2022 CHEVY 2500HD 12,000 MILE REVIEW // Gas or Diesel // THE PERFECT TOW VEHICLE
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
- Stan and Rhonda from Over The Hill Adventures discuss whether or not they made the right decision in buying a 2022 Chevy 2500HD Turbo Diesel. Stan and Rhonda share how much they spent on diesel fuel going across the country in the Spring of '22, at a time when fuel prices were astronomical. They decide to take a quick break from their adventures to compare the actual diesel fuel cost of their trip against the cost of what regular gas would have cost them. Is it truly cheaper to have a gas truck or is it cheaper to have diesel truck? Come with Stan and Rhonda as they crunch numbers, find options for cheaper fuel and discuss the pro's and con's of their new truck purchase.
This is a 12,000 mile review of their truck. Do they feel they made the right decision and is it truly the perfect tow vehicle?
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I cant tell you how much we appreciate each and every video you post! So helpful! I cant wait for the next adventure! Thank you! 😁
Hi Babs, thank you so much for your kind words and support. We appreciate you being part of our OTHA family and joining us on hour adventures. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Love you guys. Great review. Very helpful and inspiring. Looking forward to the next one. 😀
Lorie,
We love you too! We appreciate hearing from you each week and are always encouraged by your kind words. Thanks for being a part of our adventure and allowing us to be part of yours! God Bless!
~ Rhonda and Stan
You all did great. Thank you for sharing important information. Blessings
Thank you Betty Jo! We hope by being transparent with information like the cost of gas is helping others decide whether or not to travel. We have no regrets 🤲
Blessings, Rhonda and Stan
Great review! Thank you!
Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda
Scott & Eileen with the exact same truck and trailer here. Still loving your videos. I concur everything you said in your review. I get about the same mileage in my 2021 (10-13 mpg). Still beats the 7mpg I got with my 6.2L Chevy gasser and has a much bigger fuel tank meaning I don't have to stop nearly as much on road trips. (I can be a bit heavy on the pedal when I drive ;). The ease of towing combined with all the towing features and cameras make this a dream truck to pull a camper with. Keep up the great videos. Cheers!
Scott & Eileen, we certainly appreciate you being a part of the OTHA family. Our 2016 Silverado got an average of 10 mpg towing. Having said that, we will never go back. We love our truck!! There is nothing like worry free traveling with our 2500HD. Thank you for your kind words. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Great review guys. We love our diesel truck. We have a 2020 GMC2500hd with the 10 speed transmission. Really agree with the stability, engine brake etc. Been averaging right at 11 miles per gallon with it pulling our travel trailer. Thanks for sharing this and have a great week. Kent and Tami
Kent and Tami,
Thank you for your contribution to our channel by sharing what you tow your Imagine with and what the average mpg is. Your average is a little better than ours right now, but sounds like the more we break in the engine, the better gas mileage we will get. That's the hope anyway 🤞 Looks like you are enjoying some camping trips this summer already! We miss being on the road and are getting antsy to get back out there. Safe travels!
~ Rhonda and Stan
I just bought a 23 2500 duramax. I love it. It’s a custom. Couldn’t find any Lt or Ltz in a 300 mile radius on my location in PA. Happy with the custom and glad you guys are happy with yours. Thanks.
The truck is a beast! Congratulations you will have the same problem I have. I can’t stop putting my foot in it. Truck is fast!!
Hello, Guys. Really appreciate your videos. I have to agree with you on the stability of a diesel TV. My wife and I just returned from a week long adventure to the Oregon Coast. Traveled up the US 101 from Central California.
I was towing an Imagine 2800BH with a 2018 Ford F150 5.0 for about 3 years. Got maybe 10-10.5 mpg. Upgraded to a 2016 Ram 2500 6.7 Cummins and towing was night and day. Just recently upgraded the camper to a Reflection 303RLS. Towed to Oregon Coast about 1300 miles round trip and averaged 12.5 mpg. I can live with that. Have to agree with "Jake Brake" on diesels. Coming down 7% grades with very little applied brakes and maintained 53-57 mph. Looking forward to see more of your adventures.
Bob, thank you for your comment. Congratulations on 303RLS one of our favorite. There is a 2022 Reflection 303RLS for sale down the street. Sooooooo tempting but we are going to stay content in our station of life. On the straights we actually 15mpg towing but once we hit some wind and hills that goes out the window with the average of 10.3. The say the truck needs to break in so we will see. Thanks for joining us. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Great info, thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions. I'm on the fence Gas vs Diesel but sure appreciate the feedback.
Hi Ben, if you can afford it definitely go with the diesel LTZ. Thank you for joining us. Stan and Rhonda
My first time watching your channel. Great information. My wife and I are planning to travel in a couple of years. I was thinking diesel, my wife thinks gas . This video helped us out alot. Thankyou
Diesel is more expensive. However, towing diesel is worry free towing. You set it and forget it. Thank you for joining us we are glad we could help. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
That is a great truck there's so many things you can do to get better fuel mileage but I would wait until your warranty is up they are so funny about things like that well thanks for the videos keep trucking I look forward to seeing the next one
Eric, thank you!! Well I have seven years until my warranty is up. Towing is the gas mileage killer. However it is worth every cent to make memories and be active. Thank you for you kind words. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Great review. I chose the 2500hd gasser and love it. The big reason I chose the gas was the 10,000 price increase for the diesel. Diesel fuel in our area has been over a dollar a gallon higher than gas not counting DEF ( Your numbers comparing gas and diesel prices were skewed in favor of diesel). You also lose a lot of carrying capacity due to the weight of the diesel. Diesel engines cost more to maintain ie oil changes and filters. My diesel friends tell me that the diesel will last twice as long as the gas. None of them ever keep a truck past 200k and the accessories around the engine typically start failing long before the gas or Diesel engine does. Trade in value will be higher on the diesel but again, you pay 10,000 up front. I pull a 12000 Mesa Ridge fifth wheel and the gasser pulls it with ease. It gets about 8mpg which is less mileage than your diesel gets but your diesel is pulling a smaller and much lighter bumper pull trailer. Unless you are going to be pulling much more than you or I pull, a diesel is not an economical option but more a “I want a Diesel.” You do have an awesome truck and I hope you don’t take this as me knocking it. Just saying the diesel will never recoup what it cost you to operate it. Thanks for the review.
Hello Mel, thank you for your great comment. In the long run you are absolutely correct on all your points. After traveling across the country in both a gasser and a diesel, the diesel has given me personally a sense of confidence and security. My favorite part is the exhaust brake that helps slow down the truck going down step grades and not burning up my trailer brakes. To be honest I wanted a gasser for the exact same reason you mentioned in the comment. However, I have to disagree about the longevity of the truck. My first diesel was 98’ Dodge Ram Cummins with a 24 valve 6 cylinder. I am no longer the owner for the that truck it’s still on the road with over 300,000 miles on it. Unfortunately, our law enforcement Chevy Tahoe patrol cars that get the best service are done by 100,000 miles. Meanwhile the Ford’s Expedition break down way before that. I hope this will be be my last truck. Thank you again for your enlightening comment. It truly is just a personal choice. Safe travels and much blessings to you, Stan and Rhonda
Patrol cars may be done at 100,000 miles but keep in mind the engine hours on those vehicles is probably why .
@@ochoa123451 very true because we kept them running all the time. Great comment thank you! Stan
Thanks for your info. We are in the classic debate now and have a 12k fifth wheel so have been looking carefully about MPG reports on the Silverado gas. Yours seems the most credible. Not sure what terrain you are running to get the 8mpg. Going to ask that we talk a bit more on this. My e-mail boatsj@live.com if you would not mind sharing and THANKS to our hosts that have been sharing on the diesel!
