Thank you for being in this doco! I would love to see high profile nuerospicy celebrities come out and play a game together, definitely a few in this doco. We need more representation to bring acceptance of us.
I was there for the panic, and I knew then they were wrong. i knew this game had great potential to reach people, to entertain them, and to help them learn those vital social skills. Because it did all those things and more for me. Great film. Thanks!
Table top has been one of my favorite things I started in the last couple years. Have two great groups and seeing 3 other grown ass adults teary eyed about a story we all created, in our heads, is something I will take to my grave. It can be magical.
I find it weird when women say that they weren't invited into the hobby...they usually weren't interested. In the '90s, being a nerd wasn't cool and there were few things considered nerdier than table top role playing games. Girls existed in that space, but they were somewhat of a rarity. It really started to change with the popularity of online games like WoW. It had a huge fan base, and nerd culture started to lose its stigma and became more mainstream.
Ahh...the satanic panic where they told people then we could actual summon creatures from the monsters manual. If that actually happened, do you know how many ancient black dragons or reds would be flying about? I'm so glad to see it come back. Just remember this...there are other RPGs and worlds outside and not just D&D. Go explore and find your home.
This is a very thoughtful and thought-provoking piece that shows the emotional impact of this great game. It is more than just books and dice, more than just sharing stories - it's sharing an experience together with others in a way that you'll never be able to otherwise. Thanks to everyone who put this together. Kudos.
I don’t think people realize how many lives this game has saved by allowing people who otherwise might not have been able to make friends find a purpose.
I remember the panic back in the 80s over D&D, I used to tell people it is no different than being an actor in a play, on tv, or in a movie. It's roleplaying, there's nothing to do with devil worshipping in it.
"not a hobby that girls were invited into" You know how thrilled my group in the 90s would have been to have a chick sit at the table? Give me a fucking break. Youre such a trailblazer for playing a board game, so stunning, so brave.
This is so well done! I wish there were resources to connect some of these awesome DMs to local LGS spaces to teach or help new DMs and new LGSes create the same level of experience for more players. First time hearing about the Adams / Game to Grow, I hope they keep going.
About time that someone focuses on D&D in it's truest light, vs all the bickering and in-fighting over all of the 'isms' out there on the interwebz today. Well done!
Most didnt even 15 years ago it would be rare, most girls are not intrested into sci fi or fantasy stuff and those who are have never been held back from anything.
I enjoyed this, however, if you are going to try to discuss role playing games in a general way, maybe make mention that there are many many more than just D&D, because otherwise this comes off as being a 40 minute ad for Wizards of the Coast who are not really doing right by the fans of D&D (and Tabletop RPGs in general) right now.
@@danacoleman4007 well two main reasons: first there are a number of videos to this effect that have come into existence by other creators on this platform since I originally posted this. Secondly (to be gentle) I have a face for radio …. lol. J/k Due to certain physical conditions I don’t have the physical energy it takes to be a UA-cam creator.
It was great seeing the nuerospicy and other minority groups represented. Definitely would like a much deeper dive into that particular world as it seems like this many year doc was just a tiny peek at what was captured, so hopefully they dive into more later on. Particularly the nuerospicy celebrities and us mere mortals as there is such limited representation for us in media for neurotypicals to accept and understand us beyond often harmful stereotypes in mainstream media.
20:10 I'm not sure what you are talking about. I have never run or played in a game where people were turned away because of sex or skin color. Only known cheaters, liars, and grief players were singled out for exclusion and I've played and run games on 3 Countries and 6 States. Maybe the problem is that you were trying to play D&D and not one of 200 other games available on the market.
You're fortunate you've never experienced this discrimination. As a female, I was definitely discouraged from playing or blatantly turned away from games. And no, it wasn't just a D&D thing. Gaming was a "boys' club" activity. I am happy to say that things have changed and gaming culture is far more inclusive now, but it wasn't always.
1) "It was not a hobby girls were invited into". More like, it was not a hobby any girl in the world would start up let alone get into had it not been intruduced my a male.
