I dated a girl who was mad she was passed over for a promotion for a guy. She had 8yrs experience and was an asst mngr, the guy had 16yrs and was a mngr of a diff dept in the same company. She didn’t see it
I am yet to be passed over for a position and thought to myself 'you know what they are better than me and deserve the position more than I.' I think the best I've probably come up with is 'this person is certainly deserving of this position but is no way close to be as amazing as I would be in said position.'
I had a similar experience few days ago..we both got a raise that was the same amount..she was upset I got the same.shes been there for like a year and a half and I’ve been there a year and 3 months.her view was that she was there longer BUT she has never worked more than 1 day a week and refused to work during the pandemic. I have always worked a minimum of 5 days and during pandemic it’s closer to 7.imo she shouldn’t even get close to my raise..I explained to her that yea you have been here longer BUT I have worked here 5 times as much so for it to be equal you would have had to started with the company 5 years ago,she still didn’t understand and still feels she got cheated..Nm the fact that because I actually want to work my job is wayyy more important because I oversee multiple depts.she is still at entry level because she only wants 1 day per week and chooses Sunday because it’s easier
@TR MJ ehh i feel for the people who took massive amounts of debt for a Masters degree that they were told by all those they trust would set them for life, only to find out they are screwed and it did not help them at all. We need a better system.
@Esmour Mayne That's good advice and what they do in many European countries. However, how can you expect when everyone you trust says crap degree = massive success not to listen to those people-family, educators, peers etc. Fortunately, I liked computers and math so I had no issues, so I picked one of the best majors, took a part-time union job while in college but most people are not that lucky.
My female friend got me my first job at a deli. She had worked there for a couple months already. She was making 8$/h and they started me with 9 for the same deli member position. So i told her and she was gonna make a complaint the very next day until we both showed up to work and she went to her register and the manager sent me in the back to unload boxes of meat for 8 hours a day in a 34 degree warehouse. Thats not the same job.
So did you work at a deli or at a warehouse for that deli? Two different jobs so of course different pay. That isn't what the gender wage gap is about. It is about working the exact same job but men getting paid slightly higher and getting higher raises than women. I'm sure you already knew that though so your example was pointless.
@@issaciams I think he actually tried to tell that he thought they were doing the same job until he went into warehouse while she was at the register and then he realized they weren't the same
@@issaciams my point was that although the two jobs had the same title, they were different jobs. We were both assigned to do what we were best at. And if you look at the many examples of gender pay gap youll find similar differences in the jobs those men and those women are performing. There was that actress that got paid a few thousand $ to reshoot a scene and mark walberg was paid 1.5 million to reshoot the same scene. And she almost sued for that. However all she had to do was reshoot one line and he had to do stunts , make up , costumes, dialogue.. i havent encountered a situation where a man and a woman get paid differently for exactly the same task. Maybe the same job title but not the same job.
@@issaciams that only proves it is real in HOLLYWOOD. Not the real world. Then these Hollywood assholes try to excuse their shitty behavior by telling everyone "oh this is common everywhere, don't look at us, look at tech look at wall street etc, oh look shiny explosion with a bikini model somewhere". Same with #metoo. Hollywood was defending Winstien until it became too big, then pointed to "all men" instead of their boss. Hollywood has the biggest mic and they use it to distract from their own wrongdoing.
Well shit, he shouldn't be getting anything at this rate. Tesla failing and people are getting wise to his rapidly changing pr to keep himself relevant. Class action lawsuit by his employees, threatening them for unionizing, ya. Fraud's have their time, that's why they become frauds
thereisnospectrum you're crazy if you believe that hogwash that Tesla is failing. The only reason their stock is dropping is because of their reluctance to open new plants. The are backordered several months dude, Elon is doing more than fine lol
It's not a myth, I work in a company in which the women make less money for the exact same work. Rogan and company (Peterson) are overgeneralizing, yes by far on average women choose less paying but more fulfilling jobs while men take the high risk, high paying jobs. However, the wage gap is still real in the fields in which men or women are paid more.
Razear agreed. Don't complain about a gap if your not taking advantage of the opportunity available. Men go into a filed that pays more to support the family. Most women take jobs not careers or work in fields that pay less. Not a single mans fault for women not wanting those same high paying careers ...
Frankie Lucky it’s that way for a lot of people unfortunately :/ people need to just get educated and work to change actual problems instead of seeing a fake problem and just complaining about it
Heiko Rudi thats so sick bro I was just saying this video was made two years ago and should clear up conversations about the wage gap but it still hasn’t
Once dated a woman who said the government should make up the difference in our salaries. She teaches dance at a university as adjunct faculty. I lead engineering research projects at a large lab. I tried to argue that the market values what I do at a higher rate than what she does. She argued that her addition to society is just as valuable as mine. We just had to stop talking about it.
Lol I feel you man. I had a heated discussion with one of my female friends about why men's soccer is more popular than women's soccer (hence why they get paid more even though they aren't as successful) and she just could not get her head around the fact that more people want to watch men's soccer; thus they add more value to the market. To maintain that friendship we also had to stop talking about it 😂
After watching my son get a divorce and now he only gets to see his son every other weekend while she got the house and everything in it while he still has to pay on the house and pay her child support, no one can convince me women have it bad. My son's life is his son yet she uses their son as a tool to play games against my son. Sad thing is, she doesn't even want a kid. She is always passing my grandson off on everyone else but my son wants him all the time.
One of the many things I've told my exes and current gf. Men should not be the one to fight the cancer that is third wave feminism. It's women. Because it's all fun and games and you think you are winning or different, until it happens to your son. As a man I fight against things like normalization of swipe dating because it's all fun and games till my daughter is swiped. When I mention this concept, caring about something not because it affects you but because it can affect your offspring of the opposite gender, it's like I'm a person from Mars.
@@MrQuestiel I was never a feminist. I never kept my kids away from their dad. He never had to pay child support either. Their dad got them half the week or by kid's choice so he was providing a house like I was so why did he have to give me money? It was more important for my kids to have their dad than me getting a check.
@@LisaIsHappyToBeSane That's great. I didn't say you were. I said women have to "actively" fight it. Example to demonstrate: women do this for men. If a man says I'm not a rapist but I don't actively fight rape, you are part of the problem. We accept it. It's fair. If I don't do anything about it, my daughter could get raped by someone else. But then when men call out something like feminism that women should "actively" fight, women are content to say "but I am not like that". Missy, it's great that you aren't but your son isn't going to date/ marry you. Just saying I was not a feminist does not suddenly make the world better for your son just like me claiming to not be a rapist does jack nothing for my daughter. I hope you see the standard being asked here. Don't just say "but I am not like that" or "not all women are like that". It does absolutely jack nothing for the problem. Now you may already be active in the fight. Good. Say that instead.
You knew all of this before your son got burnt. You only speak up now because it hit home!! Typical female. No sense of agency to support there narrative until it comes back to bite them!
Proud American that’s certainly possible. I think part of it is this 2 party system is as polarizing, or even more polarizing than professional sports teams, and people develop some serious confirmation bias to protect their beliefs and in turn, part of their identity
It is. This isnt a diss and tbh I know only like 1 transgender person and were not even friends. But it is a social construct in the same way that your name is what it is for you.
It doesn't matter. I mean gender is just a title. Sex is your chromosomes and those can never be changed no matter what. You're born a Male, your male and female, your female. But it's just that some people dont want to take in what those typically are attributed to like boy and girl because with those titles comes expectations that some dont necessarily want to follow. You dont have to except somebody's gender tho, the same way it someone asked you to call them Mike instead of Michael, you could say no. Its just a respect thing at that point.
@@loganayers7872 they aren't. I can refer you to some textbooks but if you take any entry level sociology course you will discover that, "Sex refers to the physical or physiological difference between males and females, including both primary sex characteristics (the reproductive system) and secondary characteristics such as height and masculinity. Gender is a person's deeply held internal perception of or her gender. A persons sex, as determined by his or her biology, does not always correspond with his or her gender. Therefore, the terms sex and gender are not interchangeable (Rice University).
well modern feminism anyway ( whats referred to as third wave feminism) feminism originally was about trying to stop women being second class citizens which is no longer the case
feminism right now isn’t as centered on the workplace as it used to be, now its more social equality (receiving respect, planned parenthood, trans rights, all that stuff) which i respect
Some femenists will say construction workers should make the same as a secretary. Thats where the real wage gap is. Of course if I'm a construction worker and i could make the same money sitting at a desk all day without a college degree I'm switching careers.
I thought the belief was that women work more in the office so that more people will apply for a job seeing a lot of hot women and stuff, although I’m not sure how the wage gap works
-Bryan- A construction worker does make the same as a secretary. Sometimes less if you move up to executive assistant and take on more and more responsibilities.
No sane bil CEO would pay personal secretary that much. His secretary holds power too, you do not want that secretary to forget some important info do you? Or leak info to competitors?
My thoughts exactly. And they always try to argue that employers are sexist against women because they are out there to not hire women. Guess what, companies will always try to hire the cheapest available worker. Just look at the late 1800s and early 1900s. America used to treat immigrants like shit, yet companies still hired immigrants because they would work for dirt cheap. That alone, should immediately debunk their argument.
Well to be realistic some self-awere bussines people do that, they employ and prefer more women, one ceo was talking about it, most women at her company never ask for raise, hardly take any days off (when so, mostly because of child illnes), they dont complain and dont ussualy quit job compare to men who always ask for raise and are more ambitios so they often leave for better paying job... So yeah some ceo do take adventage of differences in characterstics between genders
"The wage gap is simply the average earnings of men and women working full time. It does not count for different job positions, hours worked or different jobs. It has nothing to do with the same job. It has nothing to do with discrimination"- We all need a shoe0nhead wage gap button
what about the uswnt vs the usmnt the men earn much more and are losers and the women are pretty much number 1 for 30 years and earn way less doing the same job
It is not the same job, The women have much easier competition. My argument for that has always been this. Let the men play against the women. If the women win they have to swap salaries. a tie then they split the salaries, if the men win it says the same. It will never happen because it's not politically correct or whatever, but that's the fairest way possible to determine who should get paid more.
they put the same time and same prep in and usually the women play more games it has nothing to do with women vs men only a douch would say let them play each other men are physically superior but they are doing the same JOB and at least are women can make a world cup IT IS THE SAME JOB
-Men are on average more willing to do overtime, cover shifts and be flexible with thier time when it comes to their work, women are on average more likely to prioritize time with family and friends. -Men are more willing to move out of town to get the same job but with higher pay, where women are more likely to pick a job close to their social group even if it pays less. -Men are more fierce at salary negotiations because of the two above points. Working longer and harder at thougher jobs, and when you say you will quit and find something better and actually mean it, that will get you a raise. Women are on average less likely to demand a raise because of the two above points, not risk losing your job close to family and friends is for most considered a priority over getting paid more, and most women belive that asking for more money will put their job at risk. -Men are on average more career driven then women. Women more likely to aim for a position that allows for more free time in order to eventually get children and raise a family. Men are career driven in order to attract these women. Now you might think a lot of what i just wrote is sexist, and know some anecdotal stories where these are certainly not the cases, but for the average population they are all true, and the so called "wage-gap" is derived from an average.
