How to Build a Gate on a Wood Fence | Gate Bracing Pt.2
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2021
- PART 2:
This is how WE build the bracing for a wood fence gate. We used pressure treated lumber for bracing but use multiple 2x4's to fight the natural warping that can happen with southern yellow pine.
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Overkill ? Yes, but that is the quality build you expect from a professional company! Great video
People who judge the way he builds his fences/gates are the ones that have not even done one them selfs , I’m a fence installer and yeah theres ways i wouldn’t do the way he does them but keep watching and you might just learn a few things here and there
I have. And this guy is not doing it right. And neither are u probably
@@asseater1895 look at my videos of me installing i know what I’m doing lol
You Da Man. This design gate will last a long time. Thanks for the detailed video
this channel needs more views in the fence youtube space. This guy is literally all you need to know to build topnotch typical fences, that LAST - biggest thing - gates are the #1 call back in america fellas
Another great job Shawn, never stop
Enjoying your great vids! Very informative , thanks for the good tips!!
Thank you Mr. Fence! I removed the old rusted cable and turnbuckle from my gate / door. And installed 2x4 at the opposite angle. bottom hinge side to top latch side. It works great!
You do magic..thanks for the valuable teaching. I will buy the straight away for appreciation.
WOW, You are amazing... Accurate and straight to the point.
Beautiful work. Great expert work.
It's nice when you know what you are doing.
Need to learn this. It's much to know.
Thanks. 😊
That is an awesome build!!!!
Nice work 👍
Thanks for making it so simple and easy man a lot of guys I’ve watched make it soo difficult smh 🤦🏽♂️.
Hello Sir. I enjoy your videos and currently trying to build a double gate. Do you build those the same way as you do the single? And are those regular hinges I can buy at the big box store. Thank you.
I wish you were, my husband is putting a gate something like yours, but it has a fence like the farmers makes for his cows! I hope to GOD that he can do as well as you have! Wonderful work you do. Thank you for some of you talent! He's not a carpenter? !!
Just wanted to say thanks for the video, valuable information.
Are you able to show exactly how you did that rip cut? I like how that looked apposed to cutting a 2inch picket and sticking it in there.
Do you have a video on a double gate? Like for a car/truck to get through.
Watch the video 2x
What size nails are you using in your air nailer to nail on the fence pickets to the frame?
Thanks for posting. For the two 4x4s on the hinge side, did you sink and dry cement them both in or are they only sistered above grade?
Both are dry packed 30” deep
Thank you sir ! Great lesson in geometry and physics. Top notch information. Is that a roofing gun ?
God bless you I’ve found you in my time of need. Thx
how would you build a double gate frame when the length is longer than the height.
Thanks this is excellent video. Will this design be good for double wide 12'
Yes but do not go over 45 degrees on your brace. We do not sell 12’ wide wood double drive gates
You used a spacer to set your picket offset on the latch side. How was the gap between the end of your runners and the latch post determined when you initially put your runners up (before you started building the gate in this video)?
Simple He used a thing called a Measuring tape. Measured the distance between each post knowing his material setting the posts for the total distance for spans with wood and knowing There’s actually a simple formula to remembering how to frame your rough opening. All you need to do is add 2” to the width if it's a door you also add 2 ½” to the height. In his case the gate wasn't completed so he added 1 ½” inches for the running 2x4. Laymen terms or tan (theta) = (opposite) / (adjacent) = 1 / 2 Therefore, theta = inverse tangent of 1/2, which is roughly 26.5651 degrees. Notice that at this angle, the door gap distance is smaller than when the door was closed (that is, the angle is zero). You take your pick. lol
I should also mention a 2x4 is actually 1.5x 3.5 it's not actually 2x4 inches.
Where do you get the latch and hinges you used?
Is that a 3” gap between the slam post and the 2x4?
What nails do you recommend when putting on slats
I may have missed this information in the video, but could you please tell me the measurement of the gap you left between the 2x4 rails for the gate and the post on the handle side?
