Top 6 Best and Worst Cross-Generation Evolutions in Pokémon!

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • Pokémon evolutions don't always happen in season, since occasionally after years of waiting a generation will gift a Pokémon with a new, more powerful form! Sometimes this does wonders for their popularity, and sometimes this is a confusing mess that leaves the Pokémon worse off then before, so let's see which later additions to Pokémon families rank among the best and the worst of all time! (Or at least for now, since there are so many we'll likely have to revisit this topic!)

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  • @joaquinfernandezaracil1703
    @joaquinfernandezaracil1703 Рік тому +258

    Dudunsparce is actually the middle evolution.
    The final evolution is called Dududusparce and will be introduced in gen 16

  • @JoshWink65
    @JoshWink65 Рік тому +83

    I'm not gonna try to convert you into loving dudunsparce, but I will say, the fact that it sort of transcends the boundaries of the games and exists purely to get a reaction out of the players feels so genius and is part of why I'm fully on board with it

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +23

      Yeah, to me that just makes it the "Last Jedi" of Pokemon, which is not a good thing; making things to intentionally get a rise out of fans is a bad call, no matter the field you're in...

    • @owengonzalez6819
      @owengonzalez6819 Рік тому +5

      @@emperorcubone When you put it that way, that does seem harsh. I’d give the rest of my opinions on Dunsparce’s controversy, but I already wrote a very long comment about some cross-gen Pokémon I wanted to talk about and I am not restating my Dunsparce argument.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen Рік тому +6

      @@emperorcubone luckily this was just 1 of a 100 or so mons instead of the meat in a trilogy looking to make a billion.

    • @ummelofilo9642
      @ummelofilo9642 Рік тому +4

      ​@PsyBlob it's own, disappointing thing

    • @Lissy_YT481
      @Lissy_YT481 Рік тому +9

      ​@@emperorcubone dude, the thing is that Dunsparce was designed to be a dissapointment since it was introduces, that's precisely it's so rare yet so weak.

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 Рік тому +439

    I kind of feel bad that Jynx never got an evolution yet Electabuzz & Magmar did

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +93

      Smoochum was just that bad!

    • @GhostieToasterStrudel
      @GhostieToasterStrudel Рік тому +62

      Doesnt surprise me do to it never being popular and on top of that having the whole controversy. Would of been nice to see them give it one with an actually nice design or stats so at least some people would use it. One of my least fav Pokémon but I’d be pleasantly surprised if they did something for it to change my mind.

    • @danielstonebraker656
      @danielstonebraker656 Рік тому +22

      Even Mr. Mime got one!

    • @jasond.b-w
      @jasond.b-w Рік тому +29

      @@GhostieToasterStrudel I also think this is it. Having a racist controversy is serious enough and the fact that one of the whole mon’s inspirations is risky territory, it would have been hard to draw even _more_ inspiration from it (or go hard in the Yuki-onna or Ganguro direction instead and erase everything else) without upsetting anyone. I think they just didn’t want to remind people of it on the whole.

    • @ksoundkaiju9256
      @ksoundkaiju9256 Рік тому +9

      GF probably just wanted to avoid Jynx

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken Рік тому +160

    For me, my favorite cross gen evolution is Mammoswine. I always thought Piloswine seemed incomplete. Seeing it become Mammoswine filled me with such joy. And it helps that it is soooooo good too

  • @carljameson3082
    @carljameson3082 Рік тому +27

    I really don't know why people expected so much from Dunsparce, of all Pokémon. Making a comically disappointing evolution to an already comically disappointing Pokémon seems like a perfect fit

  • @johntaylor1189
    @johntaylor1189 Рік тому +194

    Annihilape really makes me want a third stage for Hypno. I always saw Primeape and Hypno as counterparts, both being the B-version of better mons, Machamp and Alakazam.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +51

      Huh, I've literally never thought of any connection between those Pokemon, but it's interesting to see what other people find!

    • @createdforthemoment6740
      @createdforthemoment6740 Рік тому +10

      Do we call an evolution for Hypno Jared?

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому +21

      I can see hypno evolving into the sleep paralysis demon that sit in your chest eating your dream

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому +3

      Ghost type aswell

    • @johntaylor1189
      @johntaylor1189 Рік тому +7

      @@Watch-0w1 Or Dark. Hypno always seemed creepy enough to me.

  • @daponagegoogenburg807
    @daponagegoogenburg807 Рік тому +26

    Honestly, I did feel that Dunsparce needed something. But the fact that GF made it a big joke with Dudunsparce, just made me love it and I think is great that the evolution is literally just, an extra segment or two. 11/10, can’t wait for Dududunsparce.

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken Рік тому +161

    One thing worth mentioning on Electivire is the head horns. Elekid is a plug. Electabuzz is an antenna. Electivire is tesla coils.

