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I’m stunned at the ignorance in this video, total lack of knowledge and respect. You guys want to be entertained? Continue attending your motivational speeches in pajamas and rock concert
Pajamas or suits and veils. Rock concerts with superbass and motivational speeches or reverent, traditional liturgy and Gregorian chants. Martin Luther doesn’t believe in biblical inerrancy and reworked the entire Bible to fit his own narrative. All of his work was built upon the early church fathers and doctrines, without them, the reformation would have never happened. Were Catholics not saved for a full 1500 years? The true church is the Holy Catholic Church whether you like it or not. How many hundreds of Protestant sects are there? 99.9% of Protestants who refute the Catholic Church bring forth typical Protestant strawmans.
No wonder Catholics be wildin? Is he referring to abuse scandals? Research indicates that sexual abuse is a significant issue across various religious denominations, not unique to the Catholic Church. A study found that Protestant churches reported an average of 260 claims of alleged sexual abuse per year from 1987 to 2007, compared to about 100 claims per year against Catholic priests during the same period.
I love Catholicism❤
Exactly ‘reverence’ is what mass is about. Quiet reverence but I used to feel like these guys until I came to understand the truth about the mass. They are being deceived by the evil one.
The Catholic Mass isnt supposed to be entertaining, we go to mass to worship God and Christ present in the Eucharist. It is the orthodox continuation of early Christian worship.
@@Notouchs AMEN! I was literally going to say this.
I hope we all stop going to church to be entertained. I felt empty when I went to church looking to be wowed by music and sermons.
I go to reach church in whiteplains, and the worship is awesome, you can literally feel the presence of God as the people turn to God and worship. This guy was saying how it was a dry mass where he didn’t even know when the preaching started. And it is biblical for the bishop to be married.
@@J34moise I think it is a ridiculous strawman to assert that we go to church to be entertained, no, we go to church to feel the presence of God, to worship Him with passion, to learn of His word, and God's presence is not in dead and dry liturgy.
@@SeanWintersthe feeling we get when we enter one of your “churches” Matthew 21:12-13,Mark 11:15-18
@@SeanWinters fr 😒
Priests were never restricted from marrying on the bible. They can be of one wife. The book of Timothy *SPECIFICALLY* mentions to NOT listen to people who tell you not to marry or not to eat meat. The Orthodox church atleast allows preists to stay married. I'm not saying Catholics aren't Christians, but they will always fall behind Protestants in many ways.
I’m a Protestant who recently attended my first Mass and I found it beautiful and very spiritual in a very different way. No light shows, loud music, or rock concert like worship.
They showed so much reverence and it was all about God and not OUR entertainment which I really enjoyed and wished we as Protestants would have more of.
And the way they do communion was the most beautiful thing IMO.
God bless🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I go to a non denominational church. I recently went a Catholic Church that sang hymn’s. I cried over the beautiful songs, architecture, paintings, and marble columns. The fact that every single person bowed before they sat down was so beautiful. I was in complete awe. I’m signing up for RCIA next Friday. I can’t wait for my first Eucharist next year. 🙏 My decision hasn’t been easy, but I’m only chasing God. He’s all I need.
Both of them have good music, but I prefer the Protestant music by far. Anglican and some Baptist churches maintain many of the Catholic choirs and hyms sounds, so I wouldn't necessarily call that exclusive to Catholicism.
What do you mean by reverence? How so?
@@dahliaherrod4301 Reverence is fear of God with deep respect, honor and homage. Sister, the mass is how the apostles worship during the early days. This is how JESUS WANTED to be worshipped with receiving HIM in the EUCHARIST, which is the REAL PRESENCE. the TRUE BODY and BLOOD of JESUS CHRIST.
@@kri909 I just wanted to make sure I properly understood you. I agree with you on the definition of the fear of God. I'm not Catholic though so you're using a term I don't know the meaning-Eucharist. I'm only 2 years into the faith. Will you explain that to me please?
The apostles thought praying in the garden was a snoozefest, but it was very important to Christ.
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@@smartismarti4049 good one 🙌
@@smartismarti4049 Really good observation!
Bro goes to church for entertainment. It’s like the Christian version of an iPad kid
frr bro saying it was borning cuz bro didnt pay attention
Be kind brother, come on now
@@bsan7070 stating facts
@@FoezzelKING I don’t think it was for entertainment, he was just saying that #1 he couldn’t even hear the message, and #2 he didn’t even feel like the worship was even worshiping
I really don’t like arguing with other believers, but we shouldn’t make fun of each other like that. We can respectfully and sternly rebuke each other but we should put each other down. We are suppose to build each other up as the body of the church. Jesus and the apostles taught this
@@bsan7070 I came from his scene bro, I’m going to 100% poke fun 😂
I would think mass is boring until I understood it, now I cry at the beauty
Same!!!!
Agreed. First reading....always from the mass consists of the first reading from the old testament, Psalms, second reading, then alleluia with a Bible verse, then the Gospel of Jesus which will coordinate to fulfilling of the old testament reading you heard at the begining of mass.
Then a homily/sermon
Then the Nicene creed,
Then preparation of the Eucharist which is almost all out of the book of revelations. And also God's commands for us. Including the Lord's prayer.
Lots of kneeling before God in mass too.
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The first protestant church I went to shocked me seeing smoke shows, coffee, and rock songs in a church. But no reflection and repentance. Was fun and entertaining worship songs but no reference for the sanctity of God the father.
Amen ❤
Why is it hard to listen to someone who’s chosen to be celibate? They know discipline better than any married man I’ve ever met.
Exactly. Jesus was celibate. Don't we listen to Him?
As a married man here with 3 kids under 5 years old, your comment made me laugh 😅 It sure feels like I have to exercise even more self discipline now than I did as a single believer!
@@DanOcchiogrosso-uj4be I’m talking in terms of chastity. Most men cannot take upon the vocation of living a sexless life in such a sex crazed world
As a recent concert to the Catholic Church from Baptist, there's so much about this take that shows why I left protestantism. There's a complete misunderstanding of why we go to church. We're there to offer worship to God, not to entertain ourselves.
Exactly
Doesn’t matter what denomination you go to empty lips don’t reach God only prayer that’s genuine is what matters proteststant or catholic
Being baptized catholic doesn't mean you can take the Eucharist anytime. You need to be in a state of grace.
He implied that.
@@Church888 No he didn't. He implied they were baptized as kids. For catholics, to participage in communion, you need to be a practicing catholic, in the sense you go to church every Sunday and holy days of obligation and not be in state of mortal sin.
@@bvpmiranda , that's why he didn't do it, doof 😲
@@Church888 he said they, friends or family, could have gone, but chose not to. So no, he didn’t imply anything. And I don’t know what doof means, but I have it wasn’t anything uncharitable since I wasn’t impolite with you at any time.
I understand the rules and the priest knowing their congratulation, but it should be anyone who believes in Christ should be allowed.
