots printed with all rounds touching at 100 yards ,WOW
Lol heard you velocity testing when I was out for a walk! New range looks awesome, my barrett has been sitting since they closed the road to our old range....Lets shoot soon!
An interesting test of the new Long Range Lapua 22 Long Rifle. The long range 22 LR match I participate in has five steel targets from 165 to 400 yards so I'm always interested in any actual field testing of 22 LR's. Average velocity in this test was measured at 1072 fps. Lapua's website claims average MV of 1106 out of a 26 inch barrel. Your barrel is 24 inches. They provide no information on the SD of the MV. They show all their 22 - 40 grain bullets have the same BC of .172. The testing Bryan Litz did of 400 rounds of various Lapua offerings had an average BC of .150 with a SD of BC of .006. So far I haven't found any information from either Lapua''s website or anywhere else that explains why this ammo is better than than their other offerings at long range. It will be interesting to see how it shoots at 300 yards.
I saw very similar results with Lapua Long Range out of my rifle (RimX, 26” Shilen Match select). 1085 average, 6 SD. .285” average at 50, .850” at 100.
The new Lapua 22Lr offerings look to be winners 👍. Great review Kenny. Good luck in North Carolina next week. Try to keep away from that short bloke down in NC , he’s a big pest.
I have 3 Ruger 10/22's that IV built ..they all like different fps ammo..but they all shoot same hole groups at 50...and on a good weather day shoots less that 1 inch groups at 100 yards...I use CCI stuff..1070fps...1200 and 1260fps
Im bewildered when i clicked on the video i was assuming you were going to shoot long range, i routinely group at 150yards and hit a beating zone at 300yards on steel.
It's always hilarious how Americans pronounce "Lapua". It's a Finnish word with only one "P". Put equal weight on each letter, and don't accentuate the "P". It's pronounced Lapua, not Lappua. 👍 Anyway awesome video, and awesome ammunition.
Wow that's pretty nice. I used to live in Arizona. Phoenix, Glendale and Peoria for 3 till 27 but decided to move out to the boonies of U.P. of Michigan. I have plenty of space to shoot and hunt. What part of Arizona are you? Hey man I've been asking this question lately to people and was wondering if you could give me a brief summary of your opinion. I'm a really good shot but I'm not really that into the specifics of long range shooting. I've been trying to decide what would be the best rifle for practical use to put in my 60 liter backpack or strapped to it. Maybe that's not your thing but curious if you have ever tested any of those takedown barrel .22 rifles? I mean test for the limit of their accuracy. I was considering getting a Tactical solutions .920 barrel to put on a takedown Ruger 10/22 and get a BX trigger or maybe even a PRP trigger kit. I liked the idea of a Magpul X 22 backpacker stock. So lightweight and tucks away nice. I realize sport shooting is different than what my focus is but I'd like to get as accurate a rifle I can that's also packable ( or at least something I can securely strap to my 60 liter pack ). I'd want it to be as close to a target rifle as possible not considering human error. Keep in mind I'm not super into guns as a sport but just trying to do a lot of research on what tool will perform considering I'm skilled enough. I have 20/15 vision that runs in the family and my grandfather was a sniper in WW2. People say I inherited his depth perception. I've been a better shot than most people all my life without really trying that hard. I want to hone that natural gift a bit more but I'm pretty good. As an example I have harvested 2 to 4 white tail deer from 50 yards and in almost every year for the last decade with just some good 40 grain hollow point .22 LR ammo like Aguila, mini mags and stingers. Neck shot everytime lights out or a quick follow up shot just in case. Anyway those CZ 457 varmint guns I've heard are pretty accurate for not being a build. The ones with the heavier 16 inch barrels. 7 lbs is a bit heavier than the 3.9 lb Tactical solutions set up. I'm willing to put some money into whatever performs best. I'm hoping to find something I could stay within 1 or 2 inches at 100 yards. Also I'm noticing it seems 100 yards is the limit most people test .22 rifles but I've seen some people shooting rabbits, and even deer or coyotes, from 2 to 300 yards away. How is that possible? I'd think it would be too inconsistent but like I said I haven't gotten into long range tech and ammo just more familiar with 100 yards and in with rifles, shotguns and handguns. Anyway I know this description is long but I've just been asking as many people as possible the same questions. People that have spent more time in this area of expertise. If you could share your opinion I'd appreciate it or at least lead me in the right direction to people that are more refined in their understanding of this field. Thanks.