@@bosun234 if it’s any use to you, I have a 22 2500 gasser (Chevy). I get about 16-17 mpg highway at 75-80 mph (can get more at 65). About 14 around town. 7.5-8 mpg towing my 10k toy hauler in mountainous terrain.
I came from an old dodge Cummins that would get 14-15 mpg towing my toy hauler, so that kinda sucks, but if you want a new truck, the new diesels definitely aren’t like the old ones. They’re incredible, but if you don’t absolutely need one to do what you do, they are pay to play workhorses, not efficient solutions to the same challenge (like the old ones), and they’re definitely scary to keep into their old age because of the insane repair costs.
Great video thanks for sharing. I have a 2011 f250 gas and a 27 foot fifth wheel and I’m averaging about 10.5 miles per gallon. At this point in time I don’t do a lot of long trips but in September I’m going from Green Bay Wisconsin to Yellowstone and I’m excited to see how well it will do safe travels thanks from Wisconsin
Hi Robert, that is a great time to go! We went the same time last year. We got a little snow at the end but it was so beautiful. Be prepared to do a lot of driving inside the park. Yellowstone is huge!! Bikes or ebikes are a great way to escape the crowds like Rhonda and I did and really enjoy the real Yellowstone. I know you have been watching our videos. Our three part Yellowstone videos were during September 2021. Safe travels!! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Check ahead for what areas are closed from the flooding this year. The south part of the park was reopened but many roads in the northern part were washed away. Safe travels!
I really enjoyed the review/info. I just bought a 2022 F250 7.3 Gas. I calculated cost, both initial cost of the Diesel engine($8,000) and higher fuel, DEF and oil changes and the gas made more sense for me. I also pulled my 29 ft Freedom Express with a 1/2 ton and it did ok. but I am excited to have more power/torque and LOTS more stability in wind and while being passed by big rigs. I enjoy watching you guys and some day maybe we will cross paths. Be safe, God bless you!!
Great truck with the monster 7.3!! What is your gas mileage when towing? You can't beat the stability of a 3/4 ton. I have a hard time keeping my speed in check. Our truck doesn't feel the trailer in any kind of weather. We too hope to see you down the road. Thank you for joining us on our adventures. Safe travels!! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures This weekend will be my 1sttime towing our Trailer--2021 Coachmen259. So far hwy mpg with no trailer is about 17.5-18. town driving(small town)-14mpg. I am interested to see what it does with the trailer on!!
@@pipslife7874 did you calculate your towing mpg on your trip?
@@alexs3187 We have only pulled the rv on one trip so far. We are leaving in 3 weeks for a 2 week vacation in Colorado and will know much more info. The trip we took was about 75 miles each way. I pulled at about 62 mph and averaged 11 going(a bit more downhill) and 10.3 coming home.
@@OverTheHillAdventures our only trip so far, about 75 miles each way, gave me 11mpg going and 10.3 coming back. The rout was a bit more downhill going!! We leave for Colorado in about 3 weeks for 2 week stay and will have much more info then. Hope to see you guys somewhere!!
Hey Stan not sure if you remember my previous post on one of your other videos about your 1/2 ton setup. We have a similar setup and had a trip planned from Jersey to Maine this summer and I was weary about my 1500 towing so far. Well we just got back and the 1500 towed flawlessly 1500 miles round trip. I was impressed with the towing and surprised by the gas mileage I was getting. I do see the stability advantage a 3/4 ton provides but for now we are good with the 1500. Thanks for the videos. They are very informative and entertaining.
Hi Dave, yes sir I remember. I’m glad you had a great time!! Our 1500 had no problem towing as we discussed before. Looks like you had a successful adventure. On our road back east we endured some incredible weather so I’m glad we had the bigger truck. The gas mileage was about the same. Where is your next adventure? We are heading to California pretty soon. Safe travels. Thank you for the update so exciting!! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures We are headed to Cape May NJ this week to setup for the month. Safe travels.
@@davefederici2618 safe travels!!
Thank you for the review! And thank you for buying Chevy…my dad retired from GM, so you are assisting in his retirement funds. We are also considering a new truck purchase this summer. And considering diesel.
You want be sorry we love our truck!
Thanks for sharing your experience (checking off a lot of boxes 👍🏼) of pulling a 25RL 30ft. -7500lbs travel trailer, and with a 3/4 ton versus a 1/2 ton, and comparing diesel versus gas. First, I think the diesel provides that extra power and braking that one would likely never be upset with and towing a lot, a diesel is a great choice. For us, we pull our 31’ -7500 lbs. (empty) Toy Hauler a few times per year since purchasing it in February 2020 (got a great deal on it) and using a 1/2 ton until June 2020 where we upgraded to the 2500HD as well, with the 6.6L gas engine as the difference. As you described, the stability is so secure/better and the payload (mine is 3200 lbs), is near double of my old 1/2 ton which provides more flexibility. So you know, the gas engine with their tried&true 6L90 6 spd. transmission has been fantastic for us (no issues, runs quiet and buttery smooth). Finishing, our fuel mileage pulling is near 8.2 mpg (US) and 15-17.5 unloaded Hwy. (driving respectfully). Best regards to you both. Robert from Alberta 🇨🇦
Robert, thank you so much for your input. Having had a Dodge Ram Diesel then the 1500 and now our new 2500 HD truck. I would never go back. We made the decision to go diesel and towing our 2500RL we have worry free towing. Set it and forget stress free towing. We also feel if we ever want to go with a larger trailer we have the truck for it. Thank you for watching our video. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Just stumbled upon this video and it’s a good review. I just hit 12,000 miles on my 2022 Silverado 2500 with the gas engine this past week. I did have a 2020 with the Duramax so I can give a perspective from both sides.
You’re dead on with the fuel mileage thing lol. I was a little disappointed when I first got my diesel in that it really didn’t get that much better mileage than my precious 1500 with the 5.3. Mine too got in the 10s (10.4-10.7) pulling my 8.5’x24’ enclosed car trailer that weighs around 7500 pounds. By comparison my 2022 gasser gets 8.5-8.6. So about 2 less which depending on fuel cost can be more or less expensive. Here today where I live regular is $3.17 and diesel is $4.99 so there’s that.
Good to hear that yours has been trouble free. Mine was not but regardless the diesel is impressive for sure. The biggest difference in my opinion on towing with both is the diesel you can just set it and forget it and the gas you really can’t. But I’m ok with not using cruise in hilly areas and I really like my 6.6 gasser. These trucks are impressive for sure and are definitely rock solid towing.
Matthew, that is some great information. The other plus on the 6.6 gasser is your payload is a lot higher then our diesel. I appreciate your input. Thank you for your kind words. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
I have the identical truck only with the gas 6.6 and I love it and right now I am averaging 17 mpg on the highway not towing but we are currently searching for a new RV now. The only other difference is I got heated seats but no leather so I may add a after market leather package. I went with the 6" chrome side steps and rubber mat in the back. Great video and thank you for sharing your journey.
Oh to add to that mine did come with the tow package so I have the upgraded alternator and hill decent assistance ( engine brake) along with the trailer brakes
Hi Chris, you can’t CI wrong with your truck. I wanted the gas 6.6 because of the extra cost of a diesel. It was the only truck on the lot and made a great deal. We love the heated seats! We did not want the leather seats because we are boat owners too. When it’s hit Rhonda doesn’t like sticking to the seats and neither do I. I did not know the the gasser came with the down hill assist. We love the our exhaust brake and the incredible power this truck has. Make sure to check out our trailer video unless your going with a fifth wheel. Our favorite fifth wheel is the Grand Design Reflection 303RLS or the Solitude 2930RLS. Just a couple you might really like. Thank you for watching our adventures. Happy hunting, Stan and Rhonda
Don't pull a load then if you love it now.