I’ve been going to a Catholic Church now for about 4 months. I come from a Pentecostal AOG church. What I love about the mass is that worship is not solely based on the musical instruments or the charism of the preacher but is based on the sacrifice of the Mass. I obviously am not able to receive the Eucharist as I have to go through confirmation first, something I’m working towards for myself and my family. But I love the uniformity of every one lining up and receiving the blessed sacrament. I also love the uniformity of everyone kneeling, signing the cross, and praying the prayers and the creed together. I love giving the kiss of peace to my wife and kids during mass and giving the sign of peace to all the laity. He brought up that their is no child care so your kid or kids have to be with you. I have a 4 year old so with that when we went church he is used to child care and was not totally feeling the mass. And the honestly that could have been the deciding factor of me coming back but the Lord told me keep bringing him. And now he knows what’s up! Same with one of my other sons who I had to scold in front of everyone and it was embarrassing but I didn’t let that get me down and when we came back next week he knew what’s up lol! So I love having my kids next to me at mass. The church I go to, evidently is also called St. John the Baptist, here in Folsom CA, offers 4 different mass times. I was drawn first to the Catholic Church before my wife, so we would still go to the AOG church at that time it was offered and then I would go to mass at 6pm. She eventually started to attend with me too and now she fell in love with it. So thanks to the multiple mass times we were able have a smooth transition from our previous church to this one. I have gone to a Greek Orthodox Church before and the liturgy compared to our Catholic Church is actually alot more beautiful, and that’s cool, but again I’m not coming just for the ascetic but I’m coming to a church that is in communion with the bishop of Rome. So I would encourage everyone to come back to full communion with the Catholic Church! May we all be one again! That’s my prayer!
This was a wonderful statement. Thanks for sharing that❤
Happy for you!
🙏🏾 Godbless your journey home 🤍
Cant listen to a man w no wife and kids? I guess that disqualifies Jesus, Elijah, and Paul….. man do these people think before they speak?
The ignorance is astounding coming from Christian with large UA-cam following
It's not supposed to be entertaining. Do y'all think the Last Supper was a rock concert or something?
im almost certain hes not talking about it being entertaining. If you cant capture people with preaching and the scripture then what is the point of it? finding a biblical church is the most important.
why are y’all so upset, no one said anything about being entertained… just that involvement of congregants is subpar. maybe that could change, but no one goes to church for entertainment, we know you all think we do but we don’t. church also doesn’t have to be “boring” you all have the beautiful buildings, and mysticalness down, but involvement and personability is lacking.. all churches have areas they could improve.
@@zacksampson6189well, some priest are good at it and some aren't. The resident priest in my parish is amazing with his homilies, and he usually causes Sunday mass to go an hour and a half, and he's full of energy and passion for God and the parish. I go to church every Sunday now. Even if I'm dead tired.
Also, most of the Mass is Biblical and practically taken straight from the Bible, except for hymns and the homily. Basically, mass does not have much creativity and is mostly copy and paste. I've also gone to protestant churches that had no fun either, but I don't go for fun. I go to learn and to have a connection with God and the parish. Once a pastor wasn't really good at capturing the audience with his sermons, and he did a lot of judging instead of preaching and teaching us.
@@living_epistlesthis tells me that you have never been to a Catholic church, and if you have you only went once. My parish gets lively during our recessional hymn. Each parish is different. Why? Because it depends on the type of people that attend. Some people prefer a more traditional mass where they get to spend more time praying on their own and meditating. Some people prefer a more modern mass where there is more unison during the mass and more involment from the people. I personally prefer a more traditional mass, so sometimes I will drive a little further to go to a parish that has the traditional Latin mass. You're also not taking into account culture. My parish is mostly Hispanic and they tend to have a more lively mass during the Spanish mass. The mass I go to is an English one and is mostly older people who prefer the modern mass, but still meditative, so we tend to only get lively during the last hymns, unless it's lent or advant. So, the "constructive criticism" you provided doesn't really help here, because most Catholics who go to church tend to like it how it is at the parish they go at. I personally stopped going to nondenominational Sunday service because I didn't get it.
Do you think God is supposed to be boring? And what do you call your love of icons and old rituals? That's entertainment! Like a movie you watch with your family every year, just because it's boring doesn't mean it isn't entertainment, and just because REAL churches are exciting (more accurately: helpful and thoughtful and applicable to life) doesn't mean they're "entertainment".
It's as if you think church is supposed to be boring, that's so sad and disrespectful to our Creator.
Mass isn’t for your entertainment.
if you are bored during Mass that is your issue
@@catesaathoff6741 I’d say if you’re bored during Mass it’s not necessarily a bad thing, just stay focused on worshiping God
Your commentary on the Catholic Mass is very ignorant.
Yes. Borderline cringey and painful
Doesn’t even sound like a Catholic mass makes no sense
The disrespect is insane and I’m not even catholic. Not too late to delete this and repent.
@@ItsOnPaper it’s just his experience, i don’t think he was intending to attack anyone personally. the church has different traditions for a reason, he did acknowledge it was probably just the one he went to, but no church is perfect, so an experience is an experience, doesn’t need to be taken personally.
@@living_epistlesthank for clarifying that.
I get it, but I would rather hear his unfiltered thoughts than a nicely put together statement.
Quick corrections: It's called a homily, not a sermon. The person who did the homily was a deacon. Deacons can be married if they are married prior to becoming a deacon and they give the homily if they are there with the priest. They also stay permanently a deacon if they are married. Seminary priests are deacons at first prior to becoming priest.
We don't go to mass to be entertained. So, to say it was a snooze fest says more about the expectations of church rather than what actually should be done. This also sounds like it was a Mass on the weekday which is why it would be shorter. Sunday Mass has an extra reading and the homilies are longer. Sunday Mass is at least an hour long but some like Easter Vigil can go as long as 3 hours.
Just because you're baptized in the Catholic church doesn't mean you can take communion willy nilly. If you are in mortal sin you have to go to confession first prior in engaging in communion.
We have books in the pews with the song numbers up front if you want to sing along. That's how you know what they're singing our the daily missal as well in the pew.
This is a poor take on the Catholic mass. You clearly don't understand the mass and who brought you set you up for failure. Pretty disappointing to be honest. Please, if you go again at least brush up on the mass and why we do what we do and the significance of it all.
Well said
Correct ❤
Very well said.
@@stickmastergib3665DOOM
Yeah I don't think we should take anything Ruslan or anyone on his team says about Catholic mass seriously as they could have researched it before going into it if they were being genuine about experiencing the mass and understanding.
“Snooze fest”. When you don’t get that Mass was made to save you not entertain you.
The attitude is unbelievable
Total lack of knowledge and pure ignorance
Don't know how he overlooked there were three different readings from the Bible, that happens at every mass, and different ones every week of course. The first two are read by church members, then the Gospel is read by the priest. The sermon, which we call a homily, is the priest explaining the reading and the lesson we need to learn from it. But here is a very interesting part some Protestant Christians may not know, the "universality" of the Catholic church. The readings are the same in Toronto, near where I'm from, as they are in Vancouver, Ohio, Florida, Australia, Africa, Italy etc. I have family living in those parts and if you are talking to them, you can discuss the same readings and lesson from that Mass. So we are literally all on the same page. God Bless!
