You shouldn’t be so intent on watching the pianist. I suggest listening to the music they make. Daniil Trifonov makes many weird faces in performance, but his musicianship is so fine. I don’t discredit him for emoting at the piano. Same with Sokolov sometimes. Yes you may just be “irritated” because it makes you uncomfortable...
You should hear him now. I just heard him in the front row at Lincoln Center, playing Beethoven Third with the New York Philharmonic. It was one of the greatest concerto performances I've ever heard in my entire life. Great audience response too. He gave every last note full attention, and played with great musicianship and colossal virtuosity. Never even smudged in the slightest. I was 8 feet from his hands, and he was in utter command.
Watching young Mr. Grosvenor can only affirm a believe in divine providence. Oh, I know how hard he worked, but the sheer innate ability, at such a tender age, is so special. Simply wonderful and amazing.
These were the days when BBC TV still had some credibilty regarding the arts. The wonderful performances by the young Benjamin Grosvenor would only rate a few minutes of air time now in 2024. We have token extracts of musicians while tennis and soccer are on for hours plus highlights and discussions just to make sure we all get it. Snooker and even darts- DARTS for Christs sake get more coverage. Understand, I love the BBC and hate the voices that do not recognise its worth but it is an uphill struggle at times. On a positive note is so nice to look back at the BBC Young Musician and piano virtuoso Benjamin Grosvenor.
Simply Amazing! and he continues to amaze the public attending each of his concerts. I was super impressed when I attended his concert with Houston Symphony, but for me was Benjamin Grosvenor unforgettable concerto performance attending 2023 BBC Proms at Royale Albert Hall in London. Amazing talent & one of the greatest young pianists of our times. Many of his fans are now looking forward to his concert at 2023 Chopin & Europe International music festival in Warsaw, PL. His hands are magic.
Great, wonderful, Benjamin Grosvenor has already as child so much in his Soul !!!! THANKSFULLY to him and to Maurice RAVEL inspiring him here too !!!💗💗
I've heard pretty much all the youtube videos of this concert. Ben at the age of 12 plays the 2nd movement like no one. Perfect balance, poetic, emotional, with the peaceful mind of a young boy with an old soul. ..all the acomplished pianists tend to get too emotional and over express , emphasize too much this beautiful addagio asai. To me this is the perfect version, the purest one.. simply divine
he has played a recital every year here in Miami for about 5 years now and to watch him grow as a pianist over the years has been inspiring - he returns again on 3/5/19 to enchant us
Already a wonderful artist even at this tender age. Close your eyes and just listen. It is hard to believe that someone so young could actually perform and control the piano part of this difficult concerto.
wow. someone suggested benjamin's recording of gaspard de la nuit. mmm...so good. ended up here. what a great performance. and his smile at the finish...kinda perfect. thanks for sharing this!
THE RAVEL PIECE IS ENCHANTING AND SEEING A 12 YEAR PLAYING SO MASTERFULLY IS UNCANNY. HE WILL BE PLAYING IN CHICAGO IN FEBRUARY, 2017 AND I'M THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS NOW 24 ENGLISH LAD'S PROGRESS. SURE TO BE A WINNER!
What a beautiful piece this is, so sensitively played, with such remarkable concentration and skill a joy to listen to! Also great to see his progression.
L'ayant entendu dans Liszt ce matin, je découvre avec stupéfaction ce génie du piano...incroyable ! A seulement 12 ans, retenir ce difficile concerto, par coeur, quel génie ! quel gamin incroyable ! et quelle simplicité dans le mouvement lent, aussi !
This performance of one of my favourite works absolutely mesmerised me! I had, (and have!) never heard a better performance. Totally amazing. What I like even more, is that he has gone on to 'greater' things, and there are now several of his performances on UA-cam. Each one has brought me a new insight into the work, and has provided a new thinking, which is so rare. All played with the same dedication and care that he shows here - no flamboyance or showmanship. Wonderful, wonderful man. More power to him. As an example, hear him play Liszt No 2 , opening the Proms at the age of 18! Absolutely my favourite, even eclipsing Richter for me, which I never thought possible. BTW - Darren Motise, I sympathise with you, but we must remember that the conductor is the person who prepares the piece in rehearsal, so the orchestra and soloist will be used to his ways. The performance is only the culmination of all the hard work that goes on beforehand, which is why he, (she) gets the plaudits, rather in the same way as the director of a film. Just a thought! Lol.
