nowadays there are 250 plugins to saturate, but in the early days of protools people had to improvise tricks like this..to put back the distortion from analog gear and tape
Cool, but would've enjoyed seeing more of how he balances out the dynamics and eq with Nicks' voice versus the rather crazy parts in the end. Focusing on pretty much just the kick drum isn't really anything new or exciting to see. Especially if you've been mixing/producing electronic music for the past decades. Always tune your drums.
Anyone know anything about that console? I know Sunset Sound has an API custom, and I see API knobs on the EQ section, but there's two more rows of faders above it. Just curious if anyone know, maybe someone who has worked on it and/or knows signal flow
RusTatum That is the sunset sound console, it's a frank demedio design made with 990 opamps and api eq's by far my favorite sounding desk & room period.
Yes you can, in 2018 plugins can do anything you want with much more precision. if we use the new tools to their potential we can get a lot more dimension than we ever could in the past. The depth of the EQ, the range of saturation and midside processing plugins, it is no joke.
@@bradmodd7856 I've been recording ITB for 8 years, always using analog modeling plugins and such. Recently I bought an 70s console mainly for summing and boy I can tell you it's really not the same. I still use plugins for compression an such but with this new revelation Im eager to try more hardware stuff. On another note, precision is not always want you want. Specially when trying to stay inspired, variation and instability is sometimes desired. It's easy to understand what I mean if you think about old synthesizers and how the are always slightly out of tune.
All this gear, so great. But this avid 192 hd.. This should make nick cave sound so great. Especially in this new style.. I'm so jealous of this avid 192hd.
i mixed as an amateur on a 4 track machine. after finishing it years later with a pc and better software the songs lost its magic. not from bad mixing or overprocessing. music needs to breathe the original room and spirit. a pro will deny me, but i felt that.
Curious to see the DR measurements on this record. The last Nick Cave album had something like 7, and another 'loudness war' debacle mixed for iphone listening. It's no use pumping out HiDef product with DR under 11. I mean they're not dynamic anymore its just noise.
not all albums of an artist are meant to be in the same way, talkin' about dynamics or noise. when they released abattoir blues, they just wanted a noisy album, and they did it that way. we're not talkin' about remixing an old album to fulfill the loudness war, we're talkin' about new records.
Marco Piscopo i understand that, but there still needs to be a sense of dynamics, timbre, texture..Now because music is mastered to be listened on frickn iphones it has to blare. You transport it to a decent system, even via streaming and it BLARES. The last Keith Richards solo album , you turn it up beyond 5 volume on a decent system and it just distorts. Once they warned you on records 'this has been recorded to play LOUD' like Thin Lizzy's 'jailbreak' for instance. Now you play loud and you get distorted CRAP. This is what Neil Young was trying to bring to attention with his Pono, and what he wrote about in his book and on the tune 'drifting back'. It's nice that artists offer hidef or 'audiophile' version of their music, but please ask the engineers or techs to get the DR right. If cinema can have THX, or Criterion can release 'gold standard' rendition of cinema for eternity, the same respect should be taken with music.
'crushed' is the word. They sound shit. If David Lynch can lose his marbles about people watching movies on iphones, serious, quality musisician should have the same concerns. Obviously they don't. And the 'engineers' are to blame just as much as the 'industry'.
Full video available exclusively on mwtm.org/nl-jubilee-street
Sincerely the best sounding record in years. Absolutely amazing.
Really interesting with some specific things to try out in a mix.
The fly on the wall that picks up the low end trick. Thanks for this.
feel passionate about this craft.
just learned about the shadow hills mastering comp love to see it in action
Could watch him talk about mixing the bad seeds forever. Really interesting amp ideas.
very awesome thanks for making a longer video! will be subscribing to your website soon
distortion on the kick is a great tool! thank you for that gem, and nick cave and the bad seeds are legend. They call me the white rose
Great way of using SansAmp, and very tastefully done. Solidified everything.
nowadays there are 250 plugins to saturate, but in the early days of protools people had to improvise tricks like this..to put back the distortion from analog gear and tape
This was super cool! Amped to watch the whole thing! Thanks guys! :)
so many gems on here.
all these studio tools must make live replication a challenge
Thanks for sharing - would like to see more
Brilliant video. A true master class. Thank you
Love the technique of compression of sections not the whole song.
Well, it would be really fantastic to gain access just for a while to some kind of this golden stuff and be able to play around with in studio...