Very good points, but there are still other social barriers and subconscious decision making that leads to a wage gap. It might not be as defined of a gap as they are claiming. But unfortunately, a gap does in fact exist, however minor it may be. Oppression exists in all forms of society. It definitely exists in the workplace
part of it is liability too. a woman can be on maternity leave for a year and still get paid. so companies are less motivated to hire 20-40 year old women
@@alex-279 Any proof for your assertion there Alex? Because me thinks you probaly have no legitimate reason to believe that outside of feeling sorry for complaining Women.
@@alex-279 what other social barriers? Name some. Also the vague ideas of "subconscious" "opressions" and such. There is a major problem with that, 1. Most people will agree that opression excist. 2. We should do something about it. 3. But, upon investigation, the "opression" is nonexistent or is ussually the outcome of specific decisions made by a specific "opressed" group. 4. In conclusion, if you cant name the "opression" you cant solve the issue. Please identify the opression. 5. If you cant, it probably does not excist.
Q- Do they have the same education? Same experience? Have they worked for the company for the same amount of time? Do they have the exact same responsibilities? Do they work the same shifts? Are they producing the same amount? If those are all yes - and they earn a different salary - sue them for sure. Otherwise - I don't understand your argument.
My girlfriend makes almost double what I do... But she went to school, is much more professional than I am, works longer hours and has a lot of experience in her occupation -whereas, I only have a "job", little experience because I keep changing jobs and I work less hours and didn't go to school...(I am also limited in what I can do due to disability -i still work 40 hours weekly though) There's tonnes of women with similar stories like mine, minus the disability... And this is exactly the kind of crap that they're arguing is unfair. What I think is this: my girlfriend deserves her high pay, benefits and crazy amount of vacation time because she's earned it and I deserve the shit pay, no benefits and no vacation time because I've also earned that too. You get what you deserve. If you feel like you deserve more, go and get that. Don't stay where you are. -that's why I'm getting my dumbass educated so I can make more money.
Some jobs are valued more than others. I dated a woman that was a college counselor at a high school. She made 15k more than I did. I was an associate attorney working in a large city at a prominent personal injury firm. She was more valuable to her job than I was.
In my economy class this year we talked about the wage gap. My theacher showed us some graphics that represented the difference in the amount of money men and women make, without saying if it was in the same job or an average of all the jobs, although she tried to persuade the class it was from the same job. I tried to argue with her and the other feminazis in my classe, but they wouldn't let me finish my argument about the different choices men and women make throughout their lives, because I was being sexist. After a while I was starting to get mad and so, I asked the question: " if a woman earns 77 cents for a dollar each men makes, why don't businesses only hire women?". My teacher was like "fuck, this kid is wasted" and all the feminazis were saying I couldn't say that because that was a discriminatory question because I had to believe that women can do the same things that men do. My teacher got so mad at me she didn't talk to me the rest of the class.
He's not even super intelligent. In some aspects, sure (ie. He knows a lot about fighting). But he just loves learning and retains a fair bit of information. He couldn't be an astrophysicist or anything, but he is smart. He is definitely one of the most reasonable voice though, for sure
Well not really, he isn't stupid that's for sure but almost everything he knows were all trickled down by the most intelligent people So he is the jack of all trades, but ace of none (except MMA)
It helps to not call it "the wage gap" and start calling it, "an earnings gap." THIS is what it is. Men _earn_ more than do women. If we're talking about the same work, men make the same, or very, very close, as do women.
I haven't looked into the research myself, but I've been told that the "wage gap" is actually for the same job, not across all jobs. I've also heard that the gap is actually due to men working longer hours and taking more risks (e.g. asking for a promotion, changing jobs to get higher pay, etc).
You want to make as much money as the other people doing the same job as you? Then do it as well as they do and put in the same hours they do. Period. A few years back my gf at the time was annoyed that I made significantly more than she did (we were both in sales for the same company). Then I let her in on a secret; I worked an average of 15 hours more than she did every week at the office, took less breaks at work and spent time working at home on the accounts I managed. I was working roughly 65 hours a week between being at the office, at meetings or at home. She was working like 35 to 40 hours a week. Gee, I wonder why I made more...
I'm in college and I notice every guy pick a job that going to pay well, while females look for jobs they would enjoy even if it doesn't pay good. Guys are force to find something that going to pay the bills plus a family while female are allow to pick jobs that doesn't pay well but make them happy
bob berry the women are geniuses. They pick low wage careers that are fulfilling while finding a man to marry who will subsidize them. And guess what? They can then get a divorce and the guy has to keep subsidizing them. It's an amazing system.
@@Earthling108 Well, I am from Italy and I can assure you that here many of those women who happen to be beautiful marry wealthy man that they can barely stand just because his money. And want the house in case of divorce.
Let's for a second assume that the 75/100 is correct. That means that a company would be paying an actual price for being sexist. That's the way it's supposed to work. They get penalized for not being diverse and wanting women in the workplace.
when controlled for all indentifiable factors its like 98/100 but these companies are technically paying for being sexist still. 2% on massive scales is a lot, just not as much as 25 or 20%.
Watch jordan petersons video on this. He talks about how men do more dangerous jobs do almost all the outdoor work and construction work. This is part of the reason men make more.
its easier for women to get jobs and get paid hire and better benefits in my experience, i work for a bank that had WOMEN only program. wtf is that, i never had any help in my career
Rock Ade my work has an entire division devoted to promoting women in the workplace, which just seems sexist to me, AND just imagine the shitstorm that would come if I asked them why.
Joe Mama it’s also illegal to sell drugs, commit fraud, and many other things. Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t still happen. I think the wage gap, at least the common reasons for why people think it exists, is false, but saying something is illegal therefore it doesn’t happen is also not true.
@Joe Mama I'm not refuting that the wage gap isn't real. It comes down to the stuff he was talking about, such as men typically go into higher paying fields and, at least in the past, were more willing to put in 60-80 hour work weeks at one job to show they're hard working. There's also factors like men are typically more willing to move to have a higher paying job and are more likely to barter for higher wages when they get hired. Those are the factors that determine the $1:$0.76 ratio, and that ratio comes from taking average male salary to average male salary, and doesn't account for those other factors. My point was that just because something is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and it's also really difficult to prove that a wage discrepancy between Male worker A and Female worker B is purely because of gender, and not because of something like the man fighting for a higher starting salary. That was my point. Not arguing that the wage gap exists, just saying that if something is illegal that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, you just can't be as blatant about it.
Yep NYT did a study in 2010 expecting to prove the opposite and then proved themselves wrong. The study was conducted in the larges cities in the United States. Granted it wasn’t EVERYWHERE but it was a sample of the largest cities. Women get hired more often, treated better, and paid more. Young men are expendable fodder
On top of what they mention, men work more hours, more overtime, take less vacation time, stay in the workforce longer (so have more experience), and more.
Right out of high school, four years ago, I got a job at a car wash. I was an interior detailer and I had worked my ass off to build strong customer service skills and a very fine attention to the detail that my job was. I mad multiple points to pursue every opportunity I had to become a manager and make more money, as I was working to put myself through college. Two years passed and I remained unprompted and I saw numerous high school girls get hired on as supervisors, customer service reps and team leads because they're pretty face and sweet demeanor was more valuable to them than someone who can speak on behalf of a company that they had worked for two years for and knew the answers to any question a customer could have. Tell me how THAT doesn't squash this debate? In almost any work environment, a woman can get hired for something strictly for this reason over a man. There millions of jobs in America that uneducated women have that a man could never have with no college degree or pertinent experience.
I just got ostracized in my sociology class because I made the argument that some woman choose to make less. i.e, working a first shift position that pays less for better hours. Woman couldn't handle the thought of woman choosing to make less. Lol
As a 21 year old, married kid house and 2 cars, it is absolutely true that you get stuck. It happens so fast and so easily. I have 2 or 3 friends that i get to see if im not busy maybe get to see them twice a month. We usually just go over to each others house cause none of us can afford to go out
Why not discuss how the moon is fake? There's more important shit. They could be talking about the fake fucking moon but they use this shit to distract us.
What is this garbage? Men aren't victims of society lmao. If you actually cared about those dead workers, then you'd looked at the managers. But you'd rather be a victim idpol moron
This drab old Patriarchy nonsense about how men can't be victimized by society again? Society never ceases to amaze me in the number of ways that it can put men through the ringer. Men are far more likely to be convicted of crimes and more likely to server harsher sentences than women. Men work their entire lives away to provide for women who then file for divorce because "he's just always working and never available for me" and then take half of what he worked for. Men have no reproductive rights. Men are subject to military conscription. Young boys are diagnosed with ADHD and drugged because they are rambunctious. Women can physically assault men with no consequences and men who would even dare retaliate are painted as monsters. The Patriarchy is a myth. Men and Women gained their roles in society not as a result of a master/slave relationship, but rather, as a partnership entered into mutually based on the natural affinity that each sex has for certain tasks and the relative reproductive value of each sex. But, over the last 35 years, the balance of power and privilege has shifted to favor women in almost every regard.