Such amazing concentration! Notice how he cites the 2nd movement as the most difficult because of its poetry. He really plays the piano with his brain.
The second movement is also notoriously difficult to memorize--though not, perhaps, for him. I noticed that he changed the ascending chromatic scale in the final bars of the 3rd movement, to fit his child-size hands.
@@djmotise It never repeats itself, the opening melody is never once the same. It can be a challenge to memorise but for a professional I'm sure it's not a huge deal.
@@jabarzey There is a reprise in which the cor anglais takes the full melody, and the piano solo must completely subordinate his up and down running scales and accompany with his left hand.
The description of the "Music in this video" is way off. The orchestra is the BBC Scottish Symphony, and the conductor Ilan Volkov. James Judd and the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic recorded the piece with Grosvenor about a decade later.
Yeah, UA-cam's algorithm gets it wrong so often with classical music. Clearly no human fact-checking happening for this genre. There used to be a way to report errors about that info, which I'm no longer seeing today, but even if I were, they're not exactly paying folks to clean up their errors, so ...
I never even heard this Ravel piece before. It starts out sounding like Stravinsky then takes a hard left into Gershwinville all in the first movement.
Ravel heard a performance of one of Gershwin's musicals in New York and then sought Gershwin out. He heard him play his Rhapsody in Blue and most probably the Concerto in F. Both works were undeniable influences upon this work.
An orchestra I played with programmed this alongside the Gershwin Concerto in F, it was one of the most fantastic concerts I ever was a part of. Young Ben played every bit as well as Leon Bates did
A fantastic pianist who will mature to be one of the greatest ever. I suspect the conductor set the slightly-too-fast second movement tempo, because Ben's tempi are always perfect.
He plays the final ascending passage as a chromatic scale because his hands probably couldn't comfortably reach the minor 9ths in the score. (But I don't recall if the scale is an ossia or not.) Amazing. (Funny, how we never saw him on Ellen, which is reserved for the fake prodigies whose parents claim their kids have talent, when they don't.)
I think you are right.I find it interesting to hear it this way.It is an idea I think and has its own quality too. But you are right. He played with us some years ago a Chopin Concerto. He played great, but my polish colleagues didn't like it. He is young and will change for sure. Here he was 11 and in the meantime he for sure is grown up heavily.
Only, a very bitter consideration concerning the numbers of UA-cam videos views: Today 4 november, 2021 PSY - GANGNAM STYLE - posted or published (you choose the right term) 9 years ago : 4.2 Billion. This present video - s.a.s. = same as above - 3 november 2016, that is 4 years ago : 38,043. My personal conclusion: I feel deeply ashamed of myself for being a human being and for being part ,until who knows when, of this lousy world! Take care every body, cheers from Rome, Italy and GOD SAVE OUR IMMENSE BEN GROSVENOR!
Are there no speech pathologists in England for schoolchildren?? Why is this gifted young man saddled with a lateral lisp as well as fronting problems??? He should have been receiving services from the age of 5!
The conductor gave the crappiest prep beat at the start. It's a miracle the pianist started right. Imagine, this young boy with all this talent, and yet these arm-wavers usually get all the attention, for dancing on a podium and confusing orchestras with their lousy beat patterns. I'm not a fan of conductors.
I am a pro and the conducting and of course the prep beat at the beginning is absolutely correct. I don't know what is your problem with conductors. I often have problems with conductors but not with this one. He is absolutely precise and clear in what he wants.
@@MichaSchlechtriem Well, if you're a conductor, you probably will never know why many people have issue with conductors. I'm a "pro" too, you know. And I think I explained myself pretty well in my comment. And conductors are useless at least 50 percent of the time. If most conductors weren't so arrogant and full of themselves, maybe people would respect them more. So many of them show very little humility, and they don't understand that the orchestral musicians don't need to be educated by them. Orpheus proved they aren't even needed overall.
