Straight from Hornady: So this bullet was intended for the 300 Blackout. However the bullet will handle from 1600-3200 fps. impacts to create expansion. Now anything above the 2800 fps. you are going to very likely start shedding petals off the bullet during pass throughs. Thanks
In rewatching this again, I'd like to see the side profile of the bases. Also a 10% or 20% gel test would be very interesting to see. But I guess I'll just have to try them on black tails and black bears instead. Im going to use the 140 (30/30) Mono Flex non lead bullets in my 308. I've built and shot 200 rounds thus far on target so far. They group well in my 20" Savage when it not too fouled. These shoud expand hard wide and fast. Hopefully lose its petals too. I like satilite (copper) projestiles. Im going try this bullet as well in my 20" 308. I believe two jug penetration is plenty. I believe water in tougher or a harder medium than 20% gel. And again, i am a fan of satilite projectiles. I believe thats what the partion is. Water and gel test only show so much. The partion to me is still king in some ways. But im wantingbto move away from lead.
Those was probably designed for the 300 Blackout and I betcha the Wilson Combat 300 Ham'r would do well since it's about 2-250fps faster than the Blackout
Fabulous! Now please do 165 gr. and 180 gr. CXs, at 308 Winchester velocities! Forget Win Mag. We all know what mono bullets do at high velocity, it's the low velocity tests that separate the "winners from the losers". Thank you so much, I love these tests! Cheers
We'll add them to the list! I think we do have the 165's loaded up in 300 Win Mag right now, but we could definitely run the 180's in a .308! Thanks for watching!
I have a 308 “short Range” (< 150M) moose gun and I load these same pills for many others at our gun club. 180gr Monos work great. Their all I shoot now. My Sako finnlight 6.5 creedmoor loves the Barnes 127gr. I’d love to see a 160gr mono in .264 cal.
Wow! Looks like a Lazer out there. I think you are on to something and close to a great hunting round. It would be interesting to see the next larger mass CX bullets. Can you try it in 120 and 130gr ? I really enjoy seeing the terminal performance of the bullets that you test. It's important information for hunters. Thank you.😊
Along with the 110 tx . You should try the 120 Tac-TX . It has a higher BC then the 130 TTSX. Which my son's have killed truck loads of big game ,including numerous bull moose . The 120Tac-Tx expands better at longer ranges . GreT video 👍
I would really like to see these on deer, especially the 120 lb blk tails. The satilite projectiles, I believe, do more then we realize. But only really can be proved on live game. The core, from what you said, sounded pretty darn small.
Looks like lead core performance from a all copper design. I wish they would make a line of heavier bullets like this so we could get better hydraulic wounding and expansion in non magnum calibers with a better bc that the super lite bullets
I wonder how much a bullet jacketing apparatus cost, then you can play with metallurgy for whatever application you desire. I like 308 for it's practicality in all aspects and I'm a believer of hydrostatic shock. Now to get 3k fps on 18" ar would make me a happy camper. It's a world of give and take but I want an ar, 18" barrel at 3k fps and the perfect combo of penetration, expansion and hydrostatic shock.
Would have liked to have seen you take this test round out to 800 yards or so, but I'd bet this round would make short work on Hogs, especially on a Headshot only hunt. 🤔 😅
Wow. The reason I choose monolithic bullets is to NOT HAVE excessive fragmentation. I want controlled expansion and that is not what happened here. Even at impact velocities below 2400 fps this bullet did not hold together. I would love to see a response from Hornady on this specific test.
@@Ariel-x1x Really? They don’t load it in any of their own .308 Win ammo. But they do load it in their 300BLK ammo. .308 diameter doesn’t mean “for .308 Winchester”
@@Ariel-x1x No, it doesn’t. .308 covers everything from 300BLK to 300 RUM. And they *CAN’T* use the same projectiles, even though they’re the same size.
I have hit a lot of whitetail deer with bullets that perform similar to this test and it is extremely effective as long as it’s in the heart and lungs or major arteries.