    • @jmurray1110
      @jmurray1110 Рік тому +4

      Wait why does Japan use American style plugs
      They are some of the worst designs out there especially we we take the earlier ones without the third pin

    • @The64BitKid
      @The64BitKid Рік тому +5

      Yup, they use similiar plugs as in the us. But its not uncommen to design things around a large target group or things that are known or recognizable around the world such as a us plug. A small euro plug is two prongs aswell for example

    • @HeyHeyChey
      @HeyHeyChey Рік тому +1

      I guess the Magmar line fuses its blobs as they evolve... Its something

    • @doomsdayrabbit4398
      @doomsdayrabbit4398 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jmurray1110Probably because as Japan was modernizing in the 20's they were importing a lot of their electrical hardware from the US.

  • @janopsilver
    @janopsilver Рік тому +102

    The only one I am missig is Crobat. He is a huge upgrade from Golbat.
    But the I hate the most is Rhyperior. Well... Not Rhyperior itself. I used one for a long time, and I grew close to it, but it's just so far from the original stages. Rhydon is one of my absolute favourites, it really deserved an evoultion that is really an ubgrade in design too, not only in power. Maybe a Steel type evolution one day...

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +33

      Agreed on both counts! Crobat made a borderline hated Pokemon family beloved, while Rhyperior takes an amazing iconic design and throws in out the window!

    • @ksoundkaiju9256
      @ksoundkaiju9256 Рік тому +1

      @@emperorcubone I just Rhyperior as a Rhydon plated in armor as it evolves using a protector

    • @GhostieToasterStrudel
      @GhostieToasterStrudel Рік тому +1

      I agree on crobat but I don’t on rhyperior only part I feel separates it from the line is that they worked the evolution item into the design so it has the padding being a completely different color, which I could saw goes towards your point but tbh I personally like that it shows how the item helped it evolve by well somehow fusing with the Pokémon. I’m 50/50 on it personally I like that design aspect but never cared much for the line personally (don’t hate them just never used them besides when completing dex)

    • @qcaggro
      @qcaggro Рік тому

      I somehow am one of the three people with the opposite opinion, as I think Crobat is criminally ugly and that Rhyperior is pretty cool, not really caring about Rhydon one way or another.

    • @skanaraki2161
      @skanaraki2161 Рік тому +2

      For the life of me I still don't understand what people don't like about Rhyperior. The hate towards it feels like a psyop at this point.

  • @lukemurray6293
    @lukemurray6293 Рік тому +48

    Honchkrow single handedly got me back into pokemon games in gen 4.

  • @potter.felipematos
    @potter.felipematos Рік тому +68

    I always loved Scyther and took a while to like Scizor. But Kleavor amazed me from the first look, it's so epic!
    About the Mr.Mime line, I surprisingly liked the Galarian form and evolution. The connection of mimes, clowns and tap dancers or movie actors is the idea of entertainers and it feels a good progression imo

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 Рік тому +4

      Literally if I was a bug e4 or champ I'd have Scyther Scizor and Kleavor in a team with Centicsorch Golisipod and Heracross.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Рік тому

      ​@@mikemiller8430 I agree but replace Centiskorch and Golisopod with Galvantula and Volcarona for my team.

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 Рік тому

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy galvantula would replace Kleavor and forretress would replace scizor

    • @ShadeStormXD
      @ShadeStormXD Рік тому

      i just got my kleavor in legends arceus and i honestly am not fond of the design, looks to skinny and buglike and small, like a light breeze could crush its abdomen. the cleaver axe hands are cool but the rest of it i think couldve been a lot better

    • @mikemiller8430
      @mikemiller8430 Рік тому

      @@ShadeStormXD and that's why it's a rock type

  • @YoursTrulyHero
    @YoursTrulyHero Рік тому +22

    I love my dundunsparce. I think people overhyped themselves into thinking that it'd be some kind of crazy strong awesome looking serpentine pokemon a la gyarados and milotic but it didn't end up like that. I've been a fan of dunsparce since gen 2 and now I can use the bigger form to perfom much better in battles.

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen Рік тому +5

      Yeah it’s exactly what a Dunsparce evolution should be. They wanted Gyrados, we have Gyrados. Plus plenty of other serpentine dragons.

  • @066kshitizvsingh4
    @066kshitizvsingh4 Рік тому +42

    The fun thing is. Dudunsparce(just like Annihilape) has a lore for existing. Dunsparce is based of a Tsuchinoko, a snake like creature that is pretty much just a disappointment. So it makes sense it would evolve into something that is still a disappointment (think reverse Magikarp -> Gyarados)

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 Рік тому +20

    I like Smoochum! Ever since getting the Odd Egg as a kid and hatching a Smoochum with Dizzy Punch it’s always held a spot in my heart. I’m still holding out for that jynx evo. Maybe in a couple more decades.

  • @Carpinito927
    @Carpinito927 Рік тому +21

    It's funny that while almost totally useless in all other aspects of the franchise, Smoochum has found a niche as being a really good/borderline OP Pokémon to use for the level 1 dungeons in the Mystery Dungeon Series

    • @redculturedash8074
      @redculturedash8074 Рік тому +1

      What do you mean “Level 1”? I’ve gone into Zero Isle dungeons as Smoochum and Jynx.

  • @The_PokeSaurus
    @The_PokeSaurus Рік тому +19

    I wish we had more Scizor styled evolutions where the stat total is the same but the stats get moved around, making it feel less like an evolution and more like a form choice. I could see one for Shuckle.