His teacher probably taught him the tiresome obligatory handshakes at the end. Pianists should not give their hands immediately to the conductor. Why not just take a bow? So sick of this.
one of the great prodigies of all time
Indeed. No question.
So pleased to have had played this piece with Benjamin and the Halle orchestra this week.
Finally, a pianist who doesn't irritate the hell out of me with fakeness. Bravo.
exactly,
You shouldn’t be so intent on watching the pianist. I suggest listening to the music they make. Daniil Trifonov makes many weird faces in performance, but his musicianship is so fine. I don’t discredit him for emoting at the piano. Same with Sokolov sometimes. Yes you may just be “irritated” because it makes you uncomfortable...
@@nicb4589 His/her point is that most of it is "fake".
You should hear him now. I just heard him in the front row at Lincoln Center, playing Beethoven Third with the New York Philharmonic. It was one of the greatest concerto performances I've ever heard in my entire life. Great audience response too. He gave every last note full attention, and played with great musicianship and colossal virtuosity. Never even smudged in the slightest. I was 8 feet from his hands, and he was in utter command.
I’m about to hear him play Schumann Concerto in February... I seriously cannot wait!!!
The second movement just flows through him. He's not playing it. It is playing him.
Watching young Mr. Grosvenor can only affirm a believe in divine providence. Oh, I know how hard he worked, but the sheer innate ability, at such a tender age, is so special. Simply wonderful and amazing.
These were the days when BBC TV still had some credibilty regarding the arts. The wonderful performances by the young Benjamin Grosvenor would only rate a few minutes of air time now in 2024. We have token extracts of musicians while tennis and soccer are on for hours plus highlights and discussions just to make sure we all get it. Snooker and even darts- DARTS for Christs sake get more coverage. Understand, I love the BBC and hate the voices that do not recognise its worth but it is an uphill struggle at times. On a positive note is so nice to look back at the BBC Young Musician and piano virtuoso Benjamin Grosvenor.
Simply Amazing! and he continues to amaze the public attending each of his concerts. I was super impressed when I attended his concert with Houston Symphony, but for me was Benjamin Grosvenor unforgettable concerto performance attending 2023 BBC Proms at Royale Albert Hall in London. Amazing talent & one of the greatest young pianists of our times. Many of his fans are now looking forward to his concert at 2023 Chopin & Europe International music festival in Warsaw, PL. His hands are magic.
Great, wonderful, Benjamin Grosvenor has already as child so much in his Soul !!!! THANKSFULLY to him and to Maurice RAVEL inspiring him here too !!!💗💗
I've heard pretty much all the youtube videos of this concert. Ben at the age of 12 plays the 2nd movement like no one. Perfect balance, poetic, emotional, with the peaceful mind of a young boy with an old soul. ..all the acomplished pianists tend to get too emotional and over express , emphasize too much this beautiful addagio asai. To me this is the perfect version, the purest one.. simply divine
he has played a recital every year here in Miami for about 5 years now and to watch him grow as a pianist over the years has been inspiring - he returns again on 3/5/19 to enchant us
He looks totally nervous but plays right through it! And his smile at the end!!!
Already a wonderful artist even at this tender age. Close your eyes and just listen. It is hard to believe that someone so young could actually perform and control the piano part of this difficult concerto.
wow. someone suggested benjamin's recording of gaspard de la nuit. mmm...so good. ended up here. what a great performance. and his smile at the finish...kinda perfect. thanks for sharing this!
his Ondine is my favourite I've ever heard
What a bright boy! Beautiful playing
THE RAVEL PIECE IS ENCHANTING AND SEEING A 12 YEAR PLAYING SO MASTERFULLY IS UNCANNY. HE WILL BE
PLAYING IN CHICAGO IN FEBRUARY, 2017 AND I'M THRILLED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS NOW 24
ENGLISH LAD'S PROGRESS. SURE TO BE A WINNER!
Astonishing ! How could Ben have not won young musician of the year ?