Hi Stan. Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts on your diesel truck. I agree with you. I made the mistake of trading in my diesel dually tow vehicle on a gasser tow vehicle. While I had no issues with the gasser for a daily driver, I regretted my decision when it came to towing my fifth wheel. Here in Colorado the “hills” can be a bit of a challenge for a gasser towing an 15k fifth wheel. It took a couple of long distance trips and approximately 8 months for me to “suggest” to my wife time to go back to a diesel. I am now back in a F350 diesel and couldn’t be happier. The added horsepower, torque and the heavier chassis frame made me quickly conclude diesel is the only way to go for me. Thanks again, Stan for your sharing your thoughts and experiences. Take care and God Bless. All the best, Ken
Hi Ken, this is my second diesel. I had a 98 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 24 valve. Straight pipe the station heard me coming miles away. That truck was great and had great gas mileage. 23mpg towing my boat. Went to gasser 1/2 ton in 2016 Silverado brand new the one in the video. I loved that truck the mileage was creeping up and out of warranty. However it towed great!! I could not be happier with the new truck. What I am hearing from a lot of comments as it breaks in we'll get better mileage. Truthfully the mileage really doesn't matter in the long run as long as we are finding are new adventure. Right?? Thank you for sharing your experience and affirming what we all know. The bigger the truck, the better, safer, and less stressful traveling. Be safe my friend. Let us know when your out this way. God bless, Stan and Rhonda
I went with the Chevy gasser, which according to the specs, will tow 16.5k. I pull 10-11k in the Utah mountains, and I think that probably about all I’d want to do regularly. Terrain matters a lot with how comfortable the truck will be towing that weight.
I think you made a good call with the 15k trailer. The 6.7 seems like it’s a good motor, and in the mountains, I’m sure it’s worth the extra expense.
We just bought this exact 2022 LT Z71, but a gasser. And WE LOVE IT TOO! Stole your oedro rails. Wish we could show a pic. We likewise traded in our 2018 Silverado half ton. I feel like we are copying. But I don’t think we intended too. Lol. Got a steal on trade in. Love your channel. We are similar age. But can’t travel as much yet. We have a smaller Apex, that this truck can just sling around 😅
Keith, That is AWESOME!! Get rid of your stock mats. Get some Lasfit perfect fit mats. Lol. We love when folks use our ideas. Hope to see you down the road. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Enjoy your video, I am mostly a Chevy guy and having good luck with them being dependable . I like Dodges also a son of mine has two and I drove them enough times pulling heavy loads.
We used to have a 98’ Dodge Ram Cummins Diesel 24 valve. Best gas mileage ever. We were a little disappointed in the fuel mileage of our new diesel. Stan
Initially we started towing with our Ram 1500, but the more traveling we did we found it struggled at certain times. In 2019 we upgraded to a Ram 2500 with the Cummins, and I would never go back. We tow a 25 foot travel trailer BTW. The diesel tows like there is no trailer attached. I agree with the engine brake you mentioned. I have noticed when going down a steep hill you can tell if the people in front of you are driving a gasser because they are always on the brakes. We on the other hand hardly, if ever, touch the brakes and just cruise down the hill at a comfortable speed. Great channel, love the videos. LEOSA :-)
David, thank you for your comment. What is your mpg on the 2500? I used to have a Dodge Cummins long ago when diesel prices were less then gas prices. Loved that truck with the straight pipe. Thank you for your service. Hope you are retired or getting close. Thank you for joining us on our adventures. It is definitely not an easy task to open up our lives to the world with our backgrounds. However, this is one way we can continue to serve and love like minded people of this beautiful country. Blessing, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures 10 to 13 depending on the terrain and wind. I have been out 12 years.
Poor drivers dont know how to drive, that's not on the truck.
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Hi Rick, The seat cover we bought has the lumbar support and the heated seats even radiate through them. I (Rhonda) have to have the lumbar support so not having it on our first trip with the truck was extremely uncomfortable. This has made all the difference for me especially on our long trips. I'll share our Amazon Affiliate Link with you incase you would like to see if it would work for you. We are Amazon Affiliates and may receive a percentage from Amazon, but there is no extra cost involved for you.
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Thanks Rhonda. Terri and I hope to meet up with you and Stan at the Campground sometime.
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@@rickago make sure you guys sign up for the Grand Design Rally in Quartzsite. It will be in February but sign ups are in October. It sells out in just a couple of days. We had a great time last year. The only boondocking rally. Stan and Rhonda
I towed with this same truck and recently went to 3500 SRW because our travel trailer is really heavy. As far as your milage, unfortunately, your really cool looking tires are hurting you big time. I saw a huge drop from our 2020 2500 that had 18" wheels and Michelin tires to our 2021 that had 20" wheels and Goodyear tires, I am talking 4 mpg less. Tires can make or break your milage. You guys are living the dream, good luck and safe travels.
Heath, that is great information. We appreciate your comment. Stan and Rhonda
Thank you for this video. I am in the market for new truck and plan to upgrade to a 2500. I’ve been worried about Chevy engine issues but your lack of mechanical issues on your cross country trip eased some of my misgivings.
William, thank you for your comment. This is my first Chevrolet diesel. Prior to this diesel I had a Dodge Cummins Diesel. When I worked for the Sheriff’s department I ordered a Ford F450 Diesel for our search and rescue team to tow our snowcat. Having driven all of them, Chevy has been my favorite for me. You will have to make your own decisions. When it came to four wheel drive patrol cars in mountain terrain for over 27 years, Chevy has out lasted and out performed all of them. I hope this helps with your decision. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
I will also say that when it comes to GM iron block gas V8’s; it really doesn’t get more reliable. I have owned many both Chevy and GMC HD gas trucks and never had any engine issues. The only thing I can say is that my new 6.6 V8 gas could benefit from a 10 spd trans.
@@turbotransam1980 I have to agree with you.
Great video. We are in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and prices are Not dropping yet. $5.99 for diesel.
Good news!! Diesel has dropped below $5.00 in Arizona. Safe travels! Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Just passed a truck stop near us in North Texas and diesel is $4.69/gallon, still $0.30+ higher than Premium. 😕🥺
Great video, I’m in between right now. Pulling a 30 ft flagstaff w a Nissan Titan but want to upgrade to a 3/4 ton. Thanks for info.
Ray, It's our hope by being transparent with information like the cost of gas and mpg its helping others like yourself make big future decisions so you can continue to travel as economically as possible. There is nothing better than being out there on the road and seeing this beautiful country. Thanks for watching and for sharing. Keep us posted on your adventures!
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The larger tires probably cost you 1-2 mpg. I have the same truck. Great video, thanks.
It is really hard to say. The stock LTZ come with 20 inch rims with 34.1 inch tires.
Awesome video and very informative. Quick question not towing unloaded and on the highway with those almost 35” tires what mpg are you getting?
Hello William, city driving about 15mpg. Hwy driving closer to 19mpg. They say I will get better gas mileage when the diesel motor breaks in. I am using a lot less DEF. With almost 20,000 miles, the gas mileage seems to be getting better. Stan
Hi Guys, thanks for your great review on your truck. My wife and I just recently bought a new one very similar to yours. I really like the upgrades that you have done. Our truck came stock with 275/65R20 tires which are about 34”tall and almost 11” wide. We haven’t been on any significant trips yet to check fuel mileage. But I am curious to know if you were able to compare the fuel mileage with your stock tires versus your new ones. Also, did you recalibrate your speedometer to account for the larger tire size? If not, your fuel mileage may be slightly better than calculated due the speed difference caused by the larger tires.
Hi Jake, I did not recalibrate the speedometer. Very good point. The difference was very minimal. Thank you for your comment we appreciate your input. Stan and Rhonda
Another great video, very helpful as usual! Quick question, can you tell me what type back rack you have in the bed of the truck? I've used the ones that require removing front wheels which is a pain, and the over the tailgate pads but the older I get the harder it is to lift those suckers up and over the sides (especially the higher sides on my GMC 2500!) Looks like yours keeps both wheels on and is out of the way near the cab. Thanks!