There is one argument being missed and one situation I have been in previously myself, I went for a job with a basic salary of £20k and negotiated up to £25k however a female counter part who had just as much experience and was doing the EXACT same job didn’t only months later did we discussed wages and she understandably wasn’t too happy but got a matched salary going forward. Men statistically are more likely to negotiate a higher salary, that is another argument, but for the most part I agree. Also really surprisingly helpful heading Ari speaking regarding mental health later in the episode 👌🏽
That's true, but the question is then: should it be that way? It seems unfair that some people with the same qualifications would get paid less because they don't arguee as much. Maybe we should pay people according to their work and qualifications and not on their negotative skill
@@AiguilleVoodoo having qualifications doesnt mean youll be as good at a job as someone else with the same qualifications. In a lot of jobs, you being able to calmly discuss and reason your way into a higher salary shows that you have more skill in your job than someone who cant
AiguilleVoodoo I’d argue that some people take initiative where others don’t. Just as some people are more critical to the job than others because of of their other skills like language, leadership, people skills, etc.
Totally agree with this. Where I work we are constantly given opportunities for overtime and the majority of people who go for it are the men. Of course they're making more than me!
I feel like the entire wage gap argument is really focusing on the wrong part. Instead of focusing on "women make less than men" we should really be looking at what jobs men and women go to and what the actual reasons are for that.
From a fast food restaurant managers point of view I really hate when interviewing for burger flipper and the lady thinks that since she has a college education she deserves $17/hr. (1989) I told her that if she can tell me how a degree in English Lit.(with a minor in psych) better prepared her for, and helps her to out perform a non college educated worker at flipping burgers, i would pay her the $17/hr. Her reply; 'I went to school, so I deserve more money' I ended the interview and escorted her out while laughing my ass off at her on the way out.
Good.. THERE'S NO such thing as a wage Gap. •FEMINISM •is a mental disorder... IN LATIN AMERICA & ALL OVER THE WORLD.. IT'S ILLEGAL under "the Equal Fair Pay Act". I always ask these FEMINISTS TO tell me WHICH JOB pays Women less than a man for the SAME work?" and they CANNOT answer me...
@@pedrogallegos9545 Who said I'm a feminist wage gap believer? I agree that the wage gap isn't real. I'm just pointing out how dumb it is to type everything like this.
@Leah Ann Mitchell This is a prime example of why feminism has become a cancer to critical thought and society as a whole. This is a video about why the wage gap is (factually) a myth, and you choose to see it as two angry guys trying to stir the pot. Today's society encourages emotional rather than logical thought, and it's extremely dangerous
I've never heard that argument before about how employers, in an effort to save on overhead, would logically want to hire the exact same worker for $0.79 on the dollar. That's such a good point!
In my job, female co-workers are always asking me to move heavy things for them, grab things off top shelves, fix things, and perform tasks that they deem "men's work" despite the fact they have the exact same job title and same pay as me. The gender pay gap isn't nearly wide enough.
'I hate when people make these claims without looking into the studies' 'Again, I haven't actually looked at these studies, I just talk to people that have'
it's not just different jobs. im a woman and when on my first job, i found my female coworker made more than me for the same job. she wasnt that much more experienced than me, she was just a better negotiator, from being on the market a little longer. lesson learned. last year, i found out a female coworker made a lot less than me. she was more qualified, but younger and more naive. again, didnt negotiate well. she learned her lesson too, and now she makes way more.
If you honestly make less than a man in the same position it’s your fault at this point. Get on Glassdoor and know what your position is worth before negotiating. Key word... NEGOTIATE.
There was a math problem in my school about three months ago that was about wage gap, it was basically to calculate the average salary of the woman and the salary of a man and some other stuff and of course the “woman earned less money in the same job” so my two friends (girls) start talking about how it’s outrageous that that happens and I was like no it’s a myth the wage gap doesn’t exist, it’s because women choose different jobs and take more hours in their homes, they basically saw me as a conservative white male (which I’m not I’m not even white) and said that they were disappointed in me, just wanted to share this story out there 😂
Kanye cheedar Similarly, if a Man had taken a years leave of absence and done the same Job for the same amount of time, He'd of probably still gotten a pay rise.
Nah you’ve missed the mark with that one man. I think that’s a fair criticism from your teacher. The wage gap isn’t real, but I wouldn’t say that was fair on your teacher.
@@Horrorcore_IV a person with a year less experience is likely to be less capable than someone with a year more experience. If a woman takes a year out when a man does not, that man has more experience. This is not rocket science.
I agree with most of what you said. With that said, there are definitely less popular and less forward-facing professions that deserve more pay. A good example of this is any occupation in the medical field. They work sleepless hours and still earn far less than other high-visibility professions, and that's unfair because it's the government's budget that dictates what their wage is and not market value. More women tend to pursue medical professions (especially nursing where that has less prestige than say a doctor), and I think we should be solving this problem of allocating more money to professions of higher necessity.
My dad is a Podiatrist when we lived in Michigan he did everyone elses work, plus being on call ALL THE TIME no saturdays off and he would get home at 10pm most nights for less than 80k while paying rent for a house (Later Mortage), and extracurricular activities for me and my 2 siblings. Podiatrists deserve more pay as well as many other medical professions as they are in deep debt and get paid little to nothing for YEARS until they find a high paying job and Anesthesiologists are Nurses and get paid twice what Podiatrists make... I agree with your statement
Man is also a family supporter gives something to grandma, or grandpa, or child etc or spends money to repair wash machine he gets more but also spends more then he gets in return a nice relationship or empathic approach but the thing is if a woman gets less she also tries to spend less the good thing would be if she one time gets more she may go with her hubby on vacation or to trip so he actually is glad she got more sometimes if it helps he would be crazy arguing about it, that she brought home some money, for the advantage of both if it helps them financially, but I understand the logic that man gets more and pays more so he may eventually spend less. He would say darling I don't argue about it you bringing some extra money for the household. maybe we may buy something.
My English 9 honors teacher assigned research papers for our class project and a girl chose the gender pay gap and I told her it is almost non existent. Told her it doesn’t take into account what jobs they take and all she could do was laugh bc she couldn’t prove it is existing.
There's a wage gap as women don't do any of the hard jobs, the dangerous jobs, the taxing and difficult jobs. They just wanna work in a nice warm office, a hospital or a classroom and get paid the same as a mechanical engineer or a Ocean Helicopter Rescue pilot etc.
Tony Quigley women don’t do difficult jobs? What rock do you live under that you’ve never encountered a female doctor or lawyer? Just two examples of highly skilled and challenging jobs. Your comment is so ignorant and makes you sound stupid, to be honest.
What is with all these men that keep commenting on how women don’t take on challenging jobs? I guess your egos are so fragile that all the hard-working female doctors, etc out there are invisible to you. You guys sound pathetic.
@@SCtrojanmob a female doctor is all you have for challenging. Men make up 95% of all work related deaths and they also make up 99.99% of all fatalities during war.
@@SCtrojanmob so i highly doubt that a female lawyer or doctor struggle to literally try not to die day in and day out while at work. But some men do it everyday and the day after that and so on. Go mine some blood diamonds you entitled fuck
My friend who was a firm believer in the wage gap claimed it was because her mom was a high up manager in a firm that paid the men way more. I told her if that’s really the case then she has a lawsuit on her hands. It’s illegal to pay different based on sex so there ya go.
The only issue currently that could be improved for the wage gap putting individual choices aside (choosing to go into social work vs. engineering or something along those lines where you actively choose a career with a lower salary) would be to give equal paternal and maternal leave so that when the time comes when a family starts having kids, both moms and dads have the chance to take equal time off from work so women don’t lose out on those promotional offers and work hours because biologically, they can’t work right away when they’re a new mom.
that doesn't make any sense, especially if you have a company and the last thing you want to do is give more money for less work, the reason why women get maternity leave more often well as you said biologically they can't work, not because it's a charity, and because if they don't it's a clear violation of human rights, as for the fathers...well it's not like anything is gonna change physically after or before the birth of the child so they have to stop working or anything, yes it would be awesome for a new family to be together and all, but as we all learned companies are not moral beings.
Maybe this doesn't "count" because it's a shitty retail job... But my current stocking job with HEB, I have been trying hard to get made full time. But it was given to a female coworker who started after me, and who I helped to learn the job. (Which isn't really much, it's just stocking. But still) Which whatever, this girl is fast at her job. When she started I was the guy stepping up, being in charge to help make sure shit got done because our leads quit and one was out of work for a while. Eventually the leads came back, but when they aren't my manager starts going to this girl instead of me. But you know, I'm the privileged white male. Shit just gets handed to me.
I worked for four different companies before I went self employed. Three were run by men and one by a women. At all three of the companies ran by men the females were given priority for everything but the shit jobs. New vacant office? Female gets it. Supervisor or manager slot open? Female gets it. Hard contract that's going to require a bunch of overtime coming up? Give it to Bob. They can spout all the shit they want about the wage gap but my life experience says that female privilege is the standard that needs to be overthrown.
Nah it's definitely gender mate. Worked in a supermarket and all management but the head manager was female. The guys were all stuck moving heavy stock for hours on end while the girls were literally in the makeup isle taking sniffs at all the new perfumes that come in. The managers would be having literal bitch fights in the middle of the store swearing in front of the customers over who's responsibility it was to get the orders right. No hate towards the girls who actually did their job good on them but the higher up the chain you went the younger and more incompetent they seemed to be. I don't say this out of jealousy. I was young and it was just a weekend job for extra pocket money so no I don't deserve nor want a position in management but there were definitely other guys who did deserve the position that was instead handed to the girl that had been with us for four days whose job seems to consist of doing nothing but remind the guys how useless they are. If we're running with only half staff and behind schedule then get on your knees and help. It's not their fault management is too incompetent to get the numbers right.
Not to be an ass, but we're only getting your side of the story. I had a manager that talked like you, and I eventually got him fired because he was an absolute cunt. Couldn't get his shit together and perform well at a simple retail job, stocking shelves at a lumber yard. Was fucking a cashier in an office during working hours. Called me a faggot constantly, even when I told him I didn't have time to deal with middleschool games. Verbally abused people over simply asking for information on how to do a job properly. I'm not saying that you're awful in these regards, but perhaps she's simply a much better worker than you are.