Depends on the latch you use. If you use a hatchet latch you will need a 1” gap between rail and gate. Overlap your post picket 1/2” past your post and notch the picket so your latch will attach to the post. This will keep your gap a 1/2” while giving the 1” you need for your latch.
@@jessesmith2428 Thank you! I built the gate according to the directions in the video and it's working great! Love it!!!
Can you do a video on building this exact gate in a sloped area? Is everything the same? Should the rails be level or follow the angle of the slope?
I think you still want to build a square gate, your posts should be level, you want to stay consistent with posts. You will just attach the pickets with the slope, the actual fence rails and brace should remain square with the posts. Ive thought about this, you may not end up with a perfect rail line consistent with fence stringers, since the fence stringers follow the slope. You will however have a better lasting fence then if you tried to match the rails to the slope
Most gates that you see that are built with sloping rails are metal, not wood. Unless its a rolling gate, with has the bottom supported with wheels, not the same as a swinging gate, If its a swinging wooden gate, i am pretty sure you want the rails to be square with posts
The hinge side should be the low side, if you want the rails to follow the slope. Otherwise if you go from the high side, you are more likely to increase sag.
also if you go hinges on high side then you also risk hitting ground when you try to open it. Again maybe with using two posts, you can get away with it. I would rather build a square gate, it may not look as nice on the frame side, but the smooth side will look exactly the same, and the gate will be of better structure,
Excellent work...I appreciate you making this video for everyone.
I'd like to know more about how did the picket ripping trick.
He overlapped them, put a couple nails in to hold it, then he cut out and trashed the overlap, leaving him with two ends, which he applied as one. It works alright. I usually prefab the gates and set the posts accordingly to avoid any rips or custom sized pickets.
If your gate is on a bit of a slope, do you make sure the hinges are level or do you align them with the slope of the land/2x4 rails?
Very important they are straight up and down don’t follow the slope of the rails
Level , make sure the hinges match the gap
How would you do a shadow box gate?
It looks like there is not a 2x4 on the hinge side of the gate. Is that correct and if so why not? It seems like it would need one. I don’t want to screw up my gate.
How about if the smooth side of fence is to outside? You wont want to leave the hinges outside for anybody with a drill, takes out the gate.
Do you have a video?
Regards.
You cut the gates rails short by the thickness of a 2x4 (for the vertical brace), but didn't you have to allow for the thickness of the latch?
The latch only needs 1”
@@jessesmith2428 I built my gate just like you did in the video. Everything turned out fine, but after wood dried out, gate sagged only about 1/4", which I'm happy with. I learned a lot from your videos...Thanks!
Any idea what that red tool he used to level the height of the pickets together?? And is it available in the UK or at least impirt to the UK??
I have no idea, but I would think that you could easily make yourself a jig for that from lumber.
Are the two short diagonal 2x4 needed? Would it work to just put one long 2x4 diagonal and then one more on top to make the tee?
Those short inside ones receive the triple nails from the other side of the pickets or outside of the gate for strength
@@mrfenceacademy Ahhh... Thanks.
Good build ,however why not lay out your pickets and measure plus the latch width and set the post exact for u have no slither picket u have to know that width before u set the post just thinking ahead is always good
What type of nailer n nails ya using to attach your dog ear planks w sir??
The reason why is holding is because they are using the postt from the building..it wont hold on a regular fence post
@Mr Fence - are you still building gates like this with King+?
How big of a gate can you build with no sag this way? I know the bigger and especially wider the gate is, it becomes so heavy I don’t know how you would keep it from sagging, especially if it is much wider than it is tall.
A wheel
What kind of wood is that? You don’t use pressure treated for your 4x4’s?
What about when the gate swings inward ?
The way you have the gate built with the cross grain 2x4 running vertically down the latch side the max latch will not work … are you ripping that down to a 2x2 ? .. other wise the vertical 2x4 will stick out 2 inches
Will not work
is it possible to make the gate heavier than it should, and pull on the fence post, making it lean?
set a better post
thats one heavy azz gate door
That's got to be the best built gate I ever seen, I want to make one big enough to drive my truck through, 10 foot probably, so im thinking 2-5ft sections? Would you do it the same way for that purpose?