Hi Ed, if you go to the description of the video and scroll down and look at a few of our favorite sporting goods. You will find a link for the bike rack. Let me know you found it. Stan
Good looking truck!
Thank you!
I’ve altered my travel plans I planned for September, but I’m still going. I still work full time and have a good income so I’m going to enjoy. Will cost a little more, so be it. I have a 1500, gas Silverado and pull a 16’ teardrop and my mpg goes down to about 13. Pulling into the mountains in September so I expect that will drop a little. Can you please share the seat cover you chose. Always love y’all’s videos. Safe travels.
Janice, Good for you! Go enjoy this beautiful country! It definitely cost us a lot to take that two month trip, but we have no regrets, only amazing memories 😁 We appreciate you sharing about what you tow, what you tow with and especially your mpg. The average mpg might drop a little going up into the mountains, but you can always coast down 😜 Keep in touch on how your trip goes! Safe travels! I'll put the link below for the car seat cover. It has made a night and day difference for me (Rhonda) especially on long trips 👍
~ Rhonda and Stan
CAR SEAT COVER with Lumbar Support: amzn.to/3JI6A9h (item says 1 piece, but is actually a 3 piece set; headrest cover, back seat cover with attached lumbar and the bottom seat cover). You don't have to buy a pair. The single one is like $39.99
Nice review! One thing I wanted to ask is since you swapped tires to what appear to larger versions, how did you 'correct' your speedometer ? If you did not correct it, you are logging miles at a lower rate which, if unaccounted for, would affect your calculated mpg and your cost. I assume you could have used a GPS device to keep track of actual trip miles between fill-ups as well.... Thanks again for all of your videos, they have really inspired my wife & I to get out on the road. We just purchased a Grand Design Momentum 28G.
Hi Terry, I’m not sure! The tires that came on the 20 inch rims are the same size as my tires. We used trip wizard and the mileage came out the pretty close. Maybe that’s why I’m getting horrible gas mileage. Most guys towing with my same truck are getting better fuel mileage. I’m going to have to look into this. I’m still getting 10 mpg while towing. They keep telling me it needs to break in. Well I’m at 30,000 miles. Fuel mileage still sucks! Lol I still love my truck! Thank you for sharing I appreciate it and joining us. Welcome to the Grand Design Family. We are snooping a little might go a little bigger. This floor plan we have is hard to beat. Stan and Rhonda
We currently own a 2018 Chevy Silverado 3500 LTZ Z71 and just hauled our 37 ft 5th wheel 8000 miles through the US and Canada. It pulled like a dream! It currently has 21,000 miles on it. We hope to have it for quite awhile. We love our truck too! We have NO regrets going with a diesel! The only drawback for us is where the DEF goes in ours. Way more convenient in the newer ones.
Hello Kim, we love our truck! We are currently in Olympic National Park 🏞. We drove up the California coast, the Oregon coast. and the Washington coast. Our next stop is the North Cascade National. The truck is a beast! I’m more worried about the trailer through all the skinny mountain roads. Thank you for watching. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures So fun! We did the West Coast starting from British Columbia (minus the trailer) a few years back. We didn't go as far as California though. Some day! Safe travels!
Hey guys, great review on the truck. I just got mine 2 weeks ago, 2500hd Diesel. I’m new to diesel, question for you. Do you try to find the cheapest diesel around or is there a quality station brand you look for? Does it really matter what diesel you put in? Thanks for all you great info.
Justin, congratulations!! I make sure to buy the cheapest diesel I can find from a reputable company. The worse thing you can have is water in your diesel. The new diesels can run Biodiesel. Get yourself a TSD card from Open Road. The link is in the description. Please let them know Over The Hill Adventures referred you. That will save you some money on diesel. Thanks for watching, Stan and Rhonda
You made the right choice one day I'm gonna get 1 too but the prices are too much
Hi Dan, I agree with you. So in Arizona when you trade in your vehicle at the dealer they subtract the trade in amount from your total amount so you pay less sales tax. Plus, right now the dealer is giving you more for your trade in than you can sell
as a private party. You will fall over if you knew what they gave me for my 2016. So folks are getting more for their old trucks than what they paid for them. I bought my 2016 Silverado brand knew so I didn’t make out like some. I could not afford a truck like we have with out the tax break and the crazy trade in values. With everyone pushing electric the price on the trucks will go down. KYD did a show on the Ford Lightning and shot a hole in it for using it as tow vehicle. The price of those trucks are ridiculous!! Thanks for being their and watching our videos. We appreciate you, Stan and Rhonda
Nice video! I’m looking at 2018 version of this truck. What’s your gpm with out pulling nothing??
Hi Denis, I get 20 to 22 mpg on the highway. 15 to 16 mpg in the city. Stan
Hi Stan & Rhonda!!! We have an F250 gasser... We love the truck. It gets around 9 while towing our 5000 pound trailer. I just don't think the high cost of maintenance for a diesel is something that we really want to deal with.
Hi Gary, thank you for your comment!! It is all about preferences. In all honesty I was looking for a gasser. This one came available so we jumped on it. I am happy to be back in a diesel more than I thought. I told Rhonda this diesel motor will out live us both. Lol. Definitely think in the long run this will be our last truck. Absolutely love it. Safe travels, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures Enjoy your New truck and I wish you the very best with it. My wife and I enjoy watching what you guys are up to, so we look forward to when you post new videos. Safe travels to you and god bless you both. Gary & Gail
Thank you for the video. You may have made up mind. I currently bought a 32FT travel trailer weighing in a 6500 dry. I have a 2020 silverado 1500. Talking about trading it in for a 2500 just can't decide to go with the 6.6 gas or the duramax with the Allison Trans. Do do like the engine break with the longevity diesels have. It's about 10 grand more just for the duramax.
Again, thanks for the great video. 👍
I had the 2016 Silverado 1500. I am so happy with our choice. Ye sit was a little more. However, car free towing. The Duramax with the 10 speed Allison is an absolute beast worth ever penny. Stan
Stan and Rhonda, it was great to hear your thoughts on the 2500HD and performance. Hopefully, fuel prices will come down again, though I am not holding my breath. Shelley and I love our 2500RL even with the issues we are having with the trailer. Thank you for sharing. Peace and Safe Travels -Craig
Craig, Definitely don't hold your breath 😜And we won't be holding ours either! Although the gas prices have crept down a little here in Arizona, we are still not sure what our Fall trip looks like. We may just see what's in our own backyard so to speak. We are right there with you and still loving our 2500RL and getting antsy to get back on the road with it! We hope you are enjoying your summer! Have any trips planned? Safe travels to you and Shelley! 🤗
~ Rhonda and Stan
Little late but everything i've read was to use the ground DEF at the filling stations as it is fresher. I don't know how true it is but you may want to check it out
That is good to know! I did not think DEF goes bad. Stan
Thanks for the great truck review! I agree with you and we have no regrets about our purchase. As for the disappointing mileage, don't forget that you put larger tires on your truck. Did you have 18" or 20" rims on the truck originally? Your mpg is probably higher because of the larger diameter tires. Plus your engine is still breaking in; your mileage will get better with time. Don't forget to factor the DPF regeneration cycles; those use fuel too and impact your overall mpg. As I mentioned earlier this year, I have the exact same truck as y'all except no Z71 package and Silver Ice Metallic color. I just crossed 14,000 miles with it and at 75 mph, I'm averaging 18-20 mpg; 12.5 mpg towing. We'll be taking a long vacation out west in September (had to cancel our Michigan UP trip because of a Jury Duty Summons). Try rolling miles using mile markers on the highway and compare with your odometer. The odometer miles are probably closer to 0.95 (or lower) miles per highway mile. Then recalculate you mpg. Had that happen with an F150 XLT Lariat I once had. Put larger tires on the truck and the mpg went down until I found the adjustment factor (it was 0.92 odometer miles per highway mile). Safe travels and thanks for the great videos. Hope to meet y'all on the road some day!