  • @Ryodraco
    @Ryodraco Рік тому +24

    Say what you will, while it's not what anyone may have expected I love my giant silly segmented cryptid serpent Dudunsparce. 🙂 That it is actually useful in battle helps too.

    • @Sheogoratful
      @Sheogoratful Рік тому +1

      Useful for what?

    • @Ryodraco
      @Ryodraco Рік тому +2

      @@Sheogoratful Stab Boomburst if you want to go the special attack route, stronger Serene Grace shenanigans with Glare, Headbutt, Bite and Roost if you go the physical route. Hyper Drill is just a strong move in general too.

  • @jamcalx
    @jamcalx Рік тому +9

    Magamar line is actually loosely based on the Karura, a Japanese Buddhist transliteration of the Hindu divine creature Garuda, having the head of a bird and body like a human. Its fire typing and head come from the "karura clouds," a flaming nimbus or halo often adorning behind the statue of Buddhist deity Fudo-myo.
    Mr. Ryme is definitely a mix of tapping and ENGLISH actor Charlie Champlin during his silent film days.
    Also, I always feel bad for Jynx as the controversy between its yukionna/yamababa roots and the accusations of black face have tarnished an otherwise interesting character that could have gotten a cool more wild form that could lean it to its mountain hag inspiration.

    • @nazeersadek6705
      @nazeersadek6705 Рік тому +4

      I think they mixed in some elements from the boobies bird when designing Magmar

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому +1

      Jynx evolution seem to focus more on fashion trend than snow witch

    • @jamcalx
      @jamcalx Рік тому

      @murcielago Cruz true. I forgot it's gyaru/ganguro street fashion influences.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому

      @@jamcalx thinking next stage be a jrock or crazier idol

  • @cedriceichenauer4490
    @cedriceichenauer4490 Рік тому +8

    Honestly the only thing I expected out of an Dunsparce evolution was that the stats would be fine and that it looked more like a snake and not like a sandbag, nothing more, so I'm happy with the evolution. I mean you could say that it can be made better but you can say that to literally everything, I mean Garados never got the Dragon type. I think people just had too high expectations, were I just had the few mentioned. So all in all I like Dundunsparce no matter what you say.

  • @jayrome1884
    @jayrome1884 Рік тому +13

    I still think that Bisharp into Kingambit is an extremely cool Evolution, I love that your Bisharp has to prove itself in order to evolve.

  • @huntermengel2683
    @huntermengel2683 Рік тому +13

    I really liked the new Gen 4 evolutions, but I never understood why they were so hard to get, and basically not obtainable for a playthrough. Also, Jinx really needs some evo love, doesnt even need to be made OP, it could just get a design overhaul like Obstagoon and just be a new thing. Smoochum grosses me out, Jynx needs something else

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +7

      Yeah, Platinum made it a bit better, but I miss using things like Mamoswine or Dusknoir in regular Sinnoh....

  • @kaitogirldraws
    @kaitogirldraws Рік тому +3

    You didn't love or understand Dunsparce to begin with, you just cared abut what fans speculated of it. Dudunsparce is perfect.

  • @happymask8042
    @happymask8042 Рік тому +25

    Magmortar is a top 5 Pokemon for me. He looks like a Pokemon the bad guys would use and I love it.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +7

      You are right that it looks villainous, for how badly they corrupted Magmar, basically giving it it's own Dubious Disc...

    • @happymask8042
      @happymask8042 Рік тому +8

      @@emperorcubone Plus arm canons are just objectively cool.

    • @liannabunny7775
      @liannabunny7775 Рік тому +1

      @@emperorcuboneI won't lie and admit that Magmortar isn't very pretty, but I only used one in BDSP because I wanted a Fire Type-

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому

      ​@@happymask8042 but no hand :( how it survive. I say they should have been duck komondor dragon that spit fire

    • @skanaraki2161
      @skanaraki2161 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Watch-0w1 It has hands, but it retracts them into its arms to use as a cannon. You can literally see its fingers in almost all of its art. It's the exact same thing that Golurk does with its feet cannons.

  • @ThisNameIsVeryClever
    @ThisNameIsVeryClever Рік тому +6

    Lickilicky would make a good #1 for a top 10 most uncomfortable names list.

  • @TrvisXXIII
    @TrvisXXIII Рік тому +20

    To this day, I still forget which one is the evolution between chingling and chimecho because they both look like pre-evo’s to me
    Edit: also, I literally learned in this video that chimecho was a gen 3 Pokémon. I’ve never seen it in any hoenn game and they were so common in sinnoh that I assumed that’s when it was introduced, which is another reason why I didn’t know which one is the first form

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +5

      Yeah you'd think the Psychic gym in Mossdeep would show it off, but I guess it didn't go with the theme...

    • @Frokken
      @Frokken Рік тому +4

      Yeah it's found in like one area and is a rare encounter. It's such a weird choice.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому

      They look like pacman frog made of steel. There a good idea for it evolution
      Plus frog are know for it soynd

  • @Whale-Shark-Katie
    @Whale-Shark-Katie Рік тому +2

    “Arguably they keep adding unnerving creep pokemon”, I get how the other parts of the Mr Mime line are creepy, but how is Mr Rhyme creepy? Honestly imo it’s closer to cute than creepy

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +1

      Have you seen the stomach? Because it's seen you... Those eyes move and everything so you know they work, which is so unnerving!