Great segment but I was really hoping they would have addressed the unnecessary hatred that the D&D game was so well known for all because of a news segments and the 60 minutes segment. I remember watching it in a high school news club and our teacher who was also the psychology teacher pointed out on it where even Gary Gygax pointed out the only time a child is have major issues is because their parent isn't doing their job of being a parent and that is to be looking after their childs well being. Fast forward to modern times and parents and new stations are doing the same thing, blaming an external force for their child decline in health, happiness, and well being. Tiktok, Onlyfans, Facebook/Instagram, violence in media, misogyny and illegal drug use in music lyrics, "Dungeons and Dragons made my kid kill themselves", and the list goes on and on.
Women weren't invited is just the same, tired, and false narrative. It's clickbait. I've seen so many invited but because they saw a room full of guys, they walked away. There might have been more but it was hard to get a first making it the second woman even more difficult. It's anecdotal and paints a terrible picture of what would have been a welcoming community for the majority. I will not say there weren't bad people. There are always bad people.
Just because you personally didn't experience it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Please don't dismiss others' experiences just because they didn't happen to YOU. I DID experience unwelcoming attitudes or flat-out being turned away because I'm female. While attitudes around gaming have changed since then, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@@imayb1 Your experience, still being anecdotal, doesn't mean it happened to every woman at every table. Just because it did happen to YOU, doesn't mean it happened to EVERYONE. Your use of capitalization wasn't the mic drop you hoped for.
I have been playing D&D and other TTRPGs for over 20 years and no has ever gate kept anyone out of it. That is a total lie that keeps being told over and over about TTROGs, MTG, Comic books, and anything else that was once considered nerdy. Everyone was always welcomed to play. I am tired of hearing people who jumped on the new fad, and utter these lies.
Not everyone has the same experiences as you. If you've been gaming as long as you have, you'll know, at least back in the day, so many of us were trying to game with the very few people we could find who did it and, sad to say, not all of them were nice people. I struggled for a long while to find anyone, and some people just weren't safe or comfortable for girls to game with back then, but also, over-all, I do agree that gamers as a whole are more accepting and open to people of all ages, abilities, races and genders taking part in the hobby, especially nowadays! Not everyone has been a gatekeeper, but it has happened. I'm just so glad its so much easier for young folk to game these days and to find people, at home or online, to play with! Next year will mark the 30th anniversary of my first game I ever played as a 12 year old kid, I can hardly believe its been that long!
I've been playing and running tabletop RPGs for over 30 years. I have personally experienced gatekeeping in the hobby, though not so much recently. Plenty of incidences of unpleasant individuals who made women uncomfortable. Your experience can not be generalised.
The speakers talking about self insert (Mary Sue) characters and sound like they're making up "lived experiences" that press a political narrative are contrary to the point of Immersion and roleplaying
D&D is the glue that has kept our friendship group together since the 80's. I love my mates & I love the game.
So grateful we could be a part of this!
Thank you for being in this doco! I would love to see high profile nuerospicy celebrities come out and play a game together, definitely a few in this doco. We need more representation to bring acceptance of us.
It was great seeing Game To Grow represented, and I think having The C Team in this documentary may have encouraged that.
A.G.
Great thing you're doing! I work with kids in the North of England and think I might be able to do something on the same lines here.
As someone who survived the satanic panic of the 80's it is gratifying to see the hobby I love, come to a place of acceptance and understanding.
Survived? Did an angry mob try to burn you at the stake or are you just being overly dramatic? ;)
Brilliant documentary
Having Liam represent CR was a wise choice. He is easily the emotional engine of the group.
Nice doc, maybe a little too short, but very sweet. Deborah Ann Woll is such a fun player to watch, wish she had more in-person games to watch.
Most of my favorite DND people were in this, thank you. I'm going to show this to people who may not understand.
I was there for the panic, and I knew then they were wrong. i knew this game had great potential to reach people, to entertain them, and to help them learn those vital social skills. Because it did all those things and more for me. Great film. Thanks!
Table top has been one of my favorite things I started in the last couple years. Have two great groups and seeing 3 other grown ass adults teary eyed about a story we all created, in our heads, is something I will take to my grave. It can be magical.