Bob and Dottie
P.S. Check out this link to the Duramax Forum and look at the series of comments at the bottom of the thread. This should help you "correct" your mileage problem: www.duramaxforum.com/threads/gas-mpg-11-4-is-that-right.1022752/
Hey Bob, thanks for all the great knowledge. We actually calculated our mileage manually by pen and paper. The mileage was backed up with our trip wizard app plus we logged each stop. The calculation came pretty close to what the odometer gave us and gas mileage. We were not to far off. The $3,200 for fuel was a good hard number and it was what we spent using a designated card for fuel only. The service manager told us it would get better as the truck gets broken in. When I bought the truck it came with 17'' rims which was a little bizarre. I did not mined the stock alloy rims. As you probably know the Ford Raptor comes with mostly 17" rims. The smaller rims give you a smother ride. Its funny how all these 2500HD trucks come with different size rims, tires ect. I have 34" tires some guys have 20 inch rims and say the their truck came with 34" tires. It is definitely confusing. However, fact is fact 6,860 miles cost 3,200 in fuel. Traveling on the straights with no wind I can get 15mpg. Once I hit the hills and wind the mpg goes bye bye.. It would be fun to meet down the road. Thanks for the great discussion. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures - You made me go out and look! 😂😂 I have LT275/65R20 Goodyears on mine. Those came stock. They have a nominal diameter of 34.1 inches. Properly inflated, they are close to 35 inch diameter. They are on 20" rims. I would send a picture of the rims but I can't get it posted. They are really nice rims.
@@OverTheHillAdventures - Bit of an old thread but we just returned from our trip west mentioned a couple of months ago. We put 3440 miles on our truck and, overall, our experience was similar to yours but with lots of hills and mountains. Though your trailer is a bit longer, they are similar in weight and frontal area (a significant factor in towing, especially in winds). Our beginning mileage was about 16,000 miles, so the truck is well broken in. We stayed at 65 mph where practical (and legal) with cruise control and tow/haul mode set. Also used the engine brake going down steep grades (it worked beautifully). Overall, we got 13.4 mpg towing (calculated and trip odometer). We had some pretty good pulls over mountain passes and some occasional stiff headwinds. We also drove around doing some sightseeing and exploring without the trailer. A couple things I had done prior to the trip was a system program update at 15,000 miles and an oil and filter change (oil & fuel) right before we left. The system program update cured a known glitch in the DIC. One benefit of the update was an improvement in fuel mileage (1 to 1.5 mpg highway). Something you might should have checked.
Safe travels y'all!
Bob and Dottie
@@robertcolpitts4534 how did you get the system update?
@@robertcolpitts4534 what is the glitch in the DIC. This is good stuff Bob! Thank you
I just bought the same truck you have ithout even realizing you had it. I was disappointed in the fact it did not have the power passenger seat too. I’m loving it so far. In the video where you picked up the truck you have a phone mount showing. What phone mount it that? How do you like it?
Lance, that is great! The truck is a beast!! We will never go back. Rhonda loves her seat cover and works out great. The truck will probably out live us..lol So we bought the cell phone holder from Ross a discount store. The cell phone holder lasted for a long time. While coming back from our cross country trip it stop working. It turned out to be a piece of junk. However, it served its purpose for most of the trip. It is tough to find a good holder. We already have our GoPro in the windshield. We will let you know what we come up with. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
What size tire do you go with? Looks great. Can you please share?
So basically I went with the Nito Ridge Grappler LT305/70/17 which is a 34X12.5X17 went with the stock rims
I bought the chevrolet floor liners. I got them for free from chevrolet accessories. I had a bunch of points. I have a 22 2500hd custom with the duramax
Hi Daniel, we are almost at 50,000 miles. No complaints! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Do You guys use a dash cam for your road video segments and if so, which one?
Hi David, we use the GoPro Hero 9 Black. If you go to our description of the video and scroll down, you will see all the cameras we use with Amazon links to get you there quickly. Hope this helps. Thank you for joining us on our adventures. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Love my 2016 Denali 2500 HD 6.6 Diesel, but worry about the CP4
If it hasn’t blown yet you should be ok. The new ones don’t have it.
Thanks for the review. My wife and I are contemplating gas or diesel in a truck. My wife’s biggest concern is the diesel smell which tends to cause her migraines. I wonder how your experience was in the cab during the ride with potential diesel smells and the vibrations that seem to be more prevalent with a diesel motor?
Hello, thank you for joining us! I can tell you I have had an old 98 Cummins Diesel, ordered a 2019 F450 Diesel for my Search and Rescue team when I worked for the Sheriff’s Department. I used to drive and tow with our 2016 Chevrolet 1500. This Chevrolet 2022 2500HD Turbo Diesel is the best truck I have ever owned or drove. It is quiet and incredibly comfortable. There is no diesel fumes Inside or outside the truck. I was going to buy a gasser and after driving this truck it totally change my mind. I suggest you test drive one and see for yourself. You will be surprised as I was. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures thanks for the reply we all but decided to buy a diesel and then my wife got concerned about the smells.
The newer diesel engines are super quiet and smooth. You will be shocked when you test drive one.
Great video all, I love it!! I do have a question for you all, total newbie question so please don't laugh. We bought a 2022 2500 gasser and love it. And we bought a 2023 Grand Design Imagine 2800BH from General RV in Jacksonville, FL. We live in Atlanta.....So we picked up our new camper and drove straight to Byron, GA (the only place we could find close to us in Atlanta, everyone is booked up). Anyhow loved how it towed....BUT.....one thing that caught me a little off guard was the push I get from tractor trailers going by. I had the cruise set on 65 and you know the tractor trailers are typically running 75+. We do have a new load leveling sway control hitch too. Is that "push" that needed a little steering wheel correction, normal? Do you all feel that in your truck as well? I know, probably a stupid question but it did catch me by surprise a bit. Thanks for all your videos, I love them all. Oh and we were getting 10mpg going across flat I-10 West to I-75 North. When we got into GA it fell to 8.5mpg due to all the hills. It was 95' out so I think it did amazing. Transmission temp never went above 187'.
The “push” is normal. When we are fully loaded I push the semi truck..lol. Our truck is a little heavier. You might want to tighten your weight distribution hitch. It will help with the sway. The only bad question is the one you don’t ask. So ask away here to help. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures Thank you so much for your reply. I really appreciate it!!! Keep on camping!
I love the diesel power it’s definitely the way to go it’s just not affordable for some folks I been trucking for over 20 years the only problem with diesel power is it’s expensive to maintain otherwise it’s a perfect tow vehicle
Hello Scotty, thank you for joining us. Yes I agree! After towing our RV 25,000 miles across the country you can’t beat the piece of mind. Set and forget it. I started doing the maintenance my self. Thanks again for sharing. Stan and Rhonda
hi Stan and Rhonda
i am new to your channel and i just subscribed. i really enjoyed the video. i dont really tow anything. we own a cabin and all of our toys are stored there. i wanted to ask you about the ride quality of the truck when you were unloaded? is it a stiff and uncomfortable ride? thanks vic
Hello Victor, I think the ride is great! We have the Z71 package so it is way more stiff then the regular. Rhonda drove with me in a Ford diesel and she couldn’t wait to get out of the truck. It was a rough ride. The Dodge has a great ride too. However, there payload really lacks.
We towed our trailer across the country and is really a nice ride. I think you will be surprised when you drive one. Hope this helps. Are you planning to buy one soon? Please let us know. Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures hey, thanks for the quick response. I actually have the small 1500 diesel Silverado 2021 LTZ. It rides Like a dream and gets crazy good mpg. 24 city and 30 highway. I don’t really need a 3/4 ton, but I just love the look! Also diesel prices are going a little crazy. This 25 day supply talk is getting a little worrisome. I hear the diesels feel more solid because of the weight of tje motor . WDYT?