Still waiting onthat 110g barnes load Also a 150g CX load would be good to see Also a 150g ttsx in the 300win Just some suggestions. By far the best channel for bullet pwrformamce on youtube!!
I use CX bullets in my 375 Ruger. I found they work great on moose. I recovered only 1 out of 3 bullets ftom 2 moose. (Pass-throughs for 2 at close range broadside). The bullet mushroom was perfect and weight was 245gr.(250gr) I chronographed the load and it was 2700 f/s @ 12ft. The bullet I recovered was from a 475yd shot. Both moose were just under 1100 lbs.
Fantastic test. I would love to see you test this against the 110 Barnes TTSX with the same powder charge. I wonder if the Barnes will blow like the CX? I shoot the Barnes TTSX in many calibers ranging from 223 Remington - 375 Ruger, and haven’t witness fragmentation like this. Thanks again. ☺️
I heard that testing showed that Hydrostatic shok works most effectively at speeds above 2400 FPS, so it seems that this particular load is definitely in the right neighborhood for it.
It might break up at closer ranges, but looking at your outcomes you can guarantee it will be a very fast killer of small to medium sized, thin skinned deer. A heavier version around 150gr in .30 cal would be very interesting to see.
I check my rifles with a bore scope last couple of years I have experienced excesseve, at least what I think excessive copper fouling which can be an exercise removing, I recently watched a podcast from Hornady that be advised the CX bullet will deposit alot of copper in the barrel, and you will have to provide maintenance to your barrel after using this bullet.Hornady does promote cleaning and shooting a clean barrel ( I agree with that). I am considering trying this CX bullet, what is your experience after using this bullet, Copper fouling can really mess with accuracy i have been there a few times. Thanks for all the effort you put into these demonstrations.
Go on Barne's website, look at their online load data. On the sheet for the .308 Winchester, look at the loads recommended for the 110gr TSX and TTSX - we were running their max recommended charge of Ramshot Tac.
Well done. Excellent thoughts & perspective. Good thinking on your part & very helpful for us by you providing the impact velocities at each range. Oh and fantastic scenery footage to boot. Thank you.
Would like to see performance at lower (300blk) velocities as was mentioned in video
We've got it added to the list!
Well.. you can see what it acts like at ~ 2100 FPS as that was the impact at 500 yd.
@@billr4677 yep
Hornady factory ammo is 2285 with I believe a 16" barrel so that nets you the same performance as this at 400 yards.
Straight from Hornady:
So this bullet was intended for the 300 Blackout. However the bullet will handle from 1600-3200 fps. impacts to create expansion. Now anything above the 2800 fps. you are going to very likely start shedding petals off the bullet during pass throughs. Thanks
In rewatching this again, I'd like to see the side profile of the bases.
Also a 10% or 20% gel test would be very interesting to see. But I guess I'll just have to try them on black tails and black bears instead.
Im going to use the 140 (30/30) Mono Flex non lead bullets in my 308. I've built and shot 200 rounds thus far on target so far. They group well in my 20" Savage when it not too fouled.
These shoud expand hard wide and fast. Hopefully lose its petals too. I like satilite (copper) projestiles.
Im going try this bullet as well in my 20" 308. I believe two jug penetration is plenty. I believe water in tougher or a harder medium than 20% gel. And again, i am a fan of satilite projectiles. I believe thats what the partion is. Water and gel test only show so much. The partion to me is still king in some ways. But im wantingbto move away from lead.
Yep, think you guys made good use of that heat shield tip. Bet that 130 grainer would be smoking hot in the 30-06!
I like the results of this video.
Those was probably designed for the 300 Blackout and I betcha the Wilson Combat 300 Ham'r would do well since it's about 2-250fps faster than the Blackout
Fabulous! Now please do 165 gr. and 180 gr. CXs, at 308 Winchester velocities! Forget Win Mag. We all know what mono bullets do at high velocity, it's the low velocity tests that separate the "winners from the losers". Thank you so much, I love these tests! Cheers
We'll add them to the list! I think we do have the 165's loaded up in 300 Win Mag right now, but we could definitely run the 180's in a .308! Thanks for watching!