@@yosserc Thank you, I'll check Nicola out.
At Nicola's age, Ben would have won@@yosserc
Really wonderful !
Blessed kid 🙏🏻 bravissimo 💐👌🏼👏🏼
What a beautiful piece this is, so sensitively played, with such remarkable concentration and skill a joy to listen to! Also great to see his progression.
L'ayant entendu dans Liszt ce matin, je découvre avec stupéfaction ce génie du piano...incroyable ! A seulement 12 ans, retenir ce difficile concerto, par coeur, quel génie ! quel gamin incroyable ! et quelle simplicité dans le mouvement lent, aussi !
Il n'y a pas de "génies", mais des êtres au delà des êtres
@@jeudelaguerre4222 '
What an amazing performance. Such wisdom in the execution of this difficult, sophisticated piece. Boy wonder !
This performance of one of my favourite works absolutely mesmerised me! I had, (and have!) never heard a better performance. Totally amazing.
What I like even more, is that he has gone on to 'greater' things, and there are now several of his performances on UA-cam. Each one has brought me a new insight into the work, and has provided a new thinking, which is so rare. All played with the same dedication and care that he shows here - no flamboyance or showmanship.
Wonderful, wonderful man. More power to him.
As an example, hear him play Liszt No 2 , opening the Proms at the age of 18! Absolutely my favourite, even eclipsing Richter for me, which I never thought possible.
BTW - Darren Motise, I sympathise with you, but we must remember that the conductor is the person who prepares the piece in rehearsal, so the orchestra and soloist will be used to his ways. The performance is only the culmination of all the hard work that goes on beforehand, which is why he, (she) gets the plaudits, rather in the same way as the director of a film. Just a thought! Lol.
22:54 yes ...
beautiful mind and soul, a great musician
Such amazing concentration! Notice how he cites the 2nd movement as the most difficult because of its poetry. He really plays the piano with his brain.
The second movement is also notoriously difficult to memorize--though not, perhaps, for him. I noticed that he changed the ascending chromatic scale in the final bars of the 3rd movement, to fit his child-size hands.
yes he did. and what an amazing chromatic scale it was. now he plays it as written, of course.
Why would the second movement be difficult to memorize? I never heard this to be so.
@@djmotise It never repeats itself, the opening melody is never once the same. It can be a challenge to memorise but for a professional I'm sure it's not a huge deal.
@@jabarzey There is a reprise in which the cor anglais takes the full melody, and the piano solo must completely subordinate his up and down running scales and accompany with his left hand.
This is "out cold" Ben. Thank you for kicking so much ass.
Immense talent!
The description of the "Music in this video" is way off. The orchestra is the BBC Scottish Symphony, and the conductor Ilan Volkov. James Judd and the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic recorded the piece with Grosvenor about a decade later.
Yeah, UA-cam's algorithm gets it wrong so often with classical music. Clearly no human fact-checking happening for this genre. There used to be a way to report errors about that info, which I'm no longer seeing today, but even if I were, they're not exactly paying folks to clean up their errors, so ...
I never saw the description youtube added! My channel has now had 2 strikes so please look for my content on Rumble , same name jobod92.
I never even heard this Ravel piece before. It starts out sounding like Stravinsky then takes a hard left into Gershwinville all in the first movement.
Ravel composed both this concerto and his D-major concerto for the left hand after a visit to the USA and his exposure to "le jazz".
Ravel heard a performance of one of Gershwin's musicals in New York and then sought Gershwin out. He heard him play his Rhapsody in Blue and most probably the Concerto in F. Both works were undeniable influences upon this work.
An orchestra I played with programmed this alongside the Gershwin Concerto in F, it was one of the most fantastic concerts I ever was a part of. Young Ben played every bit as well as Leon Bates did
Is This Really True? Is This Really Possible? This overwhelming son of Muses!
Wonderful.
Incredible use of these down times spaces. I'm enjoying this execution of the piece.
And to think he didn't even win the overall prize. Insane.
darren motise who did that year?
slingsby86 i think nicola benedetti
A fantastic pianist who will mature to be one of the greatest ever. I suspect the conductor set the slightly-too-fast second movement tempo, because Ben's tempi are always perfect.