@@victorperrotta4007 not worried about the diesel shortage here in Arizona. East cost might be a little problematic. I had a 1500 big difference. 2500 is totally solid. However I can honestly say I miss my 1500. Two different animals.
@@OverTheHillAdventures thanks for the information. God Bless you and the family.
That’s crazy on the mpg’s, I have a 14 3/4 ton Silverado with the lml diesel engine and Allison 1000 6 spd pulling a toy hauler that weighed a total of 10k lbs in the Pacific Northwest and held 12.5 mpgs. Hopefully your mileage gets better, oh yeah I keep it at 65 mph so that might help 🤷♂️.
I hope so! At least I need stop putting my foot in it. It is very fast! Thanks for joining us I appreciate your comment. Stan
I heard that where the Semi Trucks fill up there is a D.E.F. pump and it is much cheaper then buying by the box , Did you take advantage of this option ?
Absolutely!! Almost half of what you pay in the box.
My 2019 Silverado with a 5.3 gets between 9&10 miles per gallon, pulls my 6000 lb rock wood Problem 😊
Hi John, before we got our diesel we pulled our 7,200lbs Grand Design with our 2016 Silverado 1500 5.3 with no problems. We got 11&13 miles to the gallon. We climbed every mountain. Coming down some of those mountains was a little scary. Plus making sure I was never over weight and going to the Cat Scales. I can tell you your pretty close to your payload of your truck. Anything over my payload of my truck was unsafe. Thank you for joining us. Stan and Rhonda❤️
My two diesel vehicles bought new got better and better fuel mileage over the first 20,000-30,000 miles as they got broken in. You will likely see better results in another 10-12,000 miles.
Michael, that is great news!! That is something to look forward to. I appreciate your comment. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
I got rid of my 07 ram 3500 when used prices were good. It was deleted so mpg went up as well as power. That is a decision you will have to make on your own. However, use hot shot secret everyday diesel additive, as well as the stiction eliminator. Performance will improve, mpg will go up due to less dpf registration cycles. It will also keep fuel pump and injectors protected. You may also want to add a inline fuel filter delete to use cat fuel filter and Baldwin water separator that will increase filtration at lower cost to factory filters.
If your going to be traveling alot getting better filtration is a must. You don't want to get bad fuel and kill an injector.
David, thank you for all that great information. I could not believe what they gave for a trade in on my 2016 Silverado. Thanks again for the great tips and watching our video. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
What kind of phone mount is that on your dash? I enjoyed the video. Thank you.
Hi Al, I think we got it at Ross. It did not work out very well. Only worked for one season. The windshield mounts seem to work the best. Everything else has a non smooth surface. Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures Thank you for the response. You made a comment about police vehicles on one of your videos. Did you operate police vehicles?
Hi Al, Yes sir! Was in law enforcement for 27 years. During that time had an opportunity to operate many different vehicles.
@@OverTheHillAdventures Same here. 20 years USMC. 20 years with the Sheriff's Office in Yuma AZ. Take care, be safe!
@@alwhitney5665 thank you for your service! Glad you were able to double dip. That’s a blessing!
To break going down hill. Select a lower gear. I have a 7 speed in my 2500HD it awesome going down hill.
Ours has an exhaust brake. 10 speed Allison transmission for the win!
Id go diesel. Grab that low end torque and pullin mileage.
Yes sir! We get 10mpg towing. We love our truck! Thank you for joining us! Stan and Rhonda🙏🏼❤️
Have you had any issues with the truck? I am currently in the market for a Diesel truck and the duramax is on the top of my list.
Anthony, this truck is a beast! We have gone across the country and back. No issues at all. So happy with our choice. Thanks for reaching out, Stan and Rhonda
I bought a 2022 2500hd gas, towed my 10k camper twice, and it was crap. I traded it for a 2022 2500hd diesel after 30 days, and it's been awesome. The combo of the 6.6 Duramax and the allison 10 speed you can't beat it. Don't ever buy the gas in a 2500 if you want it for towing.
Hi Mark, thank you for your comment. We have 30,000 miles on ours and it has been awesome!! Stan and Rhonda
Do you think the larger tires reduced your fuel mileage?
Bret, absolutely! No way I was leaving those little tires on it. It just look wrong. Lol. Thank you for your comment. Stan and Rhonda
Also it’s not for everybody but if you got the DPF deleted it would double your fuel MPG
Thank you for your comment. We appreciate your insight. We took the seven year bumper to bumper. After that it might be something to think about. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Basically it comes down to how much money a person is willing to put into a truck and what one can afford and what’s one is towing. My two sons one bought a new Dodge the other a new Chevy both diesel.Both are good trucks . My son that has the Dodge he traded the last time with 10,000 miles left on the warranty. He says that’s the best way so you won’t be out of your own money with repair bills. I myself don’t want to put that much money into a truck so I always look for very good low mileage older trucks in very good shape. For example 10 years ago I bought a very nice 1999 Chevy 2500 Excab 4x4 6.0 gas 365 hp 375 lbs toque 110,000 miles one owner for $7,600. today it has 213,000 miles and I am still driving it. 3 years ago I bought a 2004 Chevy 3500 crewcab 4x4 8.1 gas 330hp 450 lbs toque 237,000 miles for $7,000 today it has 262,000 still running strong it pulls my 24ft gooseneck . 3 months ago I bought a one owner 2001 Chevy 2500HD Excab 4x4 Duramax LB7 90,800 miles garage kept K&N cold air breather and tow tuner about 320hp and 650 lbs toque, for $14,000. I just sold a 1994 Chevy 1500 Excab 4x4 5.7 gas I bought in 1999 with 74,000 miles it had 194,000 miles on it when I sold it. My 2001 Chevy Duramax is a very sharp old truck absolutely no rust for it’s been garage kept not even driven in the winter rain or snow we have here in Kentucky original paint that looks almost new black in color. I am always having people come up to me at gas stations or whatever I go looking at my truck asking about it being 21 years old and looks like a new truck inside and out. I am perfectly happy with my older truck.
Donald. You are absolutely correct. It is good to hear the longevity of your truck. When I was a patrol deputy, all I can say was Chevy could go all day all the way. Unfortunately the Fords never held up except for their Crown Victoria. Thank you for your comment we appreciate it. Stan and Rhonda
Man I have a 16 dirty max with emissions but I do have a cold air intake and fass system I get 18 pulling my toy hauler loaded up that makes me not want to buy a new one if it gets that bad mpg thanks for video first time watcher .
I use to have a 98 Dodge Ram with the old 24valve Cummins. That baby got 23mpg pulling my boat trailer. Those were the good old days.
The return on diesel only helps if you are keeping it forever. Like 400K miles. Truck cost more fuel cost more. Repairs cost more. I have a 2013 6.6 gas. 52,000 miles. It has been paid for 6 years. I tow an Airstream with my HD2500....9 mph
However it is so easy towing with a diesel. Set it and forget it. The RPM stays at 1,500 up hill. Best truck I have ever owned.
Looking at 2024 GMC 2500. 6.6 L gas now has 10 sp Allison. Similar size trailer and diesel sounds like overkill to me especially 10k price difference (that pays for a lot of gas) no Def and not worrying about pulling into a gas station line without diesel pump. Gotta love the diesel torque though and would go with diesel if had a bigger rig.