I shoot ARA benchrest. At fifty yards and more the wind impacts the shot more than the shooter. You shooting with out wind flags between you and the target does not give a true measure of the potential of the ammo or the gun. The shots are not repeatable unless you know the winds the bullet will see. You can see the fliers at longer distances are almost always made when the wind is ruffling the target.
@@EagleEyeShooting It is better to use wind chimes trinkets and flamingos than no wind indicators at all. You can not shoot in variable and gusting winds and determine the accuracy potential of the rifle or the ammo.
@@EagleEyeShooting I do appreciate your gunsmithing skills. What you teach is import and and the care you take in your firearm construction is obvious. Since we learn from you maybe, just maybe, you can learn something from us to make you a better shooter. Understanding wind direction and its impact upon your shots might even prove you build a better rifle than you think and prove it with wind flags.
I think you are missing the point in that he shoot PRS and you don’t get to wait on the same wind. You have to shoot quickly. There for he is testing in a more realistic condition not a lab condition. Better to know what your ammo will do when the atmosphere has a hold of it. Beside the wind changes multiple times between you and 100 target. So how many spots along the way to you watch and how long before all of them repeat exactly as they did last shot. I’m betting that close to impossible. One may get close but one can’t really replicate quite the way presented it. Identical condition shot to shot is not wry achievable.
Abbreviation for standard deviation. Its a statistical calculation the chrono gives you based off the number count of shots. SD in regards to Chronograph speeds calculate your current handloads/factory ammo ability to stay within a certain velocity parameter. E.G: 1076 FPS with an SD of 6 means the rifle and ammo will shoot anywhere from 1070-1082 FPS. Lower SD's = more consistent velocity shot for shot
Currently new builds only. Unable to guarantee the accuracy with the tolerances seen. Im able as of right now sort out new actions until I get my tooling I designed to square up CZ actions.
Ummm, 100 yards is NOT long range . . . or super long range. Why not try 200, 300 and 400 yards. If you can stay in 1 MOA at those ranges, I'll buy 100 cases of that ammo.
at the 18.00 per box I have seen the lr ammo 7.9 sd's and the 25.00 for the elr ( I refused to pay that much for 22lr ammo) both shown by the company to have the exact same stats as center x , I got better sd's 4.5 with the 1/2 the price snb club ammo speeds are pretty comparable lapua around 1117fps and the snb just a tad slower at 1113 . yea for not over paying both ammo's were run with 30 round groups
The groups are impressive but that seems to be the standard with your builds. The SD how ever on both was a little lack lustre. I’d be interested in seeing data over a 50 shot string from both
7.6 and 7.3 SD with .22 LR, seriously????!!!!
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Great video Kenny. I should have a brick here tomorrow. It was nice to get a sneak peek.
Very bad shadow for the close up of cartridge
Now thats fantastic. Great setup
Ill have to try this in my Anshutz Match 54. I used to shoot matches with .... chuckle.. Winchester Wildcats, and generally win either 1/2/3 place in every match, against guys shooting TenX. The firing line would be pop..pop..pop POP!... and everbody knew when I fired a round. It actually didnt care for TenX ammo....
Nice job. Great information. Now hopefully we can find it in Phoenix somewhere. Keep em comin'.
Once again great informative video. Thank you for taking the time to educate us with great data.
had the absolute pleasure of shooting one of your recent left hand rim x creations the other day at my local private range . my first 5 shots printed with all rounds touching at 100 yards ,WOW
Watching these cheap little 22s group like that looks like a lot of fun
That was awesome shooting. Can’t wait for more testing👍
Thanks for the review
Lol heard you velocity testing when I was out for a walk! New range looks awesome, my barrett has been sitting since they closed the road to our old range....Lets shoot soon!
Kathy is the BEST!!! 100% MY FAVORITE place to get ammo!
An interesting test of the new Long Range Lapua 22 Long Rifle.
The long range 22 LR match I participate in has five steel targets from 165 to 400 yards so I'm always interested in any actual field testing of 22 LR's.
Average velocity in this test was measured at 1072 fps. Lapua's website claims average MV of 1106 out of a 26 inch barrel. Your barrel is 24 inches. They provide no information on the SD of the MV. They show all their 22 - 40 grain bullets have the same BC of .172. The testing Bryan Litz did of 400 rounds of various Lapua offerings had an average BC of .150 with a SD of BC of .006.
So far I haven't found any information from either Lapua''s website or anywhere else that explains why this ammo is better than than their other offerings at long range.
It will be interesting to see how it shoots at 300 yards.
I saw very similar results with Lapua Long Range out of my rifle (RimX, 26” Shilen Match select). 1085 average, 6 SD. .285” average at 50, .850” at 100.