  • @YungBaymax
    @YungBaymax Рік тому +8

    Agreed with everything except Dudunsparce, i will not accept this slander!!! It is the perfect troll pokemon and I love it for that

  • @kittensolder8818
    @kittensolder8818 Рік тому +4

    Hot take: I legitimately like Dudunsparce more than ANY fanmade Dunsparce evolution. Why? Because literally all of those fan evos are just slight design variations of ONE concept: "BIG COOL EPIC AWESOME SWAG DRAGON." Which without fail completely abandons any semblance of Dunsparce's original inspirations or themes such as the tsuchinoko, sphinx moth, digger bee etc. Everyone followed the exact same formula to the point where giving Dunsparce the least unique evolution in Pokémon history *was what made said evolution unique* because it WASN'T the same giant Dragon/Flying/Fairy/Ground-type Awesomesparce a million fanartists had already voiced their support of.

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV Рік тому +3

    But Dunsparce wasn’t “made” into a joke, that was the intention from the start. It’s inspiration, the Tsuchinoko, is literally a joke cryptid, being a fat useless snake who’s only supernatural quality is that it can double jump and is only cared about because it’s rarely seen due to its cowardice. I won’t lie, I also used to be one to wish Dunsparce evolved into fierce dragon, but over time and a good while before SV came out the the prospect began to bore me. If Dunsparce did evolve the way the fans expected, would I be satisfied or would I just be left sitting there thinking “Ok, we got exactly what we wanted, now what?”. It started to feel like having the dream of an evolution was better than having that wish granted. When Dudunsparce was revealed, it took a minute to click, but after that I loved it, how it kept Dunsparce’s quirkyness and how it doubled down on the joke that Dunsparce always was and I respect whoever made that decision.

  • @DrTimes99
    @DrTimes99 Рік тому +8

    Lickitung should have evolved into a normal/poison type called Ickitung.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому

      Into a pacman frog/ chameleon

  • @nightfrostbreeze
    @nightfrostbreeze Рік тому +3

    TBH I usually forget about Chingling too but whenever I'm reminded of it I just think about how cute it is! It's round!

  • @nazeersadek6705
    @nazeersadek6705 Рік тому +14

    I do agree that if Dudunsparce was normal/ ground then I honestly wouldn’t have any problem with it

  • @Lankpants
    @Lankpants Рік тому +3

    I kind of love Dudunsparce though. It's such a derpy Pokemon, which is great because Dunsparce is already a giant derp. Definitely not going to be for everyone but I really love the weirdoes in Pokemon and Dudunsparce just works for me.

  • @bravewater5737
    @bravewater5737 Рік тому +5

    Now that I think about it, there is no Normal type Paradox Pokemon.
    How about a past form for Snorlax? It can be called Slumbering Wrath or something like that. It would be a Normal/Fighting type.

  • @Skrattmas
    @Skrattmas Рік тому +3

    Fun fact: Mr. Rime is my favorite Ice-Type and are in my top 10 Pokémon-list of all time! I had a hard time with Mr. Mime in the past and sure Galarian Mr. Mime don't really look good either but Mr. Rime has become a great gentleman with a hat and stash so I can't complain!

    • @Dawg347
      @Dawg347 Рік тому

      Do not pass go.

  • @matthewcleary4685
    @matthewcleary4685 Рік тому +5

    Dudunsparce is hilarious lol

  • @liannabunny7775
    @liannabunny7775 Рік тому +8

    So um… recently I started to use a Shiny Annihilape for Tera Raids and I see why I always feared it… it's very scarily strong… using one at my disposal makes me feel less afraid

  • @Summonsloth
    @Summonsloth Рік тому +7

    Dudumbsparce could've at least been part ground...

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +2

      That's what I'm saying; a new type is by far the easiest way to justify a new evolution, even if the design is bad it at least has a real reason to set apart from the other one...

    • @Dan55888
      @Dan55888 Рік тому +3

      Yeah they could have literally done anything else and be more creative than what they did..

  • @shauryarawat3907
    @shauryarawat3907 Рік тому +7

    I wanna see if there is a chance to save these lines with new forms

  • @redkingdom15
    @redkingdom15 Рік тому +4

    These 6 Best & Worst videos are your bread & butter in terms of content, so thank you for continuing to make them! Been watching for a long time Emperor!

  • @RFE812
    @RFE812 Рік тому +4

    Weavile is one of my favorite cross gen evolutions. Sneasel was very underwhelming back in its debut so seeing them fixing this was a nice touch. Too bad Chien-Pao basically just made Weavile obsolete.

  • @donnaroe
    @donnaroe Рік тому +8

    Great list! I’ll still never understand why they greenlit Lickilicky in the first place - like, who is it for? Why did they think people wanted it 😭

    • @donnaroe
      @donnaroe Рік тому +1

      @@BalloonSeasonArchive OOO that's really interesting! thanks for sharing! I actually kinda enjoy the scrapped gen 2 one

    • @Oturan20
      @Oturan20 Рік тому

      Lickilicky would've worked better as a Pre-evolution, nearly everything about it's design (except for it's size) says it should be a baby Pokémon.