I’ve been working as payroll officer since the year 2000 and there is NO wage gap. I have never seen a female employee’s pay rate for the same job to that of a male employee’s for a lesser salary/pay rate. I earn more money then male co-workers who work as accountants but less then (male & female) Managers & Directors. Your wage is based on the job you do!!! NOT your gender.
"Wage gap" was such an awful name for it. A wage is what you're paid for a specific task. If there WAS a wage gap, there'd be an actual crisis in America. "Earnings gap" is what we have.
But an 'earnings gap' would just be shut down with the exact same argument as the wage gap, the earnings for women are lower in comparison to men because not as many choose to do jobs such as engineering or becoming a doctor but instead become dance teachers or nurses (examples not generalisation)
So the woman who works next to me makes more than I do. We do the exact same job. I help her with issues more than she helps me and she makes more than I do.
Well where I work as an engineer I'm willing to bet that one of my coworkers who's female in the same exact position get's paid more than me. However, I've been with the company a few months longer but started in a different position. so she's been in our current position longer therefore it makes sense she makes more, she has more experience in the job than I do. There are a lot of things that factor into how much you make especially as a salaried employee. your skills(degree), experience( how long and where), then how profitable your company is. there can also be some economic factors like how much people with your degree typically get paid. how much money you demand if they really want you, early in your career you cant really do this. there could also be some desperation on the company's end. where they will pay more than normal for an experienced person since people like you are hard to come by. or in a case of a fresh graduate they might hire someone with no experience. With all that being said there are so many factors into how much you get paid, but it is on you to verify that it is fair. if you don't think it's fair ask for a raise r find a new job that does pay you fairly.
Seems like people feel they are entitled to work and pay. Instead of asking for a raise themselves they want the government to do it for them. grow a pair and ask yourself, because I tell you what it's a lot easier to pay 1 employee a little more to keep them happy than it is to get hundreds wanting more and you're forced to lay some people off. It's all about initiative, a vast majority of people won't do it. so use that to your advantage. ask for a raise and have some evidence to back it up. like I've done x and y for the company and it saved money or I've been working more hours lately because it seems like I have more responsibilities now. if you're reasonable most bosses might agree and say sure we'll give a raise and sometimes it might be more than your thought.
I want to see Joe Rogan baby John Oliver on his podcast regarding their differences in options portrayed in their respective programs. Two smart guys can only lead to smart answers/debates
Yeah cos if men used the same logic to produce their own statistic itd probably be at least like "1/5 men are raped on campus" aswell which really makes it far less of a "feminist issue"
Quick comment on their disdain for guys in the rat races. When I was in my twenties I tried being a musician, and I didn't care about money. I traveled the world and partied hard. Thing is . . . it is empty. I was pursuing the same shallow party experiences in Ireland, Paris, Greece, Oman, Thailand, and Japan that I was at home. LISTEN TO ME: embrace your obligations, invest in your community, and build a family as a real man who understands his responsibility to bring home the bacon for his wife and children.
second this. like Jordan Peterson says, you need responsibility to find meaning in your life. an easy life with no responsibilities does not feel good. you would think it would on the surface but we are not wired like that.
Im 19, and in my 16-17 i was a full leftist and i acted like what these guys described. I was less happy and i didn't even understand what values i had as a person. In these past 2 years i have become conservative and libertarian so now i feel so at peace with myself. I have difficulties getting angry nowadays lmao, i became more chill and i see the world in a totally different perspective even when shit happens. I come from a poor muslim country where a ton of shit happens espc when your a girl, so i always felt sad but now i see so many opportunities in life, so much positivity like i feel so happy. Im doing my Bachelors in CS, and I'm working so i wont have debt when i graduate. I feel so grateful for the Daily Wire, Thomas Sowell, Joe Rogan, Milton Friedman etc who really just changed my life. I look forward to the future and I'm grateful everyday. THANK YOU 😆
@@maxcicchino6894 She definitely is, I follow her and i always get impressed by her wits and elegance when she speaks. I wish more women had the same mannerisms as her .
the wage gap is technically real BUT it exists only because the job fields used in the experiments are tech, business, and engineering, which are dominated with men right now. so, no, women aren't getting paid less, there are just fewer women in those particular fields to men.
Jason Salgado yes exactly, but there are societal pressures that push men towards those careers and woman towards other lower paid careers. This needs to be addressed by both removing those societal pressures and in making sure that those lower paid jobs are valued correctly
mark Tanner it’s not societal it’s preference. There’s a huge push to get girls into STEM but the fact is a lot of woman aren’t interested in STEM and choose not to go into it. They’re just not interested sometimes just as some males aren’t. That’s not societies fault
The thing you’re missing is that there are societal pressures pushing women towards different careers as men, and the market does partially value that work less based on their gender.
I dated a girl who was mad she was passed over for a promotion for a guy. She had 8yrs experience and was an asst mngr, the guy had 16yrs and was a mngr of a diff dept in the same company. She didn’t see it
I am yet to be passed over for a position and thought to myself 'you know what they are better than me and deserve the position more than I.' I think the best I've probably come up with is 'this person is certainly deserving of this position but is no way close to be as amazing as I would be in said position.'
I had a similar experience few days ago..we both got a raise that was the same amount..she was upset I got the same.shes been there for like a year and a half and I’ve been there a year and 3 months.her view was that she was there longer BUT she has never worked more than 1 day a week and refused to work during the pandemic. I have always worked a minimum of 5 days and during pandemic it’s closer to 7.imo she shouldn’t even get close to my raise..I explained to her that yea you have been here longer BUT I have worked here 5 times as much so for it to be equal you would have had to started with the company 5 years ago,she still didn’t understand and still feels she got cheated..Nm the fact that because I actually want to work my job is wayyy more important because I oversee multiple depts.she is still at entry level because she only wants 1 day per week and chooses Sunday because it’s easier
@TR MJ ehh i feel for the people who took massive amounts of debt for a Masters degree that they were told by all those they trust would set them for life, only to find out they are screwed and it did not help them at all. We need a better system.
@Esmour Mayne That's good advice and what they do in many European countries. However, how can you expect when everyone you trust says crap degree = massive success not to listen to those people-family, educators, peers etc. Fortunately, I liked computers and math so I had no issues, so I picked one of the best majors, took a part-time union job while in college but most people are not that lucky.
Good that she's your ex now
My female friend got me my first job at a deli. She had worked there for a couple months already. She was making 8$/h and they started me with 9 for the same deli member position. So i told her and she was gonna make a complaint the very next day until we both showed up to work and she went to her register and the manager sent me in the back to unload boxes of meat for 8 hours a day in a 34 degree warehouse. Thats not the same job.
So did you work at a deli or at a warehouse for that deli? Two different jobs so of course different pay. That isn't what the gender wage gap is about. It is about working the exact same job but men getting paid slightly higher and getting higher raises than women. I'm sure you already knew that though so your example was pointless.
@@issaciams I think he actually tried to tell that he thought they were doing the same job until he went into warehouse while she was at the register and then he realized they weren't the same
@@issaciams my point was that although the two jobs had the same title, they were different jobs. We were both assigned to do what we were best at. And if you look at the many examples of gender pay gap youll find similar differences in the jobs those men and those women are performing.
There was that actress that got paid a few thousand $ to reshoot a scene and mark walberg was paid 1.5 million to reshoot the same scene. And she almost sued for that. However all she had to do was reshoot one line and he had to do stunts , make up , costumes, dialogue.. i havent encountered a situation where a man and a woman get paid differently for exactly the same task. Maybe the same job title but not the same job.
@@issaciams actors are completely different from real jobs, their pay depends entirely upon their marketability, popularity, etc
@@issaciams that only proves it is real in HOLLYWOOD. Not the real world. Then these Hollywood assholes try to excuse their shitty behavior by telling everyone "oh this is common everywhere, don't look at us, look at tech look at wall street etc, oh look shiny explosion with a bikini model somewhere". Same with #metoo. Hollywood was defending Winstien until it became too big, then pointed to "all men" instead of their boss. Hollywood has the biggest mic and they use it to distract from their own wrongdoing.
When companies realize that they can save money by hiring women
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“You get paid in direct proportion to the difficulty of problems you solve”
-Elon Musk
Does that apply to everything? Entertainer? Musician?
Lucas Levon if you are entertaining more people than the other guy, yes.
Well shit, he shouldn't be getting anything at this rate. Tesla failing and people are getting wise to his rapidly changing pr to keep himself relevant. Class action lawsuit by his employees, threatening them for unionizing, ya. Fraud's have their time, that's why they become frauds
thereisnospectrum you're crazy if you believe that hogwash that Tesla is failing. The only reason their stock is dropping is because of their reluctance to open new plants. The are backordered several months dude, Elon is doing more than fine lol
That is so not true. Elon is right about a lot of things, but that’s not one of them.
How the wage gap myth is still circulating is beyond me.
Democrats won't let it go. They need to convince women they're oppressed to get them to vote for them.
If it was real every CEO would fire all the men and only hire women.
You said it perfectly just in that sentence.
It's not a myth, I work in a company in which the women make less money for the exact same work.
Rogan and company (Peterson) are overgeneralizing, yes by far on average women choose less paying but more fulfilling jobs while men take the high risk, high paying jobs.
However, the wage gap is still real in the fields in which men or women are paid more.
Sergio Velasco bullshit. This doesn't happen.
"Want to close the wage gap? Change your major from feminist dance therapy to electrical engineering." - Christina Hoff Sommers
Razear You’re an idiot
They don’t want to work hard, they want to play victims and get more money
Just a bit of Junkie Way to make things up, none of that is true, you’re projecting it seems
Razear lol
Razear agreed. Don't complain about a gap if your not taking advantage of the opportunity available. Men go into a filed that pays more to support the family. Most women take jobs not careers or work in fields that pay less. Not a single mans fault for women not wanting those same high paying careers ...
Just a bit of Junkie i think you missed the sarcasm in the guys comment.
First step is to start calling it what it is. It's not a wage gap, it's an earnings gap.
Bo Burnham "For every dollar that a man makes, a woman makes 70 cents. That doesn't make sense. That's not fair, the man's only left with 30."
Is bo a comedian
I think I heard of him
Damien Vega yea Bo Burnham
Seth Johnson alright
funny
because they get their facts from BuzzFeed and Pinterest
EL SCIENCE don’t forget tumblr and the Guardian
EL SCIENCE and soyboys
Nope, cnn now has jumped on the bandwagon and fucking Obama himself used to push it
"Facts" should be in quotation marks
YES!!!