Yet a viral complaint is "I wasn't being fed there."
Huh?
I said once "well, what about the Eucharist" bc I took for granted about the daily liturgy of the Word....and I got backlash on that. It can only be a lie from the devil that they are blinded from seeing. More proof to fortify the truth of the Mass itself.
As a “high church” Presbyterian, a lot of the comments made about Catholics here aren’t far from my church. There’s no worship band. Children stay with us in the service. We recite the Nicene creed. We stand, sit, kneel throughout the liturgy.
We are a snooze fest if expecting to be entertained. Personally, I would rather be in a snooze fest done to the glory of God for all eternity than to spend even one day entertained by anything else in the world! (Psalm 84😉)
I promise you one thing it never glorifies God if you shout loud at your sports team than you do when worshiping the God of the universe.
@@zachboles8466 Why do you need to be shouting when worshipping God?
@@Ineedtruth1 I’m not sure you understand the thought. I was simply saying don’t be more passionate about your sports team than you are about worshiping God. If you want to worship God quietly because that’s who you are praise God! But don’t be the guy that has his hands in his pockets during worship but screams at the tv screen a hour later about his football team.
@@zachboles8466 I don’t think you can really learn much about a person’s interior life by comparing their behavior at church to their behavior watching a sports game. Firstly because you can never know the hearts of others and secondly because church and sports are two different things with different sorts of appropriate behaviors. Sure, we ought to love God more than sports but having your hands in your pocket at church and then screaming at your tv an hour later doesn’t indicate in the least bit that a person doesn’t love God more than sports.
@@Ineedtruth1 it really does indicate where your passion lays. Like I said before, nothing wrong with worshiping quietly if that is how you are wired but that’s usually the person that watches sports or insert their favorite passion without losing their mind. If you lose your mind and are extremely passionate about everything but worshiping God you may just be worshiping your passion NOT God.
It's like a child who loves strawberry ice cream eating strawberries for the first time. If the only thing you've tasted your entire life is "stuff that tastes like strawberries," the fruit will taste sour.
Wow I am gonna steal this line
It's pure worship, Bible study and catechism are separate. Mass is purely about hearing the good news focusing on it mentally and meditating while all of calvary is replayed during the mass.
My wife are I are protestants, raised Catholic, but very recently we feel like we’re being drawn back to the Catholic Church not necessarily to become Catholic but that there will be a bridging of Protestant & Catholic legs of the Church. It’s as if we have things to learn from them and vice versa.
Anyone else been feeling like this?
I don’t know but I pray for this daily ❤️ there is the grounding of the early church fathers and the scriptural and historical depth of Catholic Mass that is missing in many Protestant denominations, and there is an openness to movements of the Holy Spirit that can sometimes be missing in Catholic culture (to name just a few of the things each side can gain from the other)
I grew up catholic but a theologically Protestant so I chose anglican Via media
Yes! Husband and I have been dedicated to our lord a savior since 2018. We started at a Spanish Pentecostal church and then switch to an English nondenominational church. But this year, I started learning the history of the Catholic Church. I started having these weird nightmares that made me realize I was not expressing how torn my heart has been. I spoke to my husband. He’s not on the same exact boat as me and I completely understand. He’s not much of a reader, or listener, he’s a man that expresses himself through actions. Luckily, he will be joining me for RCIA this fall. I pray it’s what God wants for us. Husband and I are both cradle Catholic’s.
I’m a catholic and attend a non-denominational/baptist Bible study group but I’ve been praying daily for a few years that Catholics, orthodox, and Protestants can stop fighting against one another and instead fight alongside each other against the dark forces that try to tear this world apart
Go home brother and sister. But this time spend time to truly learn and understand the church’s traditions to remove all doubt
Don’t make me drop that cold Shia lebouf quote….
“The Mass isn’t about selling you Catholicism. It’s about the worship of almighty God of which we are privileged to take part.”
@@MarDuBronx "The Mass isn’t about selling you Catholicism". But that quote sure does haha
@@someman7...no
@@MarDuBronxIndeed. The worship is designed to please God. It is not designed to please us. Though if you love God I don't understand why you wouldn't enjoy participating in it. I know I do. If I want to get together with my friends and sing Christian rock songs I will do that on my own time. ☦️
I converted to the Roman Catholic Church in 2021. I was an evangelical most of my life until my conversion. Mass was a huge reason for my conversion. Thank you for showing us Catholics some love!
Mass, and rote liturgy in general, is what brought my family out if catholicism and into evangelicalism. Treating church as "the place we do rituals, just like in the old days... I think" is missing the poiyof church entirely.
I get it, during mass you don't have to think at all. If you're diligent, maybe you'll pray when you're told to. But if you're getting a 5-15 minute homily every week, what are you actually learning? When the same 6 verses are read every week, what are you applying?
Mass is not rote rituals, it is one long prayer- every mass has the Old Testament, a psalm, and a gospel, where the Old Testament and gospel are connected. If you pay attention it is so fruitful, the word of God. Then an explanation of the word (the homily). That is the first part of Mass, the liturgy of the word.
Then we state what we believe (the creed), and pray for the whole world.
After this we move into the core of the faith, the liturgy of the EUCHARIST. The last supper, the sacrifice of the lamb, where we partake in Gods one eternal sacrifice, and as he says in John 6 and the last supper, we consume him, and in so doing- here is the point of the mass, receive him who is giving all of himself to us, and KEY: GIVE OURSELVES COMPLETELY BACK. That is the heart of worship, the point of Sunday and of life, what God does not force in us but came down for- that he may give us himself, and we may give ourselves completely back (communion).
Side note- just before the liturgy of the Eucharist we recite the Lord’s Prayer together.
The liturgy of the word and liturgy of the Eucharist (the two halves of the Mass) are how Christ taught us to celebrate him- read the road to Emmaus
@@SeanWinters Your comment makes me sad, as you appear to have missed the whole point of the Mass.
Glory be to God!
@@SeanWinters the Catholic Church has mass, concerts, youth groups, groups for families, prayer groups, Bible study groups, service groups, and more. The Catholic Church has it all you just have to get more involved and look for the groups you enjoy. My family and I go to Mass on Sunday, Friday is our Marriage ministry at church (we do read the Bible here), Saturdays we have Bible studies with our community, and we also participate and love our Catholic concerts and community events.
Catholic here. The sermon is generally after the reading of the Gospel but we call it a homily. Also, priests don't have to don't have to sing. If the priest can't sing, they are permitted to read those prayers solemnly.
Respectfully, maybe your reaction to the mass says more about you than mass?
The purpose of mass is to worship and glorify God. It's meant to be solemn.
The preaching matters, but isn't the focal point - the Eucharist is.
But if I were similarly unfamiliar with it, I would be distracted by the "choreography" so to speak too lol
Thanks to you both for your charity and open-mindedness towards Catholics / the Catholic Church. God bless!