Thank You Sir! Really great in that barrel and chamber! I hope you do great at the Icebreaker match! 👍🇺🇸
Interesting new offering from Lapua. I'll check it out at the NRA Annual Meetings in Indy.
The new Lapua 22Lr offerings look to be winners 👍. Great review Kenny. Good luck in North Carolina next week. Try to keep away from that short bloke down in NC , he’s a big pest.
Time for some 200 or 300 yard groups to see how it holds up at long range compared to some other standard ammos!
Excellent preliminary groups. Look forward to seeing it at distance 👌☘️
Great video Kenney. Looks nice and warm down your way. Good info!
Haha sorry brother I know it's killing when seeing that kestrel. No worries, ill be wishing for your weather in a couple of months
Wow! Someone send you a case! 😳 Like to see them fired outta a 10/22. Have like a super .22 rifle, never seen a 24" barrel.
Nice shootin. I love how you are using a burris scope
I have 3 Ruger 10/22's that IV built ..they all like different fps ammo..but they all shoot same hole groups at 50...and on a good weather day shoots less that 1 inch groups at 100 yards...I use CCI stuff..1070fps...1200 and 1260fps
Im bewildered when i clicked on the video i was assuming you were going to shoot long range, i routinely group at 150yards and hit a beating zone at 300yards on steel.
What ever ammo you have is the very best ammo.
Those numbers look very close to SK long range match? Hmmm.
G.
unfortunately the shadows especially in the beginning are terrible. I couldn't make anything out of the bullets.
As explained to the video. I stated they are no different than the Center-X so a visual was not needed
What was the lot# on yours? 31557? I also got a case from GSI but haven't had a chance to go out yet. Thanks for the vid.
Good stuff the .228 super goup
Excellent shooting
Dang, .228! Ms. Eagle can shoot, too!
Interesting! Im getting 1083fps out of MTR with CenterX.
It's always hilarious how Americans pronounce "Lapua". It's a Finnish word with only one "P". Put equal weight on each letter, and don't accentuate the "P". It's pronounced Lapua, not Lappua. 👍
Anyway awesome video, and awesome ammunition.
Where is the brass M-lok weight listed?
New offering from L3i. Will have to google thier website. Can't link
Another great video!
You let your wife outshoot you? WTH!
JK, enjoyed the video, thanks.
🤣 Ya she sure did
😁😄😗 VERYGOOD 👍👍👍
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Great vid Kenny - will my RimX your building shoot that ? Will this transonic Lapua selection be for distances 100yd and out ?
Wow that's pretty nice. I used to live in Arizona. Phoenix, Glendale and Peoria for 3 till 27 but decided to move out to the boonies of U.P. of Michigan. I have plenty of space to shoot and hunt. What part of Arizona are you?
Hey man I've been asking this question lately to people and was wondering if you could give me a brief summary of your opinion. I'm a really good shot but I'm not really that into the specifics of long range shooting. I've been trying to decide what would be the best rifle for practical use to put in my 60 liter backpack or strapped to it. Maybe that's not your thing but curious if you have ever tested any of those takedown barrel .22 rifles? I mean test for the limit of their accuracy. I was considering getting a Tactical solutions .920 barrel to put on a takedown Ruger 10/22 and get a BX trigger or maybe even a PRP trigger kit. I liked the idea of a Magpul X 22 backpacker stock. So lightweight and tucks away nice.
I realize sport shooting is different than what my focus is but I'd like to get as accurate a rifle I can that's also packable ( or at least something I can securely strap to my 60 liter pack ). I'd want it to be as close to a target rifle as possible not considering human error. Keep in mind I'm not super into guns as a sport but just trying to do a lot of research on what tool will perform considering I'm skilled enough. I have 20/15 vision that runs in the family and my grandfather was a sniper in WW2. People say I inherited his depth perception. I've been a better shot than most people all my life without really trying that hard. I want to hone that natural gift a bit more but I'm pretty good. As an example I have harvested 2 to 4 white tail deer from 50 yards and in almost every year for the last decade with just some good 40 grain hollow point .22 LR ammo like Aguila, mini mags and stingers. Neck shot everytime lights out or a quick follow up shot just in case.
