Thank you very much for this! I've been a Star Trek fan since 1966. (I"m 69 years old) And ST Discovery never grabbed me as being "good Trek" in the way the original series up through DS9 were. I'm going to make a wild guess here: The writers of Discovery are from a different generation than the writers of the shows I've loved. I won't say anything more about this, because it's truly a gut reaction. But the recaps of each season you've given me here - of a show I'll admit I have not watched - didn't make me want to watch the actual seasons. I have a good friend my age who does like Discovery. I"m going to share your video with him and ask him to explain what's great about the show in his view. At least now I will have an idea of what he's talking about. Unrelated: I love Michelle Yeoh and do plan on watching her Section 31 film. I"m so happy she loves Star Trek so much! Thanks again for all your help. LLAP!
@@SteveBrant55 As another fan who hasn’t watched the series either, mostly due not caring to add the network it is on, I agree on Yeoh. Her character, from the few clips Ive seen, strikes me as the most interesting and compelling.
As a big Star Trek fan, I've forced myself to watch Discovery as the storylines for each season has been the worst in Star Trek history! This season has the chance to add some sorely needed storytelling to Discovery! But I find myself watching interpersonal relationship storylines that take up 80% of the episodes with 10% for a big chase or fight scenes, leaving only 10% for storytelling. They have turned it into a Soap Opera set in space.
what else would you expect from DEIscovery? they arent telling a star trek story, theyre telling whatever story fits with their diversity first message, as the cost of compelling narrative and actually interesting plot lines. Utter modern drivel.
I don't hate Discovery. I just don't love it. It's just too serious. The entire series is just so serious and melodramatic. It's one life ending, universe altering threat after another. Deep Space Nine took place during a war and was much much lighter than Discovery. All Trek can get serious but Trek is usually a light breezy adventure. Discovery just isn't fun. Discovery features some really great characters and genuinely great acting and there's some neat stories in there. The Section 31 stuff, the mirror universe stuff. It's just not a fun watch for me. All that said I love me some Lower Decks and Brave New Worlds is fun.
That's exactly what's wrong with new Trek. I fully agree. It feels out of canon. Disco looks more modern than TNG although being a show set 110 years in the future of Disco. New Trek probably wouldn't be as controversial if they would have set in mid 25th century.
Really appreciate the recap! I'd love to hear ya use your normal conversational voice, rather than a "youtuber" or "announcer" voice. I think it'd come across more authentic, interesting, and engaging, sharing yourself and obvious love of Trek universe, and skill in research and story telling. Thanks again, looking forward to watching more!
I'll go one step farther and offer some hopefully-constructive criticism: I had a rather difficult time understanding much of what was said in this video. It was a combination of your slurring of many words and how fast you were speaking. I tried activating subtitles, but the auto-transcription had difficulty parsing your speech as well.
I stopped watching at the end of season three. I didn't even really like season three that much but I felt committed since I had started it. I didn't watch any of season four. But since the last season starting now I'm going to watch a few episodes and see how it goes
I LOVE Discovery. I am so excieted for the final season. A part of me wants to wait until it is finished and binge watch it, as I did the majority of the series (I just 'discvered' it a few months back), but I am sad it is ending. I think it has been one of the best Star Trek projects.
Discovery is easily fixed... time travel back to when Burnam was supposed to die when she was a kid and bring her to the future. She "died" as a kid, and Disco never happened. The end.
I enjoyed season 3 the most, as I thought the futuristic setting served the concept really well. No season was perfect -- and the "puzzle box" structure left over from the Bad Robot braintrust behind the show is never as satisfying as just good, episodic storytelling -- but everything feeling so new and dangerous in the 3200s was a pretty good time.
why the end☹️ I actually like this series the far future sounded so interesting I was ready for more content cus they could do whatever with new stuff they want to show without it completely affecting the older Stark content
@@brunswicksquaremusic5905 This has nothing to do with real world politics. Discovery had some decent story lines but the show lost many long term fans. It was nothing original just a filler piece in an existing story that really made no sense. The show was just bad.