One thing I will say is that It’s sad to see that so many people get lost in denominations and churches rather than what Jesus wanted for us. We have new believers who join the faith and see this division rather than the unified effort of propelling the kingdom of Heaven here on Earth. It’s almost reminiscent of the Sadducees and Pharisees. I’m relatively new to the faith and have visited Catholic Mass, attend Protestant church actively, and am looking to visit the Orthodox Church all in search of greater intimacy with Christ. Calling it a snooze fest is ignorant, especially when it’s in the name of our Lord Jesus. Happy to hear anyone’s opinion and corrections of my perspective
The Sadducees and Pharisees could've unified and they still would've missed Christ because their hearts were not right. They were blinded in ignorance, sin and hypocrisy, and it's the same with many movements today. Not all who say Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. Christ will tell them that He never knew them, and so the goal is not unity with such people. The goal is to find the Lord and follow Him with all of our hearts, souls, minds and strength. The Bible says believers pass from death to life. Not only do they know God, but God knows them. The First Epistle of John is a great book to read on this topic.
@@gerardoalvarado-torres3540 it’s just his experience, i don’t think he was intending to attack anyone personally. the church has different traditions for a reason, he did acknowledge it was probably just the one he went to, but no church is perfect, so an experience is an experience, doesn’t need to be taken personally.
I love when protestants say that Catholic masses are boring, because going to church isn't about being entertained. 😂 It's about praising God and seeking communion with God. The parish I am part of can get pretty crazy towards the end with our recessional hymns, and we all sing and dance along, but only during ordinary time.
Going to church isn't about being boring either. I cannot imagine being so disrespectful to God as to literally believe "if I act depressed and quiet, maybe God will be happy".
This is such a dumb strawman of protestantism, we aren't entertaining anyone except God. Our worship has something called PASSION. We actually care about our service to God. While you worship, as an angered teenager being forced to tell her mom "ughhhhh i love you, i guess", we shout from the mountain tops "I LOVE YOU!"
Perhaps you're okay treating God with zero passion, as if he's a pagan deity which needs to be satiated by some magic words or else bad luck happens, but as for us, we genuinely poor out our hearts with effort and genuine gratefulness.
I wonder, what makes a person think God wants boring worship? What makes a person think God wants the same prayer repeated over and over again every week? What makes a man believe that God is pleased by treating Him like some italian mafia boss, rather than as our Daddy, our Abba? Would your dad be happy if you had the same script every time you talked with him?
There's just so many ridiculous assumptions you have, but most upsetting is that you are tolerant of treating the meeting of God's people as if it's a funeral. Newsflash, Jesus rose!
I personally think the sermon's are too short. For the music, I don't have ideas for that but it is a challenge for others.
@@SeanWintersI lost braincells reading your comment
@@SeanWinters wtf did I just read
@@rujotheone it's really called an homily, not a sermon, but I don't know why the different name. I never looked into it. Length is usually kept short, because it's customary to fast before mass. Which is also the reason why many parishes have mass at like 5am or 6am, or 7am. The fast traditionally would be 8 hours prior to mass, if I'm not mistaken. It's just another form of worship, by basically saying "no" to an earthly desire that you basically need to survive and saying yes to the holy spirit through discipline.
I personally still follow that tradition, but many people now do an hour prior to mass, which still requires discipline if you wake up hungry or usually have a coffee in the morning as a routine. Or if you tend to have dinner at a certain time if you're going to an evening mass.
The Priest is married to the Church. The focus of the mass is not a sermon. We do have our liturgy, 3 readings from the Bible, but the mass is about the sacrifice Christ made for us all. It’s a celebration ever week of the lamb of God sacrificed for us and participating in the Sacrament he left us at the last supper. Where he mystically enters our body and soul so we can be in full communion with him even as he is seated at the right hand of the Father.
I think is interesting that the Catholic mass in focused on the Bible readings and on the mystical body of Christ that binds all Catholics to his real presence. His criticism is that there wasn’t enough time focused or spent on the priest giving a lecture on his thoughts and his ideas. He was missing a person spending the time to tell everyone what he thinks and taking that time away from the Bible and from Christ.
Disciplining children and having them involved in the mass is very important to Catholics so it is encouraged to have children in the mass. If a child becomes disruptive then a parent will step outside with the child. How well behaved children are in mass has always been something I’ve been proud of as a Catholic. It shows how well the community can influence a child’s behavior. The children behave better because they see all the other children doing the same.
Bro says Mass was a snooze fest. Reasoning being they did the liturgy (reading the scriptures) they did prayers, they did more liturgy they recited the creed… Then doesn’t want a to listen to someone with no wife and kids, guy just threw St. Paul’s writings out the window. Prefers a Christian rock concert…. 🤦🏻♂️
Not sure why people always complain “Christian rock concert” like dang church can be fun 😂
@@rockstar-kp2jy Church is a place for reverence and respect for God. You can worship that way outside of Mass. That rock worship is no substitute to the Sacrificial Mass.
@@rockstar-kp2jyBecause a rock concert isn’t worship, even when it’s in a church building and you call it “church”
@@Ineedtruth1 so god gave people these talents for no reason ? 😂
@@rockstar-kp2jy No, He didn’t give them those talents for no reason, but He also didn’t call every single talent He gives us “worship”.
Bro is trying to give me reaction video material 😂
Just saw your reaction video. It was great!
I would recommend listening to Father Mike Schmitz video called “When Mass is Boring”
The Orthodox and Romans are quietly giggling.
Rolling our eyes at their ignorance 🙄
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Not all Catholics are Roman, that is only One Rite of the Church
You don’t go to church to be entertained, but to worship as God intended. I think it’s rather telling that there seemed to be an expectation of entertainment. Granted, the Mass I go to is very reverent, maybe Zach’s wasn’t. Still, disappointing take here.
Edit: I don’t get why priests taking vows of celibacy seems to be such a hang-up for you guys. Would you say the same about Paul? He said it is better to be single and fully devoted to God. Priests are spiritual fathers, and Paul said he was a father to many children.
Because not all teachers or spiritual fathers should be celibate. Devotion to God doesn't automatically erase sexual desire or the need and want for a family. The apostles were not all celibate, so I don't understand your points.
This right here! I go to the Latin Mass (hoping to check out a Byzantine rite soon) and the Mass is so reverent and really beautiful. I did go to a novus ordo mass too and yes it’s a valid form but the one I attended was not as good as the Latin one. The traditional one has all kinds of people and from all walks of life. Young and old, babies etc. it gets packed! Catholicism is really rational and mystical and I love the history, liturgy and truthfulness. God bless!!
@@janelleg597 I would encourage you to take a look at Catholic Answers and other helpful sources, cause I’m no expert. That being said, forsaking marriage, intimacy, and children is why it’s called a SACRIFICE. Read 1 Corinthians 7 where Paul talks about this. If you can’t control your urges, then get married. But those who choose the vocation of priest are more able to serve than a Protestant pastor with a whole family to tend to. Give and take.
@@carmeister_ Same here! Seems like it’s hard to find a good TLM, but it’s so worth it. Glad you found one, there’s really nothing like it.