I find it weird when women say that they weren't invited into the hobby...they usually weren't interested.
In the '90s, being a nerd wasn't cool and there were few things considered nerdier than table top role playing games.
Girls existed in that space, but they were somewhat of a rarity.
It really started to change with the popularity of online games like WoW. It had a huge fan base, and nerd culture started to lose its stigma and became more mainstream.
Ahh...the satanic panic where they told people then we could actual summon creatures from the monsters manual. If that actually happened, do you know how many ancient black dragons or reds would be flying about? I'm so glad to see it come back. Just remember this...there are other RPGs and worlds outside and not just D&D. Go explore and find your home.
Funny seeing the older CR set, this must’ve been a filmed a while ago!
This is a very thoughtful and thought-provoking piece that shows the emotional impact of this great game. It is more than just books and dice, more than just sharing stories - it's sharing an experience together with others in a way that you'll never be able to otherwise. Thanks to everyone who put this together. Kudos.
I don’t think people realize how many lives this game has saved by allowing people who otherwise might not have been able to make friends find a purpose.
thousand times like button!
I know I'd much rather spend time with my friends creating stories than passively consuming someone else's.
I remember the panic back in the 80s over D&D, I used to tell people it is no different than being an actor in a play, on tv, or in a movie. It's roleplaying, there's nothing to do with devil worshipping in it.
That was absolutely amazing and beautifully done.
Awesome my husband Jerry has a booth there, someday I'll go visit and take a mini break from my teacher schedule hehe
Love games like d&d and pathfinder
Awesome video
I'm crying, Kate Welch.
"not a hobby that girls were invited into"
You know how thrilled my group in the 90s would have been to have a chick sit at the table? Give me a fucking break.
Youre such a trailblazer for playing a board game, so stunning, so brave.
Beautiful
Loved it!
I can't like this enough. Made me tear up ❤️
This is so well done! I wish there were resources to connect some of these awesome DMs to local LGS spaces to teach or help new DMs and new LGSes create the same level of experience for more players. First time hearing about the Adams / Game to Grow, I hope they keep going.
This was SOOO GOOD! Very well done. Thanks to all that participated and made this possible.
Super great and inspiring!
Great for me to be part of the quest
About time that someone focuses on D&D in it's truest light, vs all the bickering and in-fighting over all of the 'isms' out there on the interwebz today. Well done!
Ladies were always welcome to try.
Most didnt even 15 years ago it would be rare, most girls are not intrested into sci fi or fantasy stuff and those who are have never been held back from anything.
I enjoyed this, however, if you are going to try to discuss role playing games in a general way, maybe make mention that there are many many more than just D&D, because otherwise this comes off as being a 40 minute ad for Wizards of the Coast who are not really doing right by the fans of D&D (and Tabletop RPGs in general) right now.
why don't you make a video?
@@danacoleman4007 well two main reasons: first there are a number of videos to this effect that have come into existence by other creators on this platform since I originally posted this. Secondly (to be gentle) I have a face for radio …. lol. J/k Due to certain physical conditions I don’t have the physical energy it takes to be a UA-cam creator.
I heard Jim Darkmagic's voice at the beginning and knew I had to watch the rest.
We dismantled the "Barrier to Entry" and gone with it the Milieu, the essence of what the game was birthed from.
Honestly I always felt the opposite! Times change, so must the game.
@@Nogu3 Progress is not always good, nor for the best.
Beadle and Grimm's BAYBAY!!
Wizards of the Coast have ruined D&D. So much so that the entire fanbase has issues with them now.
It was great seeing the nuerospicy and other minority groups represented. Definitely would like a much deeper dive into that particular world as it seems like this many year doc was just a tiny peek at what was captured, so hopefully they dive into more later on. Particularly the nuerospicy celebrities and us mere mortals as there is such limited representation for us in media for neurotypicals to accept and understand us beyond often harmful stereotypes in mainstream media.
33:22 is that Kelsey Dionne, creator of Shadowdark?