@@alejandronopasanada5302 yes, eating paint chips makes you think Star Trek discovery is somehow good. Crusher/bones/bashir and Pulaski all agree. Even phlox questions your sanity for liking discovery.
Season 1 and 2 were pretty bad, season 3 was okay but way too depressing in outlook, season 4 I remember actually enjoying somewhat, will see how season 5 goes
Ultra Trek drama. Low vocal whispers in turbo lifts, corridors and engine room. I call it gay trek on mushrooms. Everyone has extreme emotional interactions with friend and foe.
In the back of my mind I’m thinking “Calypso” will join a long list of other subjects that a people now conditioned to accept mediocrity, will write head cannon for in the comment section of every UA-cam final discovery episode review. I ain’t gonna lie, I find head cannon pathetic when you pay time and money.
Saved me so much time! Couldn’t remember which season I was on when I last stopped watching … now realise it doesn’t matter, all seasons are equally boring 😂😢
Just found this show and binged the first season. I think it's the best Star Trek series ever. Shows how bad ass the Klingons are. Not the pretend bad ass that was Worf who managed to get his ass kicked in every hand to hand fight he was ever in. Shows the people talking like real people. Swearing like real people and fighting like real warriors, sometimes winning and sometimes losing, was refreshing. I'm glad someone made a Star Trek series into the action series I thought possible. Not more of the politically correct mediocre crap they have made for the last 50 or so years. Ok there were some aspects that annoyed me but all in all I will hate to see it end.
Saying Discovery is not politically correct, or less so than the previous shows like TNG or DS9 etc., is just flat out incorrect. It is less sanitary, sure, but less politically correct? Absolutely not. In fact, its political correctness appears to be the centerpiece of all of its writing and its mission. Discovery takes the inhabitants of modern-day San Francisco and puts them on a 23rd century starship. The entire premise of Star Trek was that humanity has evolved (that is to say socially, intellectually, technologically and culturally). Putting early 21st century people facing early 21st century problems as Starfleet officers in Star Trek is just contradictory to what Star Trek was created to be. It's not an evolution of the franchise, it's a complete 180 degree turn. Star Trek is also meant to be less about action and more about, well, anything else. Most of the time. The intellectual and philosophical storytelling combined with a TIMELESS commentary on social and political issues made Star Trek so distinct from, say, Star Wars, which always took a more fantasy-like approach to its storytelling and relied on action scenes far more. The cast of Discovery feel like they would be right at home in a CW teen drama, something that can, absolutely, be enticing, fun, or even great, but has little to no connection to Star Trek. The show is also quite mediocre in terms of its visuals, as the cinematographer seems to think that prime telephoto lenses with aperture wide open are somehow "cinematic", making a lot of the scenes more of a blurry mess. It is also VERY dark, as in you can't see that well, since it's so damn dark on the bridge etc. The music is... there. Being forgettable. The casting genuinely feels like a CW teen drama. The respect to canon is non-existent, completely changing the Klingons because... why not, right? Star Trek's ret-cons, when they happened, had always been done to either fix a genuine problem with the story or to update the visuals. This is just... there because they thought it would be cool. Look, there is nothing wrong with loving Discovery, but this has little to nothing in common with Star Trek apart from the name and very surface-level things. Is it any good? I'd say no, but taste is subjective. Is it Star Trek? In name only.
@@roydowling2542For years the message boards were ablaze with people wanting to know; Do Klingons have 2 Kongs?” Discovery not only brought you that answer in a proud and memorable moment BUT, they also gave you….Koobs!? When I saw that strong Klingon woman SA-ing that dude (who had to have had one cut off….right? For The Empire), I thought to myself “Now THIS is Star Trek!”