Because >mandating< celibacy is not only unwise and unscriptural, but inconsistent as well. The “first pope” had a wife. That’s the only argument needed. If they all voluntarily make vows to singleness and celibacy that’s great and totally fine. But if they officially, canonically, dogmatically, etc. cannot be a priest and be married that’s a problem.
We aren’t automatons, what we do affects how we think. Bowing and crossing ourselves in reverence helps us understand and respect God more.
The Catholic Mass is one of the few places on the planet that is 75% scripture, containing 7 of the 8 forms of prayer and worship (no prostration), Old Testament, Psalms, New Testament, Gospel reading, Book of Revelation, prayer of thanksgiving, forgiveness, and praise. The only human insertion is a short homily by the priest, reflecting on the readings. I wish the priest faced the alter again as in the old days.
I attend an FSSP Parish. The priest faces “east” leading the people. It’s beautiful!
So is the expectation that you study the Word on your own or is their teachings done during the rest of the week?
@@dahliaherrod4301 My Parish has adult theology classes during the week. They’re quite good.
@@Democracyofthedead I love that! That's awesome. My church has several Bible study groups too and they're so helpful. We get to delve more in-depth into the passage our pastor talked about during service.
And thanks to the NO, we have even more OT readings during mass!
I am a Southern Baptist...during College I started attending a Catholic Church. There are 3 things I LOVE about the Catholic church....#1) When you go in (and I like to go in early) and it is peaceful, quiet...except for the folks saying the Rosary out loud (together). Not so much in In the Baptist Sanctuary....kids are running up and down the aisles, folks are greeting friends across the sanctuary ("Hey, Dave...how's the family? or "What did you do on Saturday night...?" etc) #2.) Lots of folks coming forward and greeting you in Baptist Church....which is a bit rough when I am trying to pray, or read my Bible, etc. I like the friendliness, but I like to be quiet before sermon...prepare my heart. Very distracting in Baptist Church. #3) One other thing about the Catholic Church....they are all different. Some depend on who the Priest is...in charge. Kneeling, bowing..(.I like that too).
As a Catholic, I also experienced protestant churches growing up, because of my parents' co-parenting, from Baptist to seven day advantist and episcopal. I stopped going to church altogether as an adult. One day as an adult I decided to go into a nondenominational church. Like you said, so many people came up to talk me and welcome me, which isn't bad, but I didn't go to talk and make friends so I was put off.
I decided to go back into a Catholic church last year, and I think like you said, it was perfect for me. I did end up making friends naturally, but no one came up trying to chat as I walked in or even walking out. I had people bow in my general direction as welcome or greeting as we're leaving, until I went for the 10th time, and a guy came to talk to me and invited me to a dinner that the parish was having.
This is why I pray in my car before service. Gives me a chance to center myself before I go inside the church building. I actually really love that people greet me in the church. I'm on my own a lot so it means a lot to me that folks care enough to check in on me and see how I'm doing. When you're new to a church, it's a massive help
@@dahliaherrod4301 In a HOT TEXAS Summer...especially between the end of July through Labor Day weekend...you have to be a glutton for punishment to want to sit in your vehicle to pray or read your Bible (unless its short as 5 minutes). And BELIEVE me I have tried that one. Even parking under a large Pecan tree for shade isn't much help (and I have done that one too!) Cracking a window doesn't help, because usually a fellow parishioner will stop by your car TO WALK INTO THE CHURCH with you. Believe me...I have tried the above...glad it worked for you. I live in TEXAS...and it is a totally different ballgame here. Even if you are lucky enough to have undivided time to pray & rad in your car...it isn't safe to do that in certain neighborhoods. In Arlington, TX (where I lived in my College days) we had deacons guarding the parking lot, because women were getting purses snatched...and cars were broken into...and that was in the late 1980's)! That was BEFORE church shootings became a thing to worry about too!
@@user-hd5ew9tb8d LOL! Small world! I actually live in Houston and you're right. It is BLAZING hot some days. Sometimes it's 5 minutes. Sometimes it's the 15-minute drive to church. Really depends on how much effort I need to center myself.
I rarely have people coming up to my car though. I guess most people sense I need a minute and leave me alone until I get into the church. Never had to worry about safety. Not on the church property at least. People are generally pretty respectful of churches where I live.
According to this man’s logic a psychologist/psychiatrist could not help someone with mental health issues because they themselves do not experience the same mental health issues of their patient.
Catholics preists definantly don't have to know how to sing. Like this comment if your a church going catholic and you thought this was hilarious😂
That’s is actually part of Catholic seminary.
@@josephposenecker9741definitely some are more blessed with ability than others 😅
God is worshipped either way.
@@PhilipvanKampen-gi6vd I didn’t really think it was hilarious. I thought it was rather disrespectful. If you’re gonna comment on some thing, you should understand what it is you’re commenting on. He obviously just went for the entertainment value and wasn’t interested in what anything actually meant.
@@margerl8583 fax bro, but Protestants don't get the level of reverence we view our churches with
All Churches should read the Nicene creed and participate in the Eucharist
Many refuse the creed because it acknowledges the true church.
“I actually worshiped at church for once in my life, it was a snooze fest”
Lol
@@emperorsheev6309 simply attending mass isn’t worship, you all have taken the entire meaning out of worship when you simply make it attending mass. 🤦🏽♀️
He was bored by all of the scripture. Needs more cowbell
@@loganjackson675 🤣 Definitely needs more cowbell.
I believe the worship of God is not about a personal entertainment, God should be in the centre of the worship, not a band or singers! The catholic mass is amazing, when you know (learn if you don't) what is happening 😮
Sigh 😔 it saddens me that the purpose and beauty of the mass wasn’t perceived here. It will one day I’m sure
He went looking for acceptance and lively worship. Fortunately it wasn’t about him
The shocking reality that it was for the worship of God and not the worship of self
Please talk with a current practicing Catholic before the next mass you go to so you can have a baseline of understanding of what the mass is, and approach it with the right posture/expectations. The mass is ordered to engage all of our senses in worship (ie hearing, speaking/singing, movement (standing sitting kneeling), smell with incense, etc), and is divided into the liturgy of the word first (including an Old Testament, Psalm, New Testament, and gospel readings) and liturgy of the Eucharistic second (following Jesus in John 6:54 "Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day”). And the rest of the prayers during mass are quotes from the Bible. With everything oriented toward Jesus there is only a small time for the priest to share a short human teaching, but that isnt the purpose or central focus of the mass (there are Bible study groups and other things in Catholicism for that). The purpose of the mass is the Eucharist primarily and secondarily to hear god's word in community in the readings and the prayers.
This is ridiculous. There is no excuse for not knowing the gist of what the Mass is(Catholic Sources). It is a sacrifice, not a concert. Catholics are participating in the Supper of the Lamb, with those in heaven, depicted in Revelation.
*gist
@@thatwifeofhis7815 yes, my bad.
I agree that Mass is beautiful, but wasnt Christ a sacrifice once for all time. Why resacrifice His body every week?
@@tuckerchisholm1005 The once for all sacrifice of Jesus is re-presented each Mass. Please watch a video by Brandt Pitre called "The Jewish Roots of the Eucharist". It is really eye opening. I would love your feedback on it.