  • @cmtosh2409
    @cmtosh2409 Рік тому +2

    I unironically love Dudunsparce just because it’s funny and makes people upset.

  • @Smuggy97
    @Smuggy97 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, I love Mr. Rime. He looks so dapper and dashing, like he's gonna invite me out for some tea. He tore apart many a trainer for me when I needed it

  • @bananaspice1967
    @bananaspice1967 Рік тому +2

    How dare you say Dudunsparce is the worst. It's literally perfect. It's the embodiment of Dunsparce. It's not supposed to be majestic, powerful, beautiful. It's supposed to be stupid and a joke.

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 Рік тому +5

    Great job, Emperor Cubone. I think we can agree that as much as I love this region, Johto is a really odd case when it comes to the type of Pokemon it introduces. On one hand, we get brilliance like Scizor, Crobat, and Kingdra. On the other hand, we get Bellossom, that’s not only a total downgrade and a waste of a stone but didn’t get a stat buff Vileplume would get in Gen 6.

    • @Halberds8122
      @Halberds8122 Рік тому

      I like bellossom for its looks and not much else. Perhaps they should have made it a fast sweeper with lots of coverage.

    • @AuraStrikeAce
      @AuraStrikeAce Рік тому

      I like Bellossom, it's cute

  • @mattdabeast315
    @mattdabeast315 Рік тому +8

    Primeape has a base stat of 455 and you called it respectable like, it needed all the help it can get. Annihilape was the right call and it look and battle awesome 😊

    • @fishfox
      @fishfox Рік тому +1

      Primape has same base stats as hitmons which people consider as good enough plus nobody ever factors their sp.att for them (effective average base stats 84 w/o counting sp.att)

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 Рік тому +1

      fishfox IMO, the Hitmons are also falling prey to power creep quite badly. Pure Fighting types with base 455 stats (2/3rd of which are defensive mons with base 50 HP) and niche abilities just doesn't cut it anymore. The issue is that making a variant/evolution for one of them means making one for all of them.

    • @TheNadroj10
      @TheNadroj10 Рік тому

      Give them broken items such as a thick club clone, that doubles their attack stat or defenses. Problem solved and they keep their look

  • @redmage5251
    @redmage5251 Рік тому +2

    dudunsparce was funny for about a week and that's the nicest thing I can say about it

  • @notayoutubechannel.
    @notayoutubechannel. Рік тому +2

    I feel like gamefreak made dudunsparce just to have the fandom shut up about wanting dunsparce evolution

  • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
    @rayyaninspookymonth1630 Рік тому +15

    That dudunsparce part feels like a blow to the stomach but I do agree that it should have gained the dragon ground type somewhere, I say it's an evolution to say the most.

    • @heriknogueiracezar8945
      @heriknogueiracezar8945 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, even if he feels like it deserves a place in the 6 worst (I personally don't but it might be bias), he ain't worse that Chingling

  • @LAZERAK47V2
    @LAZERAK47V2 3 місяці тому +1

    My favorite thing about Annihilape is that, if you evolve your Primape rather than catching an Annihilape in the wild, YOU are responsible for its inability to find peace in death. YOU turned it into a wrathful spirit by forcing it to use Rage Fist until it died.
    Pokemon may stand for Pocket Monsters, but in this case, YOU are the monster.

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 Рік тому +3

    The reason why Dundunsparce failed is because people’s expectations were unrealistic after all the Fanart. There’s only so many designs you can do before it feels samey to someone else’s design. And GameFreak and Pokémon could only do so much after years and years of Fanart taking over designs.
    Could they still have done better? Maybe, but after all this time and all this hype, they wouldn’t be able to please the fans anyways.
    I would have liked to have its BST be at least 30+ points higher overall, but what are you going to do?😊

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 Рік тому

      the reason dudunsparce failed is because it was designed to fail

  • @marioipod
    @marioipod Рік тому +1

    I hit the like button before I even got past the intro. Keep up the cool videos Emperor Cubone!

  • @MetallicPetals
    @MetallicPetals Рік тому +2

    I myself adore Dudunsparce, it's so stupid that it just works and I used one on my team for the first time and I am happy I did!

  • @vortexius8458
    @vortexius8458 Рік тому +13

    Dunsparce has been my second favorite Pokemon for years, and honestly I prefer the Dudunsparce we got to the fanart you showed. Personal preference, I guess. There are certainly other fan evolutions of it out there that I do prefer, but I'm happy that they just doubled down on what I already liked about Dunsparce instead of going in a wildly different direction. TL;DR: yes, it could be better, but my simple tastes are still satisfied with it both gameplay-wise and design-wise.

  • @ExistingKirb
    @ExistingKirb Рік тому +1

    Good video! I liked the part when you completely missed the point of the Dunsparce line and proceeded to get mad about it.

  • @Rot8erConeX
    @Rot8erConeX Рік тому +1

    "Ending up as a joke is very different from intending to be one". Cool, good thing Dunsparce was the latter. Tsukinoko, "fat snake", was always a joke yokai.