Thank you very much for this! I've been a Star Trek fan since 1966. (I"m 69 years old) And ST Discovery never grabbed me as being "good Trek" in the way the original series up through DS9 were. I'm going to make a wild guess here: The writers of Discovery are from a different generation than the writers of the shows I've loved. I won't say anything more about this, because it's truly a gut reaction. But the recaps of each season you've given me here - of a show I'll admit I have not watched - didn't make me want to watch the actual seasons. I have a good friend my age who does like Discovery. I"m going to share your video with him and ask him to explain what's great about the show in his view. At least now I will have an idea of what he's talking about. Unrelated: I love Michelle Yeoh and do plan on watching her Section 31 film. I"m so happy she loves Star Trek so much! Thanks again for all your help. LLAP!
Do you not like Voyager???
Or Enterprise for that matter?? Strange New Worlds? All of these are great, disco is the lame duckling
@@SteveBrant55 As another fan who hasn’t watched the series either, mostly due not caring to add the network it is on, I agree on Yeoh. Her character, from the few clips Ive seen, strikes me as the most interesting and compelling.
So you're 69 years old? Nice
The best age
As a big Star Trek fan, I've forced myself to watch Discovery as the storylines for each season has been the worst in Star Trek history! This season has the chance to add some sorely needed storytelling to Discovery! But I find myself watching interpersonal relationship storylines that take up 80% of the episodes with 10% for a big chase or fight scenes, leaving only 10% for storytelling. They have turned it into a Soap Opera set in space.
what else would you expect from DEIscovery? they arent telling a star trek story, theyre telling whatever story fits with their diversity first message, as the cost of compelling narrative and actually interesting plot lines. Utter modern drivel.
I don't hate Discovery. I just don't love it.
It's just too serious. The entire series is just so serious and melodramatic. It's one life ending, universe altering threat after another. Deep Space Nine took place during a war and was much much lighter than Discovery. All Trek can get serious but Trek is usually a light breezy adventure. Discovery just isn't fun.
Discovery features some really great characters and genuinely great acting and there's some neat stories in there. The Section 31 stuff, the mirror universe stuff.
It's just not a fun watch for me.
All that said I love me some Lower Decks and Brave New Worlds is fun.
IMO the writers clearly wanted to do their own sci-fi and then decided to hijack a popular IP.
@@jamescheddar4896 YES! It would make a GREAT sci fi show, just not a great Trek show.
@@GrumpyMunkyGameDesign yeah shows like stargate and andromeda had successful runs so these people are just cowardly
That's exactly what's wrong with new Trek. I fully agree. It feels out of canon. Disco looks more modern than TNG although being a show set 110 years in the future of Disco. New Trek probably wouldn't be as controversial if they would have set in mid 25th century.
Really appreciate the recap!
I'd love to hear ya use your normal conversational voice, rather than a "youtuber" or "announcer" voice. I think it'd come across more authentic, interesting, and engaging, sharing yourself and obvious love of Trek universe, and skill in research and story telling.
Thanks again, looking forward to watching more!
I'll go one step farther and offer some hopefully-constructive criticism: I had a rather difficult time understanding much of what was said in this video. It was a combination of your slurring of many words and how fast you were speaking. I tried activating subtitles, but the auto-transcription had difficulty parsing your speech as well.
I stopped watching at the end of season three. I didn't even really like season three that much but I felt committed since I had started it. I didn't watch any of season four. But since the last season starting now I'm going to watch a few episodes and see how it goes
I'm so going to miss Discovery! I love it so much ❤
You have no idea what a sci Fi drama is.
I LOVE Discovery. I am so excieted for the final season. A part of me wants to wait until it is finished and binge watch it, as I did the majority of the series (I just 'discvered' it a few months back), but I am sad it is ending. I think it has been one of the best Star Trek projects.
Dont worry, theres the new Dr Who if you want to see another classic TV show destroyed by a modern DEI driven agenda!
Deluded
It is surely a good and interesting sci-fi show, but it isn't good star trek imo. Good to see some fans of discovery though
Discovery is easily fixed... time travel back to when Burnam was supposed to die when she was a kid and bring her to the future. She "died" as a kid, and Disco never happened.