@@tuckerchisholm1005 this question has been answered many times before on UA-cam and online. Google it and type “Catholic Answers” next to the search you’ll get the answer.
God isn't for entertainment lol. Catholic and Orthodox keep tradition, no rock bands..
He hates Cathlioc mass cus he don’t understand it, you can tell he hates Cathlioc I’ll pray for him, SMH
Man I wish yall had a Catholic as part of the squad. Would be nice to weed out the misconceptions and false assumptions haha.
Amen 🙏🏼
im slowly realizes 100% of non catholics have some sort of misplaced bias
What false assumption? Catholic mass is boring, because y'all treat mass as with a checklist, or a magical seance that makes God less angry.
I know I'm using hyperbolic language, but how do you not see that rote liturgy is not good? How do you not get that not having a sermon is weird? How do you not see that treating mass as "a place where we do a tradition/ritual" isn't okay?
I get it, when you're constantly surrounded by papists, you never question your life decisions, and you like to think that everyone who disagrees with you "just doesn't understand", but we do.
@@SeanWinters because the point of the mass is worship of God not to listen to a man tell us what he thinks God is trying to tell us with the Bible. Mass is about God not man.
@@SeanWinters it’s interesting. You are responding to the statement of false assumptions and then you go makea good amount of false statements. Really appreciate you proving his point and you know what this division among Catholics and Protestants and let’s just say Protestants in general so much division withinbalready… God does not create division - the devil does so let’s not continue to create more division here. We need to love our brother and love our Neighbor. 🙌🙏❤️
He can tell he wanted to bash the Cathlioc church he was holding back
I was raised Catholic so just a few things..No the Catholic priest doesn't have to be able to sing. The raised ceiling is a steeple. The idea behind it is so the church stands out from other buildings but also to draw attention to look up to God. And technically to receive communion you've had to go through the sacrament if making your "First holy Communion", kids study to understand the meaning of it in religious education classes which usually happens between 2 and 4 grade. Its different in different churches. And Technically once you have made your first communion your supposed to go to confession or 'reconcilation" to be absolvd of your sins before receiving communion each week.
The most brutally evangelical critique of Mass that I’ve ever heard. lol. The Mass is actually patterned on the road to Emmaus, where you have part 1, liturgy of the word, aka Christ explaining the doctrines to the two men on the road, and then part 2, liturgy of the Eucharist, where there is the “breaking of the bread” and the disciples eyes were opened to Christ with them. You’ll also find st. Justin martyr explain a matching description of the mass in about 150AD, so boring or not, this is a very ancient way to worship!
is not brutal u fight against big ignorance ..
Man needs to read Justin Martyr’s account of the liturgy.
This video makes you guys look really ignorant and oblivious
“They got the priest singing… kinda… crushin.”
- Zach
Got me for some reason 😂
the more i watch this channel talk about CC the more i realzie the world of protestants( im not even CC) if just full of the " yuck CC" bias... grow up....use logic....drop the pride....the CC is exactly what mankind needs to correct prideful interpretations.... all in bible God was giving His ppl culture and traditions and a formal line of sacred priestts to maintain true interpretations and teachings from God... why would He stop when the world needed it most?
So would you rather friendly Protestants who would even give the CC a shot lie about their opinion?
@@BlessGodStudios nope my point was im glad im seeing more honest bias... are we pretending this channel doesnt have CC bias?
i just notice how unfair the CC church gets treated both in logic and judgement....
id sure love an answer tho.. why would Christ just let the world free for all the scriptures? and not keep the same priest traditions we see in bible from beginning to end?
Oh we totally have our bias. As do you lol. Yet we platform more Catholics and Eastern Orthodox folks than probably any other Protestant creators. But there’s a reason we’re not Catholic or EO. We do our best to no strawman.
The rest of your question is well suited for a debate over a comment section. Nor is it even something I’m excited to debate at all. I rather let Catholics highlight their views (see my convo with Trent horn) and we can see our differences. Which are obvious. From sola scriptura to what role church history plays.
@@BlessGodStudios watched it...heard a lot of 'head nod' uh uhs..good openmind.. but at what point do you drop the illogical 'protestant' nonsense?
all i see is division from that mindset, and an abandonment of what God has ALWAYS given His people... traditions and safeguarding of His Word/ Teachings
again im not even CC yet,will be i think, and i see NO valid arguments for saying the CC is the wrong theology...
i ONLY see peoples ignorance towards the CC ( including my own).. no offense i know that video was years ago...and im not even calling the host out, just the overall mindset world wide in general
people can talk about the pope all they want, has God ever expected any man to not fall short( king david ) did Christ not tell us wolves will invade and to call them out?seems like some people just took the reformation too far and now people in 2024 think God pre destines people to hell etc etc....
love the show🙏
@@BlessGodStudios yea thats wild..i just watched Russ say " protestantism is more universal than catholicism"
i think you mean PANversal...what more proof do i need in bias flawed logic of" i want my version of Christ"
i always got a good, paired with weird feeling on this channel regarding random opinions...now that i udnerstand EO CC and protestant mindsets...its all clear now..YT just allowing people to spew ideologies backed up by" i got the Holy Ghost , not you" card
UNIversal...= one , or ppertaining to one
protestantism is ONE mindset to you russ??? blew my mind you said those words
Catholic here.
Please don’t criticize catholic priests for celibacy. We have a lot to criticize priests for but the vow of celibacy is not one.
Additionally, it sounded like you didn’t take your visit very seriously and didn’t seem to be grateful or have any semblance of awe for our Lord my brother, please see past anti-Catholic nonsense and allow yourself to enjoy the process of Mass.
@@MB-ru8kg why does it have to be anti-catholic for simply not liking mass? why does everyone get to mock protestants (specifically non denom and baptists) for our services (saying they’re rock concerts, overly friendly, heck joe heshmyer said we don’t even worship and because of that it’s becoming a thing for catholics to say that), but relaying to a catholic “you’re mass left me feeling empty and was subpar” is anti-catholic?… it’s tired atp. you all dish out a lot of criticism you can’t take.
@@living_epistlespeople that leave a mass feeling empty are there for themselves
@@SN-cy7kj not necessarily, people leaving a mass feeling empty do so for many reasons, not enough bible focus/ reading, lack of fellowship, it’s overly meticulous, ritualistic/mystical not relational, prayers are not engaging, not understanding the worship, and not being able to partake in communion could be one as well. Heck, if you aren’t used to a particular church tradition and feel lead to fellowship/ honor God in other ways, one might feel empty at mass or any church service.
no different then catholics feeling empty at protestant services (which some have expressed in the comments). does that mean God isn’t present? not necessarily, it’s just not a way people are used to communicate with Him. But I really wish Catholics would just accept that diversity of the body, rather than displaying haughtiness.
@@living_epistles yup you’re spot on and confirmed my comment quite well. If it is fellowship or other self fulfillment you’re looking for, you’ll find those at other churches. Those are not priority and main focus of the mass. It’s first and foremost about God and not to make attendees feel special and included.