I have a 308 “short Range” (< 150M) moose gun and I load these same pills for many others at our gun club. 180gr Monos work great. Their all I shoot now. My Sako finnlight 6.5 creedmoor loves the Barnes 127gr. I’d love to see a 160gr mono in .264 cal.
Wow! Looks like a Lazer out there. I think you are on to something and close to a great hunting round. It would be interesting to see the next larger mass CX bullets. Can you try it in 120 and 130gr ? I really enjoy seeing the terminal performance of the bullets that you test. It's important information for hunters. Thank you.😊
Along with the 110 tx . You should try the 120 Tac-TX . It has a higher BC then the 130 TTSX. Which my son's have killed truck loads of big game ,including numerous bull moose . The 120Tac-Tx expands better at longer ranges . GreT video 👍
Thanks for the info, we've got it added to the list!
I second the motion!
Can you test the difference in Hornady 130g CX in the outfitter and Superperformce ammo? 500 yards plus?
I would really like to see these on deer, especially the 120 lb blk tails.
The satilite projectiles, I believe, do more then we realize. But only really can be proved on live game.
The core, from what you said, sounded pretty darn small.
any chance of you guys doing the CX test for a 180gn 300Win Mag... that is the load I plan on using for moose this fall
I’ve shot the Barnes 110gr from my 270Win with a 20” barrel. Performance was way better at similar velocity. Heck their GMX do better if you ask me.
Looks like lead core performance from a all copper design. I wish they would make a line of heavier bullets like this so we could get better hydraulic wounding and expansion in non magnum calibers with a better bc that the super lite bullets
I wonder how much a bullet jacketing apparatus cost, then you can play with metallurgy for whatever application you desire. I like 308 for it's practicality in all aspects and I'm a believer of hydrostatic shock. Now to get 3k fps on 18" ar would make me a happy camper. It's a world of give and take but I want an ar, 18" barrel at 3k fps and the perfect combo of penetration, expansion and hydrostatic shock.
I’d like to see you test this bullet in 308 with 130 grain and 150grain.
We've got them added to the list!
150gr version is going to be released this winter. No sign of a 125 gr version though
Wow, didn't expect them to blow up like that! Always enjoy your videos!
Thanks for your support!
What was the twist rate for the test rifle?
What powder did you use, great velocity?
Would have liked to have seen you take this test round out to 800 yards or so, but I'd bet this round would make short work on Hogs, especially on a Headshot only hunt. 🤔 😅
Hell, I honestly didn't know an all copper bullet would frag like this. Don't know what to say about that. Surprised 😯
It is designed to be run at 300blk speeds. The heavy projectiles typically are built much tougher. You kind of picked thr outlier in the range.
I believe having satellites projectiles helps in killing, as the core continues traveling on through. Good job.
But I also dislike having lead in my meat..... the copper projectiles with petals that break off sound good to me.
Wow. The reason I choose monolithic bullets is to NOT HAVE excessive fragmentation. I want controlled expansion and that is not what happened here. Even at impact velocities below 2400 fps this bullet did not hold together. I would love to see a response from Hornady on this specific test.
This is probably designed for 300 blackout.
@@Ariel-x1x Based on what?
@@Ariel-x1x Really? They don’t load it in any of their own .308 Win ammo. But they do load it in their 300BLK ammo. .308 diameter doesn’t mean “for .308 Winchester”
@@Ariel-x1x No, it doesn’t. .308 covers everything from 300BLK to 300 RUM. And they *CAN’T* use the same projectiles, even though they’re the same size.
Your guys videos are the best. Straight up no BS. Just facts with examples. Don't stop 🤠
Agree. The channel is absolute gold. Down range terminal performance matters most for hunters, and almost no one is doing this testing.
Subscribed ! found this while looking up projectiles for the blackout would love to see how they perform on that. Cheers all the way from Australia
I have hit a lot of whitetail deer with bullets that perform similar to this test and it is extremely effective as long as it’s in the heart and lungs or major arteries.