Hello Rich, the most I love about the diesel is the exhaust brake. Now that they have the 10 speed in the gasser it is a game changer. For us and our rig now you are correct it is a lot of truck. It is a beast. However, if we choose to up grade to a bigger rig we have the truck for it. We are close to the 20,000 miles mark, I truly thought the gas mileage would be better than 13mpg towing. I get 23 mpg highway without towing I definitely like that. Either way you can’t go wrong with the GMC and the payload. Safe travel thanks for joining us. Stan and Rhonda
Thanks for the tip on the fuel card, looks like a good deal! I just bought a GMC 2500HD Duramax and love it too. Was towing our 22' RV with an F150, which did a great job pulling it, but like you said, engine braking and stability are a huge improvement. I also need to tow more that 12K in my dump trailer which was only in the F150's wheel house on paper.
Hello Randy, you are welcome! 🙌. the Open Road card has saved us a lot of money. If you sign up tell them Over The Hill Adventures referred you. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
would you still pick the diesel now that it is 6 bucks a gallon ?
Yes sir, I am disappointed in the fuel mileage. However, this truck is a beast and hopefully be the last truck I will ever buy. When pulling a trailer I don’t feel the trailer with a diesel. It maintains the rpm at 1,600 up and down steep grades. Having both, when pulling a trailer the diesel is the way to go. If you’re not pulling a trailer it is not worth the expense to have a diesel. Thanks for your comment and watching our video. Stan and Rhonda
Damn, 10.3 MPG wow
Very disappointed with the gas mileage on the new diesel trucks. My old Dodge Ram diesel Cummins got great gas mileage.
You mentioned 8k lbs loaded, you ever hit the scales to see? The 2500rl gvwr is 7495 though I think you all upgraded its suspension.
Yes sir! When we went to the Cat Scale, our trailer weighed in at 7,240!bs fully loaded without full water. I would add another 400lbs for full water. I really believe the gvwr sticker is never accurate. To many variables. Yes, we installed the MORryde suspension and wet bolts. What difference. Thanks for watching! Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures you all should do a video on what your carrying that isn’t personal
What size tires did you say you changed to? 275/75 R17? Just a guess.
Stephan, they are 305/70R17 basically 34x12.5x17
@@OverTheHillAdventures thanks for the information. Appreciate it.
Way better to have far more than you need than barely enough.....especially on long trips
Owned 2020, 2021 and now 2023 2500 HD....went back to half ton on 20 and 21 and regretted it....3/4 ton is so much more truck
Since I went gas and don't need diesel was able to go up a couple trims and get some more luxuries....love my new truck
So true!! Love our truck.
I prefer my gas 6.6. Come the apocalypse, I'll find gas to siphon. If you're not towing a house every week, you don't need 900± ft/lbs. My baby pulled my rig 80+ mph up as high as Breckenridge, no issues passing. Nada. Buy what you need for what you need to do. Save$ and do more things.
Now that I have had my diesel almost 40,000 miles I would not trade it for the world. Not happy with the fuel mileage however a lot better mileage than the gasser. Huge plus is the exhaust brake. You are right about the power way too much for our trailer currently. The biggest plus is you set it and forget it. The 10 speed Alison stays at a consistent 1,600 rpm. Safe travels!
Gas 100%. Diesel was best when they were able to get deleted and straight piped and would gain power, use less fuel, and gain mpg.
Did you just leave your air bags on your old truck?
The 6.6 gas works great. Pulls hard and will surprise you. Will pull your trailer up passes at 80mph + easy. On the downside of the pass, it will grade shift and slow you down well enough they you will have to tap the gas to speed back up because you are loosing too much speed. After owning the 6.6 gas, I made the right choice. The emissions on the diesels killed the deal for me. Lot of ford fan boys out there, but cubic inch for cubic inch, the 6.6 gas has more power, torque and better mileage. It’s 43 ci bigger and has 29 more hp and only 11 lb-ft more torque.
Ira, thank you for your comment. It is all a matter of choice. We had our gasser with the same down shifting ability. The exhaust brake sells this truck for me. It is to bad they had to put the emissions on the diesel trucks. I am very disappointed at the fuel mileage in our truck. I really believed it would be significantly better. I am hoping it gets better once it breaks in. I also hope this will be our last truck. The truck fast and an absolute beast. Thank you for your insight and comment. Stan and Rhonda
Ford is a BEAST!!!
I went with the gasser also. I found the gas and 6 speed transmission a great towing combo. One thing they failed to mention is the extra 10k they spent on the diesel engine, plus the extra maintenance.
@@onestrongarm you are absolutely correct with 10k up charge for the diesel. I hope that will work out better for us on the longevity of the truck and fuel mileage. Also, with our 10 speed Allison it is nice to set and forget it as we pull our trailer at about 1600 RPMs up or down the hills without over reving the engine. Having had both gasser and diesel plus ordering and driving a F450 for our Sheriffs Department Search and Rescue Team I know we made the right choice. However, like I said they are both great trucks and it’s a matter of choice and money. With the fuel pump debacle on the Dodges. You have definitely made the right choice. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@SuperDuty250 A dead beast in the shop all the time...crap. Legacy Tundra rocks!
Cant go wrong with diesel, i have a toyota tundra towing about 6k lbs. Im constantly heavy on the throttle to maintain interstate speed, it mostly runs in 4th gear as 5th and 6th are basically usless, i dont think people realize how tiring that is after a few hours, where i tow there is no flat ground either, the truck just never feels happy with a load behind it
Thank you Nick!
What kind of mileage do you get without the trailer ?
Hi Frank, 10 to 11 miles a gallon towing our new fifth wheel. 20 not towing
@@OverTheHillAdventures not bad
Did cross country doing hotshot trucking in a 2020 3500 dually diesel, definitely an amazing truck. Did 100k miles in a year, and would definitely buy another one.
I did have some issues: make sure to keep your RPM’s low when using the exhaust break, mine started making whining sounds at the 60k mark.
The rear axle seal started leaking at the 40k mark. But that might be based on how much weight you’re carrying. I averaged 25k-30k lbs with a 40ft gooseneck.
Had some weird issues were cruise control and some other sensors would stop working. Took it to the dealership to get a hard reset, and was never a problem again.
Overall a great truck, never left stranded. Obviously there will be expenses when putting a truck through hard use.
Hello Alan. That is some great info. It is good to hear from folks that put the Duramax to the test. Thank you! Stan and Rhonda
Is your Chevy Silverado 2500HD Diesel an LT trim?
Yes sir!
@@OverTheHillAdventures ....Thanks. I was comparing the Silverado 6.6L V8 Gas to the Silverado 6.6L Duramax V8 Diesel. Was also looking at the F250 Turbo Diesel. I was leaning toward the Silverado Diesel but was not 100% certain. Then your video popped up in my feed. Your truck is identical to the one I'm currently looking at. Same color and trim. I think you helped tip the scale for me. Thanks for the video.
@@JRJones333 ours is a turbo diesel. It’s a best! Without the the price of an overpriced Ford.
For us, the F350 7.3 gas was the better choice than the 6.7 TD. The $10k diff plus higher maint cost and higher fuel cost couldn’t match the 7.3 #s. As always though personal preference is the final factor.
Hey Mark, always good to hear from you!! I've been asking a lot of folks the same question. What is your gas mileage while towing? You are very much correct it is always personal preference. I'm guessing this will be my last truck and hopefully the diesel engine will pass the test of time. Our gassers on the force never got more than 120,000 miles before they had to be replaced. I know all your fire trucks were diesel. Except for the price it was probably a tough decision for you. Anyway, that 7.3 is a monster motor they also have them is diesel and the most powerful truck to date. Thank you for joining in the conversation. Always appreciate your thoughts. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
Towing 9.5-10.5, daily driving 13.5-17.5. Like you, I don’t feel the 2500 behind me, may be diff if I had a 250 instead of the 350. County fleet had mileage & age caps on cars, heavy equip like public works or fire had no caps that I know of. I used to fill my county vehicle at Station 2 in DeVore, one of the few that had both diesel & unleaded tanks. I seldom used my gas card.