If the wage gap was real. No company would hire men just hire a women and save
I know I would
Your onto something I'm firing all the men and it's not sexist because men aren't a minority like the oppressed women... oh wait. That can't be right?
Plus you get to sexual harrass all your employees
And you get to have rape victims that reports the rape on tumblr instead of the police
@@Lordoftheswollen For sure! If it was the 80's you wouldn't even be arrested
Two years later and there are still millions of women that don’t understand the wage gap
That’s why they don’t get promoted. Math skills are more important than bitching skills
Frankie Lucky it’s that way for a lot of people unfortunately :/ people need to just get educated and work to change actual problems instead of seeing a fake problem and just complaining about it
Two years? This shit goes on for 40 years now, there are debates about that from 1980
Heiko Rudi thats so sick bro I was just saying this video was made two years ago and should clear up conversations about the wage gap but it still hasn’t
Mud Brawler some of them do luckily but yeah many women that call themselves feminists lack those tools
It's 2019 and I still can't believe the Seahawks didn't run the ball.
It's 2019 and I second this.
But the warriors blew a 3-1 lead tho
They had the best running back in the league. Didn’t make sense.
To throw it that is..
Fucking facts
All the women at my job complain if they need to work overtime. The men are like “ hell yeah more money”
All the blokes at work must be women because every time I keep them back 30 minutes they bitch and moan.
Dennis F but is it 30 min with or without pay??
@@dennisf1020 with pay no man would moan
Thepr1ntGnome fuck u i aint staying 30 min more than necessery at my walmart lmao fuck that
Timothy Bryce A job’s a job
Once dated a woman who said the government should make up the difference in our salaries. She teaches dance at a university as adjunct faculty. I lead engineering research projects at a large lab. I tried to argue that the market values what I do at a higher rate than what she does. She argued that her addition to society is just as valuable as mine. We just had to stop talking about it.
Lol I feel you man. I had a heated discussion with one of my female friends about why men's soccer is more popular than women's soccer (hence why they get paid more even though they aren't as successful) and she just could not get her head around the fact that more people want to watch men's soccer; thus they add more value to the market. To maintain that friendship we also had to stop talking about it 😂
We need more dancers. It’s just such a neglected profession. It’s not as if the entertainment industry is already insanely competitive.
@@JayGarrickFlash that's a red flag right there. Can't imagine people in their 30s being like that against their SO
@@JayGarrickFlash you wanna watch some mens beach volleyball later?
@@tokeypokey Depends... How hot are the guys? No homo of course.
After watching my son get a divorce and now he only gets to see his son every other weekend while she got the house and everything in it while he still has to pay on the house and pay her child support, no one can convince me women have it bad. My son's life is his son yet she uses their son as a tool to play games against my son. Sad thing is, she doesn't even want a kid. She is always passing my grandson off on everyone else but my son wants him all the time.
One of the many things I've told my exes and current gf. Men should not be the one to fight the cancer that is third wave feminism. It's women. Because it's all fun and games and you think you are winning or different, until it happens to your son. As a man I fight against things like normalization of swipe dating because it's all fun and games till my daughter is swiped.
When I mention this concept, caring about something not because it affects you but because it can affect your offspring of the opposite gender, it's like I'm a person from Mars.
Tell me about it. I haven't seen my children in 8 months but my x quickly calls to make sure I am paying child support or else.
@@MrQuestiel I was never a feminist. I never kept my kids away from their dad. He never had to pay child support either. Their dad got them half the week or by kid's choice so he was providing a house like I was so why did he have to give me money? It was more important for my kids to have their dad than me getting a check.
@@LisaIsHappyToBeSane That's great. I didn't say you were. I said women have to "actively" fight it.
Example to demonstrate: women do this for men. If a man says I'm not a rapist but I don't actively fight rape, you are part of the problem. We accept it. It's fair. If I don't do anything about it, my daughter could get raped by someone else.
But then when men call out something like feminism that women should "actively" fight, women are content to say "but I am not like that". Missy, it's great that you aren't but your son isn't going to date/ marry you. Just saying I was not a feminist does not suddenly make the world better for your son just like me claiming to not be a rapist does jack nothing for my daughter.
I hope you see the standard being asked here. Don't just say "but I am not like that" or "not all women are like that". It does absolutely jack nothing for the problem.
Now you may already be active in the fight. Good. Say that instead.
You knew all of this before your son got burnt. You only speak up now because it hit home!! Typical female. No sense of agency to support there narrative until it comes back to bite them!
There is a wage gap, oprah is worth 560k for every dollar I’m worth
Damn, well Oprah being a Billonaire that means that you have a good amount of money to 😂
@@ramonvizcarra8335 He's only worth $4500, yeah it may be alot to some, but it's not really.
Oprah’s a little whiny bitch.
Can’t believe this is still even up for debate
I feel like politicians are smart enough to know this, but still use it for votes
As long as there are feminists in the first world, there will always be a debunked myth for them to crybully people over.
It is up for debate because people keep trying to deny it, and come up for excuses for it.
Proud American that’s certainly possible. I think part of it is this 2 party system is as polarizing, or even more polarizing than professional sports teams, and people develop some serious confirmation bias to protect their beliefs and in turn, part of their identity
bkcpisme that’s right, and incredibly shocking to me. Big time cognitive dissonance going on
but i thought gender is a social construct lol
I identify as a transemoji.
It is. This isnt a diss and tbh I know only like 1 transgender person and were not even friends. But it is a social construct in the same way that your name is what it is for you.
It doesn't matter. I mean gender is just a title. Sex is your chromosomes and those can never be changed no matter what. You're born a Male, your male and female, your female. But it's just that some people dont want to take in what those typically are attributed to like boy and girl because with those titles comes expectations that some dont necessarily want to follow. You dont have to except somebody's gender tho, the same way it someone asked you to call them Mike instead of Michael, you could say no. Its just a respect thing at that point.
@@aArdere gender and sex are the same thing
@@loganayers7872 they aren't. I can refer you to some textbooks but if you take any entry level sociology course you will discover that, "Sex refers to the physical or physiological difference between males and females, including both primary sex characteristics (the reproductive system) and secondary characteristics such as height and masculinity. Gender is a person's deeply held internal perception of or her gender. A persons sex, as determined by his or her biology, does not always correspond with his or her gender. Therefore, the terms sex and gender are not interchangeable (Rice University).
some men make less than other men too. drops mike.
Its mic not Mike
Poor mike
anthony emmanuel Rafanan #prayformike
Tf did mike do to you
#prayformike
Feminism, because rich white girls need to feel oppressed.
well modern feminism anyway ( whats referred to as third wave feminism) feminism originally was about trying to stop women being second class citizens which is no longer the case
feminism right now isn’t as centered on the workplace as it used to be, now its more social equality (receiving respect, planned parenthood, trans rights, all that stuff) which i respect
It's the lower and middle class doing the bitching
entitlement
Blacks feel the same
If the wage gap was true, then why don't companies just hire women if they cost less to do the same job?
Some femenists will say construction workers should make the same as a secretary. Thats where the real wage gap is. Of course if I'm a construction worker and i could make the same money sitting at a desk all day without a college degree I'm switching careers.
I thought the belief was that women work more in the office so that more people will apply for a job seeing a lot of hot women and stuff, although I’m not sure how the wage gap works
-Bryan- A construction worker does make the same as a secretary. Sometimes less if you move up to executive assistant and take on more and more responsibilities.
Well someone needs to get the job done
Watch the video they literally say that...
Joe "This shirt isn't too tight" Rogan
lol girls wear pants that are too tight, and guys wear shirts that are too tight. whats the big deal
Ron G if i was that buff I'd dress that way too
Ron G I think you mean Joe “pull this sucker right up to your face” rogan
Ron G that shirt isn't too tight though lol. I'm sure he has worn a shirt or two too little but that one is fine
Moe Ghouti nothings wrong with girls wearing too tight pants 😉
FemeNAZI be like:
A male CEO is making 2.5 million dollars while a female secretary is only making $12 hour. DISCRIMINATION!
Obvious sexism in the workplace
You're not far off from their actual claims lol
johnny jess in a ideal perfect world yes
Meanwhile Taylor Swift makes 200 million bucks
No sane bil CEO would pay personal secretary that much.
His secretary holds power too, you do not want that secretary to forget some important info do you?
Or leak info to competitors?
Not even in a developing country can a wage gap exist...no employer can employ a man if they could get women of the same quality cheaper...
krys 👌🏻👌🏻 complains about pay when your then your more likely to get the job
My thoughts exactly. And they always try to argue that employers are sexist against women because they are out there to not hire women. Guess what, companies will always try to hire the cheapest available worker. Just look at the late 1800s and early 1900s. America used to treat immigrants like shit, yet companies still hired immigrants because they would work for dirt cheap. That alone, should immediately debunk their argument.
Well to be realistic some self-awere bussines people do that, they employ and prefer more women, one ceo was talking about it, most women at her company never ask for raise, hardly take any days off (when so, mostly because of child illnes), they dont complain and dont ussualy quit job compare to men who always ask for raise and are more ambitios so they often leave for better paying job... So yeah some ceo do take adventage of differences in characterstics between genders
Welp, i used to be a waiter. I had 30 bitvhes for coworkers. It was drama over drama for nothing. I'd rather pay 30 cents more and get the job done
Hahahahaha clearly you don’t understand the meaning of “wage gap”
"The wage gap is simply the average earnings of men and women working full time. It does not count for different job positions, hours worked or different jobs. It has nothing to do with the same job. It has nothing to do with discrimination"- We all need a shoe0nhead wage gap button
You can tell this to somebody 100x and they will still believe in the wage gap
what about the uswnt vs the usmnt the men earn much more and are losers and the women are pretty much number 1 for 30 years and earn way less doing the same job
It is not the same job, The women have much easier competition. My argument for that has always been this. Let the men play against the women. If the women win they have to swap salaries. a tie then they split the salaries, if the men win it says the same. It will never happen because it's not politically correct or whatever, but that's the fairest way possible to determine who should get paid more.
they put the same time and same prep in and usually the women play more games it has nothing to do with women vs men only a douch would say let them play each other men are physically superior but they are doing the same JOB and at least are women can make a world cup IT IS THE SAME JOB
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-Men are on average more willing to do overtime, cover shifts and be flexible with thier time when it comes to their work, women are on average more likely to prioritize time with family and friends.