  • @Aaroncarter95
    @Aaroncarter95 Рік тому +3

    I still think Porygon2 should be a branching evolution. One where it upgraded correctly and one where it glitched out.

  • @ThatAlchemistGuy
    @ThatAlchemistGuy Рік тому +2

    I actually love dudunsparce. GF knew what they were doing, and even the name is a joke, sounding like a sting (the da dum tss sound on drums and a cymbal). It was a huge troll, and mad respect to GF for doing that. I'm definitely in the minority, but I think its genius

    • @redmage5251
      @redmage5251 Рік тому

      making dudunsparce bad on purpose still makes it bad

    • @ThatAlchemistGuy
      @ThatAlchemistGuy Рік тому

      @@redmage5251 lol i wasnt saying anything about it being good or bad/viable or not. Just said that the name is perfect

  • @mv0lpe427
    @mv0lpe427 Рік тому +1

    I disagree on your magmorter take. I think him having flame thrower cannons for hands is dope. Great video tho keep up the good work!

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 Рік тому +1

    Hey I love how memeworthy Dudunsparse is. It's evolution is as rare as a shiny for a joke.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 4 місяці тому

      The second S in Dudunsparce is supposed to be a C! And we DO NOT use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it!

  • @ChaoticTeen16
    @ChaoticTeen16 Рік тому +3

    I have to disagree with you on Dudunsparce. Aside from the Type combo - which I agree should have been changed - the only legitimate reason for disappointment is the massive expectations people had for it , and that's a flimsy one at best.
    Dudunsparce is a perfect Evolution for Dunsparce, and no-one can tell me otherwise.

    • @ExistingKirb
      @ExistingKirb Рік тому +2

      Pokemon fans love tricking themselves into thinking they’re getting something (In this case, a big cool-looking Dunsparce evolution) and then when they don’t get it they get upset.

    • @ChaoticTeen16
      @ChaoticTeen16 Рік тому

      @@ExistingKirb Exactly. Their expectations are set too high.

  • @macappleoverwatchclipsmore8525

    People who don't think Dudunsparce is great don't understand why Dunsparce was great in the first place.
    Also the lack of presence of Steelix kills this list. 💀

  • @arininquotes8396
    @arininquotes8396 Рік тому +2

    I do agree that Electivire is a vast improvement on Electabuzz, although ever since playing PLA, I really wish it had been dual electric/ice. The interpretation of it as a sasquatch-like creature also fits that.

  • @JordanDeeb28
    @JordanDeeb28 Рік тому +5

    While a lot of the other Beta baby forms (like elekid specifically) weren’t that great, Beta Magby is superior to the Magby we got

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +2

      That's what I'm saying! It could've been far better...

    • @Vigriff
      @Vigriff Рік тому +2

      *Quickly looks up Beta Magby* WTF were they thinking?!

  • @Ah0yKatie
    @Ah0yKatie Рік тому +1

    Funny you say "nobody wanted this" for Dunsparce, if you look at Bogleech's Pokemon reviews, they basically literally described Dudunsparce as the exact kind of evolution they'd want for Dunsparce way before Dudunsparce actually happened because... they actually understood the origin and basis behind it

  • @LowReedExpert1
    @LowReedExpert1 7 місяців тому

    I feel like they could have nailed Dudunsparce as a joke pokemon by just making it a three stage evolution, with each evolution adding a body segment.
    Evolving and getting 2 segments would be a letdown, but then you hear it evolves again. So you train it up, and it evolves, and it's the same bad joke again.
    The ironic letdown would have been incredible

  • @CalypsoTheWanderingStar
    @CalypsoTheWanderingStar Рік тому +2

    Dunsparce is based on a tsuchinoko, a fat little snake in Japanese mythology. It was always meant to be a joke since tsuchinoko aren't taken seriously by anyone.

  • @angelwhispers2060
    @angelwhispers2060 Рік тому

    Actually the who part of the creation of the dubious disc was expressly explained as one of the Team Rocket scientists. But what the corruption of the dubious disc was supposed to achieve was never really explained

  • @lerdog
    @lerdog 7 місяців тому +1

    Dudunsparce is amazing, probably my #1 cross gen evo. It's frustrating in the most amazing way, I'll die in this hill.

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 Рік тому +1

    Sorry Emperor, but Dudunsparce has my full support for being the way it is.

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 Рік тому +1

    Chingling seemed like it was included in DP because the devs were worried that Chimecho was just too strong for the early game.

  • @revenantuchiha9104
    @revenantuchiha9104 Рік тому

    Rowletts final evolution is a homage to the owls who are NOW extinct native to the land that it’s representing outside of the game. Your welcome.

  • @Ruszard23
    @Ruszard23 Рік тому

    as a magmortar fan, i am hurt. you didn't have to roast him like that, he already is roasted.