Still waiting onthat 110g barnes load
Also a 150g CX load would be good to see
Also a 150g ttsx in the 300win
Just some suggestions. By far the best channel for bullet pwrformamce on youtube!!
I use CX bullets in my 375 Ruger. I found they work great on moose. I recovered only 1 out of 3 bullets ftom 2 moose. (Pass-throughs for 2 at close range broadside). The bullet mushroom was perfect and weight was 245gr.(250gr) I chronographed the load and it was 2700 f/s @ 12ft. The bullet I recovered was from a 475yd shot. Both moose were just under 1100 lbs.
Looks like this bullet should work to simulate bullets like berger that are meant to fragment heavily.
Seems like a great coyote round
Fantastic test. I would love to see you test this against the 110 Barnes TTSX with the same powder charge. I wonder if the Barnes will blow like the CX? I shoot the Barnes TTSX in many calibers ranging from 223 Remington - 375 Ruger, and haven’t witness fragmentation like this. Thanks again. ☺️
I heard that testing showed that Hydrostatic shok works most effectively at speeds above 2400 FPS, so it seems that this particular load is definitely in the right neighborhood for it.
It might break up at closer ranges, but looking at your outcomes you can guarantee it will be a very fast killer of small to medium sized, thin skinned deer. A heavier version around 150gr in .30 cal would be very interesting to see.
Completely agree - we've got the 150 on our list!
I'm watching to see a 130gr. CX that expands like this. CX or Hornady give us a CX 30,cal. In 130gr. Please
I check my rifles with a bore scope last couple of years I have experienced excesseve, at least what I think excessive copper fouling which can be an exercise removing, I recently watched a podcast from Hornady that be advised the CX bullet will deposit alot of copper in the barrel, and you will have to provide maintenance to your barrel after using this bullet.Hornady does promote cleaning and shooting a clean barrel ( I agree with that). I am considering trying this CX bullet, what is your experience after using this bullet, Copper fouling can really mess with accuracy i have been there a few times. Thanks for all the effort you put into these demonstrations.
300 blk plz
I bet these would kill like lightning in small deer and antelope.
100% agree, they'd probably drop right where you hit them!
I would not expect the bullets to fragment this severely in flesh.
Would you consider that 110 gn for a 30 06? It's something I've been wanting to try.
What was your bullet seating depth used?
We used Barnes recommended seating depth for a 110gr TTSX
What powder and charge did you use for this?
Max recommended charge of Ramshot Tac from Barne's online load data for a 110gr TTSX.
Sweet video! Cooper bullets are interestingly cool!
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I used them in a 6.5cm shot them @ water jugs they explode into dust
Can you share the load detail you worked up for this round. I can't find a load which goes much above 3150, maybe 3200.
Go on Barne's website, look at their online load data. On the sheet for the .308 Winchester, look at the loads recommended for the 110gr TSX and TTSX - we were running their max recommended charge of Ramshot Tac.
any chance of testing the Hornady 125 ECX?
Should load these in 7.62x39 !!
Wow! Those bullets are like Winchester silver tips.
Yikes.
Not what I was expecting at all.
Hopefully they work like the GMX with the higher velocity rounds.
Well done. Excellent thoughts & perspective. Good thinking on your part & very helpful for us by you providing the impact velocities at each range. Oh and fantastic scenery footage to boot. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Can y'all try the Combined technologies ballistic silver tip, in the 270.
I will add that to the list!
These would absolutely slay whitetail 🦌
Cool
Please try these in 300 blackout.
which powder did you use to get to 3,482f/s?
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Looks like perfect performance to me.
This is exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks
No problem!
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Good luck to your team! Great job 👌👍 thank you Sir for.308
Thanks for all your support!
Thank you 😊
When you gonna do more videos
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Awesome test, thanks for doing it
Thanks for watching!
Yet CA hunters are being forced to use light weight bullets like these (compared to the ELD-X). It's a shame.
Thorough test! I wonder what would happen at 300 blackout velocities
Looking forward to more of your tests!
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Great video!