-Men are more willing to move out of town to get the same job but with higher pay, where women are more likely to pick a job close to their social group even if it pays less.
-Men are more fierce at salary negotiations because of the two above points. Working longer and harder at thougher jobs, and when you say you will quit and find something better and actually mean it, that will get you a raise. Women are on average less likely to demand a raise because of the two above points, not risk losing your job close to family and friends is for most considered a priority over getting paid more, and most women belive that asking for more money will put their job at risk.
-Men are on average more career driven then women. Women more likely to aim for a position that allows for more free time in order to eventually get children and raise a family. Men are career driven in order to attract these women.
Now you might think a lot of what i just wrote is sexist, and know some anecdotal stories where these are certainly not the cases, but for the average population they are all true, and the so called "wage-gap" is derived from an average.
Very good points, but there are still other social barriers and subconscious decision making that leads to a wage gap. It might not be as defined of a gap as they are claiming. But unfortunately, a gap does in fact exist, however minor it may be. Oppression exists in all forms of society. It definitely exists in the workplace
@@alex-279 Except in the workplace its illegal. Report it. Instead of getting someone else to rat for you.
part of it is liability too. a woman can be on maternity leave for a year and still get paid. so companies are less motivated to hire 20-40 year old women
@@alex-279 Any proof for your assertion there Alex? Because me thinks you probaly have no legitimate reason to believe that outside of feeling sorry for complaining Women.
@@alex-279 what other social barriers? Name some.
Also the vague ideas of "subconscious" "opressions" and such.
There is a major problem with that,
1. Most people will agree that opression excist.
2. We should do something about it.
3. But, upon investigation, the "opression" is nonexistent or is ussually the outcome of specific decisions made by a specific "opressed" group.
4. In conclusion, if you cant name the "opression" you cant solve the issue. Please identify the opression.
5. If you cant, it probably does not excist.
"What studies have you read? And almost always it's 0. I just believe this or that." (0:22)
"Again I haven't read any studies" (1:20)
3 things: OnlyFans, strip clubs, and maternity leave.
in this order!
Q- Do they have the same education? Same experience? Have they worked for the company for the same amount of time? Do they have the exact same responsibilities? Do they work the same shifts? Are they producing the same amount? If those are all yes - and they earn a different salary - sue them for sure. Otherwise - I don't understand your argument.
My girlfriend makes almost double what I do... But she went to school, is much more professional than I am, works longer hours and has a lot of experience in her occupation -whereas, I only have a "job", little experience because I keep changing jobs and I work less hours and didn't go to school...(I am also limited in what I can do due to disability -i still work 40 hours weekly though)
There's tonnes of women with similar stories like mine, minus the disability... And this is exactly the kind of crap that they're arguing is unfair.
What I think is this: my girlfriend deserves her high pay, benefits and crazy amount of vacation time because she's earned it and I deserve the shit pay, no benefits and no vacation time because I've also earned that too.
You get what you deserve. If you feel like you deserve more, go and get that. Don't stay where you are. -that's why I'm getting my dumbass educated so I can make more money.
Good Luck.Balanced perspective.
Some jobs are valued more than others. I dated a woman that was a college counselor at a high school. She made 15k more than I did. I was an associate attorney working in a large city at a prominent personal injury firm. She was more valuable to her job than I was.
In my economy class this year we talked about the wage gap. My theacher showed us some graphics that represented the difference in the amount of money men and women make, without saying if it was in the same job or an average of all the jobs, although she tried to persuade the class it was from the same job. I tried to argue with her and the other feminazis in my classe, but they wouldn't let me finish my argument about the different choices men and women make throughout their lives, because I was being sexist. After a while I was starting to get mad and so, I asked the question: " if a woman earns 77 cents for a dollar each men makes, why don't businesses only hire women?". My teacher was like "fuck, this kid is wasted" and all the feminazis were saying I couldn't say that because that was a discriminatory question because I had to believe that women can do the same things that men do. My teacher got so mad at me she didn't talk to me the rest of the class.
That BITCH !!!!!
Mark G exactly!!!
You should of called her a fat old whore
That’s what she is anyway
Report her and the others for hate crimes.
WTF was this a gender studies economics course? No real economist would propagate the wage gap myth.
Joe is one of the most intelligent, reasonable voices in modern society.
He's not even super intelligent. In some aspects, sure (ie. He knows a lot about fighting).
But he just loves learning and retains a fair bit of information.
He couldn't be an astrophysicist or anything, but he is smart.
He is definitely one of the most reasonable voice though, for sure
Well not really, he isn't stupid that's for sure but almost everything he knows were all trickled down by the most intelligent people
So he is the jack of all trades, but ace of none (except MMA)
It helps to not call it "the wage gap" and start calling it, "an earnings gap." THIS is what it is. Men _earn_ more than do women. If we're talking about the same work, men make the same, or very, very close, as do women.
And an earnings gap is not an issue whatsoever
@@shaheera.8150 Yes, exactly.
Lol, Carmelo is not a top 15 player
Barek Webb I’m surprised Jamie didn’t correct that statement lol.
I heard that live and said “Motherfucker what?” Out-loud lmao
He was arguably top 5 just 5 years ago.. wow
Isn't Carmelo a chocolate bar or something?
Melo making $27 million this year is what I just seen on ESPN awhile reading comments
At first I thought is said “Joe Rogan on wap” and I was bout to die of laughter😂😂
I haven't looked into the research myself, but I've been told that the "wage gap" is actually for the same job, not across all jobs. I've also heard that the gap is actually due to men working longer hours and taking more risks (e.g. asking for a promotion, changing jobs to get higher pay, etc).
I heard that too
You want to make as much money as the other people doing the same job as you? Then do it as well as they do and put in the same hours they do.
Period.
A few years back my gf at the time was annoyed that I made significantly more than she did (we were both in sales for the same company). Then I let her in on a secret; I worked an average of 15 hours more than she did every week at the office, took less breaks at work and spent time working at home on the accounts I managed. I was working roughly 65 hours a week between being at the office, at meetings or at home.
She was working like 35 to 40 hours a week.
Gee, I wonder why I made more...
How did she respond to that?
I'm in college and I notice every guy pick a job that going to pay well, while females look for jobs they would enjoy even if it doesn't pay good.
Guys are force to find something that going to pay the bills plus a family while female are allow to pick jobs that doesn't pay well but make them happy
bob berry the women are geniuses. They pick low wage careers that are fulfilling while finding a man to marry who will subsidize them.
And guess what? They can then get a divorce and the guy has to keep subsidizing them. It's an amazing system.
mag steel that is sick
I’m a woman and I never did that. That is impractical. But of course I am from an Asian family and not allowed to
@@Earthling108 Well, I am from Italy and I can assure you that here many of those women who happen to be beautiful marry wealthy man that they can barely stand just because his money. And want the house in case of divorce.
@@Echteseele Wait.....there are terrible marriage laws outside of the US?
Let's for a second assume that the 75/100 is correct. That means that a company would be paying an actual price for being sexist. That's the way it's supposed to work. They get penalized for not being diverse and wanting women in the workplace.
when controlled for all indentifiable factors its like 98/100 but these companies are technically paying for being sexist still. 2% on massive scales is a lot, just not as much as 25 or 20%.
Watch jordan petersons video on this. He talks about how men do more dangerous jobs do almost all the outdoor work and construction work. This is part of the reason men make more.
its easier for women to get jobs and get paid hire and better benefits in my experience, i work for a bank that had WOMEN only program. wtf is that, i never had any help in my career
Rock Ade my work has an entire division devoted to promoting women in the workplace, which just seems sexist to me, AND just imagine the shitstorm that would come if I asked them why.
Why is it people who say women don’t get equal pay never look up the equal pay act of 1963
Robert Salfelder just like the equal rights act solved racism right? it’s not so cut and dry
Michael Jackson don’t play onto stupidity
Joe Mama it’s also illegal to sell drugs, commit fraud, and many other things. Just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it doesn’t still happen. I think the wage gap, at least the common reasons for why people think it exists, is false, but saying something is illegal therefore it doesn’t happen is also not true.
@Joe Mama I'm not refuting that the wage gap isn't real. It comes down to the stuff he was talking about, such as men typically go into higher paying fields and, at least in the past, were more willing to put in 60-80 hour work weeks at one job to show they're hard working. There's also factors like men are typically more willing to move to have a higher paying job and are more likely to barter for higher wages when they get hired. Those are the factors that determine the $1:$0.76 ratio, and that ratio comes from taking average male salary to average male salary, and doesn't account for those other factors. My point was that just because something is illegal doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and it's also really difficult to prove that a wage discrepancy between Male worker A and Female worker B is purely because of gender, and not because of something like the man fighting for a higher starting salary. That was my point. Not arguing that the wage gap exists, just saying that if something is illegal that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, you just can't be as blatant about it.
There actually is a real wage gap. Millenial women have been found to make more money than millenial men for the same job.
Yep NYT did a study in 2010 expecting to prove the opposite and then proved themselves wrong. The study was conducted in the larges cities in the United States.
Granted it wasn’t EVERYWHERE but it was a sample of the largest cities. Women get hired more often, treated better, and paid more.
Young men are expendable fodder
On top of what they mention, men work more hours, more overtime, take less vacation time, stay in the workforce longer (so have more experience), and more.
Joe Rogan spoke the fucken truth here. He spoke to me here on this one..
You n me both.
Kevyn Gandolfini : you must be a married man like myself
Right out of high school, four years ago, I got a job at a car wash. I was an interior detailer and I had worked my ass off to build strong customer service skills and a very fine attention to the detail that my job was. I mad multiple points to pursue every opportunity I had to become a manager and make more money, as I was working to put myself through college. Two years passed and I remained unprompted and I saw numerous high school girls get hired on as supervisors, customer service reps and team leads because they're pretty face and sweet demeanor was more valuable to them than someone who can speak on behalf of a company that they had worked for two years for and knew the answers to any question a customer could have. Tell me how THAT doesn't squash this debate? In almost any work environment, a woman can get hired for something strictly for this reason over a man. There millions of jobs in America that uneducated women have that a man could never have with no college degree or pertinent experience.