  • @hisshoes1107
    @hisshoes1107 Рік тому +1

    It’s crazy how your “worst list” goes back and forth from being 100% correct to 100% wrong, Magmar, Mime, and Dunsparce don’t deserve to be there at all, the Magmar line is just as good as the Elektabuzz line, Rime is a cool (pun intended) tap dancer juggler thing, and Dunsparce is literally perfection incarnate. Putting those three anywhere near the Chingling line or (specifically) Smoochum is a disservice to all cross-gen evolutions

  • @Savannah_Simpson
    @Savannah_Simpson Місяць тому

    I wasn’t a huge fan of Mr Rime, but the I saw a UA-cam video of him dancing around twirling his cane and I started to kind of see his charm.

  • @Ryanwizardstaff
    @Ryanwizardstaff Рік тому +1

    Nah Magmortar looks sick with those arm cannons agree to disagree. Also I just love Lickylicky it’s so dumb and fun.

  • @tiagocardosom
    @tiagocardosom Рік тому +3

    I had a Porygon-Z in Platinum that was amazing on the battle frontier

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 Рік тому +1

    I might be in the minority here, but I actually like Smoocum, it is just so adorable. Jynx, however, I wish would disappear and never return. Maybe if they gave it an evolution it might become more likable, but right now, I wish I never have to see it anymore.

  • @Seraserastria
    @Seraserastria Рік тому

    The fact that Dudunsparce is number one worst is perfect. Genuinely couldn't have asked for anything better as a Dunsparce evolution. After decades of seeing fanart of possible evolutions for the little guy, I wouldn't have been impressed if GameFreak just tried to do that. Honestly, the only comment I'd have is "too little too late". But Dudunsparce got a laugh out of me, I adore it.

  • @inuboy2005
    @inuboy2005 Рік тому +1

    I think Dudunsparce is really dumb, and I love it.

  • @Leonardovideogoes
    @Leonardovideogoes Рік тому +1

    Dunsparce never been overlooked, poid was always a joke

  • @nunoalmeida2749
    @nunoalmeida2749 Рік тому +1

    I feel like you didn't really get the point of dunsparce. That pokémon is meant to be a disappointment it'd always become a disappointment Evo

  • @magicdreemurr3771
    @magicdreemurr3771 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for putting Dudunsparce where it rightfully belongs. The most boring and disappointing evolution.

  • @Rivecha
    @Rivecha Рік тому +1

    How dare you insult Dudunsparce, the objectively greatest Pokemon of all time

  • @owengonzalez6819
    @owengonzalez6819 Рік тому +2

    If you do make another video about this topic, I’d love to see Crobat, Kingdra, Togekiss, and Weavile. These guys are incredible upgrades to their pre-stages and some of my favorites! Also, thought I’d share my thoughts about Dudunsparce (my opinions entirely):
    Dunsparce has been around for almost 25 years, and some of its pals like Yanma or Sneasel have gotten evolutions that vastly improved their capabilities (arguably Yanmega deserved some more upgrading), so it’s no surprise that over the years, power creep, pure Normal, and other gen 2 Pokémon getting evos, Dunsparce had become less and less useful than back in gen 2 when it could be considered a tank. Naturally, Dunsparce needed an evolution to catch up with the times, but I think people’s expectations were too high. What should Golbat evolve into? A more athletic bat. What should Tangela evolve into? A larger mess of -Haribo Sour Spaghetti- vines. What should Yanma evolve into? A larger dragonfly. What should Dunsparce evolve into? A magnificent dragon? No. (Well, the Dragon type can stay, I’d say Dunsparce deserves at least that.) Now, yes, Dudunsparce’s design has room for improvement (notably those tiny wings), but it’s far from terrible. In fact, it’s fitting. Dunsparce was a snake that evolved into a larger snake. Most evolution changes haven’t been very extreme, which is fine. Why should Dunsparce receive an evolution that changes so much when the others got simple evolutions? And no. Dunsparce and Magikarp are not comparable. Magikarp’s stats are garbage, it needed Gyarados. Dunsparce’s stats were ok, but not horrible. Yes I’m aware that gen 1 was almost 30 years ago and Pokémon has changed a lot since then. But Dunsparce getting special treatment with an evolution that drastically changes its design when compared to other previously mentioned evolutions is just unfair. I won’t say Dudunsparce is perfect, pure Normal is very lackluster, but Dudunsparce is not a bad Pokémon. It got what everyone else got: an evolution that’s comparable to the original with a stat change slight enough that it’s strong, but not OP (unlike Annihilape, seriously, that thing is BUSTED.). Not sure what else I can say, Dudunsparce isn’t perfect, but it’s a great evolution for a great Pokémon.

    • @reeseolsen4052
      @reeseolsen4052 Рік тому +1

      Magikarp to Gyarados also has the bit about the fish jumping the waterfall to become a dragon which can loosely be seen in the Coronet Highlands in Legends Arceus where at the foot of the waterfall just a little north of Fabled Spring where you can find Cleffa, Clefairy & Clefable you have several Magikarp and at the top of the waterfall are a couple Gyarados.
      As for Dunsparce one of its inspirations is the cryptid Tsuchinoko which can honestly be described as a snake, but with a large central girth compared to the typical snake. I'm also probably more biased toward it because while it wasn't shiny the first and only Dunsparce I caught in S/V evolved into the rarer 3 segment body rather than the more common 2 which was something I didn't know about until afterwards. On top of this is the fact that to me its name sounds similar to the Ba Dum Tss drum & cymbal tune used for some jokes. In addition to this it's not as though it isn't possible for Dunsparce to get something else such as a separate evolution method or a past/future paradox where it actually is a large serpentine dragon with either dragon or ground added to its normal typing as Dragon/Ground begins to invade on the likes of Flygon & Garchomp. On a tangent of sorts, I to this day still dislike Garchomp getting what I feel is a lackluster mega while Flygon doesn't get anything.