A 11 yr ate my happy meal and did this Ravel masterpieces. What tf did you do??
He plays the final ascending passage as a chromatic scale because his hands probably couldn't comfortably reach the minor 9ths in the score. (But I don't recall if the scale is an ossia or not.) Amazing. (Funny, how we never saw him on Ellen, which is reserved for the fake prodigies whose parents claim their kids have talent, when they don't.)
it’s actually a legitimate ossia
Spot on! So many fake prodigies on Ellen. Just as long as the kid can speak eloquently and can be witty too, you’re on!
@@hamzahjohanneshattingh Well said!
Emily Bear was a real prodigy though, maybe the only exception to the Ellen observation
c'e' sempre l'invidioso che nega validita' ai geni…!!!
Incrível. Talento é outra coisa
How is this even possible !
Hail wunderkind! Like a new comet you burn bright!
This was 17 years ago
This is just so crazy. How does this happen????
@2:54 beauty
Grade 8 before he's even in Grade 8
😍😍😍😍😍
I'm looking for my son Johnathin Grovesner mother Shirley he'd be about 30 now I'm not giving up
Plays like God, only better...
Haha.Perhaps.
He's good, but there's no need to blaspheme.
It's pronowced Grozzven-wah yo!!
@@yosserc LeQuiovenn-NOYER actually
Only one thing, if I may:
Second movement way too fast. This way you don't achieve the astounding dreamfulness
of the piece. Otherwise amazing.
I think you are right.I find it interesting to hear it this way.It is an idea I think and has its own quality too.
But you are right.
He played with us some years ago a Chopin Concerto.
He played great, but my polish colleagues didn't like it.
He is young and will change for sure.
Here he was 11 and in the meantime he for sure is grown up heavily.
Only, a very bitter consideration concerning the numbers of UA-cam videos views:
Today 4 november, 2021
PSY - GANGNAM STYLE - posted or published (you choose the right term) 9 years ago : 4.2 Billion.
This present video - s.a.s. = same as above - 3 november 2016, that is 4 years ago : 38,043.
My personal conclusion:
I feel deeply ashamed of myself for being a human being
and for being part ,until who knows when, of this lousy world!
Take care every body, cheers from Rome, Italy and GOD SAVE OUR IMMENSE BEN GROSVENOR!
ok
senza reincarnazione non sarebbe possibile nascere ...''maturi cosi' 0''
adagio 9:44
Are there no speech pathologists in England for schoolchildren?? Why is this gifted young man saddled with a lateral lisp as well as fronting problems??? He should have been receiving services from the age of 5!
The conductor gave the crappiest prep beat at the start. It's a miracle the pianist started right. Imagine, this young boy with all this talent, and yet these arm-wavers usually get all the attention, for dancing on a podium and confusing orchestras with their lousy beat patterns. I'm not a fan of conductors.
darren motise prep beat
I am a pro and the conducting and of course the prep beat at the beginning is absolutely correct.
I don't know what is your problem with conductors.
I often have problems with conductors but not with this one.
He is absolutely precise and clear in what he wants.
@@MichaSchlechtriem Well, if you're a conductor, you probably will never know why many people have issue with conductors. I'm a "pro" too, you know. And I think I explained myself pretty well in my comment. And conductors are useless at least 50 percent of the time. If most conductors weren't so arrogant and full of themselves, maybe people would respect them more. So many of them show very little humility, and they don't understand that the orchestral musicians don't need to be educated by them. Orpheus proved they aren't even needed overall.
His big note mistake at 20:20 is his karmic punishment for taking such a fast tempo and terrorizing the bassoonists in their notorious passage.
Either you are a frustrated loser or you have a really bad character.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY ANNOYING!!!
This boy must be the love-child of Susan Boyle and her ex-boyfriend. The resemblance is so striking.
His teacher probably taught him the tiresome obligatory handshakes at the end. Pianists should not give their hands immediately to the conductor. Why not just take a bow? So sick of this.
Bob Trenwith LOL