I just got ostracized in my sociology class because I made the argument that some woman choose to make less. i.e, working a first shift position that pays less for better hours. Woman couldn't handle the thought of woman choosing to make less. Lol
As a 21 year old, married kid house and 2 cars, it is absolutely true that you get stuck. It happens so fast and so easily. I have 2 or 3 friends that i get to see if im not busy maybe get to see them twice a month. We usually just go over to each others house cause none of us can afford to go out
The Wage Gap is not the same as the Pay Gap. Why not discuss the Pain Gap; men comprise ~90% of work-related fatalities.
Why not discuss how the moon is fake? There's more important shit. They could be talking about the fake fucking moon but they use this shit to distract us.
Joel D and men work 10% more per week than woman. Up to 5 more years at work over a lifetime.
What is this garbage? Men aren't victims of society lmao. If you actually cared about those dead workers, then you'd looked at the managers. But you'd rather be a victim idpol moron
This drab old Patriarchy nonsense about how men can't be victimized by society again? Society never ceases to amaze me in the number of ways that it can put men through the ringer. Men are far more likely to be convicted of crimes and more likely to server harsher sentences than women. Men work their entire lives away to provide for women who then file for divorce because "he's just always working and never available for me" and then take half of what he worked for. Men have no reproductive rights. Men are subject to military conscription. Young boys are diagnosed with ADHD and drugged because they are rambunctious. Women can physically assault men with no consequences and men who would even dare retaliate are painted as monsters. The Patriarchy is a myth. Men and Women gained their roles in society not as a result of a master/slave relationship, but rather, as a partnership entered into mutually based on the natural affinity that each sex has for certain tasks and the relative reproductive value of each sex. But, over the last 35 years, the balance of power and privilege has shifted to favor women in almost every regard.
Just a bit of Junkie the moon isn't fake, I can calculate it's mass, distance, and size independently.
There is one argument being missed and one situation I have been in previously myself, I went for a job with a basic salary of £20k and negotiated up to £25k however a female counter part who had just as much experience and was doing the EXACT same job didn’t only months later did we discussed wages and she understandably wasn’t too happy but got a matched salary going forward. Men statistically are more likely to negotiate a higher salary, that is another argument, but for the most part I agree. Also really surprisingly helpful heading Ari speaking regarding mental health later in the episode 👌🏽
And yes my wage should have been cut due to poor grammar 🤦🏽♂️
That's true, but the question is then: should it be that way? It seems unfair that some people with the same qualifications would get paid less because they don't arguee as much. Maybe we should pay people according to their work and qualifications and not on their negotative skill
@@AiguilleVoodoo having qualifications doesnt mean youll be as good at a job as someone else with the same qualifications. In a lot of jobs, you being able to calmly discuss and reason your way into a higher salary shows that you have more skill in your job than someone who cant
AiguilleVoodoo I’d argue that some people take initiative where others don’t. Just as some people are more critical to the job than others because of of their other skills like language, leadership, people skills, etc.
Men work harder
Totally agree with this. Where I work we are constantly given opportunities for overtime and the majority of people who go for it are the men. Of course they're making more than me!
“There’s studies out there that prove you EVERYTHING.”
-Joe Rogan
Whenever I hear people say this, I always ask to see the pay stubs.
They always shut up.
I feel like the entire wage gap argument is really focusing on the wrong part.
Instead of focusing on "women make less than men" we should really be looking at what jobs men and women go to and what the actual reasons are for that.
A loving, happy family is a goal worth working hard for.
From a fast food restaurant managers point of view I really hate when interviewing for burger flipper and the lady thinks that since she has a college education she deserves $17/hr. (1989) I told her that if she can tell me how a degree in English Lit.(with a minor in psych) better prepared her for, and helps her to out perform a non college educated worker at flipping burgers, i would pay her the $17/hr. Her reply; 'I went to school, so I deserve more money' I ended the interview and escorted her out while laughing my ass off at her on the way out.
Good..
THERE'S NO such thing as a wage Gap.
•FEMINISM
•is a mental disorder...
IN LATIN AMERICA
& ALL OVER THE WORLD..
IT'S ILLEGAL under
"the Equal Fair Pay Act".
I always ask these FEMINISTS
TO tell me WHICH JOB
pays Women less
than a man
for the SAME work?"
and they CANNOT
answer me...
@@CouchLock
To ANNOY feminists wage gap Believers like you With FACTS....
FACTS DON'T Care about your feelings...
@@pedrogallegos9545 Who said I'm a feminist wage gap believer? I agree that the wage gap isn't real.
I'm just pointing out how dumb it is to
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@Leah Ann Mitchell This is a prime example of why feminism has become a cancer to critical thought and society as a whole. This is a video about why the wage gap is (factually) a myth, and you choose to see it as two angry guys trying to stir the pot. Today's society encourages emotional rather than logical thought, and it's extremely dangerous
I've never heard that argument before about how employers, in an effort to save on overhead, would logically want to hire the exact same worker for $0.79 on the dollar. That's such a good point!
In my job, female co-workers are always asking me to move heavy things for them, grab things off top shelves, fix things, and perform tasks that they deem "men's work" despite the fact they have the exact same job title and same pay as me.
The gender pay gap isn't nearly wide enough.
God forbid you lift something
just see how they'll react if they heard u got promoted or a bonus or even a slight raise
'I hate when people make these claims without looking into the studies' 'Again, I haven't actually looked at these studies, I just talk to people that have'
Female strippers makes 10 times more than male strippers 🤬
Am I the only one impressed with how quickly Ari Shaffir named Melo as the 15th player in the NBA?
That’s so accurate.
it's not just different jobs. im a woman and when on my first job, i found my female coworker made more than me for the same job. she wasnt that much more experienced than me, she was just a better negotiator, from being on the market a little longer. lesson learned. last year, i found out a female coworker made a lot less than me. she was more qualified, but younger and more naive. again, didnt negotiate well. she learned her lesson too, and now she makes way more.
“A woman’s work is never done”....... and that’s exactly why they get paid less 🤭
"Women who seeks to be equal with men, lack ambition." - Timothy Leary
Will you show me how to get to Sesame Street?
Mary worked 5 hours and got paid 50 euro
John worked 6 hours and got paid 60 euro
Wage gap solved
If you honestly make less than a man in the same position it’s your fault at this point. Get on Glassdoor and know what your position is worth before negotiating. Key word... NEGOTIATE.
There was a math problem in my school about three months ago that was about wage gap, it was basically to calculate the average salary of the woman and the salary of a man and some other stuff and of course the “woman earned less money in the same job” so my two friends (girls) start talking about how it’s outrageous that that happens and I was like no it’s a myth the wage gap doesn’t exist, it’s because women choose different jobs and take more hours in their homes, they basically saw me as a conservative white male (which I’m not I’m not even white) and said that they were disappointed in me, just wanted to share this story out there 😂
And there is so much more social pressure for men to be successful and make more money.
I had a teacher once tell me she was a victim of the wage gap because she missed a year due to pregnancy and didn’t get her yearly raise
Kanye cheedar Similarly, if a Man had taken a years leave of absence and done the same Job for the same amount of time, He'd of probably still gotten a pay rise.
Nah you’ve missed the mark with that one man. I think that’s a fair criticism from your teacher. The wage gap isn’t real, but I wouldn’t say that was fair on your teacher.
@@lgomer3442 why? She wasn't working.
J gw Yet She's probably just as capable?
@@Horrorcore_IV a person with a year less experience is likely to be less capable than someone with a year more experience. If a woman takes a year out when a man does not, that man has more experience. This is not rocket science.
Walter William , Thomas Sowell,
MILTON FREIDMAN.
all say the same thing,
no wage gap exists.
I agree with most of what you said. With that said, there are definitely less popular and less forward-facing professions that deserve more pay. A good example of this is any occupation in the medical field. They work sleepless hours and still earn far less than other high-visibility professions, and that's unfair because it's the government's budget that dictates what their wage is and not market value. More women tend to pursue medical professions (especially nursing where that has less prestige than say a doctor), and I think we should be solving this problem of allocating more money to professions of higher necessity.
My dad is a Podiatrist when we lived in Michigan he did everyone elses work, plus being on call ALL THE TIME no saturdays off and he would get home at 10pm most nights for less than 80k while paying rent for a house (Later Mortage), and extracurricular activities for me and my 2 siblings. Podiatrists deserve more pay as well as many other medical professions as they are in deep debt and get paid little to nothing for YEARS until they find a high paying job and Anesthesiologists are Nurses and get paid twice what Podiatrists make... I agree with your statement
Man is also a family supporter
gives something to grandma, or grandpa, or child etc
or spends money to repair wash machine
he gets more but also spends more
then he gets in return a nice relationship or empathic approach
but the thing is if a woman gets less
she also tries to spend less
the good thing would be if she one time gets more
she may go with her hubby on vacation or to trip
so he actually is glad she got more sometimes
if it helps
he would be crazy arguing about it, that she brought home some money,
for the advantage of both
if it helps them financially, but I understand the logic that man gets more and pays more
so he may eventually spend less.
He would say darling I don't argue about it you bringing some extra money for the household.
maybe we may buy something.
Bill Burr summed up the Wage Gape With a Titanic Senario.
“When you talk to people and ask them what studies they’ve read it’s almost always zero studies”
“I mean I haven’t read any studies”
My English 9 honors teacher assigned research papers for our class project and a girl chose the gender pay gap and I told her it is almost non existent. Told her it doesn’t take into account what jobs they take and all she could do was laugh bc she couldn’t prove it is existing.
Thank you for pointing that out. You explained it much clearer than I’ve been able to when discussing with people.
There's a wage gap as women don't do any of the hard jobs, the dangerous jobs, the taxing and difficult jobs. They just wanna work in a nice warm office, a hospital or a classroom and get paid the same as a mechanical engineer or a Ocean Helicopter Rescue pilot etc.
Tony Quigley women don’t do difficult jobs? What rock do you live under that you’ve never encountered a female doctor or lawyer? Just two examples of highly skilled and challenging jobs. Your comment is so ignorant and makes you sound stupid, to be honest.