Cool, but would've enjoyed seeing more of how he balances out the dynamics and eq with Nicks' voice versus the rather crazy parts in the end. Focusing on pretty much just the kick drum isn't really anything new or exciting to see. Especially if you've been mixing/producing electronic music for the past decades. Always tune your drums.
Ah, didn't know that. Thanks.
Great episode!!! Thank you :)
Anyone know anything about that console? I know Sunset Sound has an API custom, and I see API knobs on the EQ section, but there's two more rows of faders above it. Just curious if anyone know, maybe someone who has worked on it and/or knows signal flow
RusTatum
That is the sunset sound console, it's a frank demedio design made with 990 opamps and api eq's by far my favorite sounding desk & room period.
dropping gems
I love the sound of that sunset sound desk. Very musical! You will not get that dimension ITB.
Yes you can, in 2018 plugins can do anything you want with much more precision. if we use the new tools to their potential we can get a lot more dimension than we ever could in the past. The depth of the EQ, the range of saturation and midside processing plugins, it is no joke.
@@bradmodd7856 I've been recording ITB for 8 years, always using analog modeling plugins and such. Recently I bought an 70s console mainly for summing and boy I can tell you it's really not the same. I still use plugins for compression an such but with this new revelation Im eager to try more hardware stuff. On another note, precision is not always want you want. Specially when trying to stay inspired, variation and instability is sometimes desired. It's easy to understand what I mean if you think about old synthesizers and how the are always slightly out of tune.
I look forward to more videos
I feel like Nick Launay has a crazy movie villain aura lol.
A true wizard
All this gear, so great. But this avid 192 hd.. This should make nick cave sound so great. Especially in this new style.. I'm so jealous of this avid 192hd.
hollly shit that was amazing i love this guy i think ill have to buy into this channel
very practical
thank you very much)!!!!cool !
this album was recorded really great, not like modern lifeless boom-boom mash rubbish
I like these masterclasses so I created an account at MWTM. But I can´t click on any of the videos, all though they are free... Frustrating..
What does Protool has to Do with your choice of a narrow EQ. It seems like a paid ad by Avid!
I think he’s referring to the stock EQ plugs which allow for a sharper, more surgical Q than a lot of other EQs offer.
i mixed as an amateur on a 4 track machine. after finishing it years later with a pc and better software the songs lost its magic. not from bad mixing or overprocessing. music needs to breathe the original room and spirit. a pro will deny me, but i felt that.
This guy would’ve made a picture perfect adaptation of the Governor from the Walking Dead comic 😄
Is he producing or mixing?
Hi Marcus, Both.
And I turned up the high, mid, waffle sprocket.
Curious to see the DR measurements on this record. The last Nick Cave album had something like 7, and another 'loudness war' debacle mixed for iphone listening. It's no use pumping out HiDef product with DR under 11. I mean they're not dynamic anymore its just noise.
not all albums of an artist are meant to be in the same way, talkin' about dynamics or noise. when they released abattoir blues, they just wanted a noisy album, and they did it that way. we're not talkin' about remixing an old album to fulfill the loudness war, we're talkin' about new records.
Marco Piscopo i understand that, but there still needs to be a sense of dynamics, timbre, texture..Now because music is mastered to be listened on frickn iphones it has to blare. You transport it to a decent system, even via streaming and it BLARES. The last Keith Richards solo album , you turn it up beyond 5 volume on a decent system and it just distorts. Once they warned you on records 'this has been recorded to play LOUD' like Thin Lizzy's 'jailbreak' for instance. Now you play loud and you get distorted CRAP. This is what Neil Young was trying to bring to attention with his Pono, and what he wrote about in his book and on the tune 'drifting back'. It's nice that artists offer hidef or 'audiophile' version of their music, but please ask the engineers or techs to get the DR right. If cinema can have THX, or Criterion can release 'gold standard' rendition of cinema for eternity, the same respect should be taken with music.
'crushed' is the word. They sound shit. If David Lynch can lose his marbles about people watching movies on iphones, serious, quality musisician should have the same concerns. Obviously they don't. And the 'engineers' are to blame just as much as the 'industry'.
Looking for the day when things don't have to be squashed to fit in..
With the compression, dynamic range is decreased.
Meanwhile DeadMau5 raging about tuning kicks somewhere
This is all super interesting, but I'll admit: I understood nothing! =)
So it’s Nicks only I get it
Those speakers go up to 11
Too few buttons :-P
meh
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