The end.
My favorite line in Disco: Georgio states, “Orange. Really?”
I just hope season 5 won't ended up just another galaxy-wide ending scenario.
We need a moratorium on "anomalies"
2:18 Unexpected crossover with The Expanse.
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I'm sad to see Discovery go.. There was soooo many stories that could have been explored...
Ya. It sucks they couldnt give us a few more seasons with Micheal as captain
I, for one, am happy. The idea was cool, but it was squandered by complete and utter incompetence in writing. Simple as that.
@@quantumvideoscz2052 And mushroom warp. And that stupid little flip the ship did when it warped. MY god there was so much to hate
Well if you want to fund the show feel free, that's a few million per season
I am pleased that you understood it all, Discovery isn’t for me……..I may give it another go.
Could you upload subtitles to this video? There are many different words and names that are a bit hard to get... love the accent though!
I enjoyed season 3 the most, as I thought the futuristic setting served the concept really well. No season was perfect -- and the "puzzle box" structure left over from the Bad Robot braintrust behind the show is never as satisfying as just good, episodic storytelling -- but everything feeling so new and dangerous in the 3200s was a pretty good time.
Muh space ship does a super cool barrel roll
LMFAO i call it the 'fungus flip'
why the end☹️ I actually like this series the far future sounded so interesting I was ready for more content cus they could do whatever with new stuff they want to show without it completely affecting the older Stark content
I forgot season one Tilly existed 😅
Bring back DS9
This presenters speech is so hard to understand. Please speak clearly in plain English.
That's what i am doing ;)
- Jack
Season 4 was really cool for me.
Story in season 4 and maybe in season 3 feels more solid, clean, more simple and interesting. But Season 1 and Season 2...phhhh...to overloaded...
Omg so good! I really love this!
Deluded
Paramount has lost millions of dollars, lost many a loyal fan. That’s the complete story of discovery. 🙈🤷🏼♂️😵
They list me as a fan when they cancelled Discovery to appease the MAGAs…
👆Do not eat the paint chips👆
@@brunswicksquaremusic5905 This has nothing to do with real world politics. Discovery had some decent story lines but the show lost many long term fans. It was nothing original just a filler piece in an existing story that really made no sense. The show was just bad.
@@alejandronopasanada5302 yes, eating paint chips makes you think Star Trek discovery is somehow good. Crusher/bones/bashir and Pulaski all agree. Even phlox questions your sanity for liking discovery.
@@olliek2837 that’s some storm trooper level friendly fire skipping over that other comment.
Hi! My question is where is exactly Calypso, 1000 years of the future of season 5? Or 1000 years after season 2? Saludos desde Argentina
Season 1 and 2 were pretty bad, season 3 was okay but way too depressing in outlook, season 4 I remember actually enjoying somewhat, will see how season 5 goes
season 4 was boring and dragged out. I hope season 5 isn't so bad. my favourite would have to be either season 1 or 2
Oh, this will help, my Disco watching has been spotty.
How many timelines are possible?
To the extent of the human imagination.:)
Listening to this review confirms to me how I don’t want to watch any of these seasons at all anyways. Sounds terrible.
Discovery has a story? More like the writers throwing random **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. 😄😄😄😄
LOVE IT💙💙💙
dude thats a thicccc accent
Discovery was stupid imop
Star Trek Discovery would have been excellent WITHOUT Michael Burnham. 😂 She's my least favourite Captain, including Lorka
It makes me so happy that Discovery sucks so much. No one likes it.
It's my favorite
@@dickhardpicard Would've pegged you for a TNG fan =P
The characters are easily forgettable
Ultra Trek drama. Low vocal whispers in turbo lifts, corridors and engine room. I call it gay trek on mushrooms. Everyone has extreme emotional interactions with friend and foe.