Injoy your vacation remember you can’t take it with you ,especially on your last journey 😊
M Nolan, So true! We actually just decided today to take another leap of faith and take that trip up the west coast 👏 Thank you for joining us and taking time to reach out! Means so much to us!
~Rhonda and Stan
I am not going to buy a new truck. The new trucks I've seen have been in the shop more than on the road. So, when I decide to get in the market for another truck, I'll buy a really good old one ('70s - 90's)
Hello Mike, thank you for your comment. Our new truck is great and dependable. We have been across the country and just finished another 5,800 mile trip. We will take off across the country once again in a few weeks. I love old trucks! They just don’t last forever. When you travel like we do and tow like we do you can’t afford to have things go wrong. Plus the old trucks are not very good when it comes to gas mileage. 6 miles to the gallon of gas might be a little hard to swallow on a 6,000 mile trip. Thank you for joining us. Stan and Rhonda
More payload in the gas HD also you absolutely have to add DEF in your fuel costs. You go through more DEF when you tow as well. Not worth the maintenance, fuel/ DEF, and initial $10-$12k cost.
In a lot ways you are correct. You are absolutely correct I did not include the DEF. I have been told those who have the gasser truck are getting 8 mpg while towing. The beautiful thing about the diesel is I get to set and forget it. Meaning the cruise control. I’m not sure you can do that with gasser when climbing hills without reving out the engine. I know I could not with my old gasser. Like I said before it is truly all about choices. I really wanted the gasser. I did not want the diesel because of the initial cost. However, the diesel will last a lot longer than the gasser. I hope 🤞. Check with me in about 10 years because this is the last truck I will ever own. Thank you for your comment. Stan
Yes, I went from gas to Diesel. And yes diesel is more expensive. Hehehe I do live in California. Saying that, I LOVE MY TRUCK. It is a Ford 2018 F350 King Ranch SRW LB. We got it new in 2018. And it has a 48 gallon tank. OUCH
Hey Tim, that truck you have is a beast!!! Does it have the monster 7.3? We did look at them could not find a new one and the price of those truck crazy expensive. What is your mpg while towing? I hope I get better milage as the truck gets broken in. Thank you for the comment as always. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
You failed to mention a gasser pulling a trailer gets about 7mpg, I know I own a 22 2500 gaser
Hello Wesley, I failed purposely because I knew someone who has a gasser would definitely speak up. I was planning to buy a gasser until I heard the gas mileage. Thank you so much for your comment. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures I get about 16 mpg being conservative on the pedal , not pulling a trailer.
I am finished with diesels after 15 years. Next truck will be 7.3 gas. Modern diesels are now too expensive and too unreliable due to the emissions systems. I can be a new crate 7.3 engine for the cost of replacing fuel/emissions components.
John, sorry to hear about your bad experience. We are still good with ours. Who knows🤷♂️. Thanks for watching. Stan and Rhonda
But you also have to factor in the fact that that diesel engine also cost you an extra almost $10,000 that’s a lot of regular gas
Absolutely correct Brandon. After traveling 10,000 miles across the country pulling our trailer this year. It was worth the cost and the care free towing. However, I was disappointed in the gas mileage of the new diesel. Our old 1998 Dodge diesel got far better fuel mileage. In retrospect, the gasser is way cheaper and now it’s just a matter of choice. I do believe the diesel will last longer. Thank you for your comment. Stan and Rhonda
My trailer is like your trailer so I chose gas mine pulls 14,500 and pay load 3575 so like your truck we don’t need that power and torque 6.6 is 401 hp and torque is 468 ft pounds of torque
Hello Brian, so our specifications on our truck is 17,500 with a payload of 3,305. 6.6 Diesel Turbo 445 HP and 901 ft pounds of torque on the rear end. Yes you are absolutely correct you don’t need all that for our 2500RL. Your truck is perfect for your trailer. What I like most about the diesel is the exhaust brakes and the 10 speed Allison. Those are the major differences and of coarse gas mileage. I believe you get around 8mpg towing. I actually wanted to buy the 6.6 gas. When I saw our diesel truck on the lot, was a time trucks were scarce. I certainly did not want to order one which is the norm now.
Two reasons why I justified the turbo diesel:
1) I hope this will be the last truck and hopefully get 400,000 miles on the engine. I drove the Chevy Tahoe as a patrol car. We were lucky if we got 120,000 miles on it. Yes it was a patrol but serviced every 3,000 miles.
2) If we decided to go with a 5th wheel which we came really close I have the truck.
It really just comes down to preferences. With diesel fuel going through the roof we often wondered if it was the right choice. Safe Travels!! Thank you Brian for watching our adventures. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
When you remove the blue def your mileage will increase by 6 mpg
That is good to know!
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Nothing you said was wrong but you said you didn’t want to debate 1/2 ton vs 3/4 ton. Literally every benefit you mentioned is the difference between a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton lol.
Anthony, I miss my 1500 it was a work horse too. However, you are absolutely right. Just did not want folks debating on the comments. Lol 😂 Thank you for watching our video. Stan and Rhonda
You know Stan that transmission is not a Alison it’s made by GM Alison indorse it and that’s why it’s on the hood badge and the duramax is made by Isuzu it’s a 60 40 deal with GM and Isuzu but glad you like the truck I got one as well but in gas 6.6 6 speed transmission
Thanks Brian! We will see how it holds up. For now it is a beast!!
@@OverTheHillAdventures oh yea it is my truck is a beast as well 401 hp and 464 feet pounds of torque it can pull the new 6.6 L8T is a beast in it self but your rig is the same weight as mine so in my opinion I think you can the same thing with gas and it takes regular gas it’s DPI and towing is 14,500 and 3575 on payload yes you don’t need to worry about what you put in and neither do I the Jake brake I nice but the transmission will down shift to help slow you down anyway good luck happy trail’s
Course, the Diesel engine costs 10k more up front.
Yes, and hopefully will last 400,000 miles. However, they cost a lot more today. So glad we bought when we did. Just finished a 4,600 mile trip up the California coast. Went up steep grades and down steep grades. Nothing like travel without a worry and stress. However, the cost of diesel was outrageous. That’s highway robbery! Thanks for watching. Stan and Rhonda
Can anyone confirm this math I did... I run my bike for 22 euros and it last 480km. So if I did the maths good with the 3200 dollars they spent, it's like spending 17$ for 60km whereas I spend 2,5 euros for 60km... wow.. that's for you guys but I can't afford it
Luis, we have decided in our retirement to travel in a travel trailer and see our beautiful country. There is a cost to everything we do and things we enjoy. For example some people go out and eat everyday. Can you imagine the cost of that? Some people travel to other countries in their retirement. Some buy second homes or vacation homes. So in perspective, we choose to buy fuel and travel. We enjoy meeting people from around the world doing the same thing. If this is something you would like to experience, you would have to spend a life time as we have preparing for a life of retirement you hope to achieve. Thank you so much for watching our video. Blessings, Stan and Rhonda
@@OverTheHillAdventures well explained my dears and I admire you to have achieved this, I just made the comparison because I couldn't do it economically but I do love the truck and I wish I had the same luck ❤ keep enjoying life guys 😉 😘
you didnt compare gas to diesel in the same truck
Grizzly, you are correct. We did the best we could do for what we had. Thank you for your comment. Stan
I sell comercial trucks in LOS ANGELES GMC AND ISUZU i have a GMC 2021 GAS MOTOR tows my trailer perfect and is 8000 GVW if you are not going to buy a fift wheel gas is a better choice it has all the power and safety tha you need. But if you are getting a fift wheel later you made the right choice Enjoy it I will retire in 6 mos and start our RV DREAM want to go to Baja Also go to lake Havasu park great camping and cheap 40 dlls per night
We just bought a fifth wheel. The truck is great. The exhaust brake makes all the difference in the world. Thank you for joining us. Stan and Rhonda 🙏🏼❤️