20:10 I'm not sure what you are talking about. I have never run or played in a game where people were turned away because of sex or skin color. Only known cheaters, liars, and grief players were singled out for exclusion and I've played and run games on 3 Countries and 6 States. Maybe the problem is that you were trying to play D&D and not one of 200 other games available on the market.
You're fortunate you've never experienced this discrimination. As a female, I was definitely discouraged from playing or blatantly turned away from games. And no, it wasn't just a D&D thing. Gaming was a "boys' club" activity. I am happy to say that things have changed and gaming culture is far more inclusive now, but it wasn't always.
If someone tells you they face exclusion, you don't get to decide that they actually don't. The world is bigger than you, Kevin.
100% agree total bs looking for attention
1) "It was not a hobby girls were invited into". More like, it was not a hobby any girl in the world would start up let alone get into had it not been intruduced my a male.
Aha
Great segment but I was really hoping they would have addressed the unnecessary hatred that the D&D game was so well known for all because of a news segments and the 60 minutes segment. I remember watching it in a high school news club and our teacher who was also the psychology teacher pointed out on it where even Gary Gygax pointed out the only time a child is have major issues is because their parent isn't doing their job of being a parent and that is to be looking after their childs well being. Fast forward to modern times and parents and new stations are doing the same thing, blaming an external force for their child decline in health, happiness, and well being. Tiktok, Onlyfans, Facebook/Instagram, violence in media, misogyny and illegal drug use in music lyrics, "Dungeons and Dragons made my kid kill themselves", and the list goes on and on.
Women weren't invited is just the same, tired, and false narrative. It's clickbait. I've seen so many invited but because they saw a room full of guys, they walked away. There might have been more but it was hard to get a first making it the second woman even more difficult. It's anecdotal and paints a terrible picture of what would have been a welcoming community for the majority. I will not say there weren't bad people. There are always bad people.
"Documentaries" are usually just high production value opinion pieces, and therefore highly subjective. Should be treated as such as well. :/
Just because you personally didn't experience it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Please don't dismiss others' experiences just because they didn't happen to YOU.
I DID experience unwelcoming attitudes or flat-out being turned away because I'm female. While attitudes around gaming have changed since then, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
@@imayb1 Your experience, still being anecdotal, doesn't mean it happened to every woman at every table. Just because it did happen to YOU, doesn't mean it happened to EVERYONE. Your use of capitalization wasn't the mic drop you hoped for.
AiA
How come they never mention other roleplaying games? That seems a bit insulting to the wider community
@@macona8444 why don't you make a video?
The editing on this is world class
I have been playing D&D and other TTRPGs for over 20 years and no has ever gate kept anyone out of it. That is a total lie that keeps being told over and over about TTROGs, MTG, Comic books, and anything else that was once considered nerdy. Everyone was always welcomed to play. I am tired of hearing people who jumped on the new fad, and utter these lies.
Not everyone has the same experiences as you. If you've been gaming as long as you have, you'll know, at least back in the day, so many of us were trying to game with the very few people we could find who did it and, sad to say, not all of them were nice people. I struggled for a long while to find anyone, and some people just weren't safe or comfortable for girls to game with back then, but also, over-all, I do agree that gamers as a whole are more accepting and open to people of all ages, abilities, races and genders taking part in the hobby, especially nowadays!
Not everyone has been a gatekeeper, but it has happened. I'm just so glad its so much easier for young folk to game these days and to find people, at home or online, to play with! Next year will mark the 30th anniversary of my first game I ever played as a 12 year old kid, I can hardly believe its been that long!
I've been playing and running tabletop RPGs for over 30 years. I have personally experienced gatekeeping in the hobby, though not so much recently. Plenty of incidences of unpleasant individuals who made women uncomfortable. Your experience can not be generalised.
@@queenvagabond8787 ya, that's BS. Yeah because no guys want to actually game with real female players.
@@simonfernandes6809 suuure....if you say so.
@@Ha1cy0n I do say so. Your experience is not everyone else's experience.
The speakers talking about self insert (Mary Sue) characters and sound like they're making up "lived experiences" that press a political narrative are contrary to the point of Immersion and roleplaying