In the back of my mind I’m thinking “Calypso” will join a long list of other subjects that a people now conditioned to accept mediocrity, will write head cannon for in the comment section of every UA-cam final discovery episode review. I ain’t gonna lie, I find head cannon pathetic when you pay time and money.
tilly needs to see the gym doctor. badly...
I hate this series, too fanciful with too many inconsistencies to both canon and science.
Your forgot all the hugging and crying...
Adopted brother of spock 😄 🤣
Saved me so much time! Couldn’t remember which season I was on when I last stopped watching … now realise it doesn’t matter, all seasons are equally boring 😂😢
it's absolute rubbish.
'We have to get the clue' , and the next clue, and the next.
Very poor storyline and writing.
Another shitty Alex Kurtzman series that has forgettable characters
I don’t know why I just did not like the cast very forgettable characters.
Just found this show and binged the first season. I think it's the best Star Trek series ever.
Shows how bad ass the Klingons are. Not the pretend bad ass that was Worf who managed to get his ass kicked in every hand to hand fight he was ever in. Shows the people talking like real people. Swearing like real people and fighting like real warriors, sometimes winning and sometimes losing, was refreshing.
I'm glad someone made a Star Trek series into the action series I thought possible.
Not more of the politically correct mediocre crap they have made for the last 50 or so years.
Ok there were some aspects that annoyed me but all in all I will hate to see it end.
Saying Discovery is not politically correct, or less so than the previous shows like TNG or DS9 etc., is just flat out incorrect. It is less sanitary, sure, but less politically correct? Absolutely not. In fact, its political correctness appears to be the centerpiece of all of its writing and its mission.
Discovery takes the inhabitants of modern-day San Francisco and puts them on a 23rd century starship. The entire premise of Star Trek was that humanity has evolved (that is to say socially, intellectually, technologically and culturally). Putting early 21st century people facing early 21st century problems as Starfleet officers in Star Trek is just contradictory to what Star Trek was created to be. It's not an evolution of the franchise, it's a complete 180 degree turn.
Star Trek is also meant to be less about action and more about, well, anything else. Most of the time. The intellectual and philosophical storytelling combined with a TIMELESS commentary on social and political issues made Star Trek so distinct from, say, Star Wars, which always took a more fantasy-like approach to its storytelling and relied on action scenes far more.
The cast of Discovery feel like they would be right at home in a CW teen drama, something that can, absolutely, be enticing, fun, or even great, but has little to no connection to Star Trek.
The show is also quite mediocre in terms of its visuals, as the cinematographer seems to think that prime telephoto lenses with aperture wide open are somehow "cinematic", making a lot of the scenes more of a blurry mess. It is also VERY dark, as in you can't see that well, since it's so damn dark on the bridge etc.
The music is... there. Being forgettable.
The casting genuinely feels like a CW teen drama.
The respect to canon is non-existent, completely changing the Klingons because... why not, right? Star Trek's ret-cons, when they happened, had always been done to either fix a genuine problem with the story or to update the visuals. This is just... there because they thought it would be cool.
Look, there is nothing wrong with loving Discovery, but this has little to nothing in common with Star Trek apart from the name and very surface-level things. Is it any good? I'd say no, but taste is subjective. Is it Star Trek? In name only.
Thanks for recap! It's really needed!
My pleasure!
- Jack
@@TrekCentralsimp
🖖🖖😎🖖🖖♈🍁♈
I LOVE Discovery... it goes where ST has been afraid to go before. Very under rated show.
Where did it go that Star Trek was after to go before?
😆
@@roydowling2542For years the message boards were ablaze with people wanting to know; Do Klingons have 2 Kongs?” Discovery not only brought you that answer in a proud and memorable moment BUT, they also gave you….Koobs!? When I saw that strong Klingon woman SA-ing that dude (who had to have had one cut off….right? For The Empire), I thought to myself “Now THIS is Star Trek!”
Discovery was nothing inspirational, it was a mess of bad characters and story lines from other Trek series that were poorly blended together.
You're more suited for Hallmark movies.
😢 going to miss Discovery.
🙂🖖🏾