@@SN-cy7kj church services are both, no where in scripture do you see people behaving with a superior than thou mentality. Nothing that I have listed is self fulfillment, all are done to glorify God.
The crazy thing is, Protestants could literally still go to their non denomination churches and get their music and sermons and still be Catholic. They could do all of that on Saturday, and come to mass on Sunday!!!
These expressions of faith are not exclusive! Come home 😇
Nice blind take. I recommend going with a Catholic next time. God bless!
The guy who commented that the mass is a "snooze fest" has an internal problem because he doesn't truly understand what the EUCHARIST mass is. I am disheartened by this comment and disrespected. I pray to God that the scales of your eyes be removed. You offended JESUS. This is how the early apostles and church fathers worship Jesus, not some band and blaring music, which does have no reverence, no respect at all. If you just remove the music in a Protestant service, everything is also a "snooze fest" and visually unappealing.
I had the opposite experience. Went to a protestant church recently (2nd time I went to a protestant church in 2 years, been going to an EO one) and the pastor literally took out his phone to take a selfie with the audience. Suffice to say I made a good choice and only ever go to a protestant church for friends or family. I find it empty and mundane regardless of the lights and music
You just went to the wrong one
@JG-id5vi no apostolic succession, then it's a no-go. Check out an Orthodox Church. You will notice the reverence for the holiness of God quickly. It's not about us it's all about Him.
someone sounds hurt
Anglicanism is Protestant but catholic its literally perfect
@@JG-id5vi I have been to others. No; they are just varying degrees of terribleness. There is an emptiness to it all. It’s a great place to start a faith journey. But no one should end theirs in a non-dom church.
Fyi more that 90% of the mass is reading from the bible, so it follows if you think mass is boring you think the word of God is boring.
I actually wouldn’t mind if there’s a church service experience segment in this show. Doesn’t have to be every week. Maybe monthly or bi monthly but it feels like the content setup UA-cam is known for with a sincere Christian twist
So sad he wasn't able to worship God with his heart and soul, without having a rock show and Cirque du Soleil playing in front of him.
It’s not that Protestants go to church to be “entertained” rather it’s the receive the word and its application to our current life. It’s not wrong for them to be turned off by a catholic mass, it’s just different. I believe God intended there to be different denominations because people are different, as long as they preach FROM SCRIPTURE, Jesus, and Proper salvation then just Go to the one that you Vibe with most. We are all brothers and will be in the Same Heaven! ❤
@Emie-f3gcool story
The crazy thing is, Protestants could literally still go to their non denomination churches and get their music and sermons and still be Catholic. They could do all of that on Saturday, and come to mass on Sunday!!!
How does Jesus commanding us to “be one as I and the Father are one” indicate that He intended different denominations? He didn’t, and schism (the inability to be unified with other Christians which is the root cause of denominationalism) is a grave sin.
The reason why it’s a snore fest for Protestants is cuz the main attraction is the Eucharist. The sermon (homily) is the least important part. But protestants are all about how the sermon and music make them feel.
I think that's it in a nutshell. Although, I do also look forward to the homily, because our resident priest is so great at connecting real life to scripture and he has a real passion for preaching, but the main attraction is of course the Eucharist.
Jesus loves all forms of worship. Singing praise music is joyful.
Can we just respect each other and understand that Jesus is for everyone? we are diverse.
@@Bec_love Not when it comes to bashing one another and Catholics are usually the butt of the joke in the Christian community and I have no patience for it anymore.
@@gameologian7365 so if the main attraction is the eucharist, then mass really is only for catholics, because we can’t even partake in the eucharist. no point in looking into it. also makes sense why evangelicals are more inclined to do reach out.
@@gameologian7365 teaching is a gift of the spirit so it’s equally important, service is inclusive to communion and discipleship, how are we discipling people without proper teaching? what about the great commission?
Respect all the Orthodox and Catholics out there I'm loving this review 🙏
4:28 Jesus and St. Paul were “single dudes with no wives and no kids” yet we listen to them. St. Paul even gives us marriage advice.
Has trouble with celibate priests giving advice on how to live... how do you feel about St. Paul's epistles? Same?
Tell me you don't understand worshipping God, without telling me you don't understand worshipping God.
I’m not Roman Catholic but if he has an issue with liturgical worship. Which is biblical and well documented in church history (liturgy of St James or St John Chrysostom). He’s not going to like Heaven lol.
He needs to read Revelation with an open mind and heart. You won’t hear 1 hour plus sermons in Heaven.
Thiese comments…protestantism doesnt mean rock-concert, lights and smokemachienes. Im a protestant but i dont have any of that in my church. We have lithurgy, psalms and sacraments
The Catholic mass is based around the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist. It is not based around the sermon of a certain pastor. Every mass is just as meaningful because we get to partake in the sacrifice of our Lord, it does not depend upon how good/bad/inspiring/entertaining the homily (not talk) is. Nor does it depend upon the pastor. This is not to say that a good homily isn’t desired. A difference in the Catholic mass and Protestant services is that Protestant parishes are often based on and depend upon how good/bad or inspiring their pastor is.
Also, the Catholic mass is not measured by or dependent upon how inspiring and heart wrenching the homily is (although some masses are the most beautiful and reverent thing there is). People do not have to be deeply moved every time they go to mass. Rather, true devotion is going to mass when it isn’t entertaining or “fun”. True devotion is duty. It is not based on the feelings with a certain pastor has induced with a moving sermon. Again, this is not to say that a great homily is not desired. And there is definitely a time and place for inspiring sermons concerning the faith. This is just to point out that if you think that that is what the Catholic mass is about, you have missed the point.
Hi Ruslan, my name is Gonzalo. I am representing the “Traditional Urban Catholic” (Erick Tafoya) in San Diego. Erik is an upcoming Catholic apologetic. I would love to have Erik sit with you and Zach to Explain the Holy Mass on your podcast.
I am a fan of your channel keep up the great work.
A little background on Erik Tafoya. His a local apologetic out of Chula Vista. Currently serving in inland empire,Ex protestant , converted in prison to catholicism and just recently got the support from senior apologetic Tim Staples from Catholic Answers. 
Please let me know if you would consider having him on your podcast.
In chapters 65-67 of Justin Martyr's first apology (written around 110ad), he describes early Christian worship. The apostolic churches hold to that form of worship much more than the low l church services you might be used to.
The crazy thing is I've been to many exciting American style Protestant services and I honestly don't "feel fed" and much rather the solemnity of mass and participation in the worship of the sacrifice. It's just profoundly different . The Catholic Church has seperate events that are for speeches/preaching/band music, but it's not really considered "worship" but a form of praise.
It's fascinating to see into the mind of a modern protestant, who is so of the world that he thinks worship is about YOU instead of about God. Sounds like it was a modern, novus ordo type "mass" he attended. I shudder to imagine someone of such a mind at a low Tridentine Mass.
What does dude think liturgy means? There aren't multiple liturgies at a Roman Mass. If you want to try out a Liturgical branch of Christianity that will be more familiar, try an Anglican church (not episcopal, try an ACNA affiliated parish).