Anyway those CZ 457 varmint guns I've heard are pretty accurate for not being a build. The ones with the heavier 16 inch barrels. 7 lbs is a bit heavier than the 3.9 lb Tactical solutions set up. I'm willing to put some money into whatever performs best. I'm hoping to find something I could stay within 1 or 2 inches at 100 yards. Also I'm noticing it seems 100 yards is the limit most people test .22 rifles but I've seen some people shooting rabbits, and even deer or coyotes, from 2 to 300 yards away. How is that possible? I'd think it would be too inconsistent but like I said I haven't gotten into long range tech and ammo just more familiar with 100 yards and in with rifles, shotguns and handguns.
Anyway I know this description is long but I've just been asking as many people as possible the same questions. People that have spent more time in this area of expertise. If you could share your opinion I'd appreciate it or at least lead me in the right direction to people that are more refined in their understanding of this field. Thanks.
Check out Grey Birch fusion rifle with a folder. Take down 10/22 have a lot of slop this reducing accuracy.
@@EagleEyeShooting Nice man thanks for getting back to me so fast. I'm going to check it out right now
I wish I could find Lapua ammo for sale. I can only find the pistol stuff. Zero stores online seem to have irifle stuff in stock
Sir, I noticed some Super Long Range at Creedmoorsports on Friday. $23/box approximately 👍🇺🇸
👍🍻
I really enjoyed this video. Who you think has the best 22lr builds right now?
Modacam 👍
I shoot ARA benchrest. At fifty yards and more the wind impacts the shot more than the shooter. You shooting with out wind flags between you and the target does not give a true measure of the potential of the ammo or the gun. The shots are not repeatable unless you know the winds the bullet will see. You can see the fliers at longer distances are almost always made when the wind is ruffling the target.
I guess us PRS shooters better go to Kmart and buy up all the lawn wind chimes, trinkets and flamingos and set them up every 10 yards in each stage.
@@EagleEyeShooting It is better to use wind chimes trinkets and flamingos than no wind indicators at all. You can not shoot in variable and gusting winds and determine the accuracy potential of the rifle or the ammo.
Because all of us competition shooters only shoot in optimum weather conditions... got it. 👍
@@EagleEyeShooting I do appreciate your gunsmithing skills. What you teach is import and and the care you take in your firearm construction is obvious. Since we learn from you maybe, just maybe, you can learn something from us to make you a better shooter. Understanding wind direction and its impact upon your shots might even prove you build a better rifle than you think and prove it with wind flags.
I think you are missing the point in that he shoot PRS and you don’t get to wait on the same wind. You have to shoot quickly. There for he is testing in a more realistic condition not a lab condition. Better to know what your ammo will do when the atmosphere has a hold of it. Beside the wind changes multiple times between you and 100 target. So how many spots along the way to you watch and how long before all of them repeat exactly as they did last shot. I’m betting that close to impossible. One may get close but one can’t really replicate quite the way presented it. Identical condition shot to shot is not wry achievable.
How did it go out to 400 to 600 + would like to see thanks
What’s it cost?
Okay someone help me out. What is SD? I understood everything else, but what the hell does SD stand for?
Thanks in advance
Abbreviation for standard deviation. Its a statistical calculation the chrono gives you based off the number count of shots. SD in regards to Chronograph speeds calculate your current handloads/factory ammo ability to stay within a certain velocity parameter. E.G: 1076 FPS with an SD of 6 means the rifle and ammo will shoot anywhere from 1070-1082 FPS. Lower SD's = more consistent velocity shot for shot
will you rebarrel one of my cz457? or do you only do new actions???
Currently new builds only. Unable to guarantee the accuracy with the tolerances seen. Im able as of right now sort out new actions until I get my tooling I designed to square up CZ actions.
I think its ridiculous what they charge for rimfire ammo.
Please tell us how does this compare to standard CX in your rifle just so we know what the Standard is
CCI standard will perform almost the same for much cheaper
Please share a video of this.. Ive been searching all over online for someone in benchrest who uses CCI standard....
Please, loud music distracting; unnecessary.
great information and video, thank you.
Test it in a new cz or b14r before u work on it
Ummm, 100 yards is NOT long range . . . or super long range. Why not try 200, 300 and 400 yards. If you can stay in 1 MOA at those ranges, I'll buy 100 cases of that ammo.
at the 18.00 per box I have seen the lr ammo 7.9 sd's and the 25.00 for the elr ( I refused to pay that much for 22lr ammo) both shown by the company to have the exact same stats as center x , I got better sd's 4.5 with the 1/2 the price snb club ammo speeds are pretty comparable lapua around 1117fps and the snb just a tad slower at 1113 . yea for not over paying both ammo's were run with 30 round groups
Did you not see tbe 100 yard groups? SD's at the muzzle mean little if SD's at the Target stay the same. Shot marker confirms