What is with all these men that keep commenting on how women don’t take on challenging jobs? I guess your egos are so fragile that all the hard-working female doctors, etc out there are invisible to you. You guys sound pathetic.
@@SCtrojanmob a female doctor is all you have for challenging. Men make up 95% of all work related deaths and they also make up 99.99% of all fatalities during war.
@@SCtrojanmob so i highly doubt that a female lawyer or doctor struggle to literally try not to die day in and day out while at work. But some men do it everyday and the day after that and so on. Go mine some blood diamonds you entitled fuck
There are female cops, firefighters, corrections officers, etc...all hard, dangerous, and difficult.
He called Carmelo a top 15 player, I’m dead
My friend who was a firm believer in the wage gap claimed it was because her mom was a high up manager in a firm that paid the men way more. I told her if that’s really the case then she has a lawsuit on her hands. It’s illegal to pay different based on sex so there ya go.
The only issue currently that could be improved for the wage gap putting individual choices aside (choosing to go into social work vs. engineering or something along those lines where you actively choose a career with a lower salary) would be to give equal paternal and maternal leave so that when the time comes when a family starts having kids, both moms and dads have the chance to take equal time off from work so women don’t lose out on those promotional offers and work hours because biologically, they can’t work right away when they’re a new mom.
that doesn't make any sense, especially if you have a company and the last thing you want to do is give more money for less work, the reason why women get maternity leave more often well as you said biologically they can't work, not because it's a charity, and because if they don't it's a clear violation of human rights, as for the fathers...well it's not like anything is gonna change physically after or before the birth of the child so they have to stop working or anything, yes it would be awesome for a new family to be together and all, but as we all learned companies are not moral beings.
What joe said its true , they are doing different jobs , a lot of women who has a very good job or doing really good gets so much also
Wow, that whole speech at the end was massively inspiring.
4:06 , keep hitting the left and right key rapidly and in time and get ready for nightmares
LMAOOO
Maybe this doesn't "count" because it's a shitty retail job... But my current stocking job with HEB, I have been trying hard to get made full time. But it was given to a female coworker who started after me, and who I helped to learn the job. (Which isn't really much, it's just stocking. But still) Which whatever, this girl is fast at her job. When she started I was the guy stepping up, being in charge to help make sure shit got done because our leads quit and one was out of work for a while. Eventually the leads came back, but when they aren't my manager starts going to this girl instead of me. But you know, I'm the privileged white male. Shit just gets handed to me.
I worked for four different companies before I went self employed. Three were run by men and one by a women. At all three of the companies ran by men the females were given priority for everything but the shit jobs. New vacant office? Female gets it. Supervisor or manager slot open? Female gets it. Hard contract that's going to require a bunch of overtime coming up? Give it to Bob.
They can spout all the shit they want about the wage gap but my life experience says that female privilege is the standard that needs to be overthrown.
It’s you, it’s not your gender
You don’t sound better then women who blame the wage gap on gender
You hypocrite sack of shit
Nah it's definitely gender mate. Worked in a supermarket and all management but the head manager was female. The guys were all stuck moving heavy stock for hours on end while the girls were literally in the makeup isle taking sniffs at all the new perfumes that come in. The managers would be having literal bitch fights in the middle of the store swearing in front of the customers over who's responsibility it was to get the orders right. No hate towards the girls who actually did their job good on them but the higher up the chain you went the younger and more incompetent they seemed to be. I don't say this out of jealousy. I was young and it was just a weekend job for extra pocket money so no I don't deserve nor want a position in management but there were definitely other guys who did deserve the position that was instead handed to the girl that had been with us for four days whose job seems to consist of doing nothing but remind the guys how useless they are. If we're running with only half staff and behind schedule then get on your knees and help. It's not their fault management is too incompetent to get the numbers right.
Not to be an ass, but we're only getting your side of the story. I had a manager that talked like you, and I eventually got him fired because he was an absolute cunt. Couldn't get his shit together and perform well at a simple retail job, stocking shelves at a lumber yard. Was fucking a cashier in an office during working hours. Called me a faggot constantly, even when I told him I didn't have time to deal with middleschool games. Verbally abused people over simply asking for information on how to do a job properly. I'm not saying that you're awful in these regards, but perhaps she's simply a much better worker than you are.
I’ve been working as payroll officer since the year 2000 and there is NO wage gap. I have never seen a female employee’s pay rate for the same job to that of a male employee’s for a lesser salary/pay rate. I earn more money then male co-workers who work as accountants but less then (male & female) Managers & Directors. Your wage is based on the job you do!!! NOT your gender.
"Wage gap" was such an awful name for it. A wage is what you're paid for a specific task. If there WAS a wage gap, there'd be an actual crisis in America.
"Earnings gap" is what we have.
But an 'earnings gap' would just be shut down with the exact same argument as the wage gap, the earnings for women are lower in comparison to men because not as many choose to do jobs such as engineering or becoming a doctor but instead become dance teachers or nurses (examples not generalisation)
So the woman who works next to me makes more than I do. We do the exact same job. I help her with issues more than she helps me and she makes more than I do.
Stop helping
This is a fallacy
Griffin Mumbelgrofft what’s that mean
it is enforced by law to pay equally to both genders, so you are lying
@@emilyknight9627 he's not necessarily lying. Just don't have all the info. How much longer has she been there?
If women were paid less, for same job employers would only hire women to save money.
Well where I work as an engineer I'm willing to bet that one of my coworkers who's female in the same exact position get's paid more than me. However, I've been with the company a few months longer but started in a different position. so she's been in our current position longer therefore it makes sense she makes more, she has more experience in the job than I do. There are a lot of things that factor into how much you make especially as a salaried employee. your skills(degree), experience( how long and where), then how profitable your company is. there can also be some economic factors like how much people with your degree typically get paid. how much money you demand if they really want you, early in your career you cant really do this. there could also be some desperation on the company's end. where they will pay more than normal for an experienced person since people like you are hard to come by. or in a case of a fresh graduate they might hire someone with no experience. With all that being said there are so many factors into how much you get paid, but it is on you to verify that it is fair. if you don't think it's fair ask for a raise r find a new job that does pay you fairly.
Seems like people feel they are entitled to work and pay. Instead of asking for a raise themselves they want the government to do it for them. grow a pair and ask yourself, because I tell you what it's a lot easier to pay 1 employee a little more to keep them happy than it is to get hundreds wanting more and you're forced to lay some people off. It's all about initiative, a vast majority of people won't do it. so use that to your advantage. ask for a raise and have some evidence to back it up. like I've done x and y for the company and it saved money or I've been working more hours lately because it seems like I have more responsibilities now. if you're reasonable most bosses might agree and say sure we'll give a raise and sometimes it might be more than your thought.
I want to see Joe Rogan baby John Oliver on his podcast regarding their differences in options portrayed in their respective programs. Two smart guys can only lead to smart answers/debates
John Oliver isn't really smart.
They literally got my reaction to the argument spot on
Almost as infuriating as the "1 in 4 women are raped on campus" myth...
Yeah cos if men used the same logic to produce their own statistic itd probably be at least like "1/5 men are raped on campus" aswell which really makes it far less of a "feminist issue"
Quick comment on their disdain for guys in the rat races. When I was in my twenties I tried being a musician, and I didn't care about money. I traveled the world and partied hard. Thing is . . . it is empty. I was pursuing the same shallow party experiences in Ireland, Paris, Greece, Oman, Thailand, and Japan that I was at home. LISTEN TO ME: embrace your obligations, invest in your community, and build a family as a real man who understands his responsibility to bring home the bacon for his wife and children.
second this. like Jordan Peterson says, you need responsibility to find meaning in your life. an easy life with no responsibilities does not feel good. you would think it would on the surface but we are not wired like that.
Im 19, and in my 16-17 i was a full leftist and i acted like what these guys described. I was less happy and i didn't even understand what values i had as a person. In these past 2 years i have become conservative and libertarian so now i feel so at peace with myself. I have difficulties getting angry nowadays lmao, i became more chill and i see the world in a totally different perspective even when shit happens. I come from a poor muslim country where a ton of shit happens espc when your a girl, so i always felt sad but now i see so many opportunities in life, so much positivity like i feel so happy. Im doing my Bachelors in CS, and I'm working so i wont have debt when i graduate. I feel so grateful for the Daily Wire, Thomas Sowell, Joe Rogan, Milton Friedman etc who really just changed my life. I look forward to the future and I'm grateful everyday. THANK YOU 😆
You should check up Candace Owens, amazing woman
@@maxcicchino6894 She definitely is, I follow her and i always get impressed by her wits and elegance when she speaks. I wish more women had the same mannerisms as her .
It’s an earnings gap-not a wage gap
the wage gap is technically real BUT it exists only because the job fields used in the experiments are tech, business, and engineering, which are dominated with men right now. so, no, women aren't getting paid less, there are just fewer women in those particular fields to men.
Jason Salgado yes exactly, but there are societal pressures that push men towards those careers and woman towards other lower paid careers. This needs to be addressed by both removing those societal pressures and in making sure that those lower paid jobs are valued correctly
mark Tanner it’s not societal it’s preference. There’s a huge push to get girls into STEM but the fact is a lot of woman aren’t interested in STEM and choose not to go into it. They’re just not interested sometimes just as some males aren’t. That’s not societies fault
The thing you’re missing is that there are societal pressures pushing women towards different careers as men, and the market does partially value that work less based on their gender.
My partner earns more than me. I'm a stay at home Dad.
See, Joe Rogan is smarter than he portrays. He throws out softball questions when he has people like Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang on his podcast.
he's a pretty smart guy he just seems dumb when he has people on who are very intelligent and experts in their fields
Joe "whatever the fuck it is that you do" Rogan.
Honestly, If more people start thinking like him, the world would become a better place.
Joe talk about Alex Jones calling you out!! What gives man?!
Blake Hunt
*GLOBALIST DETECTED*
Joe knows he fucked up on the soros subject-the guy fucking admitted it on a 60 minutes interview!
So do any of you guys believe in angels?
Hòlktdon Phonixxxmonkie80085rules, he already did. Check the other videos.
Nobody gives a shit about Alex Jones.