He doesn't know what liturgy means lmao
I'm Catholic going to English speaking Church. We do Mass because Jesus told us to. All of those details he describes in the Mass are all for a purpose. I believe it is all important.
We go to Mass not really to be entertained but to worship God.
I personally think it is beautiful!
Ive heard the same type of feeling from people that only eat fast food and love going to those place, and when they go to a higher end restaurant that requires more sophisticated taste. They think is a snooze fest and dumb and pretentious and blah blah. Idk if that may make sense to some 🤷🏽♂️
I’m very Pentecostal and my best friend is very catholic. I do my best to take it seriously when I visit. I just worship my Jesus just like at my church.
I love my Lutheran church. It's WELS, and it's beautiful. We don't do the child care, either. We want the little ones to come to Jesus and be welcome.
I went to American Orthodox Easter this year, this Orthodox church community, liturgy, passion, and atmosphere was mind blowing. Never experienced anything like it. Bigger than Christmas celebration. Wow.
Fyi more that 90% of the mass is reading from the bible, so it follows if you think mass is boring you think the word of God is boring. Just saying.
They obviously don't understand the Mass. You don't go to mass for self entertainment. You go to Mass to worship God and to receive Christ in the Eucharist, the source and summit of Christian life.
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Yeah, Catholicism is ancient and their masses are kinda boring. I was so offput by things being done correctly and not being entertaining. Also, buy our merch.
Catholic Mass was too deep for dude. Only saw the surface. Takes time to understand the underlying meaning and significance of it all. I'm still absorbing it after being confirmed. I expect to continue learning and discovering until my final days.
As a Catholic I understand where you're coming from. I love the Mass and receiving my Lord in the Eucharist, but for an uninitiated newcomer, it can be hard to understand the significance of every ritual. I highly recommend reading a guide on the Catholic Mass (Catholic Answers has one called "Why Go To Mass?"). I was shocked at just how much it resembles the gatherings of early Christians and how rich in meaning every little detail is.
If I may, offer a few quick responses. Priests don’t have to sing. Priests are married to the Church in imitation of Christ as He is married to his bride, the Church. Mass isn’t about a sermon, it’s about Christ himself in Eucharist. The “sermon” homily is a reflection on the scriptures, not a Bible study. Study and prayer over the scriptures are different exercises of the soul and intellect- both good, but with different intentions. We are at Mass to worship as He asks us to worship, not as we desire. God wants us to worship as a united family- hence no child watch.
Again, the SBC did NOT reject the Nicene Creed.
Hmmmm i thought it did. Can you provide evidence it accepted it please…
@@srich7503 they moved it to a committee to then vote on it for next year. Coming into this past convention, we rejected ANY modifications of our confession from the floor. We thought it would be too easy to change it like that.
@@christopherwilliams7025 👍🏻 thanks. I pray it goes through.🙏
The lack of respect is crazy lol you’re talking about a tru church ceremony like it’s a concert full of pride and dismissive humor. lol pride is the queen of all evil my friend. There are so many thing you don’t it understand, be humble
@@kaleabmiitku1934 be humble? not a catholic telling someone to be humble
@@kaleabmiitku1934 ironically you all claim to be THE ONE true church ⛪️… interesting 🤔
@@living_epistlesEstablished by our Lord my friend
@@SN-cy7kj yes the church in general wouldn’t exists if it weren’t for God’s plan to redeem mankind unto Himself through Christ.
I was baptized protestant but i follow catholic values mostly because of both of my grandmothers, i think both religiona together are stronger than fighting over whos right, its like theyre both missing Jesus's teachings, thats why i put my ear out to any words of our Lord, they all have value because Jesus is still their savior on both sides.
Catholics go to mass to 1. hear the Word of God and 2. Receive the Holy Eucharist. We aren't there to be entertained. We are there to worship the Holy Trinity. I thought it was a snooze fest when I was ten years old and didn't really understand what was going on either, but now after reading the Bible I can see how the Catholic mass is right worship.
Mass is beautiful. I'm not RC, but the tradition and symbolism in the mass is something Protestants have no time for which is a shame. Worship is supposed to mirror a lot of John's vision in Revelation.
Worship is not primarily for your benefit it's for Gods. So sorry you were bored by worshipping God.
The Lutheran understanding of Christian worship is that it is primarily for our benefit, not God's. God serves us through His means of grace -- the word read, sung, and preached, confession and absolution, and the sacrament of holy communion, when God invites us to His table to feed us with the body and blood of Christ. We respond with our thanksgiving and praise, but the primary direction is from God to us. The liturgy is almost identical to what you would find in a typical RC mass, but with some important differences in theology.
Loving the comment section, also would like to say that once you realize what’s actually going on during mass, it becomes much less of a “ snooze fest “ and more reverence, praising, and worshipping our Lord and I can’t call that boring. When I was a kid forced to go to mass I was bored out my mind, now that I’m older and understand what’s going on and what’s being said and why, I Love mass. To be fair to my Protestant brothers and sisters I do enjoy attending some Protestant churches aswell with my wife, I get why mass would seem boring to someone who literally goes to a party every Sunday ( which I’m not hating on, I love the joyfulness and worship music on stage ) , I treat Protestant churches more as a Bible study for me, but I go to mass for my own personal reasons and Ofcourse to receive the Eucharist, which I believe is our Lord Jesus Christ. I love you all and I do pray for unity between all Trinitarian true believing Christians 🙏❤️
I get the "boring" perspective. Myself had it until I got to 15 and stopped attending. BUT, I eventually got back years after, humbled-up and decided to take my Catholic faith seriously. Ended up learning so much, it all suddenly made sense. All of it. You have no idea how deep the theology is. It's 2000 years of wisdom.
If you want a top-shelf mass, check out an FSSP traditional High Mass.
Not a snooze fest. You guys just forgot what piety & worship means. ;)
No show, no guitars. *Mass is for God: not for our entertainment.*
Something we tend to forget in these restless times.
I hope you guys check it out one day.
I go to church to worship, not to be entertained and have babysitters. It’s not about me it’s about God. It seems like unless he has the emotional high that Protestant churches engineer, the moving sermon and rock band, he feels like he didn’t worship. He was bored and it was dry 😢 To be fair the catholic mass is not what it used to be pre Vatican II. ☦️
‘Boring’. Church isn’t meant to entertain you but an act of coming together to worship God and partake of the sacraments. I travel for work and appreciate the Catholic Churches which are always open. I am able to quietly attend mass and pray and reflect on what Christ has done in my life. It’s difficult finding an open Protestant church during the week, and then determining if they have sound doctrine or teach heresy. At least I know where Roman Catholics stand on certain positions. I’ve had beautiful experiences at the basilica in Madrid and Notre Dame while on work travel, I don’t know their liturgy but know that it’s scripturally based.
I'm not Catholic but Christ was celibate with "no life" in the way you mean it. So was Paul. And pretty sure the kids weren't put in childcare while the first Christians listened to either of them. Just a thought.
I can see what you’re saying about a person with no family trying to relay wisdom on you but wasn’t Jesus also a without a wife and kids?