    • @owengonzalez6819
      @owengonzalez6819 Рік тому +1

      @@reeseolsen4052 those are some valid points. I was already aware of the Magikarp to Gyarados and Magikarp inspirations, and I must say you are lucky to have gotten a 3-segmented Dudunsparce! It would definitely be cool to maybe see a Paradox Dunsparce evo in the upcoming DLC, who knows

    • @ummelofilo9642
      @ummelofilo9642 Рік тому

      The pokémon is greatly disappointing, my dude. It's insulting.

  • @ccburdett
    @ccburdett Рік тому +1

    I will say that for my previous playthrough of Pokémon X, I used Dunsparce just because of the hate it got. And it became one of my best fighters in the game - it dominated.

  • @kevandre
    @kevandre Рік тому +4

    Highkey I've always loved Magmortar. Never really understood why everyone hates it

  • @StevenDaniels81
    @StevenDaniels81 Рік тому +5

    I actually quite like Mr. Rime compared to the other three members of his line but to each their own I guess.
    And also with Dunsparce. Yeah it's kinda of letdown but it's the most Dunsparce thing to do by evolving like that.

    • @mlpfanboy1701
      @mlpfanboy1701 2 місяці тому +1

      Mr rime shouldnt even be on this list. Its not a cross gen evolution, its verry much an in gen evolution.

  • @Qvartz_Lite
    @Qvartz_Lite Рік тому +1

    I will not tolerate no Dudunsparce slander

  • @potatoqueen5248
    @potatoqueen5248 Рік тому +1

    Dudunspacre is a meme Pokémon and I love it. People hyped up over something they made up and got mad when it didn’t happen.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 4 місяці тому

      The C in Dudunsparce should be after the R!

  • @nathanblackburn1193
    @nathanblackburn1193 Рік тому

    I don't get why people say Lickilicky's tongue is shorter when the pokedex mentions the record length is over 82 feet and that it's tongue can stretch, so if you use your brain even a little then you could figure out that Lickilicky's tongue *is* longer than Lickitung's it just keeps it in its mouth because it's more convenient, the pokedex also explains that Lickilicky uses its tongue more than its hands hence why they're so stubby though whether or not that makes it better is up to you

  • @strombreakr
    @strombreakr Рік тому +4

    I will not stand for the Magby and Mr. Rime slander. Magby looks exactly like a baby Magmar. Of course Mr. Rime is Charlie Chaplin! He was a British pop culture phenomenon! *He made the toothbrush style of mustache fashionable!*

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому

      To be clear, I don't necessarily have a problem with a Chaplin Pokemon, just it being an evolution to a dancing Mr. Mime for no reason, (and I cannot stress enough the stomach face, which I'm 86% sure the real man did not have...)

  • @Leto85
    @Leto85 Рік тому

    What I love most about these cross-generation Pokémon is their ability to get ribbons others from their latest gen don't have. It's great for origin mark hunters as well.

  • @dianehamilton2649
    @dianehamilton2649 Рік тому +1

    Dudunsparce: *gigachad noises intensify*

  • @ravus9935
    @ravus9935 Рік тому

    Chingling is one of my favorite Pokémon ever and I adore its design. Maybe it shouldn't have been related to Chimecho, but Chingling is such an adorable baby Pokémon with so much charm and such a simple, but expressive design.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 Рік тому +1

    baby forms are pointless unless you want to get a pseudo legendary early like Gible for Garchomp. Regional evolution forms don't solve the issue for the original like Farfetch'd.
    Cross Gen evolutions for the win

  • @kalemjade5258
    @kalemjade5258 15 днів тому

    my only issue with mr. rime is that they BROKE THE NAMING CONVENTION. IT WAS CLEARLY SUPPOSED TO GO MIME JR, MR. MIME, MIME SR.
    if he were exactly the same but named Mime Sr. I'd love him

  • @polypolar715
    @polypolar715 Рік тому +1

    I. LOVE. DUDUNSPARCE. I will not tolerate any Dudunsparce slander

  • @omarmendez0402
    @omarmendez0402 Рік тому +6

    Honorable Mention Worst:
    Bisharp → Kingambit
    Honorable Mention Best:
    Girafarig → Farigiraf

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Рік тому +2

      I don't disagree with either of those statements!

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking Рік тому

      Man bisharp didnt need an evo, if anything it's evolution level should've been lowered cuz it's abit high for the BST of bisharp

    • @devildolphin2102
      @devildolphin2102 Рік тому +6

      Man what are y’all smoking Kingambit is the GOAT

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Рік тому

      Idk about girafarig. I was hoping it go back to it beta version of his black rear become dark copy. Like catdog