Yes
@@mrfenceacademy hey thanks for replying back to me, I have watched a couple of your videos now, n subbed, im probably 20 years older than you, but man you could be a great teacher at a trades school or something, anyway, I just wanted to ask you one more question, i plan on the 2 5 ft gates, what should be the best distance between each post? To make sure I get the hinges in right spots? Unless you are from southern Ohio, if so I'd pay you to come and do it, lol. Either way thanks for your videos, I guess a old dog is never too old to learn something new. Thanks.
We use Redwood or pressure treated 2x4 rails in California
Yes, something you may not know about me is I grew up in California and started my fencing career there at the young age of 8. All we built growing up was redwood fences.
Can you show another video on a double picket rip?
Im trying to use string to mark the tops of my uneven fence post. Tried a laser level, that didn't work. Any tips
The string is ok but it takes longer to get the picket level with it. If you don't have his tool, you can build your own with 2x4s.
Where do i find that latch?
We build our gate frames out of cedar. No need for all the bracing and a lot less weight. No worries about warping with cedar frame. We never use pine frames on our gates
Well if you did have to use pine here is an option for you
I agree Andrew . All of our gates are framed with cedar . I have never had one call back because the gate doesn’t work . This new pine is horrible , every pine gate we see has warped especially at the bottom . But Shawn and cannon do build some very nice pine gates
Wood quality has changed so much
Even w cedar
Just go overboard w gates. Happy them happy me
What kind of nails you use?
you should tell folks that saw horses are your friend
What is that thing youre using to keep your pickets level at the top?
It’s called the straight away www.mrfencetools.com
How would this work on a gate needing to swing in?
T hinges and some extra cuts plus taller post
@@mrfenceacademy why a taller post?
@@matthewkingsman5800 because of the top bolt on the t hinge
@@mrfenceacademy oh, I was thinking you meant like significantly taller... that makes since.
@@mrfenceacademy did my first one of this style today. 👌 not bad.
Why not cut the middle piece and keep the diagonal whole?
What time of the video are you talking about?
@@ez-g3090 just the framing... Why is the middle horizontal piece a full piece and the diagonal brace cut
.. Shouldn't the diagonal brace be a full piece to transfer the weight to the lower hinge
@@johnrogers1249 probably. I think he used too much material.
I think you could make a gate that is as strong that is half the weight. the more weight the more problems. i feel there has has to be a new design that is basically as strong but much lighter.
Roofing nails are for roofing
Are you using pressure treated pine for gate?
Yes it’s PT…. Who would use regular studs for a fence.
Every gate on a wood fence we install gets a steel hinge post and steel 1x2 gate frame. It eliminates all call backs and is a selling point. A plus BBB member and 28 yr fence contractor.
Here ya go Bro. Lol
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I'll stick with the grandpaw way.
I love the 6 guys standing around watching 🤣🤣🤣
This is a training there were probably 35 guys standing around that paid to be there.
@@mrfenceacademy okay got it but man we’re not building rocket ships here someone with common sense should be capable of installing a fence lol.
thatsba $800 dollar gate door 😵💫
Bit overkill
Doesn't the extra weight contribute to sagging
Not at all due to the design of the brace we have videos of this gate with 1300 pounds on it still no sag
It'll definitely sag
I can show you how to built a fence better than that
Show us then, I will go first
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Then why the hell are you watching this video, you troll?
big fan of the videos however that gate is a d.i.y. hack seriously you can do better .
Never trust a contractor that wears gloves
So wrong in so many ways
Show us what’s wrong, I’ll wait
Mr Obsdamian. First, i do not see you on you tube training millions of potential viewers, for free. I don't see your list of issues with the gate. Please list the "wrongs" to educate us, as Shawn does so incredibly well. Then, show us the wrongs corrected, so we can understand. A great teacher paints pictures, in my colors, because we see things thru different lens...
Lmao no, 🤨 no....
2" lags again on a gate.... 😆 mounted on a 4x4....🤣
Horrible rip cut!😅🤣😂
I'm done watching!!
Every cut and screw you made one video.